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Thanks again Dan.

BF

Thank you Dan, for such a quick responce.

It's also being reported that the family of Joran Van der Sloot is receiving multiple threats over the phone.

I feel so sorry for the family, must be a nightmare.

"should the family choose to leave the island."
I would expect THAT to be their first choice!

The best place for Satish is behind bars.

Thank you for the updates Dan.

they'll be outta there.

Thank you Dan. Great site.

It's also being reported that the family of Joran Van der Sloot is receiving multiple threats over the phone.

I feel so sorry for the family, must be a nightmare.

Posted by: loesje | Sep 1, 2005 8:02:59 PM

I agree, for all the families involved, such a nightmare all around.

I agree, for all the families involved, such a nightmare all around.

Posted by: tahoe111 | Sep 1, 2005 8:09:35 PM

You are right, both families.

The family of JDVS is also going through a lot. I personally have respect for them in the fact that the too want to know what happened to Natalie. But to be harrased, that is a bit much, something that no one should go through.

So they are keeping the little brother because they can?For another 8 days?What do you think this implies?

Hot dog!! Maybe the HTs will now get some of the answers that they need.

Dee, they do know what happened to Natalee. It's just that they have to protect their son from facing the music. I agree that the harassment is not necessary, but they don't have to look far for answers because Joran knows them and so does his Daddy.

i would be shocked if they did not keep Deepak - he is much more the player in this than Satish - I truly fear for Joran - I wish he could go to Holland - there are so many nuts out there - killing him will do no good - I hope his family keeps him safe!!

Jan,
Joran might stay safe if he can tell the whole truth about Natalee and help resolve this case. I think if Joran knew what was good for him, the first person he will talk to when he gets out is the Holloway-Twitty family!

This is what I was afraid off.
I think they want to get somebody to be incriminated (sp ?) for NH disapperance. So they decided to get Satish ... and pretty soon they will also arrest Deepak. That is what happens when you put pressure on them.

I think the white boy is getting away, get the brown boys and hang them, this way NH mother can go away with REVENGE (ofcourse she will never know what happened to her kid), but who cares

Unbelievable

i feel sick reading how the feelings for joran are being implied, he was " THERE WHILE SHE WAS BEING RAPED, MURDERED AND BURIED " as being reported from his own statements. why didn't he try to help her or at least tell one version of the truth??

Joran to be freed saturday, fantastic, FREE AT LAST, Party this saturday at ALL CARLOS AND CHARLIES, ALL YOU CAN DRINK, ALL TOURIST GIRLS ARE INVITED TO THIS PARTY, GUEST OF HONOR, THE PRINCE OF ARUBA, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT.

way NH mother can go away with REVENGE (ofcourse she will never know what happened to her kid), but who cares

Posted by: unbelievable | Sep 1, 2005 8:54:38 PM

If they think the Beth will leave, b/c Aruba throws her some patsies... they are very sorely mistaken.... this will piss her off more. She wants answers, she wants the truth, and she wants to know where her daughter is.

And so would any mother in her case. But what anyone thinks. We need to know what she or anyone else knows as far as evidence to figure this case out, or to put anyone at blame for anything.

This is what I was afraid off.
I think they want to get somebody to be incriminated (sp ?) for NH disapperance. So they decided to get Satish ... and pretty soon they will also arrest Deepak. That is what happens when you put pressure on them.

I think the white boy is getting away, get the brown boys and hang them, this way NH mother can go away with REVENGE (ofcourse she will never know what happened to her kid), but who cares

Unbelievable
Posted by: unbelievable | Sep 1, 2005 8:54:38 PM

Why, they arrested two "black" security guards pretty quickly. The Dutch are the whitest people, well almost. They will deny it but JVDS is out, will he apologize to the security guards? I doubt it. The Kalpoe's have the right skin color

In all truth, maybe JVDS does know what happened, but it was not done by his hands, they kept him the longest as the main suspect, where does that lead our theories? I just want to know what is going on, I want to know what the families do... I can't say much beyond that.

Joran has info that is worth a lot of money.

I am sure someone has a plan to extract the info

Only those involved know the truth and they don't seem to be talking. I am not interested in crucifying someone because of innuendo's and heresay.

I, like everyone else, want Natalee to be found. That is first and foremost. I would like to see the guilty parties be prosecuted and behind bars. Unfortunately, we don't have that truth at this point. Lots of thoughts and theories but no truth.

Joran will pay, I'm afraid, whether he is guilty or not. His family already is. I wish we knew the truth and Natalee's family could finally resume living.

great post frenchymom. There are no winners here.
JMHO.
Sam

Joran will pay, I'm afraid, whether he is guilty or not. His family already is. I wish we knew the truth and Natalee's family could finally resume living.

Posted by: frenchymom | Sep 1, 2005 9:53:08 PM

I agree. Sometimes media is good, but sometimes there is such thing as to much media. That is where all the heresay comes from.

Since we are hearing info regarding Joran and Satish, probably next thing will be reading about Deepak being held for the actual murder. If Natalee would of hit or done something to his car, perhaps, this could have thrown him into doing something terrible.

State Department: I'm not really for this but it seems to me if the U.S. State Dept. issued a warning it may compel more Arubans to come forward. Those defending Joran and bashing the U.S. need to accept reality also, the image of Aruba is sinking and in serious trouble. No it's not fair, just like the bungling of the Holloway case seems unfair. If we all focus on finding Natalee, pressure is needed. Maybe not media pressure but I'm asking an Aruban, if no American were to come to the island, what would that mean?

"Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty He is free at last" - Modified from a speech by the great MLK Jr.

I wish the fanmily woudl have been able to move off to the netherlands but alas, they cant at the moment.

I hope BHT doesnt think she now has the authority to take the law into her own hands.

She kinda indicated her distrust with the system earlier, i guess she will feel more incensed now.

But thanks tothe Almighty that they young man is now mostly free to "move on with his life"

P in S.E.Asia

Remember "The Lord moves in mysterious ways." This could signal the beginning of the end for Joran. Sooner or later, if guilty, he will slip up & the truth will the known.

P in S.E.Asia

Remember "The Lord moves in mysterious ways." This could signal the beginning of the end for Joran. Sooner or later, if guilty, he will slip up & the truth will the known.

Posted by: bamaguy11 | Sep 1, 2005 10:56:36 PM

Bamaguy11......
We can all hope and pray.
Everything happens for a reason, right? I'm hoping......

All along, I believed the Prosecutors had built a case, and with the rearrest of the Kalpoes and Freddy, it seemed certain things were moving along. Now, it turns out that the Prosecution has 300 pages of NOTHING very useful. The Twittys claimed they had knowledge of so much more, but, they haven't produced any of it. I'm afraid this case is over for many of us. It's not out of lack of caring, but, it's been three months of constant coverage, with millions of dollars spent. It seems obscene in the light of so many suffering Americans tonight, to focus on one white affluent family's loss any longer. They've had three solid months to express their grief and they've done an exhaustive job to promote awareness of Natalee Holloway.

Now, too many resources are needed for the survivors of the hurricane.
It doesn't make Natalee's loss any less tragic, but, how much can the media, or private donations be used for just one family, when so many hundreds of thousands are in crisis and need the country's attention, as well as our donations?

It's like when Chandra Levy was missing, it was a HUGE deal in the media, until 911 happened, and then it dropped off the radar, replaced by thousands of people who were killed or missing. This current tragedy is rapidly eclipsing September 11th. It would be inappropriate for the media to focus on this one affluent white family, when so many have more dire needs and have suffered extreme losses in their own lives. The Twittys are fortunate to have a supportive community and a home to go home to in Alabama. While they will mourn for a long time, the media can't continue to fixate on this one case, and one that has no answers.

There is nothing against Joran. Who knows? Maybe he is innocent?

COMMENT:
aruba has been living a nightmare.
the girls of and visiting aruba are and will be living a nightmare.
the van der sloot family is living a nightmare.
natalee ann holloway lived a nightmare.
natalee's family is and always will live a nightmare.

and the name of that nightmare is joran.

Posted by: dennis | Sep 1, 2005 11:15:41 PM

RESPONSE:

SO RIGHT YOU ARE DENNIS...I believe it's not over with yet and justice will be served to Urine and the Cow Pie brothers and Urine's Daddy'O small Paul..and I am one of MANY American's that will never go to corrupt Aruba for fun in the sun!!

It would be inappropriate for the media to focus on this one affluent white family, when so many have more dire needs and have suffered extreme losses in their own lives.
Posted by: Ashleigh | Sep 1, 2005 11:25:16 PM

Affluent, white? Why are those words in there? Would it make a difference if they were poor and black?
Are you speaking of the van der sloots?
Again, the media doesn't drive the story, we do? Don't keep blaming the media because they have an audience. It's like saying why does Starbucks keep selling coffee?

TO ALL AMERICANS:

It's time to begin the punishment in the States against the Arubans and the Dutch. If you work with them, sabotage their work and have them fired. If you work in the government, find a way to make life tougher for Arubans.

Tell all your friends to boycott Aruba.

DO NOT EVER HELP AN ARUBAN OR A DUTCH NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF HELP THEY NEED.

Frank,
I think you framed one sentence I wrote, which puts it out of context.
The media has devoted three solid months to one family. This family has received astounding support, donations, volunteer organizations and even support from many influential people in our own government. Natalee Holloway is important, as her family's loss is just as serious as any other family.

What I was pointing out was that while the Twittys and Holloways have had a horrible loss, they were fortunate to have had so much support. I believe it's time for Americans to use that same generosity and goodwill to help those who are now in need of attention, whether they are black or white.

THAT'S FINE - Let's help the victims of Katrina as much as we can, but let's also get revenge against Aruba as well as we can.

Ashleigh,

You said white and affluent and I reread what you said. Why were those words necessary. You're sounding like Joran here. You could have left out the white and affluent and still made your point. But you didn't leave it out. It says alot. Your argument would have been better, and your second story was better. Given time to review. Sounds like Joran's second story that he left her unharmed on the beach. Think about it.

THAT'S FINE - Let's help the victims of Katrina as much as we can, but let's also get revenge against Aruba as well as we can.

Posted by: Another Observer | Sep 1, 2005 11:47:25 PM

Poor thing.
You've lost your mind.

Ashleigh,

Again, we are driving this story. I feel pain whenever harm comes to a women regardless of what she looks like. But these "pimps" and amateur porn producers don't seem to seduce or drug girls that are unattractive. These predators are the ones doing harm and that's what makes the story, not the media.

I still think Satish is the least guilty of the set.
I do hope that with this decision the judge made an excellent, strategic move.

Frank,
I used the words "white" and "affluent" because that's what this family is. It's relative to the sensitivity that millions of blacks have towards the media's obsession with affluent white girls who are thin, pretty and have attractive families. This is a time of crisis in America, but, you've probably noticed. It's hard for the media to spend as much time on this one white affluent family's loss, which has been featured for three solid months, when so many people of color have missing family members and feel that because they are black they don't matter to America. I'm sorry if that's not politically correct, but, there is still polarization in our country, and many blacks feel that the media's obsession with white damsels in distress is a subtle form of racism, since more minority children, (proportionate to population) go missing than beautiful thin, affluent girls.

I'm not trying to push your buttons, but, you seem to take issue with this, and it's a reality that I didn't create. I think that Natalee's case was important enough for us to care, and I still care. However, there are hundreds of thousands of human beings who have lost all they have in this world, including loved ones, pets, homes, and possessions.

There's room in our hearts to still care about Natalee, but, the media needs to concentrate on these people now. They need all the help they can get.

THAT'S FINE - Let's help the victims of Katrina as much as we can, but let's also get revenge against Aruba as well as we can.

Posted by: Another Observer | Sep 1, 2005 11:47:25 PM

Poor thing.
You've lost your mind.


Posted by: Roy | Sep 1, 2005 11:52:34 PM

ROy - Buddy, what do you expect with such inexplicable turn of events. I hope the same thing happens to your daughter some day.

Ashleigh,

I don't disagree with you. But these 3 targeted Natalee. Are you concerned how easily the 2 black security guards were arrested? Or now the affluent white family the VDS' have their son out and the poor Kalpoe's don't?
I think your originally comment showed some anger and racism itself and all I was trying to say was that your point would have been more powerful without it. I thin there is racism in this case also. Have you been to the Netherlands? Not much flavor there if you know what I mean.
I think my sore spot is blaming the media. If there was no interest they wouldn't be there.

TO ALL AMERICANS:

It's time to begin the punishment in the States against the Arubans and the Dutch. If you work with them, sabotage their work and have them fired. If you work in the government, find a way to make life tougher for Arubans.

Tell all your friends to boycott Aruba.

DO NOT EVER HELP AN ARUBAN OR A DUTCH NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF HELP THEY NEED.


Posted by: Another Observer | Sep 1, 2005 11:37:35 PM

You really should get a life. Im laughing my ass of because of people like you. Go ahead and ignore suffering Dutch and Arubians along the way, Im sure it will make you a better person. But then again, you're a lost case anyway. Loser.

Posted by: Another Observer | Sep 1, 2005 11:37:35 PM

You really should get a life. Im laughing my ass of because of people like you. Go ahead and ignore suffering Dutch and Arubians along the way, Im sure it will make you a better person. But then again, you're a lost case anyway. Loser.

Posted by: dutchgal | Sep 2, 2005 12:12:05 AM

Your justice system is a loser honey.

Posted by: dutchgal | Sep 2, 2005 12:12:05 AM

Your justice system is a loser honey.

Posted by: Another Observer | Sep 2, 2005 12:21:09 AM

Yeah, i must admit, that one really hit me hard. I feel so miserable all of a sudden, can I join your club now?

My mother says the Bible states:

"Be ye sure, your sins will find ye out"

and

A bird never flew so high its TALE didn't follow it.


I expect Deepak to be released.

I'm starting to believe more and more that Joran is innocent. How can a 17-year old boy fool everybody, including your precious FBI, for months in a row? Every kid would have cracked under the pressure. No matter what their father instructed them to do or say. The release, only confirms my feelings. The arrest of the Kalpoe brothers is just a desperate attempt, to force something.
The only thing Joran and/or the Kalpoe brothers can be accused of is negligence for leaving a drunk girl alone at the beach.

Joran will be a free man on saturday.

Maybe we do need to boycott Aruba?

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