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heej vriend . dat je nu vrij bent betekent niet dat een vrij persoon bent!

en je arrogantie helpt dus ook niet!

ook in NL weet iedereen van je arubaanse geschiedenis, ik ben zowiezo niet pro amerikaanse media maar ik ben zeker dat je onze rechts staat geen goed hebt gedaan samen met je pa, vraagje waarom zoveel getuigensverklaringen als je nix gedaan hebt, speel nu aub niet de vermooerde onschuld!!!!

xander, what did you say?

Here is the link to get to his site !!! ENJOY !!
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005/09/things-are-definitaly-looking-up-joran.html

this link works...i was just there !

Joran: Lie, deny, deflect

xander, tegen wie praat je?

Jij verveelt je echt overduidelijk he. Ga eens iets nuttigs doen.

Joran,
Your "life motto" is the name of a Tupac Shakur song? Please! Stop with the "gangsta" imagery!
GROW UP, ALREADY!!

“When her parents showed up at my door with her picture, I didn’t even know who Natalee Holloway was,” he said. “I didn’t even know her name.”

Posted by: frank | Sep 28, 2005 3:38:11 PM

Your "life motto" is the name of a Tupac Shakur song? Please! Stop with the "gangsta" imagery!


Posted by: barrell | Sep 28, 2005 6:22:46 PM

Tupac Shakur...LOL, I just wish this kid would find himself stranded someday in the south bronx.... what a flippin poser.

“When her parents showed up at my door with her picture, I didn’t even know who Natalee Holloway was,” he said. “I didn’t even know her name.”

Posted by: frank | Sep 28, 2005 3:38:11 PM

Frank~

Because he already had removed her from the memory banks. If you don't remember what happend, did it really happend. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it....did it really fall?

USMC MOM:
Your last comment: I haven't laughed that hard in weeks! South Bronx! What a poser! SO TRUE!!!!
THanks! I needed that! Sincerely!

xander, what did you say?

Posted by: bhm mom too | Sep 28, 2005 5:36:01 PM

Don't know if Xander is still there but here is a translation of what he wrote:
"Hi friend, the fact that you are out doesn't really mean you are a free person.
Also in Holland everybody knows about your Aruban history.
I am surely not a fan of the American Media but I am sure that you together with your dad didn't do the Dutch justice system and country much good.
Question why so many different statements if you are not guilty?
Don't play mister Inocent on me now.
(free translation).

Shameless Jerk! Joran thinks because he is away from Aruba now everyone has forgotten what he has done, his father is a useless jerk also! Good only to give advice how to cover up a crime!

Shameless Jerk! Joran thinks because he is away from Aruba now everyone has forgotten what he has done, his father is a useless jerk also! Good only to give advice how to cover up a crime!


Posted by: oneyka | Sep 28, 2005 7:11:27 PM


Post a commentAnd what has he done that YOU know for sure?? And you know his father so well, how?

Well I wish him well, I never did think he was guilty.

Hoi Joran, hou je maar een beetje gedeisd jongen. Lijkt me wel zo verstandig. De mazzel.

Does anyone know for sure if the myspace site is 'real'?? Anyone can set up a site called Joran's space.

Here's an old one
http://www.zorpia.com/loverboy362
Maybe he forgot about it?


Another one
http://den-e-zone.com/?i=409

See if any Dutch boys can translate this.

It tells what a "loverboy" is -- a PIMP
http://www.lover-boy.nl/praaterover/index.htm

does anyone have his website that is shown on his blog?

See if any Dutch boys can translate this.

It tells what a "loverboy" is -- a PIMP
http://www.lover-boy.nl/praaterover/index.htm

Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | Sep 28, 2005 8:09:44 PM

What do you want to know?

Boy is this guy disillusioned! Earth to Joran, earth to Joran.
He's definitely not wrapped up too tight.

Tupac Shakur...LOL, I just wish this kid would find himself stranded someday in the south bronx.... what a flippin poser.

Posted by: usmcmom | Sep 28, 2005 6:27:58 PM


hahahahha...I hear that. hahahah especially if he flipped a West Coast sign (which he probably had no idea what it means yet feels the impulse to do so in every photo with his "homies" hahahah. POSER for sure.

does anyone have the direct link to his blog??? none of those links bring u directly to his blog

Marie I think you have to be accepted to his buddy list before you can view it. It looks like he blocked it.

well, I wish him a horrible life up until he finally confesses to attacking Nat ....

old saying.....what goes around, comes around.....

he'll get his , one way or another....

and shame on anyone for defending this little arrogant derelict........its about right from wrong, not if there is evidence or not....


the evidence is long gone.......


again....what goes around, comes around....

Posted by: lee | Sep 29, 2005 1:20:14 AM
I wish him well. I think he is innocent.

Loesje
It tells what a "loverboy" is -- a PIMP
http://www.lover-boy.nl/praaterover/index.htm
What do you want to know?

Posted by: Loesje | Sep 28, 2005 8:25:17 PM

-----------------------
Can you smooth this up where the words are not translated correctly?

I used this translator: http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html
........................

You are amorous, go with your friend to bed. What makes it then from that you a time the bed shares with its friends, if he asks for this reason. Moreover he has nice stuff. Therefore what it.

It was but this way innocent. Here loverboy to the work are. Probably a fast vent, expensive car, many gifts. This way palmt he you. And slowly touch you increasingly further verstrikt in its net. At the end of the tale you sit the window, as a hoer.

Loverboys go in a cunning and brutal manner work. Read there here more.

If you love friend really you, then he you do not force with other men to bed go.

It can be very difficult break the contact. Because you are amorous, uncertain, your vriendje want help or on nobody can fall. Or because he blackmails you, threatens or maltreats. Toch it is the only correct choice, how with difficulty and narrowly that also can seem.

Talk? But with who?
If this you happen, have you frequently the feeling which you can nowhere to. You are ashamed yourself you talk and think perhaps that your own debt is. Toch it is important talk. Talk with someone who you trusts: you best friend or girlfriend, your parents or your aunt, someone at you on school.
You can talk also with your general practitioner. These have a beroepsgeheim and can you tale to nobody tell.

Are loverboys illegal?
Yes. According to Article 250a of the statute book of criminal law of this talk of trafficking in human beings, namely is inciting minors to prostitution. The maximum sentence amounts to ten years if there is talk of minors or coercion. task sentence is not uncommon.

Recent developments and figures
The number of victims of loverboys strongly increases the last years. The Netherlands counts such dertigduizend prostitutes, of he who to estimate 1500 under 21 little girls. At the wide quarter talk of coercion is. In a city such as zwolle is small twenty loverboys active. They have made victim to estimate forty little girls.

Further information?


An overview of brochures, Article, books and films concerning loverboys.

-------------------------------

http://www.lover-boy.nl/trapernietin/index.htm


Tactic of loverboys
The loverboy go in search of little girls. He parks expensive cars or scooter for middle schools be, a chat in coffee hops makes, kroeg or discoteek. Or he waits for little girls at relief houses.
He spoils her with gifts and kind words, how the little girl becomes gradually amorous.
The loverboy go with the little girl to bed.
To make the little girl dependent, the loverboy try float a wig between the little girl and its
surroundings.
By inciting the little girl for example to sex with its friends he
reduces the threshold to prostitution.
The little girl is entirely dependent, then its attitude changes. Under the mom of money lack or a being open debt, he places under pressure the little girl to go against payment with
another one to bed. An argument thereby is that it is now the time pay back the gifts
Mostly the little girl is tevens incited to the use of soft drugs or
alcohol.
As a little girl once in the prostitution works, she is watched sharply, and if necessary threatened and manipulated.
..............................

Love is..
.. anyway do not incite your girlfriend to prostitution

Loverboys play dirty game. They win your heart firstly, seduce you with attention and expensive gifts. You have been once charmed, then they force you to prostitution.

In the strip the friend of Natasja forces her with another boy to bed go. This calls we forced sexual contact, and that is illegal.

Verkering for the money
Loverboys zoekt verkering to deserve money. Such a boy tries persuade you have sex with others, against payment. In the beginning loverboy complete lief are. He does everything make you to the sense. This way palmt he you slowly.

He makes you dependent
With gifts for example, which you must pay back later ' in kind '. Or by deflowering itself. For foreign little girls from gelovige families the way has been then already concluded frequently. The honour of the family stands on the game.

The envelope
Be you once dependent, then its attitude changes. Under the mom of money lack or a being open debt, he you place under pressure. Natasja from the stripverhaal admitted and went with Danny to bed. Fortunately she dared its tell tale to a girlfriend.

Read a description of how loverboy work goes.

Orphan on your hoede!
Arm you against these charming lords with beautiful chats and expensive gifts. They frequently recruit on school squares or in discotheques. Even if the moment he zoekt contact, an alarm bell must tinkle will at you.

Up to that point as Natasja cannot let come you better it. You never let force do to something, where you are not to. It does not make from how old you are or how long have your verkering. You decide.

Its gone now!

Joran's webpage is not important.

I find it kind of amusing that people who left bad messages on his blog did so annonymously. The especially nasty ones were the most annonymous.

Dr. Phil, Beth nor Jug can influence me and my family and friends to boycott Aruba. We made that decision on our own. This case has defined questions we are now investigating before we travel anywhere.

A big concern we have with Aruba is that potential infectious bio-hazzard waste was thrown in a landfill without proper disposal.

There are Joran Van Der Sloots everywhere in this world but we would expect the Authorities and LE to protect it's visiting tourist if necessary and we just do not see it in Aruba.

I think this is far from over yet. I still would like to know one thing: how did Joran loose his one shoe that night and why did he loose it?? Maybe (and that is why he is not saying the truth) he was with Natalee and some other group of lowlives that are more powerfull then Joran, saw them together, alone on a dark beach and they thought;: wel mm he can't defend himself against all of us, let's take the girl for some 'fun'. Mayvbe he tried to fight them off at first, that's why he lost the shoe but they overpowerd him and during a struggle when he left the shoe, he got free and ran away , that's why he maybe took that long difficult path home instead of the other. So maybe he is afraid of these guys and for what they would do if he talked because they know that he saw them and can identify them as only one so he is the one who is in the most danger if he opens his mouth. So maybe this happened I don't know anymore. So much is possible if you begin to think away from Joran. I hope the truth will soon come out and justice for Natalee can be served. I allso hope we could get more information on the things Beth knows.

@Raspy. I can understand your anger, however this is not the way. Just chill ok, bro. Just remember the 3 wise Aruban sayings: "Dios ta grandi" - " tur loke bo ta deseami igualmente"-"no desea malo pa niun hende, pasobra malo lo bin bek pa bo" most of these people know nothing about us, they believe anything they see on tv, or any "facts" they can google up about Aruba. Nobody knows what really happened, just rumors and speculations. I'm not a Joran supporter, I'm just here to defend my island that gave many people from around the world opportunities to progress and lead a more free life, despite all its problems with corruption.

Just a little Aruban curiosity: what happened with the case of the male DNA found on NH's toothbrush?

Say what you say do what you do Aruba is and will always be Paradise especially for does fron the STATES,stupid ignorant Americans while you all can speak one or "Perhaps" two lenguages
We Arubians can speak four or more lenguages and all that at an age of 14 15 some younger!!
So shut the fuck up dommies you can stick those nasty dollars in u'r ass,Don't fuck with my Island.If you wanna fuck with Joran that's his buisness,He's not Arubian anyway he just one of those spoiled stupid punk that came out of holland!!! So Please don't fuck with ARUBA

Posted by: Raspy | Sep 29, 2005 3:27:13 AM

geeze, you all sound so nice, it's a wonder more people aren't in awe at your supreme superiority

De taal van arubasux kan gerust achterwege blijven ...

5:39 PM
Anonymous said...

Hey Joran....remember Thomas Twitty who was playing poker with you at the casino? Yeah him and Hunter.....the step cousins of Natalee. Beth tried to keep a secret they were with Natalee in ARuba. Dave found out only now and is shocked to find that out. Thomas & Hunter fucked off from ARuba as fast as they could as soon as Uncle Jug's private plane got there when "something bad happened". Yeah tell the cops all you know about Thomas & Hunter b/c the FBI is investigating them.....word has it they were hiding in the fishermans's hut after you left and gang raped Natalee. That's why she wanted you to stay with her....she knew they were there and didnt' want them raping her AGAIN. That's why she kept changing hotel rooms in the holiday inn...to run from them but they kept finding her and having more brutal sex with her.
5:43 PM
Anonymous said...

Don't worry the football team takes the twitty twins in the locker room and they all gang rape them after practise....taking turns from behind, and rumour has it on campus they put a gun to Hunter's head and made him have sex with Thomas. But Thomas didn't need a gun to his head, he's a perv just like Uncle Jug and he fucked Hunter for free. and yes Thomas Twitty does swallow......the whole football team was grossed out at that.

LOL that was on http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005/09/things-are-definitaly-looking-up-joran.html. hahaha

We Arubians can speak four or more lenguages and all that at an age of 14 15 some younger!!
So shut the fuck up dommies you can stick those nasty dollars in u'r ass,Don't fuck with my Island.If you wanna fuck with Joran that's his buisness,He's not Arubian anyway he just one of those spoiled stupid punk that came out of holland!!! So Please don't fuck with ARUBA

Posted by: Raspy | Sep 29, 2005 3:27:13 AM

Why you speak 4 languages is due to neccesity, not because you are smarter than anybody else. It's a tremendous advantage to be able to speak several languages, I'll give you that. I know, I speak 3. But it's what you say and not in what language you say it that determines your intelligence. Being able to announce your ignorance in 4 languages is not something to be proud of. I do agree with you that is not the fault of the Aruban people and they should not be paying for the Van der Sloot's shenannigans. Instead, tell us what are the arubans like you doing about it. The Holloways need your help. There is a young girl missing here. Concentrate on that.

Joran has not been convicted of any crime. Just because Beth Twitty utters things doesn't make them true. She's not always objective or totally honest. I feel sorry for her, but, she never even speaks about Natalee. Her obsession is Joran. Maybe something else happened to Natalee and all she cares about is harming Joran. I feel that her going to Holland is a form of stalking and harrassment. If there was any proof of a crime, Joran would still be in a prison cell. Just because the media has made Beth a star doesn't mean she isn't wrong, dead wrong. The reason she doesn't speak about Natalee, except to say she's a virgin, is probably because she doesn't even know that poor girl. I only hope Natalee is alive somewhere, after running away from that crazy lady.

Let Joran keep talking. The latest television interview he said "none of us had sex with Natalee", that after he told his mother in the beginning "we all had sex with Natalee". Wonder what mama is thinking now? The more he talks to the press, the more his lies are documented and can be used as evidence if needed. He is now living like a caged bird, does not matter if he thinks things are looking up, he knows he is being watched. But that will not stop him, he seems to have this movie star attitude, that he is important, sing Joran..........sing. One of the gentlemen from Philadelphia that put up 250,000 towards the reward, said it best, "Joran thinks things are looking brighter, what he needs to know is that light at the end of the tunnel, is the freight train coming his way."

OK, I think its time someone sat Urine in a chair and beat a confession out of him. The time has come to take the gloves off for this piece of garbage. You know how to tell when Urine is lying? When his lips are moving!

Does anyone know if it's true that Natalee's cousins were in Aruba too?

Hey Redhead,
Yes it was true,the Twitty twins Hunter and Thomas were in Aruba on the same trip and even more interesting is the fact that they left the island without their cousin.In my view they are suspects that at the very least need to be eliminated.

Hey Redhead,
Yes it was true,the Twitty twins Hunter and Thomas were in Aruba on the same trip and even more interesting is the fact that they left the island without their cousin.In my view they are suspects that at the very least need to be eliminated.

Posted by: bizman | Sep 29, 2005 1:24:48 PM

It is strange that they would leave the island with out their cousin but I don't think that they are suspects. Just does not make sense. Natalee was last seen with Joran the psychopath liar and the 2k scumbags. They are the true suspects. Just look at at Joran in the interview, no emotions, placing the blame on the victim...he's nuts!

It just does not seem logical as to why Joran or either one of the Kalpoe brothers would want to harm or kill Natalee! What would be the logiacl reason for them to want to harm or kill her?
Have consensual sex with her yes..but murder ..I highly doubt it! There would really be no logical reason or need to harm or killed her, cause after Joran and Natalee had consensual sex together, all he would need to do is drop her off back at the hotel and then she would leave Aruba for the USA in a few hours!

I can certainly tell you from a medical stand point and knowing how date rape drugs effects the human body, Natalee was not slipped a date rape drug! A date rape drug renders the female target victim unconscious very quickly (usually within 5 to 10 minutes)and she stays totally unconscious for 6 to 8 hours and she usually has very little if any knowledge that she has been sexually assulted!

Beth Twitty obviously does not have any ideal at all how date rape drugs effects the human body,yet she still try to blow smoke up everyones butt but saying Natalee was slipped a date rape drug! If Natalee was slipped a date rape drug at Carlos and Charlie's,she would have passed out on the sidewalk in front of her friends and her other classmates and she would not have been able to talk to her friends or even been walking without some type of support from her friends or whoever else!

I have stated for a long time that the Aruba LE and the FBI need to be checking every male who is from Alabama who was in Aruba the same time frame as Natalee was!

My gut instint tells me that the Twitty twins and some of their friends and/or other MB males are involved in what happened to Natalee! The Aruba LE needs to obtain an arm load of international court orders and get DNA samples from every male from Alabama who was on the Aruba trip during the same time frame that Natalee was there!

Does anyone know if the Twitty Twins rode the same planes out with the other students when they left Aruba or did they fly out later on the private company jet?

I suspect that the Twitty Twins are the main or primary and possibly are the sole culprits in Natalee disappearance! If the Twins and some of their friends had been raping or forcing Natalee to have sex with them even before they left Alabama and especially forcing her to submit to their sexual demands ont the Aruba trip , Natalee may have threatened to expose them or file charges on them and to shut her up and to protect their own butts and their friends butts they went ahead and gang raped her for the last time and then killed her and disposed of her body in an Area no one has looked at yet!

You can bet your butt that the Twitty Twins and their friends was not going to let Natalee expose what they had been doing to her and ruin their college careers and their life and maybe put their butts in jail for a number of years!
Also take into consideration that if Natalee exposed them, the entire Twitty family would also disgrace them and kick their butts out of the family!

The Twitty Twins and their friends are the one's who had the most to lose if Natalee exposed them and their forced sex on Her!

I have also considered that Natalee may have had one or both of the Twitty Twins for a secret boyfriend and lover for several years! Natalee and the Twitty Twins are Step-cousins so it would not be biologiacl incest per say, but it would not look right either!

I would also take a damn good hard look to see if there was an incest relationship between Jug and Natalee, because a incest relationship between a father and a step-daughter are fairly common, but the same is also true between a son and a step-mom too!

I am fairly certain something along these lines may have occured or Maybe Natalee was a secret bi-sexual and her secret female lover got jealous cause she went with Joran and she killed her after Natalee returned to the hotel or maybe some of Natalee's friends also had an active interest inJoran and wanted to be with Joran that last night they were in Aruba and got pissed off at Natalee cause she ask Joran to be with her first and then one or more of Natalee's females friends killed her after she returned to the hotel!

Either that or Natalee did get back to the hotel and died of acute alcohol poisoning or a drug overdose or a alcohol/drug reaction in one of the other rooms that her classmates were having the other private parties in!

Just what exactly is all of Natalee's real friends and her other classmates hiding and what are they covering-up and who are they protecting and why are they protecting the guilty parties! They know and they need to come forward and tell what happened and stop being and acting like stupid morons and hoping that someone will figure out what happened to Natalee in Aruba!

Beth Twitty needs to wake up and get her head out of her butt; most of the real evidence in this case points back to the MB kids who were on the Aruba trip!

It just does not seem logical as to why Joran or either one of the Kalpoe brothers would want to harm or kill Natalee! What would be the logiacl reason for them to want to harm or kill her?
Have consensual sex with her yes..but murder ..I highly doubt it! There would really be no logical reason or need to harm or killed her, cause after Joran and Natalee had consensual sex together, all he would need to do is drop her off back at the hotel and then she would leave Aruba for the USA in a few hours!

I can certainly tell you from a medical stand point and knowing how date rape drugs effects the human body, Natalee was not slipped a date rape drug! A date rape drug renders the female target victim unconscious very quickly (usually within 5 to 10 minutes)and she stays totally unconscious for 6 to 8 hours and she usually has very little if any knowledge that she has been sexually assulted!

Beth Twitty obviously does not have any ideal at all how date rape drugs effects the human body,yet she still try to blow smoke up everyones butt but saying Natalee was slipped a date rape drug! If Natalee was slipped a date rape drug at Carlos and Charlie's,she would have passed out on the sidewalk in front of her friends and her other classmates and she would not have been able to talk to her friends or even been walking without some type of support from her friends or whoever else!

I have stated for a long time that the Aruba LE and the FBI need to be checking every male who is from Alabama who was in Aruba the same time frame as Natalee was!

My gut instint tells me that the Twitty twins and some of their friends and/or other MB males are involved in what happened to Natalee! The Aruba LE needs to obtain an arm load of international court orders and get DNA samples from every male from Alabama who was on the Aruba trip during the same time frame that Natalee was there!

Does anyone know if the Twitty Twins rode the same planes out with the other students when they left Aruba or did they fly out later on the private company jet?

I suspect that the Twitty Twins are the main or primary and possibly are the sole culprits in Natalee disappearance! If the Twins and some of their friends had been raping or forcing Natalee to have sex with them even before they left Alabama and especially forcing her to submit to their sexual demands ont the Aruba trip , Natalee may have threatened to expose them or file charges on them and to shut her up and to protect their own butts and their friends butts they went ahead and gang raped her for the last time and then killed her and disposed of her body in an Area no one has looked at yet!

You can bet your butt that the Twitty Twins and their friends was not going to let Natalee expose what they had been doing to her and ruin their college careers and their life and maybe put their butts in jail for a number of years!
Also take into consideration that if Natalee exposed them, the entire Twitty family would also disgrace them and kick their butts out of the family!

The Twitty Twins and their friends are the one's who had the most to lose if Natalee exposed them and their forced sex on Her!

I have also considered that Natalee may have had one or both of the Twitty Twins for a secret boyfriend and lover for several years! Natalee and the Twitty Twins are Step-cousins so it would not be biologiacl incest per say, but it would not look right either!

I would also take a damn good hard look to see if there was an incest relationship between Jug and Natalee, because a incest relationship between a father and a step-daughter are fairly common, but the same is also true between a son and a step-mom too!

I am fairly certain something along these lines may have occured or Maybe Natalee was a secret bi-sexual and her secret female lover got jealous cause she went with Joran and she killed her after Natalee returned to the hotel or maybe some of Natalee's friends also had an active interest inJoran and wanted to be with Joran that last night they were in Aruba and got pissed off at Natalee cause she ask Joran to be with her first and then one or more of Natalee's females friends killed her after she returned to the hotel!

Either that or Natalee did get back to the hotel and died of acute alcohol poisoning or a drug overdose or a alcohol/drug reaction in one of the other rooms that her classmates were having the other private parties in!

Just what exactly is all of Natalee's real friends and her other classmates hiding and what are they covering-up and who are they protecting and why are they protecting the guilty parties! They know and they need to come forward and tell what happened and stop being and acting like stupid morons and hoping that someone will figure out what happened to Natalee in Aruba!

Beth Twitty needs to wake up and get her head out of her butt; most of the real evidence in this case points back to the MB kids who were on the Aruba trip!

thx texasnurse you are right!!!

Joran's guilty, I can tell just by looking at him. And he contradicted himself in at least 14 different unsigned confessions developed by the police and leaked by a newspaper owner who has an axe to grind with his father....er, um...wait......well anyway, his father sweats too much. Way too much. That's proof enough for me. Hang 'em high.....yeeeehaaaaw!!!!!!

Hey Texasnurse your post makes alot of sense, and I agree with most of what you are saying. But who are the parent's of these Twitty
Twins? And also I think they should point some fingers back at the MB teens because I believe they know alot more than what they have said. They were there and they should be questioned just like Joran and the Kalpoes.

Wow, the comments on here are as bad as the ones on Jorans blog.
I do think some of you need to get some of your facts straight.
1.Beth has stated on one of the tv programs the toothbrush was not Natalees.She did not say who the toothbrush belonged to.

2.The Twitty twins were already on the plane when it was discovered that Natalee was not with them.Only one chaperone stayed behind.

3. There was no private plane on Aruba for them to go back seperatley from the group they came with.
4. Think about what you are saying here folks. This is about a missing girl and the heartache of her parents and step parents.JMO
Sam

Beth has stated on one of the tv programs the toothbrush was not Natalees.She did not say who the toothbrush belonged to.

She said it was the roommates. Go figure.

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