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I think President Bush has his plate full, ever since 9/11, if he wants to drink let him drink, he is the President but also a man and a human being. I would never have voted for him as I am Democrat, but President Bush is facing crisis, after crisis and unbearable criticism.
Let him and Mrs. Bush sort out his personal problems, and just let him do his job.

The National Enquirer?! LOL! What a hoot! A family source called the National Enquirer to report this story?! Hahahahaha........

I doubt very serioulsy that to be true about President Bush. Consider the source !

About Joran, his dad and the gang.. I could care less what happens to them when, where, or how or who.

They are all pure scum.
I sure as hell would not miss any of them.

!: You are a warped individual.

OKAY, I CONFESS!

I was able to collect $1.33, and told O.J. the "real killers" were near a gold course in Holland. Is it all my fault?

Dan- You are so particular about what you post on here, so am surprised that you would post this crap from the National Scumbag rag! Please, please, tell me you did it as a joke????? It's an awfully low blow, even from the N.E.-this man,(yes he is a man as well as our president) is under unbearable stress right now-wonder if those who p*ss and moan about his record could do any better running the country-I seriously doubt it!!!!!!

golf course, not gold course. Never sneeze while editing and accidentally submit a comment. ;-)

Wow, great source, Dan. Sort of vague and general, however. Makes me wonder why they held such a big press conference and were so very public about Joran being released from jail and also his leaving for school. Instead of giving speeches, you'd think they would be in hiding.

Maybe it's just Anita wanting extra protection for her baby while he is abroad. After all, she won't be there to prevent bad things from happening.

Gotta think this garbage comes from Neil Bush or his wife.

I don't believe it it true. It's just another rumor to make him look bad.

so that explains the far off look in his eye...

Too funny! I can't believe the NE prints such stuff. More, I'm amazed people buy it. Ya know, in the rare event the NE was to publish something truthful, nobody would believe it because of all the s**t the tabloid is know for. Such entertainment, eh?

Wasting Joran and company is both possible and probable. There is a lot of sympathy and anger regarding Natalees loss and some folks with the means will get the job done and feel very justified in doing it. One guy told me "my time, my way" when we were discussing something of a similar nature. Whether Joran and the Cowpods are guilty or not, I and very surprised certain factions in Aruba have allowed this condition to get this far without taking care of business internally because of all the attention that has been cast on the casinos, drug trade and corrupt government. This whole scenario is really a mysytery of galactical proportions.

Bush drinking again???

I thought it was cocaine

I wish these tabloids would make up their minds.

OMG, is that true about Bush? I just told my husband yesterday that he looks like he may have had a drink! That we be too coincidental! lol!

Too soon to harm those clowns.

An individual who whishes death upon another individual is mentally ill. Dying (pun intended) to see someone get shot is a mental disorder. Whoever thinks it's ethical and OK to kill Joran, should start to wonder how ill they really are...

I don't believe the article for a second. Sure, some people are pissed that the three of them walked, but I doubt anyone is stupid enough to act on it. I give no credence to it at all, maybe the families just want protection for them.

lets hope all three get wacked!! the sooner the better!! Dutch/Aruba have already shown the world they have better things to do than worry about murder. they would not be missed....

The source NE, urrr, ummm what can I say? The report is believable. (ask me if I'm surprised)
Joran got out of jail and he and pops jumped ship and got the heck outta Dodge just about the first flight (before anyone changed their mind).
Thus they left all that mess they created in the first place to anyone left on the island. Pissed off? Mad? Ya think?

They would need four contracts after these four creeps. Who cares what happens to them? Mrs. Twitty lost her daughter, they are walking free. WHERE IS NATALEE? Why should Jurine go to college and the K2 creeps keep partying in Aruba? Anita, Kalpoe Mother, God help you, if He can. Karma Law. You two women know perfectly well what your little babies have done and stupid Paulus is there protecting himself and his Baby Hewey? Someday the truth will come afloat, Sweetty Paul!
You and all your kind will pay. I sure hope you mother's would have a daughter, and know what it's like to raise an intelligent nice daughter to just loose her in a matter of hours. I hope Mrs. Twitty does not let them forget them they are around. So the PM got re-elected, will you keep your promise now about following up in this case? Hey! Karin Jansen, do you have any daughters?
Somewhere out there with money and power, will take care of all this, I hope!

Look, Bush used to drink and now is under more stress than anyone else on the planet. It's not unusual for ex-smokers to go back under stress, why not Bush and his drinking? Wouldn't be a big surprise to me. As for NE, I just remember how much credence is given to this tabloid after seeing Men in Black. You know?!

Before you hang all the tabloid magazines.....most of your cable news channels use NE, Globe, and others as sources in their stories....even naming them sometimes. It happens more than you believe

The one thing with the NH story is that the news media really hasnt done a good job investigating. The MSM does a poor job w investigative reporting.

The tabloids get it right about 50% of the time...which is actually a better pct than the MSM on these high-profile crime cases.

And, should we be really surprised that some are trying to off the VDS and Kalpoes?

I am against offing them, because the family still needs to know what happened

The Aruban govt refusal to investigate and prosecute this case is really the big problem.

Of course, there are some places in Bama where you can take the VDSs and Kalpoes and no one will ever know what happened to them

I recommend abducting the 4 and bring them somewhere for some intensive questioning. Truth-serum, submission holds, stun and taser guns will work.

So Joran decided to return to Holland for college? I thought he had a full ride scholarship to a Florida college at first - per Anita, his Mother.
Then I heard it was NOT a Florida college , but rather a Truck Driving School! Seriously!Am not kidding.

Being a nationwide truck driver would be up his alley - don't you think?

Oh Missy, that is scarey. I'm thinking of the seriel killer who was a truck driver and picked the girls up at truck stops, hitch hikers, etc.,
(goosebumps) but I doubt he was going to be a long haul trucker.

School of choice was St. Leo University ( a Catholic University) near Tampa. They have a sports management degree which I believe he was going for. Great school, beautiful campus, many many moons ago it was a private parochial school that Desi Arnaz attended after his family fled Cuba.

What a waste of youth. If he had it to do over I wonder what Joran would have done. Just gone home probably. "If you would have been home (mom) this never would have happened".-Joran Hindsight speaking I think.

An individual who whishes death upon another individual is mentally ill.
Posted by: reporter | Sep 25, 2005 5:32:40 AM

you have a lot to learn

I hope that President Bush is not too proud to get the help that he needs. Being President, I would think that he could get the best in terms of treatment and privacy. (and it really is, and should be, a private issue)

As for people targeting Joran, I hope that the Enquirer is making this up, but wonder if some wacko's reading about it might decide that it is a good idea. There is where responsible journalism comes in. Printing something like that is not responsible. In this case, they can't even be sued because they haven't named anyone! They are lowest form of scum to take advantage of such a horrible situation.

I still don't see where hurting any of the suspects will bring Natalee back. Their lives are already ruined. Mostly by American journalists who have no respect for anything but the money they are making by sensationalizing stories and passing lies as truth. As a result of this case, I no longer have any respect for Greta, Dr. Phil, or any of them for that matter. If something happens to Joran or his family or the Kalpoes it is a direct result of their publications. Maybe they could be tried for murder if something happens. They would be directly responsible and should be held accountable!!!

I wouldn't miss the Vander Sloot's if they get bang banged!! But I wonder, why would someone (unless they know Natalee very very well) would wanna lose their own freedom killing these scumbags ? Unless said person(s) have nothing left to lose? That's something I never "got", about people who kill or threaten to directly kill people like the Halloway disappearance suspects. As I said, I like too much my own freedom to do something like this...Prison is the last place I'd wanna be. Granted, it is frustrating that Joran and K2 are free while Natalee's whereabouts are unknown, but karma will take care of them. Hopefully there will be justice for Natalee and her family eventually, and VDS and K2 will have their b utts thrown in the slammer.

As for Bush back drinkin', IMO that's highly unlikely...Of course being POTUS is a very stressful job, so I would guess a drink here and there might take the edge off, although if he did have a drinking problem before it wouldn't be too good to hit the sauce again. Considering the source (N.E, while a fun rag to read ain't exacly truthful at all times) I don't think it's true, although if it is I'd hope Laura or Karen Hughes would tell him to quit it before he does something really dumb, which could happen down the road when someone who had a booze problem and quit for almost 20 yrs falls off the wagon...I doubt that a bad drunk (not saying that Bush is,but most people who are sober for 20yrs didn't quit because they were good w/alcohol)is fun to be around and in control of the job.

I hope whoever does it post pictures

An individual who whishes death upon another individual is mentally ill. Dying (pun intended) to see someone get shot is a mental disorder. Whoever thinks it's ethical and OK to kill Joran, should start to wonder how ill they really are...

Posted by: reporter | Sep 25, 2005 5:32:40 AM

You are right. It is scary to see how many screwed up people are out there. Whats really scary is that alot of them claim to be Christians. I hope all of them are ready to explain why they behaved this way when there was nothing to support thier hatred. We are not supposed to judge others.

I can't believe that anyone thinks that bush's drinking is a "private matter" he is the leader of our country. if he is an alcoholic, this could be severly damaging to the safety of all of us. no one would have elected an alcoholic in this country. alcoholic parents neglect their children. alcohol is a crutch. he doesn't have the coping skills neccesary to be a leader of a country let alone a family if he is an alcoholic. so many people on so many drugs, that still doesn't make it acceptable. our nation and world is suffering from a sever lack of love.

Joran, Paulus, and the Kalpoes need to TRY to be real men--tell the truth and pay the price for any misdeeds.
Only then can they move on with their lives.

"I can't believe that anyone thinks that Bush's drinking is a "private matter" he is the leader of our country. if he is an alcoholic, this could be severly damaging to the safety of all of us."

I agree--I want a completely sober man making major decisions for the country.

An individual who whishes death upon another individual is mentally ill. Dying (pun intended) to see someone get shot is a mental disorder. Whoever thinks it's ethical and OK to kill Joran, should start to wonder how ill they really are...

An individual or individuals who take the life of a young girl after raping her should be BRUTALLY tortured then killed!! I have to laugh when I hear all the comments about forgiveness and not taking lives of scumbags. Sometimes it is justified! If it were my daughter and I caught these 3, they would pray for death. Not only that, I'd have a confession to boot!

Eeuw! (if true) Hope he sticks with a few good shots at the end of the day and doesn't go the way of Jeltsin...

some people on this board use the words "mentally ill" when people want to kill the three suspects.what about the three suspects?aren't they mentally ill for druging natalie's drink and then took her for a ride thinking that she was going to the h.i. and instead was gang raped in joran's home and most likely murdered?who ever kills these three will be considered a vigilante person by me!i want these three young men killed with gun shots to their mid sections and head!

"Too funny! I can't believe the NE prints such stuff. More, I'm amazed people buy it. Ya know, in the rare event the NE was to publish something truthful, nobody would believe it because of all the s**t the tabloid is know for."

Actually, the National Enquirer these days has to have solid sources and evidence to print these things, or they'd be sued. They're very careful to make sure they have evidence for a libel case before they print something scandalous. For this reason, I'm inclined to believe it.

An individual or individuals who take the life of a young girl after raping her should be BRUTALLY tortured then killed!! I have to laugh when I hear all the comments about forgiveness and not taking lives of scumbags. Sometimes it is justified! If it were my daughter and I caught these 3, they would pray for death. Not only that, I'd have a confession to boot!

Posted by: Netjunky | Sep 25, 2005 1:17:10 PM

Ok, where is your proof that this happened? You prove it, and I will agree with you.

I hope all of them are ready to explain why they behaved this way when there was nothing to support thier hatred. We are not supposed to judge others.

Posted by: angela | Sep 25, 2005 11:58:15 AM

I agree, revenge is ugly. Someone would have to be very tournmented to be able to plot and plan such a thing. Some people believe might makes right. lol

What's the big deal? Bush is certainly not the only or last prez to take a cocktail or two..and in Texas a shot of whisky is considered a cocktail..

I wish he didn't, wouldn't..but I dont' see anyone complaining about Ted Kennedy's drinking..or the rest of the DC bunch..or starting in a cry to have the white house dry ...

Just guess I dont' see the problem here ..except media induced one.

And I a tee totaler..and MADD mother.

I dont' think it matters much whether NE story is true..

what matters is if the K2's or Joran believe the story.

Might stir up some info..

Certianly I would be trying to tell the story and get a deal and into a witness protection program asap.

There are plenty of nuts out there ..to make this a real possibility..

Wonder if Paulus is sweating again?

Yes it vigilante ..and no ..its not right or legal..but it still might be a possibility..

I going to say now..I don't think I would grieve over any of the four of them at this point.

I do not understand what the problem could be.

Should i have concern if Paulus feels threatened?

It is not any of his friends from Aruba is it?

Hey... Maybe it is Steve Croes?
Row boat on top of his car ready for action.!! Kinda have boat will travel.

Maybe with all the media and searches being in the spotlight.
His owed "gambling debts" to the casino were never considered paid.
The mob puts the price on Jorans head to teach Paulus a lesson.
Paulus has been shielded from the law all along.

Just get Anita and her young son the heck out of the way.
Let human nature take its course.
Not a problem

I wouldnt at all be surprised if the Mob caps these 4 for bringing too much attention to their little island of corruption. The whole world is looking at Aruba now...it's no longer a good place to conduct their operations

Angela, You are a warped individual.

There isn't a single person on this thread that has legal, first-hand knowledge to the evidence in this case. Yet some are ready to kill, torture, etc. the 3 main suspects. Those people betray the very values on which the United States was founded, and if they profess to be Christians, they betray that faith as well. Yet they portray themselves as noble, righteous, and courageous for wanting to do so. Their violence, hatred, and intolerance only succeeds in continuing the cycle of violence, hatred, and intolerance in the world. Such attitudes and behaviors are a part of the problem, rather than a solution to a problem.

The only true justice is that which is condoned by the law, and passed onto those who have been convicted of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt baed on the evidence presented in the appropriate court of law. Anything less represents vigilante justice and risks carrying out revenge on the wrong parties.

Oh come on now. It is a very well known fact that George Bush has had MAJOR problems with alcohol consumption in the past. Therefore, why would it be such a huge surprise that during this period where everything is going awry he might revert to the use of alcohol?

Also, re death threats against VDS and K2. A lot of people on this blog have been shooting off their mouths (or rather typing) about the killing, maiming, etc. of these individuals Personally I did not take it seriously but you never know what sort of wacko reads here and could be influenced by some of the garbage written.

If you go back to the OJ case and several other instances of reporting on various matters, the MSM was looking to the National Enquirer for leads. More times than not, they are fairly correct in what they publish. Not all the time, but enough of the time so that one can believe they do have facts.

As for Mr. Bush...The day before your post I saw him on the news and thought, gee, he does have rosy red cheeks...And I pray for Natalee.

Festicles,

OK you got me...you are correct to say that there is no concrete evidence that anyone can produce against the 4 likely suspects. But there is sooooo much compelling evidence that links the three in question to a possible crime scene:

1. Urine saying that something "bad" happened. How would he know something "bad" happened if he wasn't in or near a possible crime scene?

2. PVDS saying, "No body, no case". Strange to say isnt it? Wouldnt he be more apt to tell his son dont worry because he has nothing to worry about due to his innocense, IF he really had nothing to do with it. This statement almost guarantees that he was confirming with his son that a body was disposed of, so no worries.

3. The Kalpoe mother implicating herself again and again then proclaiming, "They lie, they all lie".

4. Stories that change and change and change based on the current weather in Aruba.

Many pieces of information that all point to the 4 likely suspects...too many to ignore! Doesn't there seem to be an uncanny amount of coincindences?

This is all SAD!

NE is SAD!

Dan, this post is SAD.... Why waste the reputation you have for more credible reports?

I'll just go back to skipping over anything from NE.

I can see the NE when I try to buy nourishment at the grocery story .. where, as I leave to go eat good food, just seeing NE either makes me sick, or nauseated, or both .....

"struggling with a drug or alcohol addiction?"
https://secure.newlife.com/wrk/events.asp?workid=21

Well, All I can say is, if someone does take vigilante justice on the three amigos, just remember:

"No Body, NO CRIME!"

Thus, you can walk completely free after a period of gentle questioning and sketchy investigation, particularly if you are in custody under Dutch authority and on Dutch land...and will be free to enjoy your bounty money pretty shortly thereafter.

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