What's With Fox News?

I have found it interesting that I sent Fox News, via their show On The Record, an email including some information which has yet to have been reported in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, and they never bothered to respond. Yet they do seem to bring on some of the same individuals, time and again, who really seem to have very little to add.

Even as a web logger, I can understand their lack of a response to me. So many tips and so much information flows in through email that's it's impossible to decipher what is legitimate and what is not. But, really, I was only following up for the Mother of a Mountain Brook student on the trip who has tried twice to contact the same show with no response at all.

Some excerpts of a communication she has sent to Fox twice failing to gain any response are below.

Title: A Frustrated Mountain Brook Parent

My child is reportedly the last to have spoken to Natalee -----------------He reports something very different about Natalee's departure from C&C's. I am so frustrated. It is baffling as to why what he remembers is yet to be reported.

Perhaps you can share with me something that will dispel my frustration. The FBI is aware of what I would like to share with you. Both my son and I have spoken with them multiple times.

Greta - would it be possible to speak with you via phone or email? You receive hundreds of emails per day - more than likely, someone other than yourself reviews the content and verifies those messages that appear interesting. Perhaps the following information will assist Fox to verify my credibility: Please check with Jesse Waters, of the O'Reilly Factor. My son and I both have spoken with him.

Although I might not have the information that will solve the case, my son reports something completely different.

The real issue I have with this is that, after having had this information for sometime and spoken with a number of people about it - it seems to be more accurate than what Fox is currently reporting in significant respects.

Given that perception, it's difficult to determine if they are actually out there trying to understand what really happened, or simply following along on some script designed to attract viewers. I just don't get it.

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Comments

[ustt]

yeah! amazing dan

and tonight on Fox they showed a couple of web sites you could go with tips for the search one I managed to copy down

investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com

and guess what

I AINT' HAPPENING

nothing comes up

The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for might have been removed or had its name changed.

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Please try the following:

Open the www.investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want.

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[Observer]

Dan,

I know how confident you are that this witness is totally credible.Fox,TJ,Beth,Dave or jug really need to know this information if they dont already..And apparently they dont...As far as I know this is the only person to come out and say they saw natalee leave..

[stellartrack]

I forwarded your blog to Greta's email box on Fox. Hope it helps. I know it has helped 3 other times for me in the past 1 year.

Here is her email if others want it:

ontherecord@foxnews.com

[Observer]

Dan,

Maybee try MSNBC,They have been kickin fox's tale the last week anyway..

[MuirninAkaMrsPaulHewsonAkaBono]

Hmmmm....

Interesting Dan.

Maybe Fox doesn't want to report the "real story", because it would make them look like asses for pushing the "real" story, according to them.

BTW, I gave up on watching Fox. Their stories are boring anymore. I'm tired of their "new evidence in the Natalee Holloway case". Snore...

"Breaking news! Three grains of sand were found on the Chia Pet near the California lighthouse. Here, from Aruba, is Jossy , editor of Diario to report on that".

Jossy: Dis grans of san mu be link to Nutaalee..

Yeah, yeah, whatever Jossy.

We believe whatever you say.

[dave]

Something I have always wondered is could this guy be confusing Satish with Deepak? Deepak's email reports that he was the first to go to the car, well before the other 3 did. To my knowledge, most of the information he gives directly before and after that is factually correct on at least a few details we can confirm from other sources. It would make the most sense to me, if this was just a confusion, since even I have trouble telling the two apart even after 2 months of seeing them in the media. Now could this MB witness who almost certainly was drinking to some extent, tell the difference between the two? I'm not so sure that he could.

[stellartrack]

investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com

is an email address only, not sure there is an actual website.

[ManWith2Dogs]

Who cares? Maybe Fox doesn't report on it because it isn't news.

Why does this MB mother care so much that her son's witness report is on the national and international news? Do they have a need to be on the news? If so, why?

You've said that the LE have this information. So if it in any way pertains to the case, they will make the best use of it. It doesn't seem that the news consuming public could make any use of this information. As far as the knowledge of the pulic at large is concerned, we have heard on the news that Natalee rode off with the three boys. It doesn't appear that this information changes that aspect. I don't think there is any other evidence in the news that this information would make any difference to.

What matters is what happened after they drove off in the car. The three witnesses to that haven't gotten on the news to tell their stories, and why would they? The news and consequently the rest of the world don't know what happened and we will all be the last to know. So what's the news about that?

[StandardPoodles]

Man with 2 dogs - I didn't read the posting that the mother was frustrated by the fact that the information was not reported on national news. Whether or not it is appropriate, is not our business, however it sounds to me that she feels potential information is being ignored.

[oneyka]

If this Mountain Brook mother has this information, why has she not approached Jug or Beth Twitty personally? They are from the same town. And why wait for the television show to make it public? The FBI already is aware of this information, does this mother want to cooperate with the information or just be interviewed by Greta? I wrote Greta a simple e-mail not to let the story fade, and I did get a simple answer, thanking me for reading and following the story from this Malaysia Island where I reside. I can not watch her show and many other US shows because Asia only shows CNN Asia and Larry King, its hard to get the shows and news from USA.
But this Riehl World keeps me very much up to date and guides me when to watch the news as soon as Dan gets the information. I just hope they find something soon!

[Dan]

It is the information which is important - yes, the authorities have it. But for the many people looking at the case, if they don't have the right info - how are they to go forward? And I dont just mean us here, I am talking about journalists asking questions, other individuals. You never know where the critical info could turn up so it is best to have people operating with the truth.

The analysis in other post, for example - quickly could see some possible usefulness in this new info - not new to us, of course - if it isn't out there, people can't work with it. Any of you who slight the Mother are being short-sighted, in my opinion.

[chandellesmom]

I agree. Try a different network. Fox wont air anything that goes against the initial reports. It would be hard to explain why Natalee walked 80 yards to get in a taxi.

[rr]

Email information to Natalee's Aunt Linda at investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com. I emailed a "tip" to that email box and got a personal response from Linda within 24 hours.

[just an observer]

They already spoken with the FBI about it so what now they want to appear on TV? The want the reward money, what?

Why would Fox report something and get in trouble IF it may be a tip that could help solve this case. All these TV star wannabees. Sick!

[POOPS]

BREAKING STORY IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY INVESTIGATION!!!! Once this is over, and it will be someday, Beth holloway will not hear again from Greta van Susteren. Fox will move on. It really is all about the ratings. Watch out Greta, Rita is on the move. She gets better in your face interviews. The only one I'll miss is Arlene Ellis-Schipper. What a beauty!!!!

[berry]

Wasn't there a young MB male with brown hair, who said he observed Natalee and a couple of guys walking down the pavement outside C and C's? I thought he described just a normal, leaving a bar/concert/show scene, with some cabs lined up and people walking across the street and down the street?

I thought he didn't note anything sinister. He certainly did not seem to think she was being escorted by cab drivers.

Or has this young man never spoken at all, publicly?

[kristin]

SO is this the guy in the photos always staring at Natalee? Up on the bar and again later when she is supposedly in the background at the door.

[Ashleigh]

The story with Natalee leaving with Deepak probably is rejected because it makes it look like Natalee wasn't as innocent, thinking she was getting a ride back to her hotel in a "taxi". The Joran story sounds much better.

But, who know? It bothers me that the Mountain Brook mom only wants to get on television. That's pretty sad. Too many people already are using this tragedy to get their face on TV. If she gave that information to the police and the tip lines, that should be sufficient.

[Anna]

Do they not have the number for the FBI tipline? IF this were credible, I am sure they would be getting the desired face time on TV. Too many trying to ride the coattails of this tragedy to stardom from bloggers to informant wannabees.

This lacks credibility in same manner as the witnesses produced by Jossy--why wait over two months do decide something is so important? If reported at the time, authorities have the information and so does the family. If they do not deem it credible, no reason anyone else would. All three suspects admit to being in the car with Natalee while driving away from C&C. Some of these alleged details are merely attempts to blame the victim for getting in that car. It is what happened later that is the question. Getting into a car should not result in disappearance and likely death. Last I heard, it was not a crime, either. It's the old 'she was asking for it' routine with same old twist.

[bhm mom too]

SO is this the guy in the photos always staring at Natalee? Up on the bar and again later when she is supposedly in the background at the door.

Posted by: kristin | August 15, 2005 09:45 AM

Now that is the kind of attitude that keeps witnesses or anyone else from coming forward. Heaven forbid, if Natalee is found, the person who finds her woudl probably be arrested.

[Dan]

Some of you are idiots - she doesn't want to go on television. All she wanted to do was give over the information to Greta to incorporate in her interviews and research. An appearance wasn't on the table. You people crack me up - you complain and see the worst in people no matter what. Such a terrible perspective with which to go through life ... shame.

[jgirl]

It is as if it is easier for them to just go after Joran, than to
bring Deepak back in. Nothing makes sense in this case.

[Paulo]

Other than the most obvious, I feel we are all being just a bit "Media-centric." We should not forget that most of us are either American or have had access to trial coverage, forensics, and open media when it comes to due process. Goodness! We even have Court TV!

Consider if you will: the FBI does have the information although the release of this information may indeed jeopardize the investigation, that is, what little investigation we know about, or if any at all. This appears to me as the most obvious reason.

Furthermore, I have heard about this situation in the past. My personal feeling is that Natalee was reaching out to that one person she knew would come at the expense of anything for her. If for no other reason, more needs to be pursued regarding this potential witness.

Sorry for the length, but just a quick word on FoxNews. What is up with them? We are watching a "hero-to-zero" act cutting off their own feet. As for me, I find I'm spending a lot more time at MSMBC lately. Thanks gang, I needed to vent!

Paulo

[kristin]

Now that is the kind of attitude that keeps witnesses or anyone else from coming forward. Heaven forbid, if Natalee is found, the person who finds her woudl probably be arrested.

Posted by: bhm mom too | August 15, 2005 10:05 AM

It was not an attitude. I was simply asking a question. Seems likely to me that it is the same guy. Do you know which pictures I am referring to? At the time they were being discussed, some thought he was Joran but it isn't.

If he was attracted to Natalee, it seems likely he would be watching her and saw her leave.

[berry]

I really don't care what FOX knows or reports. As long as this young man has reported his observation to the FBI, it's documented. Essentially he says Natalee left on the arm of or guided out by Deepak. Joran and Satish already left.

I guess I wonder what attracted his attention to the group, that he observed the stroll some 80-1oo yards in the distance. And he also has such a keen recall of events in that bar as regards Natalee and who she was with.

I might absently or even intently observe passersby for a moment or two - but not for a block or more.

This is just curiosity on my part. But whenever information is given, you must consider the information, and also the provider.

[*flo*]

You people crack me up - you complain and see the worst in people no matter what. Such a terrible perspective with which to go through life ... shame.

Posted by: Dan | August 15, 2005 10:13 AM

AMEN! ;)

[JL]

this just doesn't make sense. if this woman wanted her son's story to be reported, why didn't they plaster it all over the net or other networks willing to hear it? why is it not at the top of the blog right now? you would think that in knowing fox hasn't responded, she would tell someone else to get her son's story out.

[mishy]

Dan, you crack me up. I appreciate what you are doing and I love it when you call it like you see it. Reading some of the comments on this and other recent items you've posted, I had the same comments: "what ridiculous reactions! Why are these people always on the defensive?" Anyway, my advice (which I'm sure you've already done) is to tell that MB mother to contact Linda Allison via email at investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com...

And I think MSNBC's Rita has a great new show. I'd watch it more often if I could deal with listening to her voice for any length of time...

[b]

Just a little help for the fella who is trying to access the web site,
"investigation for natalee@yahoo.com" ...
That is not a web site buddy that is an email address!! You might want to try again.

[mia]

Why not post what this Mountain Brook Mom has to say here on your site? Would her son's version of the truth get Joran released from jail? Would her son's version of the truth free Satish and Depak from further investigation? What is her son's story about what happened around closing time at Carlos n Charlies? The world wants to know.

[Gale]

What a shame that Fox won't report this tidbit of info but they continually report anything and everything that Jossey and his newspaper says.
What I believe Dan is saying is this....The MNM is only giving one side of this story to the public. Why are they afraid to release info about Natalee leaving C&C's, on foot with DEEPAK? Think about it.

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Maybe this info should be forwarded to the FBI or the family investigator ??

...FORGET FOX NEWS!!!

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Maybe this info should be forwarded to the FBI or the family investigator ??

...FORGET FOX NEWS!!!

HOPEFULLY SOU SEE THIS DAN OR THE MOM!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sharon]

COMMENT:
Perhaps you can share with me something that will dispel my frustration. The FBI is aware of what I would like to share with you. Both my son and I have spoken with them multiple times.

RESPONSE:
I would not be worried about this bit of info. as stated above this person has already discussed this with the FBI....Cool out everyone....no biggy!!

[JL]

COMMENT:
Perhaps you can share with me something that will dispel my frustration. The FBI is aware of what I would like to share with you. Both my son and I have spoken with them multiple times.

RESPONSE:
I would not be worried about this bit of info. as stated above this person has already discussed this with the FBI....Cool out everyone....no biggy!!

Posted by: Sharon | August 15, 2005 02:15 PM

yeah, but the woman is complaining that fox is not reporting it...so if she wants it reported, then where is the story?

[annie]

Interesting. A couple of things disturbed me in this:

1. Why is On the Record more important that the O'Reilly Factor for getting out the information. Did O'Reilly turn them down and suggest On the Record as the place this story should be reported? What was the response she got from them?

2. "My child is reportedly the last to have spoken to Natalee" - who is "reporting" this? She is complaining that this hasn't been reported in the news but uses that term. So is she saying her child is "claiming he was last to see Natalee", or is she saying that, according to the MB kids, they are "suggesting he was most likely the the last to see Natalee". Does he know for certain he was the last to see her leave C&C's? I think this is one reason she may be having difficulty getting any response. She probably needs to put it in black and white exactly what she means.

3. "The FBI is aware of what I would like to share with you. Both my son and I have spoken with them multiple times. " I highly doubt the FBI would want a media frenzy on important facts to the case, especially if it could jeopardize the prosecution. Instead of this person focusing on getting media attention, I think they would be better off making sure the prosecution has the facts. Why are they not trying to talk to the prosecutor in Aruba about this instead or the lead investigator Eric S. about this? Instead it seems they are focusing on making sure the American public is being swayed. I think it is important that the people have FACTS. This boy may have a fact to share, but what should be first and foremost on their minds is helping the HT family succeed in successfully finding Natalee and prosecuting the case. It should be far less significant that the press get hold of this.

Personally, I think this person's focus is all wrong if you ask me. While I agree that the public should get a true view of what really happened, I think it is far more important that Natalee be found and that this case be able to truly be brought to trial.

[letsbefair]

Fox is only interested in promoting the delusion. Happy mass delusion everyone!

[calista]

wasn't there a email address natalees aunt gave out? it was hope for natalee2yahoo.com or something wasn't it I don't think it was the same as above though - think it had a underscore listed somewhere in it but it was for tips etc

[calista]

Why does this MB mother care so much that her son's witness report is on the national and international news? Do they have a need to be on the news? If so, why?

another good question manwith2dogs....I am curiuos why she isn't pressing the fbi agaent she spoke to and not the media........and also if it is important, couldn't her blabbing this all over hurt it as evidence in a trial?

[calista]

sigh........more publicity seekers

[Sol Rosenberg]

NET - more bullshit

(yawn)

[NewYawkGirl]

ustt
investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com

and guess what

I AINT' HAPPENING

nothing comes up

The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for might have been removed or had its name changed.

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this is not a web address ..its an email address linda allison set up for tips...at least thats how i took it
try emailing to it

[C.Schroeder]

Does Dan Rather Ring a bell!

Reporting unsubstaniated material gets news anchors terminated from their jobs.

If the intiator of this thread has hard incontrovertible evidence they should alert the Aruban government and The FBI.

[Anna2]

about the investigation_for_natalee@yahoo.com

As has been said this is an email address set up by the aunt. It is specifically set up for any one who may have had prior contact with Joran in a similar scenario to what they think happened to Natalee - such as being separated from group, drugged, hit on, or even just been a witness to his stories such as being a foreign exchange student, etc.

The email address hope_for_Natalee@yahoo.com was originally established for this purpose but because of the enormous amount of emails of support and encouragement coming to this address, they set up the second one and are asking people to use it specifically to share leads & tips dealing with direct contact with Joran or one of the other suspects. The family has expressed their gratefulness for the emails of support and encouragement and asks those types of emails continue to be sent to the hope_for_Natalee address and the investigation_for_Natalee address be reserved for peope who have had some contact with any of the individuals suspected in this case. They are getting an enormous amount of emails and this will allow them to follow up any leads that may come in.

Hope this clears up the confusion and that all will respect the family's request to send only 1st hand accounts of experiences with Joran or the Kalpoes to the investigation address.

[warrenb]

Posted by C. Schroeder

"Does Dan Rather Ring a bell!"

"Reporting unsubstaniated material gets news anchors terminated from their jobs."

---Yes so I guess everyone at Fox news should be fired since theres been plenty of "unsubstantiated material" on Fox regarding this case. Matter of fact, just shut the whole network down because ther'd be no more commentators left anyway.

[Mimi]

Has anyone considered this scenario? Natalee thought she was getting a ride back to the Holiday Inn. When she realized she wasnt, she tried to get out of the car, fell on the road and hit her head. Or maybe she had a severe asthma attack while resisting someone's advances - I have heard very little about her asthma, just one reference that she suffered from it. How serious was it and did stress aggravate it? ...just posing some different thoughts on this mystery --

[bubble]

Why not post what this Mountain Brook Mom has to say here on your site?... What is her son's story about what happened around closing time at Carlos n Charlies? The world wants to know.

Posted by: mia | August 15, 2005 12:55 PM

I agree, the world most definitely wants to know.

[bubble]

BTW, I gave up on watching Fox... .I'm tired of their "new evidence in the Natalee Holloway case". Snore...

"Breaking news! Three grains of sand were found on the Chia Pet near the California lighthouse. Here, from Aruba, is Jossy , editor of Diario to report on that".

Posted by: MuirninAkaMrsPaulHewsonAkaBono | August 15, 2005 03:21 AM

After, how many weeks has it been now?? I finally stopped tuning in this week. I agree with your post but the final straw for me was that I just couldn't listen to the phrase - I dont want to talk about that- anymore, ever, again...

I feel for the family, and I want them to have resolution/closure, but unless there are some new developments that someone does want to talk about I'm afraid that I; and many more just like me, will be tuning into the new fall lineup.

[Virginia Williams]

Natalee and her family have been in my thooughts and prayers since her disappearance. Those three boys knnow what happened and they should be made to tell. This mother is going through agony every day.

[Tony]

Thank God for Nancy Grace on Headline News!!! she has been following this case sonce the very beginning. She also vows not to end it until Natalee is returned or her body is found. Check your local listings. I usually catch it at 1am EST, Monday through Friday on Comcast Cable channel 58.