Once More On Miller With Feeling

Geesh - you people see through everything I write, don't you?

Okay, time to "fess up!" Yes, I have had an "agenda" in this regard.

Here's a truth - when another web log wrote me and asked for a link to a Miller interview I gave it to them. I also told them then that I was no Miller fan. This was long before our beef, or one of the web log owners hooking up with EquuSearch, which I couldn't care less about, frankly.

Actually, that was our last communication. They never asked me why. Though, at the time, I believe, I did say in that email that some of the reports I was getting from the island were disappointing and surprising.

The reason I felt that way is simple and I didn't report it at the time, as it just didn't seem important.

Look when this is happening? Where is the family? They're in Alabama.

(Qualifier) I have never spoken to any member of Natalee's family, including her Father Dave Holloway.

What I will share in the way of a FACT as regards this issue is this - when some people were speculating that Dave Holloway wasn't "involved" enough - he was spending most everyday scouring the island, often on a three wheel all-terrain vehicle doing everything he could to find his missing Daughter.

What I also know is that at least one distraction he had was his feeling that he had to sit on or otherwise worry about Miller creating more fuss than anything else by running his mouth off and pissing off the very people the family needed to rely upon to try and get some answers. Not to mention a run in Miller had with the press at an early dive site which alienated nearly everyone on the island.

Other isolated reports I have been given from AMERICANS on Aruba as regards ES:

They often showed up late for starting, searched for two hours and complained when their, I believe, comped lunch wasn't on time. According to one US source, it was a joke.

Divers took vacations to go there but had two day decompression periods before and after their first and last dive. That was said to result in less than effective action and more time off than on while on Aruba for some - as no ground activity had been co-oridinated ... well, there's always the beach or the casino's, I suppose.

The most significant injury I have heard of that EVERYBODY is talking about behind the scenes but noone has or even will confirm, is that an ES member fell down drunk after leaving Hooters at 2-3 AM and was said to have broken his hip. As stated, that report is UNCONFIRMED ...

And NONE of this information comes from any Aruban based sources, or anyone affiliated with the government of Aruba - or affiliated with any of its media in any way. My best sources have always been Americans in Aruba as a result of this tragedy.

There ... you want the TRUTH ... you got it.

No, sorry, I'm not a big fan of MIller and haven't been since the phone call when I found  out the first item above ... over a month ago.

End of Story.

Comments

[Cindi in PA]

I seem to remember someone here yesterday or today talking about a Jessie on another blog site, there talking all kinds of shit. Take that into consideration, could be the same person.
AND JESSIE...............STFU.

[TS]

Well, one thing is for damn sure, Dan. Nobody can accuse you of beating around the bush now. ;)

I'm truly sorry for your loss, Cindi in Pa. :(

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

I agree wholeheartedly Cindi. I pray never to walk in Beth's, Dave's or Tim's shoes...and I am truly sorry you have suffered the same kind of loss. I have always said I do not know what would become of me if something happened to one of my children....and I am amazed and humbled by the strength of those who manage to carry on.

[Kat_Gram]

Dave Holloway seems to be left out of the Twitty's information loop. On LKLive and NG, they would have Beth and Jug make some statement and then Dave would be on. He would not have a clue about the information they just told the world.

I do look at and listen to alot of information. I go back to the beginning of the posts and reports. I do not understand why more attention is not paid to the call that was made to Alabama the evening that Nat went missing. It is the one that Beth listened to on her way back to Alabama.
Did the FBI come up with anything on this call ?
What was on the call ?

It is difficult to figure out what the Twittys want at this point. The FBI is working with the Arubans. Holland has sent in special juvenile investigators. Jossy and Geraldo are on the rumor mill, just a-cranking them out. This should have all been done at the beginning but now that the case has gone cold, what do they (Twittys) think they can accomplish ? Aruban Lawmakers are not about to change their laws. Why can't they all just leave it alone for a while ?

[westcoast]

Cindi - I get it, but you should have really quoted sleuth to make your point....

"But quite frankly, maybe not the brightest flea on the dog. And the man butchers English. Many Arubans speak it better than Miller. But I have seen other members of ES that seem to be some of the good guys" - slueth

Posted by: gallowaygirl aka mojo | August 2, 2005 12:09 AM

My point to you gallowaygirl is that in your original post you were trying to compensate and collaberate to give reason for Tim Millers presence going to the VDS property and then you equated that with Beth going there, meaning it was ok.

Thats my point, and that is how you put it forth in your original post.

I thought you weren't going to post again or read any responses?

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

Oh I don't know Kat Gram....I'm trying to figure out how it would feel to 'just leave it alone'. What do you do?.... go home and go back to your regular life? grocery shop, pay the bills, watch a little reality TV ....and try not to wonder where the hell your daughter is????

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

NO westcoast. You cannot reshape my point to suit your needs.

My point was and still is, this... I believe it is possible Tim Miller was manipulated by Fox into publicly challenging PVDS. I think the fact that PVDS previously acquiesced to Beth and Greta when confronted with cameras may have led Tim Miller to believe that the same approach might do the trick again and gain him access to the back yard. NO statements were made by me as to the propriety of either confrontation.

And I don't really understand with whom you think I am 'collaborating'?

[lee]

hey...Birmingham Dog...we're all adults here....spill the goods......

I think we can handle it....

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

Oh and one more thing westcoast. I also never said I wasn't going to post or read. I said I feared 'banning' for my opinion. You have real bad habit of misquoting people or are you just being disingenuous and deliberately missing the point?

[westcoast]

To gallowaygirl,

My point to you gallowaygirl is that in your original post you were trying to compensate and collaberate to give reason for Tim Millers presence going to the VDS property and then you equated that with Beth going there, meaning it was ok.

Thats my point, and that is how you put it forth in your original post.

I thought you weren't going to post again or read any responses?

I stand by my response to you from your original post and your intentions.

Case closed.

P.S. I thought you weren't going to post or respond to any posts after your original post that I responded to?

What is up with that? Are you for real? You seem to have taken a hankerin' to all of this at this site but you are fighting within yourself to prove your point. LOL

[k.jeanne]

It is very sad to me how small some minds become. How bored people start to rip apart the very hearts of those once held in such passionate care--Beth Holloway and family. Nothing has changed for Beth, her daughter is still missing. Her determination has not waivered. The same for Tim Miller. His Equusearch team is doing a job that NO one else wants or will do. Yet he has been thrown to the dogs...dead meat...throw the bum out! You who participate in this idle mud slinging should be ashamed! Get back to the point: The search, a lost child, the grief of a family.

[clintcarter]

I think the critical point is that these guys were Volunteers, apparently ones not inclined to lose their Fun Time if they're not being Paid for it. A situation like that reflects the Leader. To go there and not be gnarling at the bit to get down and dirty? A slapdash operation of (mostly - that's my Librul side) cowboys pumped up by their image. One good administrator could turn Them People into something to be proud of.

So check this here. Dan does this blog for Free. You know, big chunks of time NO income? He's what volunteer work is about, not mugging for the glory. Ugh ! I hope that's exaggerated.

Dan oyu ndon't Even need to respond to people questioning your work. Hell, you could be filling us with lies and you could do that, because it's your blog. So keep the acid down man. You been in a Zen state, keep it going.

[clintcarter]

Sorry KJeanne, I just don't think what I read here is an image to be proud of.

[mick]

I believe that it was wrong for Tim Miller to present himself at the Sloot residence and call Paulus out as it were and I have previously said as much. I can also understand Mr. Van Der Sloot's refusal to let him on his property. Dave Holloway himself stated this evening that the property has been searched by Aruban LE with dogs and that the FBI present. Although it is possible, I find it hard to believe that this search was directed by Paulus Van Der Sloot. I assume that a search warrant was obtained and they searched where they pleased. With regard to the well, in looking at the arial photo of the Sloot residence, I find it hard to believe that this is even an issue. The point is that the property has been searched and cleared by LE, with oversight by the FBI, and it is, after all, their investigation. Not the investigation of Tim Miller. In Mr Miller's mind, it seems, an area is not cleared until HE clears it.

The point is that Mr. Miller should be taking his cues from the local LE and not just roving about the Island engaging in any activities that he chooses. This is obviously not the case as, having failed to obtain permission from Van Der Sloot, he's got people searching the properties of Sloot's neighbors. I think LE should step in and give him some ground rules and some possible direction.

The activity at the landfill is another example and while this activity is certainly not harming anyone, it is interesting to note who is not at the landfill. That would be local LE and the FBI. The landfill was searched by LE with dogs around the time of Natalee's disappearance. I believe that as far as they were concerned, the area was cleared. I personally find the testimony of this new witness extremely questionable. I just can't imagine anyone seeing a body being disposed of and not taking some subsequent action. Wouldn't any of you have, at the very least, waited for the perpetrators to leave and then walked over and looked? He went through the trouble of getting their license plate number but didn't even confirm what he saw by walking over and looking under that pool? Obviously I am not there and have not talked to the witness but I assume that LE has and has followed up on his statement.

I wouldn't presume to question Mr. Miller's motives but I have wondered about his credibility for some time. He has seemingly been all over the place with regard to his statements that have ranged from their will be a funeral next weekend to she's not on the Island. His obsession with the Boca Prins dunes and his insistance that Natalee was in the shallow trench at one time in spite of the fact that all indications, including the dogs, methane detectors, ground penetrating radar and physical searches all yeilded nothing is telling. The harrassment of the Van Der Sloots and the threats broadcast around the globe speak for themselves. He would do well to consider that TEQ is a guest on Aruba and his activities have been facilitated by the good graces of the Aruban Government and the Aruban people and that his function, by his own words, is limited to search and recovery.

[Kat_Gram]

By leave it alone, I mean that they don't need to be on every interview show every night. Let the polis and the FBI do their work.
By increasing the reward to $ 100,000, they are encouraging the nut cases to come out of the woodwork. This might damage the case if there is a trial and no body. The false leads might become part of the defence.
If they are going to increase anything, increase the reward for the safe return. There have been no takers on that one.
I am not anti-Twitty, but it seems to me that Beth is a controlling kind of person and she wants to control the investigation.
Doesn't she have any faith or trust in the FBI ?
The case has gone cold and they are all out there chasing their tails. The media persons who are missing is Jerry Springer and Judge Judy.
I would like very much if Natalee was found one way or another. I believe that justice will be denied to the HT's as there is a conspiracy of silence by the main players, VDS's / Kalpoes.
If the HT are on TV or if they are not on TV, the outcome will be the same.
I just saw the NG show, TJ Mann said that the VDS are hiring their own investigator. I suppose there will be documented Natalee sightings now.
When you come down to it, it is the media who I am finding tiresome.

[kescah]

I am continuing to be concerned about the effect TJ Ward's going on TV with everything is having.

1) It ruins his credibility as a Private Investigator.

2) It could ruin the investigation and prevent a conviction since information which "gets out" cannot be used against the suspect(s).

3) It could cause any witnesses to clam up even longer than they have already. These people seem to be shy of the situation as it is, and knowing that their comments and maybe even their identities are going to be broadcasted all over the world and then get written up in a book could mean permanent silence. TJ WARD! Wake up! You are hired to help, not do harm!

[George]

The Bushy Haired Stranger forum has opened “Tim Miller(Equusearch) Total Psychotic?” thread at http://rjames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122 back on July 16.

This forum is not suggested reading for those too sensitive to questions regarding other people than van der Sloots, Kalpoes and Aruban LE; but those who have gut for reading stuff construed today as blasphemy, can find there many interesting opinions weeks earlier than those opinions are being widely recognized.

[faithfulreader]

Dan...Thanks for letting us in on the information that you have, it's always informative to know both sides of every story IMO.
gallowaygirl aka mojo...I agree about Miller being possibly steered by news media to confront PVDS. I would not let anyone come to my door and want to search without a search warrant either, no matter what. Why should he.
I don't know what to think anymore on who is guilty, one day I'm leaning towards JVDS and the brother's than next towards the kidnapp slave trade, than accidental death by overdosing, now don't really know. One thing we do know for sure is that a girl is missing and thier is not even a little bit of evidence found like her clothes, etc.
By the way westcoast sounds alot like another regular on this board who is always jumping in to argue with people, they just changed their name...

[AVA]

I personally find the testimony of this new witness extremely questionable. I just can't imagine anyone seeing a body being disposed of and not taking some subsequent action. Wouldn't any of you have, at the very least, waited for the perpetrators to leave and then walked over and looked? He went through the trouble of getting their license plate number but didn't even confirm what he saw by walking over and looking under that pool?

posted by Mick, August 2,2005

Agreed...I have a very difficult time thinking that anything will become of this landfill dig. Even if this 'witness' did not want to go and look himself, why didn't he at least call the authorities to take a look at the immediate time he saw this going on?

AVA

[Kap]

If Paulus had nothing to hide he would let them clear his property. Obviously he has something to hide. He has since the beginning.

The Aruban LE did not search the landfill. The FBI briefly searched it. The Aruban LE ignored this witness who went the police THE DAY AFTER HE SAW WHAT HE SAW and REPEATEDLY went back to the police only to be ignored.

There was major corruption and cover-up in the beginning. Anybody who doesn't see that is in pure denial.

[mick]

Not letting a civilian from another country not search your property does not equal having something to hide. That is a very limited view of things. People are motivated by many things. I have nothing to hide and I wouldn't let him on my property. With regard to the search of the landfill I can only say that Dave Holloway and others have said it was searched with dogs. Interesting that they did not say "briefly" searched. Also interesting that dogs were used and since the FBI didn't have any, I assume that local Law Enforcement must have been involved. It's fine to go on about this "major cover-up and corruption" however there are no facts to support it. Because people don't agree with the way the investigation was handled they assume that there exists some sort of conspiracy. The FBI was observing from the begining. Why is the FBI not claiming cover-up? I will give local LE the benefit of the doubt until someone can prove otherwise.

[just an observer]

Well we have to remember that equisearch is a VOLUNTEER group. What bothers me is when Beth gets all the accolades and its been said she is doing more to find her daughter than Dave is , that is a great disservice to Dave Holloway!! That poor man is doing a lot just because he isnt interviewed as much does NOT mean that he is less of a parent or hurting less than Beth. People are so defensive when it comes to her and it just doesn't make any sense.
As to Tim, well I too have seen something about him when he is interviewed that bothers most but we cant put our finger on what it is.

[TS]

The Aruban LE did not search the landfill. The FBI briefly searched it. The Aruban LE ignored this witness who went the police THE DAY AFTER HE SAW WHAT HE SAW and REPEATEDLY went back to the police only to be ignored.
There was major corruption and cover-up in the beginning. Anybody who doesn't see that is in pure denial.
Posted by: Kap | August 2, 2005 08:27 AM

Right on, Kap! This whole case reeks of a coverup.

[Wacky Theories]

Sorry, I've been away in the Poconos "decompressing" at the Poconos Blues Festival.

I thought the intention of the host of this site/web-blog was supposed to be Objective and Un-opinioned. To report on news and investigation of a missing US teen abroad. But I guess Dan has let his emotions get involved. I dont know what his issue is with Eccusearch (I guess the Arubans aren't the only ones screwing up). He has advocated his viewers/bloggers to e-mail other website hosts to have certain websites taken off or banned that criticize/smear Natalee/Beth. Yet I haven't seen any effort to do the same with all the Anti-Aruba sites that have sprung up in the last 2 months over this case.

But I did look at some of the links to other blogs Dan recommends or supports.
Alot of Ultra-Republican, NeoConservative, Reich Wing..err Right Wing, Moral Majority, Funadmental Xian, and or Anti-Liberal/Democrat blog sites.

So these Eccusearch American Cowboys have been drinking/partying/gambling and moaning about their free grub? Sounds like the behavior of some of the HS kids on the May trip. If I were PVDS I wouldn't allow Tim Miller on my property either - he isn't Law Enforcement or has authority/jurisdiction (Paulus was probably made aware of Miller stalking/harrassing/threatening a suspect in his daughter's case). Makes me think this group thinks they are doing good, but at certain times authorities/LE roll their eyes and mutter under their breath complaining about these guys - pretty much like the Guardian Angels.
I wish it would go back to just reporting inside/breaking news or leads.

[just an observer]

"Oh I don't know Kat Gram....I'm trying to figure out how it would feel to 'just leave it alone'. What do you do?.... go home and go back to your regular life? grocery shop, pay the bills, watch a little reality TV ....and try not to wonder where the hell your daughter is????"

You asked what Beth could do? She has other children she should be paying attention to. They are not missing and they need her now. A 16 year teen doesn't need his mother? Since when? And what good is she doing in Aruba? Being interviewed? She could still get all her interviews in at home in AL.after she has taken care of her child's needs FIRST! So what if there are others taking care of him, he too needs his mother. Ok now you can rant and defend her, go ahead but you know that what I said is true.
The queens presence is not needed in aruba she can still run it all from her home in Alabama. And she can still hold all of her interviews from there.

I truly pray for her as a mother and for Dave as the father and I have nothing against either of the parents and I do not stand in judgement of either and what they are doing or how they are handling this entire tragedy BUT facts are facts and Beth needs to be home taking care of her family there and let the experts handle things in aruba!

[sun]

who are the experts in aruba? this case would have been non-existent if it wasn't for beth being in aruba . . . constantly wanting answers . her presence makes a HUGE difference . . the "experts" lol would love for her to STAY in alabama!

[AnnaMaria]

Again - this unnecessary bashing needs to cease. People are sending this information to Miller and if he pursues legal action against unsourced allegations it would be understandable. Tim Miller is doing a job not a one of you detractors, including Dan, would be willing or able to do. He is, I believe, doing it in full good faith. Whatever motivates you, Dan, to post rumors and innuendo without the confidence and ability to validate it through stating your sources, it's really meanspirited at its core. Yoir blog. Your reputation. I am sure that given a bit of digging, you too could be presented in a less than favorable light -- particularly with the aid of "unnamed sources."

[just an observer]

"who are the experts in aruba? this case would have been non-existent if it wasn't for beth being in aruba . . . constantly wanting answers .
osted by: sun | August 2, 2005 09:39 AM"

Sun, well "the experts" are the FBI AND all the PI's and attorneys, and equisearch,all hired by Beth and Jug and also Beth's brother, Dave Holloway are all there and are the ones trying to get answers. The PI's that they hired are trained to get answers. She is not a trained PI or is she the FBI she is a mother that needs to be home mothering her kids that need her. She can do all her interviews from her home and keep the home fires burning while keeping things in aruba burning as well.

Do you really truly beleive that the entire case would fall apart without her? This case has taken on a life of its own with or without her.

The FATHER, Dave is keeping pressure on as is her brother and Dave's sister. YET with all the pressure she is keeping on the authorities where has it gotten them? While I agree at the beginning it was Jug's friends and Jug that did get action with the LE and the grieving mother's determination worked with the American media. Now its time to allow the seeds planted to grow and possibly bear fruit in finding Natalee. Sometimes it looks like its all about Beth instead of all about Natalee.

[Hera]

Bottom linw - Tim Miller and his group are out there doing something to help the family. As volunteers, they have been a tremendous help to the case and the family obviously appreciates their efforts. That is all that matters, isn't it? I will not sit back in my air conditioned room in my cushioned chair and spurn their efforts. Regarding their mistakes, we all make them don't we? At least they are trying.

[ss]

dan... you keep posting your thoughts about Tim Miller.. i live in league city and have most of my life and we ALL know who Mr. Miller is....

[ev]

Why all this anger against the family as well as Tim Miller. Why aren't you angry at the 4 assholes who made Natalee disappear. I don't get it I will not continue to post on here. I will just read. Don't want to be part of this anymore.

[k.jeanne]

clintcarter, it's all we have just now, and I think the search for Natalee is more important at this point.

[vr]

Dan,

Pu-leeze -- you are better than this. Gossip ?
(what else are unconfirmed reports) that is really a cheezy way of "saying what you want
someone to consider as truth - and in most cases
used to discredit someone"

Come on, your opinions are just that -- and
are accepted as that -- but you are also in
a position that should demand some responsibility
since you have put yourself in public view and
MANY OF US RESPECT YOUR COMMENTS.

As I pointed out previously -- put yourself in
others shoes (daughter killed, working dilligently - no matter how unconventional
techniques -- for a serious cause, daily dealing
with hope, fear probably nightmares --- and
on and on --- NOT EVERYTHING WILL BE POSITIVE
IN SUCH ENDEAVORS AND I'M SURE THE BASIC SITUATION TAKES A STRESSFUL TOLE ---- BUT UNTIL,
YOU HAVE 'BEEN THERE -- DONE THAT' AT LEAST
BE FAIR --- Don't stoop to partial truths and
NO research except for ONE SIDE ! You really
are better than that and your justifications
are sounding really lame !

[JS]

You're an idiot Dan.... Those people are working so hard to bring Natalee back and all you do is run a gossip rag. Get a clue and actually have compassion and empathy for someone who has suffered a great loss and helps hundreds of families with their tragedies. You have no reason to spread rumors and lies about these people unless you happen to be digging around a landfill in 100 degree heat looking for a dead body. OH you're not?!? then SHUTUP and report real news!

[AUgirl]

I have a couple of questions:

1. Birmingham Dog..what part of town are you from? You seem to have some sort of vendetta against Beth and Jug Twitty...and I'm just wondering if you have some reason for it. I agree Dave Holloway seems like a good father and a general nice all around guy, but you need to get up off of Beth and Jug...you sound very childish, jealous and negative. I've been reading your posts since late last week and you just seem very down on them for no particular reason other than you like Dave. Apparently Dave used to like Beth, he was married to her. As for all the money sharing issues...I have been divorced and I will not judge how people handle their exes. It can be very hard. I'm just glad to see that they can at least come together to work for Natalee.

2. Where is all this anger coming from towards Beth? Just- an- observer , it is really interesting that you think Beth should just 'stay home now' and let the men run the investigation. What a narrow-minded point of view. If it weren't for the look in Beth's eyes that we have all seen now for 9 weeks...there is no way this case would have taken on the life of it's own that you refer to. Just a bit of insight from a mom: Yes, she may seem controlling of the investigation...and do you know why? Because she can't rest, she can't eat, she can't sleep, or think until she knows what happened to her baby. I understand that DAve loves his child too..and just as deeply, but a MOM has to KNOW! She can't rest at night unless she knows her children are safe. Have you never noticed that about your mother or your wife? Men can put it out of their mind for a little while, women cannot.

Regardless...I am praying along with all the other resonable people on this blog (ev, kjeanne,Hera,gallowaygirl, etc) that this family (the whole family!) find the answers they are looking for and find peace.

[Sam]

I am so glad to see some of the considerate post on Tim Miller and the Twitty's and Holloways.

I know that the majority of us coming here to read would love to see this case solved. No matter what the outcome. We come here to read because we are unable to be an active part of the search. I so admire all of the volunteers that make up Texas Equisearch and that includes Tim Miller.

So he gets a little carried away sometimes. I believe it is because he cares so much.JMHO I think the same thing happens with some of us here.
Sam

[MrsJimiHendrix]

don heneley

keep talking till the boys of summer
are back in town!! LOL

ok DAN WTF? I am very dazed and confused here. nothing new i suppose, but good people like my friend galloway gal getting upset. now i am confused here.

kat i agree that sm need to just move on. they are crazy. dan is better off without them.

ok this is about as much as i can handle today.

Dan the photo of Nat in the car, it really hit me. she was very beautiful and looked so alive

have a good day and try to get a long in NH's memory!

[MrsJimiHendrix]

CLINT

YOU ARE ROCKIN OUT AGAIN!!

nice words for Dan!!

[vr]

Dan,

unless you've lost a child, don't try to think

you "know" how such a loss affects anyone ! You

are playing God now -- Knock it off while you

still maintain some semblence of credibility,

honesty and journalistic responsibility.

Hopefully, you will never get to learn first-

hand by going through the tragedy of losing

a child -- especially under such horrible

circumstances: which would alter your life

permanently -- and you know, some of those

alterations might not be very politically

correct.

You are only human; perhaps many of us have

not considered that you might let that fact

enter into your writing. Sad ! Respect is

a big loss, whether or not you care or believe

that fact, doesn't change it !

[JailLess1]

"99% Sure She's Not On The Island"
I remember Tim making this statement after the group's last search. Now he's back and confident that Natalee is on the Van Der Sloots' property.

I don't discredit him at all for wanting to help, but I have a problem with this, for some reason. I guess I just feel like he should think more about what he says before he says it. Otherwise, he may wind up undermining his own credibility.

What made him change his mind so definitively after that statement?

[vr]

WONDER IF ....

Maybe she isn't on the property, in the well or

whatever BUT

MAYBE SOMETHING (OR SOMEONE ELSE) is ????

Right now, the Van der Slut's don't need any

thing else to discredit them --- future not

looking too bright ---- one more "strike" might

just be the straw !

[vr]

Miller might not be "in line" with protocol

many think appropriate -- but, bottom line is,

tell that to the parents and family of one of

his "success" stories -- even if only a body

returned -- at least that is closure !

I wouldn't care if he howled at the moon, should

he be working for me trying to find my child !

And, what in hell could be inappropriate after

what the world has witnessed by the lies,

coverups, total lack of regard and extreme

lack of ability or willingness to use it by the

Aruban puppets ? Whatever anyone does 8 weeks

later is fine in my book -- normally, I would

say up to the point of "being even" with the

crap that has been dealt in the name of

"investigation" -- In this case, can't think

of anything quite "low" enough to equal it ---

Anything done to the players to bring an end

and shed some light on a rare commodity there

(honesty) -- Oh well, if you can't stand the

heat ?????

[Bigfish]

Lord knows what sort of chemicals and hazerdous wastes the searchers have exposed themselves and the dogs to. Asbestos, PCBs, benzene, DDT, mercury, and on and on. Fox is TE reported on Fox that a heavy equipment operator is sick from exposure.

[JailLess1]

And (((JS)), how do you (& other loud- mouths who come in to vent) get off telling someone 'how & what' to report on their OWN blog?! If you don't like the opinions written here by the owner then BOUNCE, you know like step off, trust me you won't be missed!! And I don't see other people's opinions as rumors & gossip. Only a weak, gullible-mind would allow themselves to be influenced by the mere opinions of others, accepting it as carved in stone. Opinions are healthy & most of us come here to participate WILLINGLY because intelligent & logical opinions help us to get a different & broader perspective on the situation at hand...can u comprehend that or is that too difficult for you also?!

[vr]

In the Name of Justice?

With the history of corruption, money laundering, people traficking, and you know
the list, what makes any of you whiners think
these players involved in the so-called
investigation deserve any better treatment than
they have dished out?

Yes, in America (and other countries), these
sleazes would have "rights" until "proven" blah,
blah, blah.....

WHEN IN ROME, DO AS THE ROMANS.........

If my daughter was "stolen" from me and I had

been lied to, deceived, and more or less

minimally pacified by these creeps, I'm sure

honest justice (THAT DID NOT EXIST IN ARUBA)

would be the least of my considerations.

The crap that has been issued, intentionally

documenting what idiots are running (like puppets)

the system there, should be treated likewise !

Afterall, fact is: you cannot cross-compare

cultures -- so, give them some of their own

Top-Legal-System inspired and activated JUSTICE !

FAIR ENOUGH ?

[MrsJimiHendrix]

DONHENELEY, CLINT, DAN

on the road today
i saw a dead head
sticker on a cadillac

[JailLess1]

Yes ((big fish)), I agree w/ you. Puts something on your mind, doesn't it? Thank God for the existance of good people like those all helping & contributing in various ways from here to Aruba. I'm sure her parents are very, very grateful.

[VR]

EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPOUT OFF ALL THEY

WANT AS TO OPINIONS, ETC. BUT DON'T YOU THINK

THAT WHEN A PERSON SUCH AS DAN REACHES THE POINT

IN THIS SYSTEM AS MODERATOR, OWNER, ETC. AND

CONSIDERED A 'JOURNALIST' ??? THAT HE SHOULD AT

LEAST ASSUME RESPONSIBLITY FOR HANDLING

REPORTS, ETC. (NOT JUST MESSAGES IN BLOGS)

AS MATURE AND FACTUAL, SINCE HE REPRESENTS A

PROFESSIONAL, EDUCATED OBVIOUSLY IN HIS POSITION?

OR, DO WE JUST ACT LIKE WE DO WHEN ANY CELEBRITY

ACTS INAPPROPRIATELY ----- MAKE EXCUSES ?

NO ONE IS REALLY AFFECTED BY HIS REMARKS, TO ANY

GREAT EXTENT -- IT'S EASY TO NOT BE DOGMATIC AND

TO BE OPEN-MINDED, BUT I DO THINK MANY ARE

DISAPPOINTED, AS DAN IS CONSIDERED MORE

INTELLIGENT, MATURE, ANALYTICAL, AND ALWAYS

A PROFESSIONAL --- NOT JUST SOME LOUD-MOUTHED

RADICAL, PRINTING UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS ---

THAT IS WHY HIS COMMENTARIES ARE ACTUALLY READ

AND NOT SKIPPED OVER --- HIS REPUTATION HAS

CREATED INTEREST IN HIS FOUNDED OPINIONS, EVEN

IF NOT ALWAYS AGREED WITH !

Honestly, I think we are just DISAPPOINTED !

AND YES, I KNOW I AM SHOUTING ---- THAT IS THE

ONLY WAY I CAN EMPHASIZE HOW SERIOUS THIS MATTER

HAS BECOME ! I cannot see anyway Dan can

'gain' from this --- hopefully, whatever he

"needed" by dropping to this level has been

fullfilled !

[MrsJimiHendrix]

jessie

it was silly with you the other day with the house. even entertaining and funny to watch you go back and forth.. but this, just what are you trying to say and for whom do you speak? I have a feeling you are up to no good here

[Bigfish]

[quote]Yes ((big fish)), I agree w/ you. Puts something on your mind, doesn't it? Thank God for the existance of good people like those all helping & contributing in various ways from here to Aruba. I'm sure her parents are very, very grateful.[/quote]
In addition to the chemical waste, the searchers are exposing themselves to many biological hazzards and danger from medical waste.

I would guess that TE will encounter great difficulty in trying to convince locals to continue to participate in the search of the landfill.

If the searchers continue in this endeavor, they can expect to incur serious long and short term health issues.

Hopefully, TE has heavy equipment operators in Texas willing to sacarfice their health in order to continue the excavations.

Bigfish