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Isn't this already evident?

And this is new news? Anything else going on? Been out of touch for several days, I have been trying to read previous posts, but someone save me the time, please, what's up with this case?

That article basically sums it up. Nothing new, no one is talking, and Natalee is still missing. Greta from FOX did an interview with Beth while in Alabama, showing the inside of her house and all of the letters they have received. Jossy said that kids at Joran's school have said he is drugging girls drinks. The media says he is an out of control teen. The pond and the landfill came up empty. Witnesses are turing up nothing. That about sums it up.

Hey Susan, Guess we are the only ones here? Do I still need to send in the Nascar Posse? I can contact Mr. Helton if needed...LOL

Here's the update.
Nothing new. Same old. Like the man said..10 different stories, case has gone cold.

It is so sad that it has come to this... Who would have thought that a person could just vanish in thin air, no clues left behind! It is just too scary to think about. I have a daughter that is Nat's age, who goes on trips with her church all the time and I never gave it a thought, you can bet I do now!

When the cops are hiding the truth it is always hard to get to the bottom of it. Maybe if Mama vdS knew what a perv her oldman was she may tell Joran to sqeeeel like the litle piggie he is.

Dale: (this was posted in forum 100)

You want news: Karin Janssen is back on the job - friday the judge will decide on the request by the Kalpoe brothers'lawyers if the further involvement of the FBI was legal - Stimaruba president (a nature foundation) was shocked that the breeding place of many birds was distroyed by pumping out the water of the salina. She had also just gotten back from her vacation.
Yesterday, all day long Joran was questionned by the experts from the Netherlands.

Posted by: blacklable | August 3, 2005 07:42 PM

Thought they could solve it in a couple of days so waited 9 or 10 to begin.

Mmm. Aaaah. No wonder! They were exhibiting confidence.

Mr. Paulus van der Sloot.

You are a genius! How did you ever fail to impress the Dutch Justice department in your ability to be a prudent judge? Your knowledge of Dutch law and prosecution strategies in criminal cases has baffled them all! Your ability as an advocate of the "innocent" is superb!

If Arubu has any hopes of maintaining it's image of "One Happy Island" they should now strongly consider YOU as the best candidate!

Regretfully,

Akekoa

QUESTION:

Does anyone know who the father is of Beth's 16 year old son?

I noticed in the interview that her and Jug gave to Greta back in Alabama a few days ago. When Greta asked who Matt was, Jug responded.."Beth's son"

I thought he was the father??

dave holloway is the father of the 16-year-old

OK Freeko take your meds!

not to sound like a total jerk but...

thank you captain obvious.

Dave Holloway would be the father, since Beth and Jug have only been married 5 years.

Not a virgin means she had played cards or craps before dumbass!

Not to be ugly, but while all these people were on "so called" vacation, what were they really up to? And, I am soooooo sorry about distrubing turtle eggs, really I am, but human life is more important, isn't it? So what does she have to say since returning as I didn't know she was back in the picture? Do ya'll think this will impact the "so called" investigation?

You have to interrogate to investigate.

All of the people who have been arrested have been brought in to get THE STORY straight. No one will pay for this until the police dept. is picked apart. This is corruption with a capital C.

Hidden in plain site.

The boys Mom has the key.

Thank-you anon and chicken little!

Is this the first time a Police official as been so forth coming with info?

I wonder why at this point the lead investigator would come out in public and give away info about his case. In my opinion people ALWAYS have a reason for doing everything they do inlife. What is his motive in going public???


GWD-Good find Dan-o

Who's TBO, where's this story comming from? Not reliable. If this was true it would already have been all over the island. Don't think the Lt will be talking about this.

Another thing,Jossy is an out of control adult.
In Aruba there was once a sticker (1994/5) saying "I don't believe what the Diario is publishing". Jossy is one of the biggest liars on the Island. Believe me it's true.

-Susan--good update. You covered everything but the weather and tide schedule.

Daelj-- Joran is still in the slammer, trying to outlast his temporary incarceration. I think 9-4-05 is the release date but one of the proscecutors mentioned hoping to find at least one piece of evidence to hold him for another 60 day period to continue the investigation.


Pray for Natalee and her family.

what's another ten when you already have 17?

buy 17 get 10 free!!
such a deal!!

Reading Dans post, watching Jug and Mark on Fox tonight. This is a cover-up, no two ways about it. There cannot be that many ignorant investigators within one law enforcement agency. Mark said in the interview, something to the affect, go after the weakest link.....NO , that is the first thing an investigator looks for when more than one person is involved. I am not LE, its just common sense.

Holy Hunch, can you elaborate? You talking bout Mama Kalpoe? She holds the key, to where Nat is hidden, which is in plain sight?

cindy,

go to the latest thread regarding maruatia. the lady's stateside daughter is posting. send her a message of goodwill. her name is Nan

Big Pappy

where have you been hiding out lately? your posts have been missed!!

i wish it were that easy, w/ regards to mama kalpoe

I've been around Ms. Jimi, nice to be loved, thanks!

Off to watch "Lost", back later or in the morning, take care all, pray for some development, family needs resolution bad :)

Are we to believe that it took Lt. Roy Tromp sixty six days to come to this conclusion?

:::: shaking my head ::::::

This entire thing is sinking into farce. Greta tonight on O'Reilly sounds as if she is handing over the sword. The Body Language people seem to be as useful as the tits on a bull, and the people on this and other blogs continue to raddle on without any facts except bits and fragments of imagination and speculation.

It is very very bad that Natalee is missing. I fear the worse for her at this point. However, I rejoice in the fact that Greta, Geraldo, and others have not been able to lynch Joran and he will have his day in court. What is the HARD evidence of a police coverup? That sounds like tabloid press to me.

The kid is smarter than the police...HELLOOOOOOO! He is going to be laughing when this is all said and DONE!! VERY sad!!!

Did you all hear what I just heard?

TJ Ward is being brought in and will be ejected from the island for not having a work permit, supposedly he had been warned, and has been knocking on doors investigating, people have complained, and since he does not have a work permit, they are bringing him in Tito Lacle says "they will do whatever they can to bring him in immediately"!!!!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggg, I cannot take this, they can leave Paulus and the Kalpoes running around and can't crack Joran, but they'll arrest and deport TJ Ward.

Good to see they have their act together in Aruba.

Disgusted here in PA tonight.

NEWS FLASH****

On the Record tongight reported that Beth is back in Aruba, (according to Tito) there is a warrant out for T.J. Ward by the Aruban Government, they may possibly deport him for investigating without a work permit issued from the Aruban government. Also in court today - Joran and Deepak were the only ones to show up...Satishe did not show up....judges ruling expected tomorrow regarding FBI involvement.
There will also be a court hearing tomorrow for the witness from the dump. Apparently the court, along with Joran's and the Kalpoe brother's attourneys will be questioning this witness...he may conveniently be deported as well (along with T.J Ward) because he is an "illeglal" from another nearby island and apparently he has been on the Aruban "deportation list" for a while.

If he is laughing and if he gets out maybe he will still consider school here in Central Florida

Unbelievable! >shaking head<

I know Big Pappy; I just watched that as well! Un-FREAKIN-belivable!!! They can let the two other guys that were last seen with Natalee Holloway walk free but....they want TJ out!!! Get a clue everyone...The U.S. needs to smarten up and do something a tad more AGRESSIVE regarding this case. This ignorant little 17 year old is sending all of you on a wild goose chase! It's pissing me right off!!!

Big Pappy

go back a few days and read about TJ Ward,
I am afraid you missed a few things on him.
they will make your stomach churn. if you cannot find them, have dan email you the link
(i don't know how to do that)

disgusted in CA!!!


Thank you Father Dan for editing my 9:56 pm post. And for anyone I offended, confession is at 7AM tomorrow morning, breakfast following. After all, I am sure my foul mouth will be at the top of the sin list.

Well, if its the same police looking for TJ as the ones looking for Natalee, I think TJ has a good chance.

You make a good point Big Pappy...everyone who is directly involved in Natalee's dissapearance was able/still is able to walk free, while another investigative approach to this case is being denied by the obviously incomopetent (to some extent, or atleast compared to our superious U.S. approaches)Aruban authorities!

ANYONE WHO CAN NOT SEE HOW CORRUPT THIS INVESTIGATION HAS GONE SO FAR BY THE ARUBAN GOVERNMENT IS ***INSANE***
Another Point: Look at the case of the missing groom (George Smith) from the Royal Carribean cruise ship...as soon as it was reported to investigators in Turkey, they handed it over to the FBI!!! Why is the Aruban Government so hesitant to accept aid from an agency that can OBVIOUSLY offer more than what has been "given" thus far...

people...stop looking for things and "STAY FOCUSED." if the holloway/twitty family hired this man; they did it for a reason! why does EVERYTHING have to be turned into a negative thing? the damn media messes so much up and most of you believe everything you read/see! be a little more open minded to things; stop conforming!!! if you can do a better job; get your ass to aruba and do it! geeeeezzzz!!

Ms. Jimi, I'm not saying I agree with TJ, his tactics, who is he or what he does, but this is a disturbing development to me, just speaks to the serious screw up this whole thing is. I'm not a TJ lover, just think the whole thing is an example of how ass backwards this all is.

It's ok CINDI, I'll be at confession with you in PA as well :)

does anyone think that joran should be "afraid" if he walks??

It's ok CINDI, I'll be at confession with you in PA as well :)

Posted by: Big Pappy | August 3, 2005 10:54 PM

Thanks Pappy, at least we know our sins lol.
Thanks by the way for your web site.

thats pretty good Mother of 2

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