Fox host Greta Van Sustern appeared in an update on Bill O'Reilly tonight and referenced two witnesses who claim the land fill witness is credible. However, she did clearly hedge her bet by saying she hadn't spoken to the witness herself.
She then went on to reference quotes from Natalee's Father, Dave Holloway as regards conditions at the land fill where the search is being conducted - which were reported as extreme, much like any land fill.
In a post here, I pointed out that according to an NBC report, Dave Holloway has spoken to the witness in question and found his account questionable.
The Alabama teen's father said he spoke with the witness and isn't sure the story is believable
Given Fox's ability to research, and Greta's ability to ask Dave Holloway a simple question in this regard, one might wonder if she is reporting things as they are, or as internal Fox ratings watchers want them to appear.


Good one Dennis. That is, or was, the prosecutor though, and not the lead investigator. He apparently retired. My point was that the Furman interview was purposely spun. Too bad (for us, not neccessarily the investigation) everyone on the investigative/prosecutorial side is so tight lipped. All we get is spin from the other side.
Posted by: mick | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 10:59 PM
I thought the Alabama interview/coverage was among the best journalism work I've seen on this case. And among Greta's best.
Posted by: What'sthis | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 10:59 PM
I would't leave that island until I'd searched every inch of that landfill. What devoted parent would? What sane commentator would expect or encourage any less?
This Monday morning quarterbacking is stale. If you're so ticked off b/c Red went to Aruba, blah, blah, blah, then perhaps you should focus on a different story because you're comments now are at the same level of thouht and analysis of some of the trolls who show up here. What a shame.
I'll catch the rest of you who still support NH, her family, Fox keeping the heat on, etc. at Scared Monkeys.
Posted by: What'sthis | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:03 PM
No I do not think Greta is selling out.... Are you? Your postings the last few days seem to be along the lines of stirring the waters to generate comments and more hits to this site. That would be expected...since you & Fox news both want to be "viewed"...and that's why "we" (the readers/viewers) tune in or log on...checking for "news" aka the latest gossip.
Greta has always annoyed me because she is so fair...sometimes I'd like her to voice an opinion that doesn't cover both sides.
Posted by: Just a Reader | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:04 PM
i think greta has a lot of class
as for fox i wouldn't put it past them
to hire oj simpson
play a little golf
show us the nightlife
show us how product flows from south america to miami
help with the search if he has time i hear he's dedicated that way
maybe an evening with karla homolka at carlos & charlies
Posted by: chip | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:10 PM
I like Gretta and I love listening to her talk with Tito and I also like Jossy ...sooooo :P to those of you that don't.
Posted by: bey | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:16 PM
This witness who claims to have seen a woman's body being baried at the dump is not credible. Like the duct tape it's another wild goose chase.
He claims he was close enough to see breasts, blonde hair, and even read the tags on the truck. By the way the police checked out the truck by the liscence plate he gave them and established it was no where the dump.
Now just think about it if he was close enough to see them, wouldn't they be able to see him? I know whenever I dump a body at the landfill I always look around carefull to see if anyone is watching, I just wouldn't want a witness to ruin such a private moment!
Another thing, why does it take nine weeks for this guy to go to the media? Sure he told the police, but with an army of international news media running around Aruba he surely would have told his story before now.
If he actually witnessed this he would have been on Greta's show the next night getting his fifteen minutes of fame!
Posted by: texas joe | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:16 PM
How can anyone crack on Gretta or Titto or Jossy? They are keeping us informed, educated and bringing Aruba into our homes. How can anyone find anything wrong with them? I just don't get it. It's not like they're all a bunch of idiots that don't know how to do their job. Anyone that says they are can't be playing with a full deck in my opinion. All three of them are doing a wonderful job in keeping us informed.
Posted by: bey | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:27 PM
@ Bey :
Again... Totally agree with u....alot of people discredit Tito , But if you take the time to realize , Tito is (I Think) the most "on the books" reporter on the island!!
-Really gotta GN! this time!! -Jeff
Posted by: ////CroSSBronXXPreSS//// | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:44 PM
How can any of you say Gretta is fair and balanced, if she was fair and balanced then she would spend the same and EQUAL amount of time wit the accused. This is NOT a judgement but a FACT.
Gretta is so obvoucly wrapped up in Beth Twity, and some of us doubt her motives and her inclination for her daughter.
And before you go FLAMING me, just remember that I am in a group of many. lots and lots of us think Beth/Jug Twity has "other" agnedas here, and have forgotten about what the focus should be.
It's all about Ratings, I can name many many instances where Fox, et;al lead-in with a story that KNEW was False or sensationalized. As an example of the "EquuSearch team trys to get PVD Sloot to except a search of his property"---------"Why would PVD Sloot not except a search has he something to hide?" this is basicly what the lead-in story said last night. from my perspective that "makes" you think the property has NOT beeen searched, when in-fact the VD Sloot perperty has been searched numerous times, even by the FBI. Not One time in that story on Fox did they mention the VD Sloot property ever being searched before the request by EquuSearch. That is my friends is Scurolous Reporting. And they call a show on fox the No-Spin-Zone. You want to talk spin, just watch FOX. They ahd better watch out, conservatives like me will eventually come to ouor senses and recognize when we are being mislead.
fox shame on you for using this case for ratings. And gretta while she might be compassionate, just remember this is NOT the Compassionate hour on TV but Fox News is a NEWS program, we expect Professional reporting not touchy feely non-sense. We can get that on the other networks.
GWD
Posted by: birmingham dog | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:47 PM
Hmmm...how do we know if Greta has tried unsuccessfully to further interview Paul and Anita? Answer: We don't. Also, traditionally speaking, most reporters don't give equal time to the suspects, on any station. She, unlike anyone else in this case, did interview all sides of the equation.
Slow news week, huh?
Posted by: AnnaMaria | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:56 PM
my heart breaks for dave holloway. i just think of my own sweet dad, what would he do? i cannot get over what this man must be feeling.
hey here is a solution re: fox which i do not dislike. change the channel. not all other channels are covering this and if enough people stop watching then their ratings will dip and they will have to stop.
AGAIN I AM NOT AGAINST FOX BUT ENOUGH PEOPLE HERE ARE THUS MY SUGGESTION. i for one will not be changing the channel, but then again i have to compete with disney channel, etc in order to even get to the new : )
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:59 PM
hey Bdog?
You never did answer my question from before about what has your jockstrap in a wad about the Twitty's? Do you really think Beth doesn't care about Natalee and is just in this for herself?
Just interested as to your thought process.
Posted by: AUgirl | Tuesday, August 02, 2005 at 11:59 PM
BDog
you know more than i, living there.
i lived within a 1/2 mile radiu of john and revea walsh and my next door neighbor's child was in adam's class. believe you me there were things in that community---even in the paper that were well known about them in the early 80's that i have no need to rehash.
look to the future, as in today, mr walsh has done a 180 and helped a lot of people accept he "still doesn't know who took adam" (in other words there i know but if i tell you it takes away from some of my mystique). that is all i will say.
give beth holloway twitty a chance to turn her loss into something to help others. you may change your view as time goes on.
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:04 AM
Her actins should speak for itself, compare Dave Holloway to Beth Twity. Dave is out searching the dump the eastern shore, the water, the land the everywhere, while Beth is on TV. And I might add her TV presence is NOT helping Win the Islanders to her cause. It is not 1 singge issue but many, many. I am privy to lots of info about the 2 different families, I do not like her style. Dont say you're a Christian and then go out and prove you are not.
Dave Holloway on the other hand is a rock, and is a class act. He has not once made a glaring error. I respect Dave Holloway, Beth Twity I do not. Makes one wonder about "other things", but that's none of my business.
Beth Twity this is about Natalee not Beth Twity. Children are Not possessions.
GWD
Posted by: birmingham dog | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:07 AM
AU girl
we both know that no one would sacrifice their beautiful child that they spent 18 years raising for 15 minutes of fame. maybe in jihad cultures or something, but not these people
chin up!
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:07 AM
bd
while dave is the lower key of the two
neither would have wanted to end up this way
can we agree on that?
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:09 AM
MJHendrix, I think you are mistaken...John Walsh is VERY convinced to WHO Killed his son. This man died in prison, I would think since you are SO CLOSE then you would KNOW this.
GWD
Posted by: birmingham dog | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:10 AM
The jury is still out on GVS but that raving maniac, Nancy Grace, has made a fool of herself from the get-go. Do some homework friend.
No shame amongst these characters.
Bigfish
Posted by: Bigfish | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:11 AM
wrong dog wrong
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:12 AM
Bdog, I for one completely understand Beth's actions, maybe because I am a mom and am I correct in thinking you are a dad? I don't understand what has been so wrong in her actions, she may have made some mistakes, but she has had much more exposure than Dave overall, so there has been more to take pot shots at about her. I too am a Birmingham resident, and I know about the families as well. You doubt Beth's Christianity? Or think she thinks of Natalee as a possession? I think you seem to be making some massive jumps in your logic. I'm willing to listen, but you don't seem very believable thus far.
Are you a divorced father? Hate Brookies? What's the deal..? Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but you seem very venomous and I can't understand why.
Posted by: AUgirl | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:14 AM
and besides i was not attacking you re read
the guy who was going to die in prison took the rap b/c he was about to die and there was nothing that could be done to him
there was zero way he could have been in south florida at the time, however another serial killer, one that only left heads behing (an ate the bodies) was living 15 minutes away.
any guesses? I will give you a hint, he was murdered in a wisconsin prison
***this is a matter of public record by the way
have a good evening and before you lash out make sure you know who is against you (I am not)
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:16 AM
big fish
who is GVS? now i am confused!! : )
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:18 AM
Bdog,
I'm also not sure why you think Beth hasn't done any searching herself? I believe she has...I understand Dave has done more that we have seen though. I must say, I don't like that Dave, Natalee's sweet aunt, or any other family members are on that landfill. Can you imagine the grief and upset they would have in finding her out there...? In a garbage bag?...OMG, how horrendous that would be.
Posted by: AUgirl | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:19 AM
AU
he is lashing out at me too and i have never been to alabama in my life.
don't feel so bad.
i think he is just mad right now
this case has made a lot of people mad
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:19 AM
You except my logic or disagree or you can sling the muck, call others names. As I see it is a frequent few n here that are steadfast in their beliefs and will not opne their minds. no need for me to elaborate further, because it would be a total waste of my time as well as yours.
And john walsh DOES Know WHO killed his son, you better get your facts straight, call him up tonight, I'm sure he will tell you the mans name.
You see, LOTS of you catagorize people on this site as either pro Natalee or Pro Jorna, with me as well as lots of us, we are NOt pro anybody but we Are Pro TRUTH.
So dont throw me in any category, except the Anti-Lynch Mob crowd(for it is a crowd, and the SOONER some of you realize that there are 1,000's, 1,000,000's that think like me then the sooner you will be able to open your mind to ALTERNATIVE scenarios).
nighty night
GWD
Posted by: birmingham dog | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:20 AM
big fish
who is GVS? now i am confused!! : )
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | August 3, 2005 12:18 AM
DUUUUHHH on me
i was thinking vandersloot
sorry big fish
i shoulda had a v-8
the place is on fire tonight should take this as a sign to fly the coup!!
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:22 AM
Seems to me that if I were going to dump a body from a white truck, I'd change the liscense plates first! Then I'd change them back afterward. And the body was supposed to be in a bag (if this did happen) so nobody was supposed to know it was a body. Likely the dump is only open during daytime hours, so you'd have to go when it was open- sure, people will be there. So you use a bag.
Posted by: kescah | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:22 AM
If FOX really cares so much ..why dont they send some of these "hot shot" PI's on their show to Aruba to solve the crime?...
Posted by: Nuke Aruba | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:24 AM
ahh, MJHendrix, would you PLEASE show me where I lashed out? You had better check your friend AU Girl, calling me a hater, venomous.
As I understand YOU MJHendrix are a TROLL, you start TROUBLE and then Bug out....start looking in the mirror, oh you better not, wouldnt want any cuts or broken glass.
MJHendrix your TROLL-Ness Precedes yourself..
GWD
Posted by: birmingham dog | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:24 AM
john walsh cannot come out and say anything about jefreey dahmer because by law he was never convicted in court.
i have spoken to him about it you angry old man.
what are you going to say next you know him too?
my A$$ you do.
there is a thing called laws. dahmer was never convicted of kidnapping and murdering adam. but the prosecuters in the state of florida wanted him badly.
THAT IS WHY HIS ATTORNEY GERALD BOYLE FORCED HIM TO ADMIT TO ALL THE MURDERS IN WISCONSIN (A NO DEATH PENALTY STATE)
SEEMS TO ME YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO CALL HIM OLD MAN!!
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:26 AM
Thanks MrsJimi,
I am just so sad about the whole thing. I can empathize so much with their pain...I look at Beth's face and just see this person dying, begging for someone to find her precious girl and relieve some of this agony for her. I have 3 little girls...so this is so close to my heart. When I read about her sleeping in Natalee's shirt the first few nights at the HI and that she hadn't turned the light off that had been on in that room since Natalee disappeared...Oh wow..that absolutely broke my heart. No way to grasp that kind of suffering unless you've been there. That's what kills me about these judgemental fools that just want to pick Beth apart since they like Dave. I like DAve too!
Why do they have to be so cruel about Beth. I'm sure she has faults...but just because Bdog thinks Dave is a 'class act' he has to downgrade the Twitty's?? They are suffering people...leave them the heck alone!
Thanks for listening MrsJimi.
Posted by: AUgirl | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:26 AM
I'm curious to see what the behavior specialists find out. Because, I'm certain they used the voice monitor to determine what answers were lies and truth. If that thing really works then that might tell us something about Joran.
Posted by: bey
===================================
this voice monitor has been determined to be very unreliable, according to some posters, who may or may not know what they are talking about.
Posted by: shonane | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:26 AM
[quote]big fish
who is GVS? now i am confused!! : )
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | August 3, 2005 12:18 AM
DUUUUHHH on me
i was thinking vandersloot
sorry big fish
i shoulda had a v-8
the place is on fire tonight should take this as a sign to fly the coup!![unquote]
Don't feel bad. The Dutch people in Aruba were also confused when a reporter with a Dutch name couldn't speak the language.
Bigfish
Posted by: Bigfish | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:30 AM
AUgirl
i have 3 little ones too.
i think this is just a drunken old man, a know it all.
my heart goes out to both of these parents. such a horrible loss, such a beautiful gal. did you see dan's past post with the pic of natalee in the car? i thought my eyes were playiing tricks on me.
funny i am far away from you and this guy is close to you and i have more empathy that he.
but he is probably like that with everyone, so remember that. active drucks don't think much of themselves let alone others
chin up AU girl
God Bless Dan and Beth and of course Nat
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:31 AM
Bdog,
I asked you some legitimate questions..and yes I said you seemed venomous. You do. But, I have tried to be civil with you, but you will not answer me directly at all. Is it because I am from Bham too, and might know something? Did I hit too close to home or something about you (I was truly trying to figure you out, not definitely categorize you) If you have all this great alternative knowledge, share it. Instead, you run...and say Nighty night. I said I'd listen to you, but you haven't come with a thing other than you didn't see Beth doing enough physical searches. Anything else that you know?
Posted by: AUgirl | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:32 AM
big fish
thanks for the laugh!!!
: )
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:33 AM
AU Girl
he won't even remember in the morning
he will be too hungover!!
you are too good for this!!
don't do it AU girl!!
just say no!!
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:35 AM
Mrs Jimi,
I guess you are right, I certainly can't figure him out completely from what he's willing to say on here.
Thanks again for listening..I'm off to bed, but will check what's going on in the morning.
Prayers for all the family of Natalee. Every one.
Posted by: AUgirl | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:36 AM
Jan van der Straaten said he knows what happened.
Posted by: GrannyToad | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:39 AM
big fish
who is GVS? now i am confused!! :
=========================================
That's Greta on FOX.
Posted by: shonane | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:39 AM
MrsJimi,
you are cracking me up!
I've given up for now...but I WILL BE BACK..LOL!
See you tomorrow.
AUgirl
Posted by: AUgirl | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:39 AM
TROLL ALert---Rheil World Couonter View
hey MJHendrix,
WHY do you have 2 USER Names ????
MJHendrix and AU Girl, do you usually Talk to yourself? You know the REAl problem is when you answer yourself. I have heard lots of stuff from other posters about you.
Your Troll-Ness...go ahead and report away, like you challenged calista earlier-to report her to dan...hahahahahahahah...U R a JOKE...using 2 user names...
This forum is for discussion and I want to applogise to the others for this post, but I do want you all to know what/who you are dealing with.. this Hendrix/Au Girl Woman..
GWD
Posted by: birmingham dog | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:41 AM
It is really counter-productive to slander Beth or Dave. Who is to say what you might do as a parent. I would be unglued, unbalanced and ballistic knowing if my beautiful daughter was missing. They are both a class act and have different roles in the investigation. We might take a moment to praise their efforts, instead of denegrating their actions. We all make mistakes. I have total RESPECT for both Beth and Dave. It is a pity that Natalee has not been found. Name calling has never helped anyone. Give it a rest folks and look for the positive. I can't imagine the anguish, frustration, hopes up and down, that are dashed must be doing to them. May a kind and loving Heavenly Father comfort them during this time. I will be saddened should they have to just let it go, just as John Walsh and his wife have had to do with no body of the son Adam. Kindness should be extolled to them both.
Canada Goose
Posted by: Canada Goose | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:43 AM
There has been a lot of discussion regarding the voice analysis device.
I have no familiarity at all with this field but I would assume that this an invention of the US and may not be applicapble to languages other than English.
It may also not be effective on individuals with a heavy accent.
Sounds like another smoke and mirrors bluff.
Bigfish
Posted by: Bigfish | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:43 AM
It's tough with girls that young, they usually don't go to police anyway, and if we're talking about tourists in a foreign country...it is even less likely, it is doubtful he would be bragging at school about drugging ARUBAN girls, so it would have to be tourists....just goes to show what they really think of Americans down there.
Hopefully, if this is true, that some girl or girls somewhere has paid attention to this case and will or even has come forward.
Posted by: LetsHelp | August 2, 2005 09:33 PM
I still wonder if that's any part of the reason they wanted that DNA test thrown out.
Posted by: GrannyToad | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:44 AM
You are a complete idiot Bdog. Certifiable...Just what made you come to this drunken conclusion? That we both have 3 children?? Why don't you run it by Dan, just for fun to see if he agrees with your assertion. I"m sure he can track us in some weird way. I just came to this place in the last 2 weeks...and yes buddy boy, I am from the 'ham. I'll be glad to answer any questions you have on that point. I don't think MrsJimi is from anywhere near here, but I must admit, I don't know where she is from.
Posted by: AUgirl | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:45 AM
SHONANE
yes it finally hit me
**doink**
all this vandersloot talk here over and over i was in another mode!!
thanks though!!
sheesh when will dan get his blog back!!
good nite and thanks again!!
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:45 AM
I watch FOX all the time, and have for many years. But I am not so foolish as to not see that the name of the game is ratings. And as for Greta, Bill, and all the rest, who signs their paycheck? Duh...
Nope, this is not a friendly blog tonight. Must have been more than one earthquake...lot of critters crawling out from under rocks.
Posted by: sleuth | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:46 AM
AU girl
Dog thinks we are the same person?
Dan you catch that? pretty funny.
i must have missed that. i will have to go look for it.
you just get some sleep, take care of your babies and i will take care of mine (yes, actually different)
by the way i am on the west coast!!
have a good SOBER evening AU girl
Posted by: MrsJimiHendrix | Wednesday, August 03, 2005 at 12:48 AM