Interesting News From Aruba - Mebbe

The word on the street is that Beth Twitty confronted Deepak Kalpoe today, possibly in the Internet cafe. The info is sketchy, but has come from two very different sources - one anon, one known and reliable.

There's an additional side line claiming that Greta Van Sustern may have also done the same at some point. That report less clear.

Also, one unqualified source in Aruba is claiming he will file a restraining order tomorrow at 9AM. That piece is completely unconfirmed ... and I'll be watching to see how all of the above plays out, if it does ... same as you. Geesh!

Additionally, there is serious talk behind the scenes that a former girlfriend of Joran Van der Sloot named Melody will do a call in interview near the end of the show on Rita Cosby tonight, via MSNBC - 9PM.

Two sources on that, also - one says 100% - other less certain.

Developing ...

Comments

[andy]

Here's an email I got from someone in Aruba very early on in the investigation:

> Re: Missing Girl
> Author: Ch....
> Date: 06-02-05 09:01
>
> There are issues in this case that can go beyond the
obvious in
> their implications.
>
> It will take time for all the information regarding this
lovely
> child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it
will be
> expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my
prayers are
> with you.
>
> I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba
> (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have
kept in
> touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for
all those
> involved.
>
> I wish all of us strength
>
> ch...

[amber]

This amber is not the AMBER.

Posted by: RJ | August 8, 2005 10:45 PM

umm yeah it is, why because i turned off my caps

[RJ]

Andy
You and I seem to have the same views on this case. I don't think we will ever be privy to the reality of this situation.

[RJ]

This amber is not the AMBER.

Posted by: RJ | August 8, 2005 10:45 PM

umm yeah it is, why because i turned off my caps

Posted by: amber | August 8, 2005 11:28 PM

Took you long enough to figure that out. Hey guys! Maybe it is her.

[frenchymom]

good points Scubajab...

[RJ]

Hey Andy I have an idea who that was from were you trying to give a clue? If not beware many on here are smarter than you think.

[andy]

The gov't is involved and everything has been tainted and twisted - if no one can figure that out then you are dreaming. Beth Twitty Holloway has been shamed by the Aruban LE and Justice System. They are trying to figure out how to get out of this hornets nest they created. Natalee's remains will never be found unless someone hires a Columbian truth seeker.

[Dan]

I think he sends almost the same email to everyone, Andy ... sometimes he's even more mysterious sounding.

[scubajap]

Andy, are you saying Charles Croes sent you that e-mail? and why should he send it to you, of all people, do you have some kind of special connection? Truth please, I know Charles well and I will ask him about it.

[amber]

Posted by: amber | August 8, 2005 11:28 PM

Took you long enough to figure that out. Hey guys! Maybe it is her

umm no i came back and read that thanks buddy
anyways get a life

[RJ]

Me! you are the one who never has anything of substance to say EVER!!!! I have a life sweetie, and it does not involve friends like Deepak Kalpoe.

[westcoast]

westcoast - we talking about murder, you seem to be taking this with a grain of salt, maybe one day you'll loose a loved one to the same fate; and have people like you nip at your family.

Posted by: andy | August 8, 2005 10:56 PM

Yes, your damn right we are talking about a murder here! Why did it have to happen? This is my question and has been from the start.

Ok..I'll be honest, what really upsets me about this case, along with the niaveness of the parents that allowed Natalee to take this trip is this..Americans are trying to boycott Aruba. This has my feathers ruffled because I am a sensible person and realize that there is no reason to boycott this "happy island" Yes, it is a happy island and even though I haven't been there I'm smart enough to know as a traveller that it is a safe island. I just have to do the math and judge for myself, as any intelligent human would be able to do.

So you have your answer.

And by the way, I'm sick and tired of people saying..."what if this happened to you?"

Let's all use our logic in this situation and learn from it.

[Constance]

does anyone know what Tim Miller's favorite whisky or bourbon is, I wanna send him a case or two intead of donating cash, I suspect he'll appreciate this gift much more.

[Mi Dushi Aruba]

OMG another night of BHT's antics. Desperation pouring through her pores. She's sweating as much as Deepak. I have lost any sympathy/empathy with Mrs.T. Her latest antic in AUA has gone too far & she feels good about it as it was stated by Mr. T. Beth go home. If she would have pulled that in USA, she may not have gotten off so lucky. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. Ohhh...that's right. Foxnews. Nancy Grace. BHT deliberately goes into the place of employment of someone of high profile in her daughter's disappearance. Why? Confrontation. That is all it was about. Possibly even entrapment. The cameras are rolling, security is outside, she was probably wired for sound as well. Too much drama. On a day of grieving in the media world for a journalist who delivered "news" not scintillating garbage. We as interested members of TVland witnessed a vigilante approach to entrapment. Let me tell you, BHT should be glad that I am not the mother of the Kalpoe boys. Just as Natalie has a mother so does Deepak & I would be on my own warpath looking for answers from Mrs T. I would be forced to seek some sort of legal remedy to restrain her & her supporters from approaching my boys. She was wrong in her actions today. If she was truly there to get the "truth" then she would have done so in the presence of legal representation. Hers & Kalpoe's. She has no right to go after anyone involved in the investigation no matter of her position but isn't that how all this started. It's kinda hard to feel compelled to talk when you are being verbal assaulted. I would tell her anything either. Why? So, she have me place in jail. Come on. Logic here now. No one would want commit to speaking to her without legal representation. She is further alienating the Aruban people & those Americans intelligent enough to think for themselves. This is nuts. Neither Foxs nor Msnbc (whatever) is courageous enough to question the rightfulness of BHT's latest actions. It's just more sensationalism. I can only imagine where the declarations came from. Corrupt calling the kettle black. I wonder how many Americans that participate on this blog have ever travelled to AUA to understand what what they are even saying?

Prompted after reading:

I am rapidly losing sympathy for Beth Twitty.

She cannot do as she pleases, sorry. Many of us have been, or have family who are victims of crimes. We are not allowed to indulge in vigilante justice. She has long since worn out her welcome in Aruba and is making us as americans the unwilling participants in a struggle that will have long reaching effects.

GO HOME BETH.

[Crayola]

Is Deepak a colored or an indian?

[andy]

Hi RJ - I am sure many people on here are smart. No, I'm not trying to give a clue, I'm just copying part of an email I received from a person in Aruba. This information was published in the papers in a different type of format. My intent was to shut-up a lot of people whom are ridiculing the Holloways by blaming them. The person who wrote the email to me knows more than is revealed - it's obvious.

[scubajap]

Beth's confronting Deepak is not so strange, she has been confrontational from the very first night, finding Joran's home, and when she saw him the next day, she confronted him, so it is not surprising what she did. If I thought someone was responsible for my child's disappearance, I would likely do the same, you may have noticed, I am not a person to walk away from an issue.
I just think she should have told the media to turn off the cameras, or if she knew where he worked, gone there without telling anyone. I haven't seen the film, but I think if she did it gently, letting her pain show, rather than in anger, she might accomplish more. What would Deepak ever say with the cameras right there?
What could she possibly have thought she would accomplish by doing it that way? If they have done what she suspects, then she is not going to work on their guilt by threats, but more by letting them see the damage they have done.
By the way, yes, you can get a restraining order in Aruba.

[RJ]

Mi Dushi Aruba
Mighty testy aren't we. You sound as if you are Deepaks lawyer.

[nursemind]

Beth Twitty obviously never learned the old adage "you can get more flies with honey than you can with vinegar". She has now angered the whole island to the point where there could be someone with knowledge that won't come forward because they are sick of her attitude towards their island, their people and their LE. Now don't flame me.....I know all about how she is missing a daughter and the LE seems to work slowly BUT is it helping for her to be such a wild lady? If I were Depak I wouldn't talk to her either....I'd be too afraid. And I don't think Joran trying to get in a girls pants makes him a predator.....it makes him a normal 17 year old.

[RJ]

Was not judging only looking out for ya. Hi RJ - I am sure many people on here are smart. No, I'm not trying to give a clue, I'm just copying part of an email I received from a person in Aruba. This information was published in the papers in a different type of format. My intent was to shut-up a lot of people whom are ridiculing the Holloways by blaming them. The person who wrote the email to me knows more than is revealed - it's obvious.

Posted by: andy | August 8, 2005 11:42 PM

[andy]

LOL Dan

[NC greenbean]

Well, it's been fun, folks. I now can understand why so many of the good, old posters have left to go to "Happy Hour". I wondered where they all went....... God bless Natalee, her family, and all of those who believe in and support her. G'Night. NC greenbean

[scubajap]

Since this is not too busy it is a good time to clear things up about the so called 15 lawyers
Spoke to Joran’s lawyers today.
Joran’s lawyers are the firm of Antonio Carlos and his two associates. Joran’s 3 lawyers.
Richi Kock has gone on vacation for 2 weeks, but they always want to be available to witness any interrogation of Joran, and the police will come for him at anytime, without warning to interrogate him, so they always have a lawyer “on call.” This may be their biggest, but not their only case, and so while Richi is on vacation Antonio Carlos requested assistance from Ari Swan (not sure of spelling) PVDS law firm to have a lawyer available if Joran is taken for questioning and Antonio or his other partner are tied up and cannot witness. There is no set lawyer, whoever is not busy at the moment. So if you want to interpret that he has all the lawyers of the other firm working for him now, I suppose you could add the numbers together and come up with 9 or 15, but he actually only has three lawyers, one on vacation and someone that will stand in to witness an interrogation, if need be.

Please forgive the double post, I forgot to copy new text and so pasted old text. Apologies to all

[Mi Dushi Aruba]

No RJ I am not testy nor Deepak's lawyer. However, I am someone's mother I my instincts would be to push back as well.

[andy]

Thx RJ - I'm well aware there are a few law enforcement types on here and I try to choose my words accordingly so not to cross the line.

Even when Dan passes a tin cup around asking for donations to his hobbies.

Please judge me if I'm in wrong, I've eaten humble pie and I'll gladly learn and grow from it.

[westcoast]

I just think she should have told the media to turn off the cameras, or if she knew where he worked, gone there without telling anyone. I haven't seen the film, but I think if she did it gently, letting her pain show, rather than in anger, she might accomplish more. What would Deepak ever say with the cameras right there?
What could she possibly have thought she would accomplish by doing it that way? If they have done what she suspects, then she is not going to work on their guilt by threats, but more by letting them see the damage they have done.
By the way, yes, you can get a restraining order in Aruba.

Posted by: scubajap | August 8, 2005 11:26 PM

This is the behaviour that is and will piss off the Arubans, as well as the world. This vigilante behaviour by Beth isn't going to get her anywhere, whatsoever, if anything, it is going to show the world(the world in the press that she has persued)that she is NUTS! She is shooting herself in the foot. She's acting like her own worst enemy at this point.

If she is for real, in her threats that all will come out, she had better do it quickly, imo, because she is going downhill in her efforts to kill Aruba. She is threatening not only Aruba, but the world in her daily, hourly threats and it is becoming most atrocious shitty behaviour on her part.

I go back to her initial callout to her visit at the VDS home...yelling out..."I see YOU, come out, come out wherever you are type of bs with greta behind her and her media crew" And then backed up by the TIM MILLER extravaganza same!

[anonymous]

westcoast are you going to tell me that you wouldn't go through hell and high waters to find your child, because if you call Beth Twitty's antics vigilante, how would you act in a situation like this, only wondering.

[leeza]

Constance, that's mean. Really, really funny, but mean.

[Roy]

I hope that Beth "slapped the living muss" out of the little piece of s*&t", as we say here in Alabama.

Posted by: Bama Beer Drinker | August 8, 2005 09:09 PM

Just keep on drinking your beer then your stupidity will not bother you.

[westcoast]

westcoast are you going to tell me that you wouldn't go through hell and high waters to find your child, because if you call Beth Twitty's antics vigilante, how would you act in a situation like this, only wondering.

Posted by: anonymous | August 8, 2005 11:59 PM

I'll tell you one thing, I wouldn't jeopardize the case to go so far as bringing media with me to PVS house. I would have attacked it differantly. I would have been more secretive with my intentions of what I may know or feel. I would have tried, first of all talking to the police, giving them my knowledge, then going onto the prosecutor and earning my respect first and foremost. I would have initially looked at it this way...I'm in a foreign govt, i have to allow this govt to help me. I need these people to find out what happened to my daughter.

Yes, I would have put more trust into the locals on this.

[leeza]

Andy-since your intent was to "shut up" people, why didn't you answer scubajap's question directly to you about the source of that e-mail. She actually knows the person who sent it, so she can verify whatever you say if it was sent directly to you.

[scubajap]

I know Beth is a speech therapist, I believe-am I correct? Is she a teacher, does she teach classes, because the way she handles things reminds me of a teacher of small children mentality "Now Class-tell me who took the package of cookies off my desk or you will ALL have to stay after school, until the guilty one confesses!" Please don't think I'm dissing her, but does she teach classes?

[Kat_Gram]

I like Jossy. He is the only one trying to help the h/t's. And I think he has friends in low places. When Deepak and Satish were released, they interviewed one of their lawyers. The fishermen at Fisherman's Huts did not see Joran or Natalee, what they did see was a " White Jeep like vehicle " on the beach for 30 to 45 minutes
at around 2:30 to 3:00 I believe. One of the people who said he helped bury Natalee told this to someone and it has now come back to Jossy.

Deepak and Satish will be re arrested IF the gardener Jossy pushed forward will show up in person.

I don't believe or disbelieve this, but on a small island like this, someone saw something.

I find it difficult to believe that the three boys were driving around, disposed of a body
and no one saw a damn thing.

There seem to be alot of people in Aruba who do not want the spotlite on them. Drugs, citizenship status, outstanding warrants, etc.

[scubajap]

Leeza, did you notice Dan said he got one, too and a lot of other people? I suspect that Charles Croes did not send that e-mail. He may have done some interviews, but he has his own troubles right now, and he is staying very tightlipped. I have a feeling it is just someone messing around, it doesn't sound like him.

[PRNDL23]

For once, I totally agree with Beth's actions. I only wish she had some brute force to support her when she confronted that little slimeball. He is obviously a spineless pervert. I still say that if someone, anyone, had just castrated only one of the boys, they would have talked. I don't care if it's illegal. Rape and murder are illegal too. Sometimes you just can't take the high road. It is a pointless and futile endeavor when dealing with criminals of this magnitude. I also think ALL of the parents of ALL of the boys should be incarcerated until this case is settled. They have obviously done a poor job of rearing their children, and should have their parental rights revoked. Kids learn what they live. What good and decent purpose will those three boys ever serve to anyone? Hang 'em high!!!!

P.S. If castration does not work, send Nancy Grace down there. She could annoy anyone into sheer madness.

[The RealPackerFan]

To those criticizing the cameras in the Deepak exchange (if one can call it that, that would take two), did any stop to think if the cameras covered it all, then there was no way he could later say she said or did something to him or in the cafe that she did not????

On the other hand, I saw no evidence that the entire thing was taped and just as with the VDSs, he could have requested it be shut off, when they requested that, the cameras were stopped. All I saw on all news stations was the same picture of Beth handing him something, that is hardly an entire taping of the thing.

There is also the possibility that some media person saw her and took the opportunity for the pic rather than it being any kind of set up. The same pic mentioned above had a door in the edge of the pic as if someone had opened it and stuck a camera through it.

Even if it was set up, the media is all this family has and its main hope for spreading outrage and hopefully putting pressure on for things to be done if need be.

As for Beth letting Natalee go to Aruba, I am a mother of two young adult girls and to those that criticize her, nothing you can say can be any worse than how she probably beats herself up over the fact she let her go (IF she let her go) and I hardly think a perhaps in hindsight parenting decision that she wishes she had not made makes her deserving of losing a daughter to rape and murder most likely. And for that matter, I have heard this plenty but never seen where it is proved that Beth told her she could go and that her father said no. And for that matter, Dave Holloway also could have sat down on his own w/Natalee and tried to convince her not to go and why and perhaps did and Natalee went against his advice despite he asked her not to, did you think of that? Many 18-year-olds are like that and they naively think they can handle themselves and in many types of situations they can.

People who judge Beth who are parents themselves are hardest for me to understand. It is difficult for me to believe, as a parent myself, that no matter HOW close an eye you keep on your children, no matter how you try to keep them home, etc. or out of harm's way, no matter how well you teach them, no matter how responsible they are, at the age especially of 18 and a graduate of high school, they are not always going to do as you say and they do think they are capable of handling adult situations and sometimes you give in with a LOT of cautions, etc. and urging to be careful and sometimes they assure you with every answer you could wish for, I will stay with friends, we will not go here, etc., etc., we have chaperones, etc., etc. If there is one person on here who has a child of this age or older who is perfect and you did the perfect job and never ever did your child put himself/herself in a situation that was not wise, you are either blind to your child or you have the only one on the face of this earth. I also find it hard to believe any adult on here has never ever did a stupid thing in their own life that looking back they say oh my, am I lucky nothing happened to me when I made that decision. The ones who are parents on here that say such things I guarantee you have children that are younger and they THINK they are doing it right, their child will never do anything not wise, etc. The ones of us w/older children, most I believe would tell them you will be saying otherwise when your child is that age, we all felt that way too, you think yours is different or you are doing it right and it will be different and they will be perfect.

And the other thing that bothers me about the Beth remarks is in almost every post like this it is about her letting her daughter go to Aruba to party with no remarks about a partying, predatory (oh yes, PR word of day), gambling, entirely unsupervised 17-YEAR-OLD Joran and his parents' ENTIRE LACK OF ANY PARENTING.

And for the record, this may be right or wrong, but many of us are of a generation and from states where we were allowed to drink at 18 (in bars) and partied ourselves or had beer at our graduation parties, etc. Anyone remember TJ Swan and Boone's Farm?

And I know myself from my girls graduating that BOTH out of the blue who earlier had shown no such attitudes acted as though they were now 18 and graduated and could do whatever they wanted. They also think they can handle themselves in situations. My 19-year-old about a year ago went to Panama City, FL on a trip w/a friend who is old enough to drink and I am pretty sure they drank SOME. She planned this trip and paid for it all w/o my permission. She also lived in her own apartment. What could I do? This passed but it is the immediate reaction after graduation and I happen to know almost all parents I know see the same thing. They do the exact same thing when they get a license and a car, they THINK they can do as they wish but at that age one still has clout with them (once you get that through to them) as they are a minor and no, they cannot do as they wish.

Natalee was not a minor, she was 18 and I would guess Beth warned her about everything she had heard, maybe even tried to talk her out of going but thought, she is an adult and I have to let her learn to handle herself and make her decisions, right or wrong! Geez. The girl was going off to college where mom could not watch her 24/7 and should we get into the college partying talk now, date rape drugs, etc.??? How about just plain old campus co-ed rape. Don't hear any of you saying she should not have been letting her go off to college on her own now do you??? Really, how different is that? Parties, sex, drugs, shots, how about hazing?

Just my opinions, I mean no offense, just debating. Sorry for the long post, most of what I was responding to has probably been responded to by now!

[westcoast]

There seem to be alot of people in Aruba who do not want the spotlite on them. Drugs, citizenship status, outstanding warrants, etc.

Posted by: Kat_Gram | August 9, 2005 12:12 AM

You know, this is just the comment that shows assuming comments and that i've seen in alot of these posts here...SO MUCH SPECULATION!

[leeza]

To The RealPackerFan - the problem I have with the Twitty show today is that she is interfering with an active criminal investigation. If you have no confidence in Aruban LE, remember that the FBI is also involved. No investigator from any country would have agreed to send an alleged victim in to have a show down with an alleged suspect, except of course in undercover investigation. What she did was purely for show because she had to know that Deepak had been advised not to speak about this case. That is his LEGAL and ETHICAL right. This is a circumstantial case, and he is under no obligation to participate in his own prosecution.

[scubajap]

A RealPacker Fan- I agree on many levels
I am the mother of a 21 year old daughter that just left last Thursday to spend a month traveling around Europe with a friend and her parents. She paid for everything with her own money. I have faith in her that after all that has happened she will be very smart and careful, as I hope will all youngsters that have hopefully learned something from all this.
Whether young people come to Aruba, Cancun or wherever, they should know now to watch out for each other and not travel alone.
We as parents want to protect our children, but so many times they take it as trying to confine them and react against it. They will have to create and learn from their own experiences, they are not interested in ours or our concern for them, they want to be free. Perhaps some good will come of this in that it will hit home the message it CAN and does happen, anywhere and they are not immune. It is a shame that the innocence and freedom we used to have has been taken away.

[nursemind]

Stop with the rape and murder talk....so far we have a missing person case. Beyond that it's speculation.

[andy]

leeze - subajap is right, pay no attention to it.

[andy]

nursemind - Did you read the newspapers about 8 weeks, Aruba Today and the report from Diaro that the Polis Chief stated something else happened? Did you hear about the confession back then? Now it's lost! Did you here the US space shuttle returns tomorrow? Where were you 9 weeks ago?

[leeza]

Andy - scubajap is always right. One day I will have to go to Aruba (at least I know I won't run into any Alabama rednecks there) and meet scubajap.

[scubajap]

It is late, and I have an early meeting tomorrow.
I must say the board has been very pleasant tonight, some differing opinions, but nothing nasty and no BS presented as fact, sorry, but that really gets my back up. A very nice group, it has been a pleasure interacting with you all tonight. Passe Bon Noche

[leeza]

andy-I'd be careful putting your faith in something you read in Diario. Besides, two weeks ago Susan Candioti from CNN said that her sources have never been able to verify those confessions ever existed.

[Just Somebody's Grandma]

RealPackerFan...I remember Boone's Farm and can remember drinking way too much of it and feeling it the next morning, and this was way before my 18th birthday. I have raised 3 children. All made it passed their teen years and each one acted somewhat the way you described most 18 year olds act when they graduate from High School. Luckily, we got through it, and now they are educated, responsible adults and parents and I am so proud of each one. But the stories I could tell you would either have you laughing or crying in disbelief!! Beth is upset, who wouldn't be? I would have probably have been kicked out of Aurba by now, having pitched the biggest"Hissy Fit" anyone had every witnessed. I would probably be medicated and on my way to the Loonie Bin by now if I had to walk in her shoes for just a little while. We really need to give the lady a break, her world will never be the same. And one more thing, if anything remotely like this happens in my family, I want her on my side. Call me old, stupid, whatever you want, but I'm just voicing my thoughts.

[The RealPackerFan]

well said scubajap and hope your daughter has a safe and wonderful trip.

leeza, i see your point and i do not know whether i think what she did was wise or not but i can certainly understand where it is coming from. here in the U.S. a victim is represented and kept informed as much as possible, etc., she is on her own from what I see in Aruba. before everyone disagrees with that, i am not saying the victim or family is represented perfectly here but we exist in our laws. i have been a victim of a physical violent crime so i do speak from experience. and i can tell you i actively participated and was a pain in the behind to our local D.A. and his office. i "investigated" on my own. i provided information to them. i hounded them with what i needed for my safety and my children's when it finally went into the final stages after two years and what i wanted to see happen to the perpetrator. i therefore disagree to a point that she cannot actively investigate, i sure the heck did. just as many families hire private investigators if law enforcement is getting nowhere. you may think she should not have did what she did but i figure i am not in her shoes and who knows, i think i would use the media if i had to to keep the interest in the case. but i see your view on it too.

w/regard to Deepak and his rights, I disagree to a point. don't know about the rights there, but she went into a public place and talked to him. we do not know if he asked her to leave, it is doubtful or she would not have been in there 90 minutes. he could have called law enforcement if he felt she had no right to be in there trying to talk to him. we don't know he did not ask for the cameras to be turned off and then they were, did anyone see any other snap of this encounter other than the same one over and over on all channels, i did not. and i am sorry but the talk about him and his rights just makes me think and what about hers? from what i understand there are no victim's rights in Aruba. is it true that all they can attend is the trial and then they get no chance to say how anything has affected them, make a statement to the judge with their wishes to be considered, etc.? that is what i have read in searches on Aruban law.

and to nursemind: i assume your remark about murder and rape was directed at me and it just being speculation. my remark about murder and rape was followed by "most likely" and i guess that makes it speculation. been on here since day one of this case almost and it is all people speculating from what i have seen. since there are few facts and I guess you would never speculate about anything then.........????????

Once again, just my opinions (and speculation i guess) and no offense intended.

[PRNDL23]

Well, if not rape and murder, then there is enough evidence RIGHT NOW under Aruban law to charge JVDS with kidnapping, which is also illegal.

And just exactly what investigation is Beth compromising? The one in which Joran has changed his story 10 times, and the filthy Kalpoes (who changed their stories a number of times as well) are free on the streets? Those boys are not cooperating, never have, and never will. Beth got as far today with her attempts as the Aruban police have in 71 days. Oh wait, that's 60 days..they went free for the first two weeks while they were blaming the security guards. Is that the "investigation" that is being compromised? LMAO!!!

[bamaguy11]

Birmingham Dog,

Accidental drowning.....LOL
Is that your theory? I guess that explains all the lies by Joran. Did he seek help? Where's Natalee's body? Where's her clothes?

"When the truth comes out, Beth lies, etc.." It's getting old. Most everyone realizes the behavior of college age students on trips. They party, drink, dance, do drugs, have sex....so what? Just because they don't come on tv and admit to as much, you take offense.

You have a problem with the MBHS students portrayal as "angels." Why?

Natalee did not deserve the fate she received.

You should check out http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/the_mountain_br.html

There was nothing racist about my Scrushy comment. Scrushy is white, jury is predominately black, end of story. If I feel the jury made a mistake its not due to their ethnic orientation.

BTW, why don't you live in Mt Brook?
Parents kick you out of the house.

[bamaguy11]

leeza,

where are you located?

btw, thanks for the redneck compliment. you are all class.