Fox O'Reilly Update

From OReilly tonight, according to Jossy Mansur:

Jossy Mansur claimed they are investigating two alleged participants in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. One is said to have been involved in the burial of the body and is said to be talking.

The other alleged witness is said to be the driver of the white truck which has been identified as having dumped Natalee Holloway's body at the landfill. Jossy claimed to know his nickname and is trying to identify him. Mansur claimed the lead on the possible driver seems more credible.

Credible seems to be a relative term these days ...

Comments

[birmingham dog]

Dan, are you keeping a Number of just "How many tips that Jossy has brought forth, and of those what number have been proven as false"??
I would be very interested in this figure. it must be approaching the number 10 mark, in all seriousness. Jossy mansour is a total Loon and the Larry Flint of Aruba....

GWD

[Susan P.]

Where is this news coming from Dan? Which TV show or web site? This guy is pulling people from a hat, its like a magic show with Jossy. YOu never know when he is going to "pop" a new witness in.

[RJ]

Stupid Cowboys with Arawak guides. Does this maybe refer to Jossy? Why would someone who claims to want to help this family mislead them so? Is he more credible than appears but being made to look like a BOOB? I just cannot figure him out.

[patrick]

I give the guy credit. At least he's trying. He also donated a backhoe to help dig in the landfill. Without Mansur and the Twitty Holloway family investigating and keeping the pressure on, this thing would have been covered up by the police and swept under the rug.

[RJ]

Yes, but the help at the landfill could well be a decoy. I am not saying this is what I believe, just keeping my mind opened. There are a lot of loose ends.

[Susan P.]

I think you're right about Jossy being a giant BOOB, at least his leads make him look like one right now. I'm waiting for him to prove me wrong

[birmingham dog]

People, this guy is the Media..he has lied so many times it is UNREAL...What about natalee being Burried at the beach? Where is she then? Jossy is a first rate liar, and is feeding the ratings and most proabaly getting paid by Fox.

jossy, jossy he's(MSM) our man; hes(MSM) the RATINGS Man !!!

This case was just a joke, now mere words can not explain what to call it now....

GWD

[Bigfish]

Dan, are you keeping a Number of just "How many tips that Jossy has brought forth, and of those what number have been proven as false"??
I would be very interested in this figure. it must be approaching the number 10 mark, in all seriousness. Jossy mansour is a total Loon and the Larry Flint of Aruba....

GWD

Posted by: birmingham dog | August 8, 2005 09:31 PM
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I am convinced that Jossey is none other than Bagdad Bob.

Bigfish

[birmingham dog]

BF,, thats so funny....think of one with Aruba in it...Joosy Mansour, he OUGHT to be ashamed of himself..how dare he..

GWD

[ROSE]

These leads will be "credible" in my eyes the day they stand in front of a judge in Aruba and give their sworn testamony.....and even then, I'm not sure I would believe it.

[IR Student]

I like Jossy .... he has had some stuff wrong but has broken some stuff ..... I can't blame him for the corrupt Aruban LE

Visit the Turks and Caicos !!!!

[RJ]

Hey IR funny you should say that considering they have the same shady stuff going on. On a Dutch Cruise Ship none the less.

[Coolbeans]

I dont think Nancy Grace believed his crap either. She had contempt in her voice. He tried to say his sources said he is talking (Joran) and she called him out.

It was about time. Then she told him to track down the gardner. Why so he can say Jossy put him up to it?

Enough with him. He is a rag reprter and is doing harm to this investigation and the Holloways.

Although I believe in free speach and written press, I choose not to believe him or what he states to be facts.

Coolbeans

[birmingham dog]

1st- Natalee was In Venezual sold for sex trade
2nd Natalee was in a White van that gretta chsed down...mistaken indenity
3rd there was Natalee burried at the beach---why didnt they find her there?
4th the POND
5th the landfill
6th Whats next...he is a total USER...how dare him..

GWD

[IR Student]

If Nancy Grace doesn't believe him ... I do

[(((AG)))]

The other alleged witness is said to be the driver of the white truck which has been identified as having dumped Natalee Holloway's body at the landfill. Jossy claimed to know his nickname and is trying to identify him. Mansur claimed the lead on the possible driver seems more credible.
*****
LOL - so even more people at the landfill!!!!

[TheAlamo]

Posted by: RJ
Yes, but the help at the landfill could well be a decoy. I am not saying this is what I believe, just keeping my mind opened. There are a lot of loose ends.

VERY possible.
It has been alluded that Josie has ties to the underworld. IF this is true then his job is obviously disinformation. Keep people thinking she is dead, and searching for a body, when she is somewhere in a brothel in South America.
This is just as possible as any other theory. The reason I lean this way is that I find it very hard to believe that two 17 year olds and a 21 year old could pull of a perfect crime. Even if Daddy VS is involved, they didn't have a whole lot of time to take care of the situation. Unless she went to the sharks, in which case, case closed.

[Mrs.Doobieakasleuth]

Credible seems to be a relative term these days ...

Posted by Dan in Natalee Holloway | Permalink

how about 'crudible'

[DennisAOK]

At least he is trying and has the interests of Natalee's family in mind, which is more than we can say for Aruban law enforcement.

[Bigfish]

I dont think Nancy Grace believed his crap either. She had contempt in her voice. He tried to say his sources said he is talking (Joran) and she called him out.

It was about time. Then she told him to track down the gardner. Why so he can say Jossy put him up to it?

Enough with him. He is a rag reprter and is doing harm to this investigation and the Holloways.

Although I believe in free speach and written press, I choose not to believe him or what he states to be facts.

Coolbeans

Posted by: Coolbeans | August 8, 2005 10:14 PM
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Coolbeans-
O'Reilly put him on the spot and Greta was asking Natalee's aunt why Jossey was being so "helpful".

Anyone here familiar with a possibility that Jug Twitty went to the same military school in Memphis as members of Jossey's family?

Bigfish

[RJ]

Have heard that believe it is true.

[JustMe]

Jossey is at best a nut case and incompetent. At worst he is a liar who is trying to sidetrack the investigation.

I don't believe a single thing that comes from his mouth. Until he makes a statement that turns out to be true my opinion of him will not change.

Before it closed Castle Heights Military Academy was in Lebanon, Tennessee. Not Memphis.

[(((AG)))]

Anyone here familiar with a possibility that Jug Twitty went to the same military school in Memphis as members of Jossey's family?

Bigfish

Jossy's sons went to the same school -- years after Jug was there.

[Bigfish]

Jossy's sons went to the same school -- years after Jug was there.

Posted by: (((AG))) | August 8, 2005 11:19 PM
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Thank you all for the info. I'm sure it's just an odd coincidence but out of curiosity, how old would that make Jossey's sons?

BF

[leeza]

Dan-So, one day after the well-researched story of Texas Equusearch came out, the group left Aruba. The reporter on Nancy Grace said that they ran out of money, then later said that they left because the locals refused to rent them equipment. (I guess not, if they had no money. Still, she had to work it like a big part of a conspriracy against them.) So, the reporter said the Monsurs are keeping up the search in the one area where the dogs got a "strong hit". I'm holding my breath on what they find.

[TexasGal]

I don't give a rat's patoot as to what Jossy's motivations or aspirations are...if his efforts somehow help Beth bring her Natalee home, then more power to him!

[andy]

I like Jossy, he's quite a nice fellow - if they solve this tradegy and help end the mystery for Holloways I come visit Aruba within one year and take Jossy to dinner.

[Kap]

First of all, Jossey does not have any ties to the "underworld." Give me a break. He's just a jolly old man who parents have a ton of money and is trying to help in anyway he can. The Aruban government won't even lend the Equusearch team the right equipment to clear the landfill. You think that's a coincidence along with the fact that other parts of the investigation have been grusomely mishandled or bungled? No way. This cover-up reaches all parts of the Aruban government: the prosecutor's office, the judges and most definitely the Aruban LE. I firmly believe they don't want Natalee's body found.

[POOPS]

Mansur is the only interesting link to this Holloway case that they have. Hype or not, this guy does come up with some good stuff. Tito, TJ Ward etc., same old crap. Beth and Jug sound like a broken record with a skip. Dave's a trooper. Fox's ratings are soaring and Mansur has become the focal point. Of course, I would like to see more of Arlene. Addictive, to say the least. This is a winner for Greta, the cute little faced bunny reporter. Where did all that surgery go?

[keylargogirl]

I think what Mansur is doing is great! At least he is trying to find Natalee, which is a helluva look more than I can say for the Keystone Cops, and that thing they call a government over there. People are quick to judge Mansur. Maybe he is not getting it all right, but he is putting in effort, and also paying for the the equiptment to search the landfill for Natalee. Aruba won't even give some equiptment, let alone help search.

I am sorry, but that country sucks in my opinion for the way they have bungled and continued to bungle this investigation. I can't believe they really think we Americans are that stupid to not see beyond their smokescreens. I don't think they want to solve this case, and I believe their is a massive cover up in good ol Aruba.

I for one WILL NOT ever go back there. I was holding off on saying that until now, thinking they might start actually trying to solve this case, but the more time goes on, and the better this gets, there is NO WAY I will give one cent of my money to Aruba, and I hope that many others do the same. Maybe the only way we can show our anger over this horrible travesty of an investigation, is to hit them in the pocketbook. Believe me, that just might work, and get those people moving over there.
God Bless Natalee, Beth, Dave, Jug and all of Natalee's family.

[sol rosenberg]

birmingham dog quote....

"Jossy...the Larry Flint of Aruba"

That, my friend, is the line of the week!

LMAO

- Sol

[Just Somebody's Grandma]

On the topic of Jossy...IMO if there were more good hearted people in Aurba like him, more folks willing to give their time and $$ to help find this young woman, the Twitty's and Holloways would have left that island a long time ago. I want Joran to pay the price for what he did but I also pray everyday that he and the 2 brothers will "fess up" so EVERYONE can try to get back to there life.

[kathy]

Please keep in mind when bashing Jossy M. that his son is working that trash site. Maybe Jossy is following ALL the leads he gets, his only fault is reporting what he is doing. For certain, if one of these leads come true Jossy will have the "scoop". We don't hear of the polis or government of Aruba offering land-movers, hoes or man-power to help dig up that trash site.

Also... I knew I heard right at the beginning of last week. It was reported by "Ruben" that the "gardner" was an illegal alien and after the deposition was taken on Friday this man was going to be sent back to his country. When the gardner didn't show everyone reported that maybe he got scared and left Aruba. NOW, last night... once again, this time from the opposite newspaper "Aruba Today" the reported said a judge has ordered a deposition from the gardner this week. After the deposition the "gardner" will be arrested and deported! In other words... did the gardner ever leave Aruba? He knows the word is out that he will be deported!

[Taylor]

I have watched and listened to the families of Natalee publicly thank Jossy for everything he's doing. I feel the same way. Without Jossy Mansur this search would not be happening.

[keylargogirl]

Thank God for Mansur. Otherwise,we would be sitting here absolutely nothing happen in this investigation. Our FBI should be able to go in there and take care of business. Let the Keystone Cops do what they are good at, sitting on the beach, and trying to maintain the appearance of their "PSEUDO" investigation.

Sorry, Aruba, those of us with half a brain can see your cover up a mile away. I just hope everyone that can see it, spends not one penny on your corrupt island ever again!

[Nancy]

Ok how hard is it since they got the license plate tag on the white truck to find out who the person is? Why do they only know his "nickname" and don't know who the real person is?

Who is paying the gambling debts and funds Joran's drinking he does (underage) at the bars and clubs?

Who is paying for the 9 lawyers he suddenly has?

[keylargogirl]

Nancy,

That is a great question. I would love to know who is paying for Urines 9 attorneys. As Jug said, he knows how expensive it is for one attorney, let alone nine. I have a feeling they are doing it pro bono, since Urine seems to be such a big star there in Aruba. That brings me to your other question, about URine and his gambling. It seems his family is connected somehow and can do whatever they want, with no consequence. Unbelievable! After all, can will bring down the whole island with his lies, and no one seems to care. I think this 9 attorney bring is just part of the whole cover up. I also think it sucks!!

REARREST THE COWERING KALPOES!!!!!

[kat_Gram]

Hey, Jossy has a former secret service guy down there.. an Art Wood.( Time is volunteered ) Jossy is not pulling this stuff out of his a$%.

[jayjay]

Doesn’t anyone find it interesting or odd that one of maybe 2 potential eyewitnesses (not including the central players) seems to be illegal on the island and is getting threatened with deportation when and if he comes forward!!!

Would ANYONE come forward under those circumstances?

Corruption, corruption, corruption!!!

Does Aruba realize the whole world is watching? Whether you are in support of the Holloway-Twitty family or not, you must be concerned that if you were to travel to Aruba and something was to happen to one of YOUR family members that they would be looked after by the authorities there!!!

[katie]

Before everyone starts a Jossy fan club, check out this article. Makes
me wonder more about all his "false" leads and his motivation....

http://www.tni.org/archives/tblick/aruba.htm

[Susie]

I think it is a "that remains to be seen" issue with Jossy Mansur. I know he's done alot more for NH's family than the Aruban officials on the island or the Aruban Government, in what ever country they happen to be vacationing in this week, has from the very begining. Joran Van Der Sleeze has lied more than any human should be allowed to and still does to this day. Jug Twitty stated that Joran has already admitted to "forced sexual acts" with Natalee so to think thats all he did is ignorance at its most priceless. What about a rape charge?? Or is rape just another crimes a judge-in-trainings son can get away with. The backhoes need to be in the Van Der Sloots back and front yards!! Digging, digging, digging!! You have no official authorities helping in any way, the justice system is a joke and this family is left to fend for themselves. I dont see anything wrong with following any and all leads, no matter where they come from at this point. God knows, nobody on that island is going to help them!!!

[Robert]

Well, the boycott of Aruba is not working. Which is good news for all of us who are interested in justice rather than a lynching.
Joran is innocent until a court of law says different. We should keep in mind that we do not know what are in police records there fro they are not public. The evidence will be presented in a public trial after the investigation is finished. I think it is good that we do not have a circus there like we do in high profile cases in the United States.

When Miss. Holloway went to Aruba she was entering a foreign country. One of the things we do when we go to a foreign country is go under a different legal system. If we are not willing to do that and take the responsibility to do that we should stay home. I have been to many countries and I have one rule to avoid trouble - arrive as a guest, act like a guest, and leave like a guest always going places where a good guest would go.

[jayjay]

Robert,

Sorry to say this, but what investigation are YOU referring to? Are you talking about the one where the prime suspects were let go because the lead investigator used to work for one of the suspects father's and then arrested two random security guards who happen to have an unsubstantiated reputation as shady on the word of those VERY same suspects?

The same investigation where the lead suspect has led the investigators around on a leash for the better part of 2 months. If so sir, I hope you never have to experience something of this magnitude in your family...

Oh wait, that won't happen because YOU and YOURS know how to behave in other countries. That behavior by the way would NEVER cause someone to take advantage of you or your loved ones...RIGHT?? Essentially, your second point is the old "Let's blame the victim". She was "asking for it", she "should have known better" and if it does happen PLEASE don't expect the legal authority to do anything about it...That’s just their way!!! awwww isn't that sweet of you!!!

C’Mon Dude!!!!

[Season]

Yea JayJay!! you tell it!

[beanie]

After reading what is below..what do you think about Jossy now? Makes one go hmmmmm...

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Messrs. L. E. and J. Mansur (represented by Dr. Jan M. Sjöcrona and Mr. John H. van der Kuyp) v. the Netherlands, Communication No. 883/1999, U.N. Doc. CCPR/C/67/D/883/1999 (9 November 1999).

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Messrs. L. E. and J. Mansur (represented by Dr. Jan M. Sjöcrona and Mr. John H. van der Kuyp) v. the Netherlands, Communication No. 883/1999, U.N. Doc. CCPR/C/67/D/883/1999 (9 November 1999).
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CCPR/C/67/D/883/1999

9 November 1999

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HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE

Sixty-seventh session

18 October - 5 November 1999

VIEWS

Submitted by: Messrs. L. E. and J. Mansur (represented by Dr. Jan M. Sjöcrona and Mr. John H. van der Kuyp)

Alleged victim: The authors

State party: The Netherlands

Date of the communication: 12 October 1999

Date of adoption of Views: 9 November 1999

On 9 November 1999, the Human Rights Committee adopted its Views under article 5, paragraph 4, of the Optional Protocol in respect of communication No. 883/1999. The text of the Views is appended to the present document.

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ANNEX*

DECISIONS OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE DECLARING COMMUNICATIONS INADMISSIBLE UNDER THE OPTIONAL PROTOCOL TO THE INTERNATIONAL COVENANT ON CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS

-Sixty-seventh session -

concerning

Communication No. 883/1999

Submitted by: Messrs. L. E. and J. Mansur (represented by Dr. Jan M. Sjöcrona and Mr. John H. van der Kuyp)

Alleged victim: The authors

State party: The Netherlands

Date of the communication: 12 October 1999

The Human Rights Committee, established under article 28 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,

Meeting on 5 November 1999

Adopts the following:

Decision on admissibility

1. The authors of the communication are Luis Emilio Mansur and Jossy Mehsen Mansur, Dutch citizens who are residents of Aruba. They claim to be victims of violations by the Kingdom of the Netherlands of their rights under articles 2 and 17 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The victims are represented by Dr. Jan M. Sjöcrona of The Hague, the Netherlands and Mr. John H. Van der Kuyp of Oranjestad, Aruba.

The facts as submitted by the authorsThe facts as submitted by the authors

2.1 The authors are members of the business community in Aruba. Among other enterprises Luis Emilio Mansur is co-owner of a shipping company and Jossy Mehren Mansur is owner and editor-in-chief of a newspaper and co-owner of a trading company.

2.2 Under a Royal Decree of 22 October 1994 the Interim Head of Aruban Security Service, A. Koerten, was instructed to carry out an investigation into the security and integrity of Aruba. A report on this investigation was produced on 20 April 1995, entitled Security and Integrity of Aruba: Context and Perspective.

2.3 The report was issued as top secret and was sent to a limited number of state officials and institutions, named in the report.

2.4 The report draws a picture of security in Aruba and mentions that foreign services fighting crime in the region are Aalmost unanimous in their opinion that the predominant image of the Aruban business community is one of joint services towards (laundering specialists of) regional drug cartels.@ The report mentions the authors by name and portrays them as criminals who were associated with criminal organizations involved in drugs trafficking, gun trafficking and laundering money obtained from criminal activities.

2.5 Despite the fact that the report was classified as top secret it was leaked to the press and its contents became public. It is not clear who leaked the report. An investigation of the leak was carried out by the Dutch Internal Security Service in which it was supposedly found that the leaked photocopy was not made from a copy in the hands of the Minister of Dutch-Antillean and Aruban Affairs or another Dutch official. The investigation report did not state of which copy the photocopy was made.

2.6 The authors claim that the allegations against them in the report are totally false and that as a result of the report becoming public their reputations were severely harmed. This led to serious damage to their business interests. They claim that by allowing the report to become public the State party violated their rights not to be subjected to unlawful attacks on their honour and reputation, protected under article 17 of the Covenant.

2.7 The authors requested the Minister of Dutch-Antillean and Aruban Affairs to disassociate himself from the report. When he refused, they initiated summary proceedings in the court of first instance in Aruba. In these proceedings they requested a declaration that the State party, the Minister of Dutch-Antillean and Aruban Affairs and the Interim Head of the Security Service of Aruba had no evidence that the authors were involved in laundering money or in fraudulent actions.

2.8 The court of first instance ruled that it had no competence to peruse the claim against the State party and that the Official Secrets Act justified refusing a remedy against the Interim Head of Security.

2.9 The authors filed an appeal against the dismissal of their summary action with the Joint Court of Justice of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. Contrary to the judgment of the lower court this court held that the courts were competent to peruse a claim against the State party. However, the Court held that the authors had failed to demonstrate, nor make probable, that the defendants had been negligent in allowing publication of the report and that they could not be held responsible for acting in violation of article 17 of the Covenant.

2.10 The authors did not challenge the above decision before the Netherlands Supreme Court as they were advised by a Dutch cassation attorney that they had no grounds for a successful cassation appeal.

The author's claimsThe author's claims

3.1 The authors claim that by not preventing publication of the information relating to them contained in the secret report the State party has violated their rights under article 17 of the Covenant. They further claim that the directives of the State party regarding classification of secret information and the requirement of the Court in the summary proceedings that the authors prove the negligence of the State party result in a violation of the duty of the State party, under article 2, paragraph 3, of the Covenant, to provide an effective remedy for violation of their rights under article 17.

3.2 The authors claim that by pursuing summary proceedings they have exhausted domestic remedies. They concede, however, that the domestic law does Aoffer the possibility of a civil standard procedure (before the same instance as where the summary proceedings were lost), yet going through this procedure takes up at least 4 to 6 years (in view of the existing possibilities for appeal and cassation).

Issues and Proceeding before the Committee

4.1 Before considering any claim contained in a communication, the Human Rights Committtee must, in accordance with rule 87 of its Rules of Procedure, decide whether or not it is admissible under the Optional Protocol to the Covenant.

4.2 From the materials presented by the authors it is clear that within the framework of summary proceedings the domestic courts could not examine the factual allegations of the authors. These could only be examined in a standard civil action. The authors have conceded that they have not commenced a standard civil procedure against the State party for a remedy for the alleged attack on their honour and reputation in violation of article 17 of the Covenant. In the circumstances, the Committee cannot accept the mere assertion by the authors that the application of domestic remedies will be unreasonably prolonged. Accordingly, the communication is inadmissible under article 5, paragraph 2 (b) of the Optional Protocol.

5. The Human Rights Committee therefore decides:

(a) that the communication is inadmissible under article 5, paragraph 2 (b) of the Optional Protocol;

(b) that this decision shall be communicated to the authors and, for information, to the State party.

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*The following members of the Committee participated in the examination of the present communication: Mr. Abdelfattah Amor, Mr. Nisuke Ando, Mr. Prafullachandra N. Bhagwati, Ms. Christine Chanet, Lord Colville, Ms. Elizabeth Evatt, Mr. Eckart Klein, Mr. David Kretzmer, Ms. Cecilia Medina Quiroga, Mr. Fausto Pocar, Mr. Martin Scheinin, Mr. Hipólito Solari Yrigoyen, Mr. Roman Wieruszewski and Mr. Maxwell Yalden.

[Adopted in English, French and Spanish, the English text being the original version. Subsequently to be translated also in Arabic, Chinese and Russian as part of the Committee's annual report to the General Assembly.]

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[Nancy]

Well, the boycott of Aruba is not working. Which is good news for all of us who are interested in justice rather than a lynching.
Joran is innocent until a court of law says different. We should keep in mind that we do not know what are in police records there fro they are not public. The evidence will be presented in a public trial after the investigation is finished. I think it is good that we do not have a circus there like we do in high profile cases in the United States.

When Miss. Holloway went to Aruba she was entering a foreign country. One of the things we do when we go to a foreign country is go under a different legal system. If we are not willing to do that and take the responsibility to do that we should stay home. I have been to many countries and I have one rule to avoid trouble - arrive as a guest, act like a guest, and leave like a guest always going places where a good guest would go.

Posted by: Robert | August 9, 2005 04:41 PM

[Nancy]

woops...I posted before I added my comment.

Way to go Robert...
A perfect post.

I love Aruba and I will continue to vacation there. I don't drink and party so I think I will continue to be safe.
I walk the streets alone and have never once been scared..Never Once.

[Nancy]

I think the VDS have so many attorneys as they are preparing to go after NH's mother!

I feel so sorry for her..
but, why dosen't she go home.
Can she do one thing more?

[Max]

I don't think these individuals pulled off the perfect crime either. I don't think she is on the island, I think the entire bunch is involved in slave trading. Believe it or not, its big in So America and in the Islands. Hard for us in this country to believe it happens but it does. Think hard about the excuses. Joran goes to casinos and gambles under age. He is known to lavish young girls, Daddy Van Der Sloot said NO BODY NO CASE, Daddy is a upcoming Judge, And in answer to the question about how can Joran afford 9 attorneys, whos to say that the Van Der Sloots are paying, could be the Off Island involvement is paying for those attorneys. What do you all think?

[jayjay]

Nancy,

She won't go home!

After all this time I cannot fathom people questioning her resolve. Do you sincerely believe that the Aruban LE will continue with this case if the spotlight was not on them?

They want this to just go away in the worst way!

I pose the same question I posted to your friend Robert...
Do you honestly believe that not partying or drinking makes you immune to predators?
Because if so, you should also add naivete to your list of vacation "do's and don’ts"