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[birmingham dog]

Oh Brother where art thou...

GWD

[birminghamnative2000]

new duct tape....wow.. i havent heard that yet...

[Susan]

It seems like we are going in circles. Back to the duct tape theory.

[Sarah #1]

They are about to interview Jug on Fox about the duct tape and hair found today

[Susan]

I heard this about 20 min. ago. Wonder if it belongs to the same person the first one belonged to? I never did understand the explanation of the so-called wind surfer that taped his long hair down when he surfed in the area. Why not use a rubber band like normal people. Seems using duct tape to hold down hair is a grasp for an unbelievable explanation they want us to believe. Something is fishy with that one. No normal person would use duct tape to hold their hair down. That's a good way to lose a lot of hair.

[Sarah #1]

I don't think they are using the duct tape to tape their hair.. they use it on their boards.. I think they were just saying you will always find duct tape on the beach where people surf.

[Sarah #1]

"Another Girl Approached by Joran and the Kalpoes?" Witness found by Beth Twitty.

Anybody else read this article on Scared Monkeys? Very interesting!

[stellar]

I thought they said the previous duct tape was used by a surfer to tie his hair back....literally. OUCH!

[Big Pappy]

So stupid, no surfer would use duct tape on his hair to keep it out of the way. And even if surfers use duct tape on their boards, why would it always end up on the beach having hair on it.

It all makes no sense at all.

[birmingham dog]

"Natalee Holloway was dancing on the bar.
Natalee Holloway was drinking.
Natalee Holloway has male DNA on her toothbrush.

There is no proof that she is dead.
There is no proof that she was kidnapped.
There is no proof that any harm at all was done to her whatsoever."

GWD

[birmingham dog]

Quote--"I'd like to bring up the Rocha/Grantski family at this juncture. They had a missing daughter/sister. 4.5 months went by before she was found, along with her baby. All during that time, we heard from the family very few times, and mostly thru their spokeswoman, Ms. Kim Petersen w/the Carol Sund Carrington Foundation. When we did hear from them, they praised LE, thanked volunteer searchers, thanked people who wrote them with support, begged for their daughter back, and maintained dignity throughout--even thru the trial of their formerly-beloved son-in-law.

There were message boards and blogs throughout the internet. MOST were supportive of the R/Gs--but, there were some very stong ones supporting Scott and his family. Everyone was free to have their own opinions about all of the case participants. To my knowledge, the R/Gs were NOT writing to forums or their owners, insisting on only "positive comments" about Laci be allowed. They maintained their silence, and let the wheels of justice roll forward--all without their public participation.

I've posted this so that members of the T/H Machine might take heed of the way a grieving family maintained their class and dignity throughout a very long and arduous and life-shattering experience. Ya, they read here--cuz they're more worried about public opinion than actually searching for the truth--whatever it may be. The cover-up is always worse than the crime....."--end quote--

GWD

[Bigfish]

Early on in the investigation, a roll of duct tape was found in bushes by the beach. No big deal was made of the find as it was explained that all of the boogie-boarders use duct tape for various reasons that I not being a surfer would be familiar with.

Bigfish

[birmingham dog]

Hey everyone, If you think this place RWV is a weird bunch, then you ought to check this site out.
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26559

Like wow, this Brimingham Native is a MDD(mountain brook disinformation department) deputy true and true. the people over at that site are sipping the Koolaide thru a sewer pipe.

LoL

GWD

[Big Pappy]

Uh, who's quote is that Dog?

[birmingham dog]

user "Birmingham Native" she threatens to ask the moderator to Bann someone for psoting a question that asks if the mtn Brook kids have changed their stories.

I came across the site and was surprised by the outlandish 1 sided discussions. I might add that I have heard about that site before but not seen it for myself.

GWD

[icey]

Whats your point?????

I'll correct you post below:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
"Natalee Holloway was dancing on the bar.>>
No, She was on the raised dance floor, along with many others.

Natalee Holloway was drinking.>>>
So????????

Natalee Holloway has male DNA on her toothbrush.>>>>>>>>>
So??, No matter where the DNA came from it shed's little or no light on her disappearance.

There is no proof that she is dead.>>>>>>>>>>
No proof she is alive..

There is no proof that she was kidnapped.>>>>>>>>>
Then where is she??????????

There is no proof that any harm at all was done to her whatsoever.">>>>>>>>>>>>>
It would be pretty stupid to assume that nothing happened to NH. Get your head out of the sand..

GWD
Posted by: birmingham dog | August 6, 2005 10:56 PM
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[lin]

B Dog it sounds like you are doing a lot of surfing for info on Natalee to be tired of hearing it. Turn your computer off switch channels there are some really good reruns out there. You also sound like someone who doesn't quite have the money or position the Twittys have and can't stand it. You're embarrasing yourself. I don't really think you are in Bham either.

[FloridaPatty]

Oh Icey let GWD have a place to perserverate*.
(look that one up, very appropo)

...............................................

The tape. Well the beachgoers in my house say that much stuff washes up on the beach. But AGAIN tape with hair? I'm with Mark Ferman, test the hair type to see if it's the same person. Luckily an American found this tape and took it and photographed it before turning it in!
It has "sea weed" stuff on it he said. And blonde hair with a reddish tint.

Sarah1, I did read that about the other girl reporting her approach by the boys. Not only did I expect that to pop up but I expect there are more girls but they are hesitant and scared to come forward, why? Because of the cave dwelling knuckle draggers who offer up their low browed intellectual commentaries on short skirts, drunk, drugs, late hours and "they knew what they were doing" or "accountability" or worse still...she had MALE DNA on her TOOTHBRUSH (well then we know what this naughty girl must have been doing now don't we)...yawn, someone wake me when the others remember this is 2005 and not 1955.

[lilly bet]

icey-you didn't "correct" B'dog's post, you just added a different perspective. Except for the fact that the picture Dan posted here shows Natalee up on the bar NOT the raised dance floor. And FYI - male DNA on her toothbrush could be relevant to her disappearance. FloridaPatty, DNA evidence on a toothbrush isn't something that would have even been an issue in 1955.

[birmingham dog]

lin, I had the same responce on another forum. You must be the same person, or running with the MDD crowd...hahaha... Dont worry the truth does Not bother me. But it does bother you, too bad you can't see that many, many people share my sentiments. it is currently 71 and mostly cloudy in the b'ham tonight. our hike my pup and I went on this afternoon at oak mountain state park was nice, it was very humid and mostly sunny.
What flavor koolaide are y'all drinkin tonight?

GWD

[birmingham dog]

Oh and lin, I used to live about 1 mile from natalee's house, so resorting to class warfare just doen't cut it. Oh how sticks and stones and playground tactics, show what little in the way of thought or logic some people have or not.

Surely u 2 can do much better than that...
cant get enough of that koolaide drinking thru the sewer pipe???

GWD

[Bigfish]

I thought it was interesting that Jug Twitty stated tonight that the Arubian prosecutor told Beth Twitty that Joran was represented by 9 attorneys. Last evening, the 9 attorney issue was addresed by Tito Lacle and he stated that Joran was represented by 3 attorneys. Which is it? That's like the Nancy Grace report that said Joran had told 9 different stories to the Dutch investigators and then another report 2 hours later by Jossie Mansur that Joran wasn't cooperating, was covering his ears, and not talking at all. Now which is it? Who is telling the truth? If Joran were represented by a firm with multiple associates, I could see where if different partners took who turns for court appearances or questioning, it would look as though he had a team of attorneys where in fact he was represented by a single firm. It sounded as though Jug Twitty was peturbed that no Arubian attorneys had volunteered to do pro-bono work for the Twitty family. It was also mentioned in one of these discussions that perhaps one of these lawyers is preparing or researching a civil case.

Bigfish

[Kristy]

Very well said Bigfish. I believe the media is exaggerating things. The stories, the lies .. the lawyers .. thats all what they have been told. But what is really true. Especially when it comes down to the ALE is not wanting info to get out which could damage the case.

I agree that it sounds like someone's jealous.

[Kristy]

who do you think is putting together a civil case. BHT or vdS ?

[birmingham dog]

fish, it appears to me that the Twitys are Now in defense mode. they know they will be sued for lible and defamation of character, and they also know things about the case that will blow a big hole thru the prosecutions case. You can see it happening they are preparing for that day in september when Joran walks free. Hopefully when that day comes the real effort to find what actually happened will go forth. Right now all you have is a PR campaign to discredit anyone relotely related to the accused.

natalee is Not on that island and time will tell, i am sure natalee will be found one day, hopefully sooner rahter than later. Moreover every effort made by the twitys has come up short. At this junctuire if I were them I would re-asess my plan and change directions, what they are doing is Not working, they need a change of perspective.

GWD

[lin]

Someone else told you that. It wasn't me. But that makes 2 of us for sure. Your close but not in Mt Brook right. What does H/T Machine mean exactly.

[birmingham dog]

lin----I took this picture back about 2 months ago.

http://birminghamscene.com/graphics/images/mbhs_yellow_ribbon1.jpg

GWD

[clintcarter]

Drinking kool-aid through a sewer pipe?

Some of us are still eating.

Last time the Holy Duct tape appeared I wondered Why? Why the duct tape and not the plastic bag, the piece of rope, the fabric? And from the Ocean no less. Duct tape on the beach. Alert the media.

What do they know?

I usr duct tape as a lint roller, bandage, shoelace, and wrappimg tape. Anybody else spot any Duct Tape lately? Call the police.

[birmingham dog]

Lin...I also took this one of Natalee's mailbox about a week after she went missing. I purposely blurred the picture so people couldnt see her street number, we dont want anyone to gawk around the neighborhood.

GWD

[birmingham dog]

http://birminghamscene.com/graphics/images/natalees_yellow_ribbon1.jpg

GWD

[Bigfish]

Did anyone think it was odd tonight on Geraldo with the TE director walking around the island with a map searching for old wells?

It looked as though he walked about 20 yards, didn't see any wells and noted the thorns and cacti and gave up. Real inside stuff, a real go-getter. It reeked of Gearoldo Rivera and Al Capone's vaults. LOL.

Bigfish

[lin]

There is something strange about you why are you going around taking pictures of ribbons and saying the negative things you are saying? By the way I have worked at St Vincents for years so I am a Birmighamian not a gawker born in Bham 55 yrs ago.

[LetsBeFahr]

Lin...I also took this one of Natalee's mailbox about a week after she went missing. I purposely blurred the picture so people couldnt see her street number, we dont want anyone to gawk around the neighborhood.

GWD

Posted by: birmingham dog

YO
Evidently, you were "gawkin" dawg

[leeza]

Did anyone catch Mark Fuhrman's comment on Geraldo that Joran has 9 lawyers and OJ only had 6 lawyers. Do you think Fuhrman has forgotten that it was the lying cop and not the lawyers that got OJ off? Maybe Fuhrman should get off his tail and go to Aruba and get things done. I guess he will just wait until it's over and write another stupid book about how he would have done it differently. Why does FoxNews keep dragging that loser out from the rock? Oh that's right, he is to honest investigation what Dick Morris is to decency in politics.

[ustt]

so dog are you wanting to be labeled as a psycho-case or are you just happening on the label accidentally?

[birmingham dog]

maybe it is strange that you think if there is discussion or debate as to the mistkes made and the false hoods that are presnted to us by the Mother. Some of you need to realize that there are many many people that think this way. And it is Not strange to want the best for Natalee and to THINk that her Mom does NOt have her best interest at hand. Obvisouly you have to admit that there are NO results in this case, so hence the plan of attack is not working. Natalee is still missing and we dont know anything else about this case no matter what Beth Twity is saying or doing.
She is lying to us and not telling us the real story all the while demonizing someone that might not be at fault. Sure Joran is not the best example of a boy but he can not be traced back to the disappearacne or the death of natalee. I make no judgemnts as to Joran's guilt or innocence, however I do know that Beth Twity is Not helping this case. You can choose to keep your head in the sand, I do not. And I am Not making any negative accusations, but what I am discussing is the truth.

I had my back syrgery at st.vincents last year in may. i am still recovering hence my mis-spelled words, by fingers are still not as steady as they need to be. Are you a nurse? It's raining at the moment, so do you retract your statement that iam not in Birmingham? What esle do you also retrack?

GWD

[birmingham dog]

ustt---"psycho-case" surely you can do better than that....where do you people come from anyway?

GWD---LoL---

[LetsBeFahr]

Yeah, dawg

This case would probably be solved if Beth had stayed in Mt. Brook.

Right dawg?

The 2 black men would probably charged & convicted.

The Aruban police have displayed excellent police work. It's a shame Beth got them off track.

[birmingham dog]

Did you knwo that the 2 balc security guards were accused by the mtn brook kids of stealing from them? the plice were going to arrest them anyway.
it took the police 4.5 months to find Laci Peterson, give them a chance to do their job. get some perspective, not everything is a case of conspiracy theory. And might you tell me exactly what Beth Twity has accomplished in finding her daughter ? I see no evidence, I see nothing basicly...results, oh yea balme it on someone else....the police, the prosecuter, etc...here in birmingham alone there are 2 black people that have been missing about the same time as Natalee, where are the police in these cases, are they too corrupt? Is it because they are black and can not grner the MSMedias attention? Do tell me since yoou are so much in the know....

GWD

[LetsBeFahr]

First of all, there certainly could be corruption in Birmingham. Birmingham is no different than Anytown, USA or Aruba.

Mayor's office hasn't been immune to corruption. I would hope the police deparment is not example. At least, from a racial standpoint, I wouldn't think this would be a problem.

Media has been on the case. Everyone in the surrounding areas are privy to the missing cases referenced above.

Fact is simple...Joran holds the key. He may not be a murderer or a rapist. If you think he is innocent of withholding vital information, you are mistaken.

[LetsBeFahr]

Dog,

BTW, so far Beth's efforts have proven fruitless. Just because a resolution hasn't come to fruition, doesn't mean she is a hinderence.

However, the FBI is now more involved.

Equasearch has provided assistance.

Rewards have been established.

One more thing, I pray the Kalpoes will sue Beth for liabel & slander. Guess what dog, It ain't gonna happen. It would open a can of worms that they don't want opened.

[birmingham dog]

LBF, are you going to stick to that asessment about the law suit? I would like to see the files that the FBI has on the mtn brook kids, one day all that will come out especially if there is a trial, Joran's attorneys will be privy to that info. this case will NOT fade away there is way too much disgusting info out there unknown that will reach out and grab these people. I can see it now, all the alurred details coming out.
Sorry you dont think beth is a hindrance but results matter to me and from whee I sit she is hurting this case.

http://birminghamscene.com/graphics/images/mbhs_yellow_ribbon1.jpg
Focus on Natalee...

GWD

[Kristy]

The BHT family and entourage has indeed said quite a few things that Im sure could coem back to haunt them. I just wonder if anything will come of it? I could not believe when TM said on fox that he would make PvdS life miserable ... how professional. Speaking of whom ... where is Tim Miller ?

The people of Aruba are really laid back and used to a stress free lifestyle ... will they(PvdS and the Kalpoes) take these statements and do something with them?

COmments?

[LetsBeFahr]

Ah, the true colors come to the surface.

Dislike for the "Brookies".

Frankly Dog, I couldn't care less if the MBHS students drank, did drugs, had sex, or cursed the Pope.

I matters not one damn bit.

Thanks again for "outing" yourself.

[Mrs. Sir Paul(((AG)))]

where is Tim Miller ?

Posted by: Kristy | August 7, 2005 02:07 AM

Tim Miller left Aruba right before LE was going to pick him up for harrassing the Van der Sloot family.

[MrsJimiHendrix]

lets be fahr

have you heard anything about the missing BLACK

man who is an assistant principal in a middle school in birmingham?

he went missing on MAY 22!! NOTHING!!

last person to speak to him was his mother, they spoke everyday

what have you heard?

i don't live in your area but heard about this ONCE on CNN.

i found it troublesome

[MrsJimiHendrix]

BDOG

i understand what you are saying about the missing in birmingham but i do not think the BLACK security guards did anything to Natalee.

i will never believe that.

[MrsJimiHendrix]

lin

i think he is in your area, cuz he is too emotionally attached to the mountain brook community (in a negative way). he has a personal reason for being so negative, what i do not know but it has been going on for a while

i have never heard of mountain brook before this case thus i could not possibly say something about the entire town the way he has (i wouldn't anyway)

i think beth symbolizes something to this man bdog, past present or both and he is taking it out on this case

dog i hope you can get some relief from all of this anger, it isn't going to change the case one way or the other it is only going to make your blood pressure go crazy. not worth all that

[birmingham dog]

MJH, it's not just me that feels this way abouot BT, but what about all these others that feel the sae way. I lived in Mtn Brook I have nothing against mtn brook. First you called me a drunbk , now what are you trying to do...Obfuscate ??? just leave it alone, I hardly ever see you post anything of value. no thoughts but to demean others. nice very nice, could it be that You are the one with the ISSUES??

My thoughts as to the MB kids are not that they had an invlovement but of the knowledge they have of that night in question. Do you all want to know what they have to say? As far as the black security guards, again they were accused by the mtn brook kids of stealing from them. Could it possibly be that the mtn brook kids are the ones that pressured the police to immediately arrest them, even though the police were going to arrest them the next day and bring them into questioning for the thefts?

I dont have high blood pressure, I find all this name calling laughable, it shows the utter lack of intelligent thinking..LoL..

first it was a drunk, now it is contempt, surely you can do better than that???

GWD

[melknee]

I hardly ever see you post anything of value. no thoughts but to demean others. nice very nice, could it be that You are the one with the ISSUES??
Posted by: birmingham dog | August 7, 2005 03:04 AM

MY POINT EXACTLY >>>>