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Mrs Jimi,

they must be a differnet breed of conservative

not familiar with those types in alabama ;)

dang it dan, you probably had this all along. i didn't have the scoop when i posted earlier on the prior tj page. you devil you, lol.

Dan - If you go to Mr. Yuhas' site you will see that he is actually a conservative, not that it makes any difference. A prick is a prick, no matter what there political beliefs.

Posted by: dave | July 31, 2005 11:48 PM

This is what passes a conservative in California these days.

I don't think this will be solved.........aruba really screwed up in those first days....really

Posted by: calista | July 31, 2005 11:54 PM

Calista
A cover up indeed. There is no other explanation. And they claim to have trained with the best police depts in the world.

Posted by: Cindi in PA | August 1, 2005 12:10 AM

You guys don't get sick of yourself repeating nonsense over and over?

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/kidnap/bradley.htm


ok for everyone who said natalee could not be listed on fbi missing list because she went missing in anoither country - amy bradley went missing in aruba also or in that region and she is on the fbi missing/kidnapped list - natalee NEVER has been on this list?????????/

Posted by: calista | August 1, 2005 12:15 AM

anyone have any info/thoughts on this? I htink it is downright weird

Posted by: calista | August 1, 2005 12:32 AM

Not in Aruba. Read before you write.

I meant TJ Ward, and not TJ Miller.

If Steve Yuhas is coming out complaining about the Holloway case, at least he can do is get his facts straight. Where do this man, Yuhas, come from the stone age? Natalee was not dressed like a slut. This is what irks me about some of these conservatives like Yuhas...blame the victim for her death. She asked for it because she dressed like a slut. He reminds me of a conservative minister that once said women ask to be rape because of the clothes they wear. I never went back to his church.

He places all the blame on the Holloway-Twitty clan for bashing Aruba. Holloway-Twitty clan expressed their disappointment in the way the Aruba authorities were handling the case, and they were justified, but they never bashed the Aruba people. They were the first to express disapproval of the Alabama boycott of Aruba because it would hurt the Aruba people.

I could read this jerk's article and know that he was a conservative and the worse type of conservative. The liberals spend their time on Natalee's race.

Ward is a media whore, IMO. I've watched him and he reeks of sensationalism. It is heartbreaking to think that he is using this sad situation and the Holloways for his own selfish and material gain. Also, Tim Miller has lost his marbles. WTF is up with him going to the VDS home with a Fox crew? Like THAT'S really gonna endear him to Paulus VDS. I've always heard you can catch more bees with honey than vinegar. Guess these idiots haven't heard that one. This case has really turned into a Jerry Springer sideshow. It is sickening. All these people with not-so-hidden agendas coming out of the woodwork like damn cockroaches. I have the feeling that we may never know what happened to Natalee or worse, that she will never be found. I hope Natalee's family can find some way to bring closure. God be with them in their darkest hours.

Dan, I'm disappointed with you. First the Scared Monkeys screed, and now dragging politics into this case (and getting it WRONG in the process). Yuhas, who has written more than one scathing attack on NH's family, is a self-admitted conservative. Call him whatever you want, but that's his own personal take on who and what he is. Which really can't be trumped by your defining him as a liberal because it suits your views.

Like Dave said, a prick is a prick no matter what political stripe.

I've enjoyed your coverage of the case, but would really prefer if you could leave traditional politics out of the NH story. It's demeaning to yourself and your audience.

This isn't a political story, it's a human one.

You guys don't get sick of yourself repeating nonsense over and over?


Posted by: Roy | August 1, 2005 05:08 AM

No, but what does make me sick, is guys named Roy, who don't mind their own freaking busisness.
Answer your question...Roy boy?

anyone have any info/thoughts on this? I htink it is downright weird

Posted by: calista | August 1, 2005 12:32 AM

Not in Aruba. Read before you write.

Posted by: Roy | August 1, 2005 05:12 AM

Calista..ummmmmmm I think he likes you..hehe

MrsJH JUST saw your post
Dan, Cindy, et al
from the start, why do names like Johnny Cochran and Mark Garagos come to mind when i think of this guy???

Those two made my skin crawl, Cochran was only famous because of "If it doesn't fit". The only lawyer on that case that amounted to much is Barry Scheck, his work on the The Innocence Project has helped soooooo many people. Wonder if
Garagos can help OJ with his newest criminal charges =:O


kandeyingeorgia, you took the words right out of my mouth. It's really sad & I'm wondering if Nat's family is observing this w/ Ward also. He's nothing but a big liarface after telling us that the witness he found described the car to a tee only to find out he fabricated what she said. And I'm still trying to figure out why Miller told the press that he was "positive' Nat wasn't on the island just before he left the first time when in fact he hadn't even had the opportunity & legal rights to search "everywhere". I shot this question at SM to ask during the interview & Red only asked 'half' of my question :( He did admit he didn't search the VDS property. Are these characters from another planet or what? Or did did i just put to much sugar in my coffee this morning?!~

I wrote the Yuhas jacka$$ a little email. What a piece of crap. Liberal, conservative, I could care less....He is obviously a whiney, self centered little boy. I have lurked on this site for about a month now, and some people have said lots of things that irritated me, but I think there is a special place in hell for that guy.

I am an Alabamian as well...and yes, I have a special interest in this case since my community adjoins MtBrook. I also care about each of the missing child (person) cases. I think the Shasta and Dylan Groene case with Natalee on top have created an especially painful news environment lately.

My most special interest in this case comes from being a mom with 3 little girls and an aunt to a beautiful blonde 18 year old niece who was due to start at Bama (also on academic scholarship) in the fall with Natalee. My niece is a wonderful responsible child, with a strong faith in the Lord. But I am not stupid enough to think she will never make any mistakes. She and my daughters will definitely make mistakes just as I did, and I pray that they don't pay for them with their lives.

My heart goes out to BHT and Dave every day...I pray that the Lord gives them the special strength necessary to endure the pain they are going through.

It was obvious to me that Yuhas was a conservative from reading his text.

I just don't understand the schoolyard tone from conservative people (meaning the ones on this board) about the idea of liberalism. It reminds of of children going, "Nyah nyah, nyah nyah nyah".
It seems so simplistic and immature.

Dan,

Read up on the guy before you go calling him a bleeding heart LIBRUL. He's a conservative talk show host that redularly puts down the Democrats and liberals and he's been dishonorably charged from the armed forces.

Do some homework before you go name calling.

Natalee dressed like a 'slut' in little more than a bra? Does this guy Yuhas get out much?

He certainly doesn't have daughters.
Just what we need, more stupid judgement by pissed off peolple with their own agenda.

He must see sin all around him in San Diego.

Clint,

He wouldn't know sin if it slapped him in the face (Steve Yuhas). He simply can have no real moral bearing or he wouldn't write what he does.

I know I am not supposed to judge,...however, his beliefs (or lack thereof) are pretty hard to miss.
The dishonorable discharge explains alot.

AUgirl

I just read the Steve Yuhas article. I can see Dan's point regarding the article..BUT Steve
does bring up some good points. I also have
been saying..its time for Beth to go home!!

If she wants to move to Aruba or spend her "own" money fine!! But enough is enough. And she needs
to keep Jug locked in a closet along with T.J.Ward.

Dave Holloway..on the other hand has handled
himself very professionally. I doubt you will
find many folks who are tired of Dave.

I have respected Tim Miller..up until his
i'm gonna harass the Van Der Sloots. I have
no compassion for the Van Der Sloot family
at all!!...but Tim Miller has also handled
himself in a very unprofessional manner this
last week.

Steve Yuhas did step WAY over the line in
regards to Women going to Aruba to just be sluts!!

Natalee Holloway did use very bad judgement
getting into a vehicle with 3 foreigners. But
she did not deserve to be murdered!

A couple comments were made regarding SM.

Personally speaking I am not a fan of SM.
I did have to laugh..all this build up of
Red going to Aruba..and heck they had more
reports on the Holloway case before he left.

Not sure if anyone noticed the other night..
when Tim Miller was on Fox..He said.."Well..
we are gonna be searching the landfill tomorrow..seems like someone let the cat out of the bag"...Well yeah they did!! SM had posted
regarding the landfill that afternoon.

In my opinion..if ole Red is in Aruba..he needs
to do his job which is ..search for Natalee!!

Noone donated money for Red's reporting. They
donated money so he could go through trash..like
all the other folks are doing..in looking for natalee.

Comparing Natalee being on an American plane and Amee Bradley on an American cruise ship. Your not serious right? Amee was ON the ship when she disappeared, Natalee was ON foriegn soil when she disappeared.

PinkCobrazz,
I really don't care what goes on here or SM I just want to follow what is happenong and hope Nat is found. Posts like yours just get on my last nerve. Ted has been searching for Nat he has been digging in that dump, in the scorching heat.
With the disgusting smells, pretty pathetic of you critizing someone who is doing that. He from what I understand talks to his wife at night and e mails her and she in the morning puts it on the site. OH MY GOD HOW DARE SHE!!!!!!!! How dare he call home and speak to his wife.
I'm not cheerleading for SM I barely go there, but fair is fair. So stop with the Character Assasination when it is uncalled for.
PS... If I was on SM and someone had said this about Dan I would have posted the same thing.

PinkCobrazz,
I really don't care what goes on here or SM I just want to follow what is happenong and hope Nat is found. Posts like yours just get on my last nerve.

Posted by COLOR

Then..I suggest you ignore those posts that
get on your last nerve!! ROFL how stupid is that??? Replying to a post you don't care about.
Noone is forcing you to reply or read anything here.

Who cares if Yuhas is liberal or conservative? Fact is, he sounds like a judgmental hypocrite who obviously doesn't have a daughter or a sister. I wrote him a thought provoking email as well, but I doubt he'll get the point. Sick people in denial are hard to reach...But what I've been wondering for awhile is: why are people so down on Jug Twitty? Has he not been incredibly supportive of his wife and has he not tried to get to the bottom of his step daughter's disappearance? I feel like he's acted just as dignified, for the most part, as his wife. I'd really love to know why people say such unkind things about him. Is he not also bereft with grief and frustrated at all of the twists and turns this case has taken, not to mention all the false rumors and leads?

That Steve Yuhas article is amazing, he calls Natalee a slut straight out twice in the article.

Show him you care :)

steve@steveyuhas.com

Sorry, Dan. Your assessment of Yuhas as a liberal was wrong:

Steve Yuhas was named one of southern California's "rising stars" in radio has been profiled in print and television for his brand of Uniquely Conservative Talk Radio™. Yuhas’ program is heard live from San Diego to Santa Barbara; Mexico to Arizona from the highest rated News/Talk station in San Diego - THE BIG ONE News Radio 600 KOGO and all over the world by KOGO's streaming audio .

Profiled by the North County Times, "At first listen, Steve Yuhas sounds like just about any other right-wing talk-show host on the dial... His guests include the usual array of newsmakers and gadflies, and his running commentary is sprinkled with nasty zingers about liberals and Democrats. He buddies around with like-minded colleagues. And his arch-conservative opinions are reliably predictable."

Hey guys, get off the case of T. J. Ward and Tim Miller. They are professionals doing a professional job. And, while we're at it, don't forget Arthur E. Wood, who has volunteered his services to Jossy Mansur. If you're looking for true media whores, how about Ruben Trappenberg, Julia Renfroe, and the other members of the Aruba Disinformation Ministry. I don't see them out there, sifting through the landfills, knocking on doors and wearing out their shoe leather. Give the pros a break!

Ex-Secret Service agent from city aids in Aruba search Saturday, July 30, 2005

By David Templeton, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A former Pittsburgh Secret Service special agent has found himself in the middle of the Natalee Holloway murder investigation -- the Aruba case that's drawn worldwide attention.

Arthur E. Wood

Volunteering his time, Arthur E. Wood has produced a key witness whose testimony, he said, "kills the alibis" of three key suspects. The testimony persuaded police to drain a 30-acre pond in hopes of finding the body of the 18-year-old Birmingham, Ala., woman, who disappeared May 30.

Wood said two suspects who were released from jail should be rearrested. Based on other leads, he and his crew also have begun searching an Aruban landfill for Holloway's body.

Wood, 56, formerly of West Alexander, Washington County, retired from the Secret Service in 1996 and now lives with his wife, Paula, in Ocala, Fla.

Now a private investigator, he e-mailed Jossy Mansur, owner of Aruba's Spanish daily newspaper, Diario, and the English paper, The Aruba Daily, with ideas about investigating the case. Mansur invited Wood to the Caribbean island off the coast of Venezuela to head a newspaper investigation of Holloway's disappearance.

Wood has worked six weeks in Aruba.

"He has brought a lot of investigative knowledge to the case, and he has the respect of everyone," Mansur said. "He's done a wonderful job."

Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were arrested and jailed on suspicion of murder, but then released. Joran van der Sloot remains in an Aruban jail in connection with Holloway's disappearance.

A key new development occurred when Wood heard a jailhouse story that Deepak Kalpoe had turned pale, then angry, during a dominoes game when another inmate provided accusatory hearsay. The inmate said a relative told him about a gardener's claim he'd seen the three suspects on a racket club roadway at 2:30 to 3 a.m. the day Holloway vanished.

That story prompted Wood and crew to search monthlong for the gardener, who went by a common nickname and was Colombian.

When Wood found him, the gardener recounted his experience of driving along a dirt road on racket club property at 2:30 to 3 a.m. that day and having to veer, then stop, because a sports car was blocking the road.

He told Wood the three tried hiding their faces and ducking out of view inside the car. But the witness was certain they were the three suspects, said Wood, who persuaded the witness to take his story to police.

"This kills their alibi. Their timeline is destroyed by this witness," Wood said, noting their claims they left Holloway safely on a nearby beach about 1:30 a.m. before heading home.

Wood said the gardener's testimony provides enough evidence to rearrest the Kalpoe brothers.

That hasn't happened, but police did stage a re-enactment, then began draining the racket club pond along the dirt road in hopes of finding Holloway's body.

Wood said he's not convinced the body is there.

If her body were thrown into the pond, it would have resurfaced by now, he said, unless it had been weighted down. He doubts they had time to do that.

Since then, Wood said, he has found another witness who said he saw three people burying a body in an Aruba landfill two days after Holloway's disappearance. With that information, Wood and crew got a permit, rented a backhoe and have begun searching for her body in the landfill.

"The man is a tremendous investigator," Mansur said. "He's been busy day and night, talking with people undercover and bringing very good information forward."

Wood this week has been interviewed about the Holloway case on NBC, MSNBC, Fox, CNN and other stations.

A native of Wheeling, W.Va., Wood joined the Secret Service in 1975. The federal law enforcement agency, best known for protecting presidents, also is responsible for investigating counterfeiting and financial crimes.

During his 21-year career, he was assigned to protect every president from Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton, along with former Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford and foreign dignitaries.

In 1989, he was reassigned to Pittsburgh, where he investigated and helped solve a complicated Nigerian credit card scam, which led to the deportation of a number of Nigerians.

"Sorry, Dan. Your assessment of Yuhas as a liberal was wrong:

Steve Yuhas was named one of southern California's "rising stars" in radio has been profiled in print and television for his brand of Uniquely Conservative Talk Radio™. Yuhas’ program is heard live from San Diego to Santa Barbara; Mexico to Arizona from the highest rated News/Talk station in San Diego - THE BIG ONE News Radio 600 KOGO and all over the world by KOGO's streaming audio."

Wow, using that to bash Libs and then he's one of your own! PRICELESS!!!

Actually, Dan, that Steve Yuhas character is described as an "arch conservative" radio show host from San Diego. And ex-Marine who apparently didn't get the memo about "compassionate conservatism."

He's typical of the genre, though. These "arch conservative" radio hosts are always trying to out-bombast each other. Even on a non-political topic like this one. It all comes down to money: they want to be the next Rush Limbaugh, and if they have to chew up and spit out a few non-politicians like the Twittys and Holloways in the process, so be it.

No, but what does make me sick, is guys named Roy, who don't mind their own freaking busisness.
Answer your question...Roy boy?

Posted by: Cindi in PA | August 1, 2005 10:19 AM

When the likes of you keep shooting crap about Aruba you make it my business.

"Sorry, Dan. Your assessment of Yuhas as a liberal was wrong:

Steve Yuhas was named one of southern California's "rising stars" in radio has been profiled in print and television for his brand of Uniquely Conservative Talk Radio™. Yuhas’ program is heard live from San Diego to Santa Barbara; Mexico to Arizona from the highest rated News/Talk station in San Diego - THE BIG ONE News Radio 600 KOGO and all over the world by KOGO's streaming audio."

Wow, using that to bash Libs and then he's one of your own! PRICELESS!!!

Posted by: Ann C is a MAN | August 1, 2005 03:05 PM

I think the last name YUHOS in hungarian
translates to Michael Moore in English.
So I think it was an honest mistake on
Dan's part.

Dan - Im disappointed you would even post Steve Yuhan's hypocritical report.
I thought you were better than that. This guy is a freak. Any one who would
blame the victim, stereotype her clothing when he didnt even see her, call
her a slut and then imply the family is milking everyone for freebies needs
some serious help of their own. He must have alot of anger issues with women. He certainly isnt a reporter. Dan you screwed up giving him any space on what I used to think was a repectable forum....

Dan - Im disappointed you would even post Steve Yuhan's hypocritical report.
I thought you were better than that. This guy is a freak. Any one who would
blame the victim, stereotype her clothing when he didnt even see her, call
her a slut and then imply the family is milking everyone for freebies needs
some serious help of their own. He must have alot of anger issues with women. He certainly isnt a reporter. Dan you screwed up giving him any space on what I used to think was a repectable forum....

Posted by: katie | August 1, 2005 04:39


Now what kind of forum would this be..if ALL
opinions were not welcomed? You have both..
the good and the bad and discussion is open to
all. I'm certainly not a Steve Yuhos fan..but
he also did bring up some good points.

And by posting his article..it was only
another point of view..which obviously Dan
disagreed with.

Whats next katie?? Are you going to want
anyone who disagrees with you filtered and
the posts hidden? Now just how respectable would that be?

Im all for freedom of speech and everyone having their own opinions. I just think its an insult to the Holloway-Twitty family to print that persons views when it was nothing but prejudicial stereotypes and hatefulness. I thought reporters had some kind of ethics or code of honor they believed in. Apparently this guy missed class that day. Or, excuse me, has no class at all. His comments served NO purpose except to hurt people who are already hurting more than you or I will ever experience. And no, I don't believe he brought up ANY good points. NONE. The Holloway-Twitty family deserves our prayers not putdowns. They have not MILKED anyone for anything. The gratuities they have been given have been offered, not asked for. There are fundraisers all over Birmingham to help them. The article still should not have been given any space on this forum. He's not even a legitimate reporter; he works for an AM station. Everyone knows thats where the losers work. Meanwhile he should consider getting a little therapy for himself and find out why he finds is useful to write such scum.

The guy from San Diego, Steve Yuhas, wrote me back. Didn't answer my questions, though. Just told me he was in his mid 30s and was a war veteran who is paralyzed as a result of his time in the service. I emailed him back, but don't expect to get a thoughtful response this time either.

Um, Katie....there haven't been "fundraisers all over Birmingham" for the Twitty family. Maybe all over Mtn. Brook, but not the city as a whole. And I only recall two in Mtn. Brook, actually. The bracelets are around in various locations, but that's about all that's happened outside of Mtn. Brook proper.

It does seem like B'ham is somewhat putting this story on the back burner now, too. Outside of Mtn. Brook, I think people are really not thinking about it so much anymore.

I really don't think her body will ever be found, I'm sad to say. My heart goes out to her parents, but I do think this is not going to have the closure they desire. Too much time elapsed from the date of her disappearance to the date the real culprits were brought in. Ten days is just too much time to give those guys to dispose of her in a place where she can't be found.

Um, Katie....there haven't been "fundraisers all over Birmingham" for the Twitty family. Maybe all over Mtn. Brook, but not the city as a whole. And I only recall two in Mtn. Brook, actually. The bracelets are around in various locations, but that's about all that's happened outside of Mtn. Brook proper.

It does seem like B'ham is somewhat putting this story on the back burner now, too. Outside of Mtn. Brook, I think people are really not thinking about it so much anymore.

I really don't think her body will ever be found, I'm sad to say. My heart goes out to her parents, but I do think this is not going to have the closure they desire. Too much time elapsed from the date of her disappearance to the date the real culprits were brought in. Ten days is just too much time to give those guys to dispose of her in a place where she can't be found.

"Katie," are you actually Debbie Cleghorn?? You sure write like her..

Bham resident, you are evidently not keeping up
with what's going on around here. Fundraisers have been raising money for the Holloway-Twitty
family for weeks at multiple places. Did you miss the outdoor concerts? Did you miss the donations outside of grocery stores? Did you miss
the bake sales and garage sales all to help the family continue with their search and expenses in Aruba? Its not just the Mt Brook community who cares about her. Its the whole State. For once we are not divided by suburb or zip code. But apparently you still are. I am telling you this with a heavy heart. Its sad it takes such a tragedy to make people pull together but it also says alot about what makes us all united. The determination to bring one of our own home. Where she belongs. There has been alot said about
her community being "afluent" and the "tension between Beth and Natalle's father, Dave." Well here's the truth. When two people have a child together, regardless of what caused the divorce,
none of that matters when their child is missing or hurt. The bottom line is everyone loves Natalle and wants this horrible nightmare to end.
They dont have to be great friends to have a common bond, their daughter. They dont' have to
be "close" to still both love their daughter and be hurting down to the bone over her disappearance. I think they've all done a superb
job sharing the communication and media with everyone, despite all their personal pain. And no
there was no big issue between Dave and Beth over
natalee going on this trip. Thats just gossip.
Beth has done a wonderful job as a mother and DAve has done a wonderful job as her father and Jug has done a great job being a stepdad who obviously cares and loves Natalee. They've all done the best they could. Give them that respect and peace. Quit turning this into a soap opera of
divorce and blended families. They've all handled themselves with alot of dignity, more than most of us would have been able to do. They are all hurting. They all need our support and love and prayers. Even if you never thought it would help before, this is the time to get on your knees and pray for some peace for this family. It does not matter what natalee was wearing her last night in aruba, or how much she
may have had to drink, or if she called home or not while on her trip or if her dad wanted her to go on this trip or if she had an ex boyfriend or what her friends were doing or if she willingly left the bar with 3 strangers. All that matters is a beautiful 18 year old girl who had done everything right all her life, made the grades, did all the right things, got a full scholarship to college, wanted to be a doctor,
was well known in her church,had plenty of good friends, and saw her future waiting on her, is now gone. Snuffed out like a candle in the wind.
And for what possible reason.... Why was her life
cut short? Because of some spoiled sociopath or
psychopath. That waste alone makes whatever time
and expense it takes to solve this case worth it.
Natalee deserved much better and the family is
determined to make sure the truth comes out. And no, I am not Debbie Gleghorn. I dont know this family and I dont know anyone who knows them or
Natalle. Im a Mom.

Bham resident, you are evidently not keeping up
with what's going on around here. Fundraisers have been raising money for the Holloway-Twitty
family for weeks at multiple places. Did you miss the outdoor concerts? Did you miss the donations outside of grocery stores? Did you miss
the bake sales and garage sales all to help the family continue with their search and expenses in Aruba? Its not just the Mt Brook community who cares about her. Its the whole State. For once we are not divided by suburb or zip code. But apparently you still are. I am telling you this with a heavy heart. Its sad it takes such a tragedy to make people pull together but it also says alot about what makes us all united. The determination to bring one of our own home. Where she belongs. There has been alot said about
her community being "afluent" and the "tension between Beth and Natalle's father, Dave." Well here's the truth. When two people have a child together, regardless of what caused the divorce,
none of that matters when their child is missing or hurt. The bottom line is everyone loves Natalle and wants this horrible nightmare to end.
They dont have to be great friends to have a common bond, their daughter. They dont' have to
be "close" to still both love their daughter and be hurting down to the bone over her disappearance. I think they've all done a superb
job sharing the communication and media with everyone, despite all their personal pain. And no
there was no big issue between Dave and Beth over
natalee going on this trip. Thats just gossip.
Beth has done a wonderful job as a mother and DAve has done a wonderful job as her father and Jug has done a great job being a stepdad who obviously cares and loves Natalee. They've all done the best they could. Give them that respect and peace. Quit turning this into a soap opera of
divorce and blended families. They've all handled themselves with alot of dignity, more than most of us would have been able to do. They are all hurting. They all need our support and love and prayers. Even if you never thought it would help before, this is the time to get on your knees and pray for some peace for this family. It does not matter what natalee was wearing her last night in aruba, or how much she
may have had to drink, or if she called home or not while on her trip or if her dad wanted her to go on this trip or if she had an ex boyfriend or what her friends were doing or if she willingly left the bar with 3 strangers. All that matters is a beautiful 18 year old girl who had done everything right all her life, made the grades, did all the right things, got a full scholarship to college, wanted to be a doctor,
was well known in her church,had plenty of good friends, and saw her future waiting on her, is now gone. Snuffed out like a candle in the wind.
And for what possible reason.... Why was her life
cut short? Because of some spoiled sociopath or
psychopath. That waste alone makes whatever time
and expense it takes to solve this case worth it.
Natalee deserved much better and the family is
determined to make sure the truth comes out. And no, I am not Debbie Gleghorn. I dont know this family and I dont know anyone who knows them or
Natalle. Im a Mom.

I haven't had a chance to read everything. Does anyone know if TJ Ward used that voice lie detecting device on the landfill witnesses?

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/kidnap/bradley.htm


ok for everyone who said natalee could not be listed on fbi missing list because she went missing in anoither country - amy bradley went missing in aruba also or in that region and she is on the fbi missing/kidnapped list - natalee NEVER has been on this list?????????/

Posted by: calista | August 1, 2005 12:15 AM

anyone have any info/thoughts on this? I htink it is downright weird

Posted by: calista | August 1, 2005 12:32 AM

Not in Aruba. Read before you write.

Roy - Calista claimed it was "...in aruba also or in that region..." To be specific the ship had left Aruba and was enroute to Curacao.

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/missing.html

Sure not IN Aruba, but "in that region" does qualify.

TJ WARD is a thief. I hired him to do some asset and fraud searches for a personal case. He stole my money, while bragging about natalie, and produced very little. he is no better than the thief he was supposedly researching.

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