Suspects In Natalee Holloway Disappearance To Undergo DNA Testing

According to MSNBC

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - A suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager and two men who had been held in the case were ordered Tuesday to undergo DNA testing, NBC News has learned.

Comments

[CancunGirl]

"A separate test will be conducted by the FBI at its lab in Quantico, Va., said FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela in Miami."

This is new! Wonder if those results will be disclosed, or they will keep everything hush, hush so they won't compromise the Dutch manner of conducting an investigation?

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Wow... That's a pretty good sign , it appears things may be moving in the forensic department!!

[shonane]

For what? How do they intend to use the results?

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Whether things are hush now or not, I have a feeling we are going to see things really start to move.....It's been tooooo long!!

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Duct tape .. Car evidence .. Clothing ... They have more than we know

[Andrea]

Watching on the record with Greta right now...am I the only one who thinks Natalee's friends look stiff and unfeeling? If Natalee was my friend I think I'd be a little more reactive and emotional. They seem rehearsed and it sounded like they didn't even seem to care....or covering something up...

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I've seen what you mean about stiff , and unfeeling ,,, but like others have said I think there are things some of these kids don't want known on tv! They are also 17-18yros in a tv studio with cameras and people in their face....seems un-nerving!?

[Kay]

Getta just said that Joran was taken to the hospital???

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At least seems good the fbi is involved in some of the testing!

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Please fill me in a little ... cable is out!

[Andrea]

Guarantee Joran went to the hospital for DNA testing...they need a sample to make a match for anything they find along with hairs on duct tape...

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MSNBC (((Outside the jail, the two men exchanged a few words. "I said I was a forgiving person," and the Dutch father's eyes filled with tears, Holloway said.)))

I wonder truthfully what those tears maybe about???

[Kay]

They took him and the other two to do DNA testing!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sniffy]

If that hair was not a very possible match for Natalee there is no way they would be "ORDERED" to submit to DNA testing. We know now how Aruba LE operates. These three and Daddy are going to really worry now. Wooo Hoooo.

Of course it's just another thing that should have been done weeks ago.

[Andrea]

Kay,
that is my assumption...greta is going to tell us when she gets back from commercial breaka, i could be wrong

[Sgt.Sally]

Two body language indicators that I picked up while watching the friends of NH on Greta tonight.
they were Francis Ellyn (sp?) and Kathryn.
On girl kept pursing her lips so tightly she no longer appeared to have a mouth! She seems to be almost physically biting her mouth closed in an effort not to say anything. The other, many times when she answered questions giving an affirmative or assertive answer, kept shaking her head back and forth as in "no". I believe this is called negation. I would tend to be skeptical of what was being said when someone is negating.

[Kay]

No it's not an assumption I read it on MSNBC

[Andrea]

YUp,they just confirmed they needed saliva from Kalpoe brothers and Joran for DNA testing. It's about time!!!!!!

[Kay]

The brothers denied to do it at first and the court got a court order and got it!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bamamom]

Well it sounds like there is good news as far as evidence..

[Scratch]

If Joran went to the hospital it is not for a swab or saliva test. They must be taking his BLOOD.

[bamamom]

I am biting my tongue right now:)
So Kalpoe's refused, and they got a court order?

[Kay]

No, Gretta said it was for a salava testing!

[Kay]

Yes, both of the Kalpoe's refused but were ordered by the court

[Jen]

Did Joran refuse at all?

[Kay]

I don't think he could because he was arrested.

[Jen]

That's what I was thinking. But the Kalpoe bros still maintain thier innocense so I wonder why they refused if they are so willing to help?

Hummmm...

[annie]

Very encouraging indeed.

I found Francis interesting as well. Her body language was very "stepford" (no offense, but reminds me of Stepford Wives lol!). Kathryn seemed more like she was having difficulty understanding what Greta was asking (unfamiliar with the technology or something), but was a bit more normal in behavior. However, I noticed she did a very quick glance to Francis on the question about whether Natalee had been drinking or was under the influence of any drug. It was ever so slight, but Francis was shaking her head no at the time and Kathryn did a quick look at her and then responded "no". It just seemed odd. Maybe she glanced over because she saw movement, or maybe she was confused what was asked and then it dawned on her what was being asked when she saw Francis shake her head, but it was just interesting timing.

[Kay]

Yes, that is really strange isn't it!

If you have noting to hide you hide nothing!!!!!!

[Jen]

They are all screwed! LOL Next thing you know Daddy will have his salava tested too!!!! Sounds good to me.

[bamamom]

Here is a thought...
Don't hit me!
What if there were a good cop....sitting amoungst all the dirty cops...and he knew of evidence..that had to be "reintroduced" so these guys would go down.
That would certainly leave egg on Van Der Struddles face..
To think you dotted all you i's...and OOPS there goes a t uncrossed!

[BamaMom]

There are 2 "bamamom"'s on here, or maybe more...I hope some of the hate mail I have received was intended for for some of the others...LOL! (No, I know that can't happen...we have different e-mail addys).
This "BamaMom" wonders if the long-awaited is more for show, to pacify the public and the Holloway-Twitty family, just like the beach reenactments and the F-16's...still, I wake every day hoping that the headlines read, "Natalee found".

BamaMom Pam

[bamamom]

That is terribly unfair..and untrue..
I have been here for the longest time..and Dax, and Mrs. Jimi Hendrix and several others know me...

[late]

Maybe the kids are just nervous about being on TV. Everything isn't a cover-up, guys. Simmer down.

[bamamom]

And I have prayed for Natalee every day. And I have spoke against the boycott of Aruba as it is not their fault..and I have called for justice in the intelligent and appropriate handling of evidence...and I have praised our country and our soldiers for defending Democracy as we know it. I have stood up to those who assault Beth and Natalee's character in anyway. And I have never received hate mail...:)

[patrick]

Forget about the 2 girls from Alabama and all this conjecture they are hiding something. Give me a break. I'd be scared shitless if I was in front of a tv and on a national audience, and I'm 40 y.o. In terms of the DNA collected from Joran, Deepak and Satish....they all refused to give it voluntarily, so the police got a court order today and collected the DNA. We don't know the laws on Aruba so therefore we can't conclude or jup to conclusions, that there is ANY EVIDENCE for which to compare these DNA samples. It could be that they are simply collecting it in the event some evidence is recovered where it will be necessary to compare. In fact, this is the most likely scenario.

[BirmighamNative2000]

What station does Gretta come on? I have never been able to catch her at all? Can someone pleasee tell me.. thanks!!

[pamy]

thank you for telling us what is going on about everything. this is great chat. many of us can't afford cable and do not have a clue. hopefully they are building a case and have a lot of evidence we do not know about and are keeping it concealed for court.

[Jessie]

I would not read too much into the swabs for DNA testing thing. Maybe just want something to test against for any future evidence that may come up in this case. Or maybe they have something now that they want to test against.

Regarding the MBHS kids that Greta had on. Nobody that knows anything is going to appear on TV and talk to Greta. These two girls say they left the bar at about midnight. But every kid that does talk on TV appears to be mentally retarded. Maybe not such a big deal to finish 25th in a calss full of retards. And they probably grade on the curve MBHS.

[bey]

hahahhaha omg Jessie lol funny but not nice

[AtheistGirl]

I've always thought that Natalee's friends looked rehearsed and stiff in ALL of the interviews they've done. Frances Ellen is the WORST! They are for sure hiding something, and it is sad, b/c you can see right through them. I don't think ANYONE believes that Natalee WASN'T drinking that night. But a few drinks doesn't make her deserving of rape and/or murder.

I've seen interviews from a couple other MB students on the trip, and they were more comfortable. Both said the teens (including Natalee) were partying responsibly. ;)

Different picture being painted depending on which of her "friends" you hear from.

[nan27]

Greta is on Fox News, the same station as Bill O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes.

[harry]

The DNA request may be a bluff. However, the news that the police chief is going on vacation not to return, I believe is significant. The Aruban police may have their smoking gun.

[pamy]

on scared monkeys blog the guys that do that site are saying the 2 girls changed their stories. before they said nat met joran first at blackjack table at the hotel. now they say they first met at c and c's that last night. these are all rich kids, so maybe their lawyers told them to be careful, or someone told them to not say much to help the court case or as jessie said "no one that knows much would be on the show."

[patrick]

hey athiest girl,

these kids are 17...what do you expect from them. How old are you? They are children. How do you expect them to act on NATIONAL TELEVISION...comfortable, loose, laughing, at-ease? C'mon. Smarten up and just read. You are embarrasing yourself.

[AtheistGirl]

Check out Scared Monkeys. They happened to catch on to the fact that between the two interviews she had with Greta, Frances Ellen changed her story about when they first met Joran. What are they trying to cover up?

[annie]

I doubt that a judge would sign an order just for a bluff. They are actually rather similar to us in that regard, to get a court order or a warrant, you have to have a good basis, typically supported by some sort of evidence.

[kescah]

But it is sooooo interesting that they all refused. My my. Wonder if there is something to hide?

Shasta Groene's father, when he heard about all the murders and that the two children were missing, realized that he would be the prime suspect and he got his fanny down to the police station and whatever he said or did, they believed him and exhonerated him right away. Said he was NOT a suspect. That was a shock to many people, but if you are innocent and cooperate, they tend to believe you. The 3 boys should have been watching Shasta's daddy.

[pamy]

maybe these girls say nat wasnt drinking to accentuate any evidence that she was drugged. they must have put the date rape drug in her "pop" (shirley temple cocktail)

[bey]

yea I agree with patrick....they're just kids..the one looked frozen in front of the camera and had to have first question repeated as if she wasn't focused ,....is like stage frieght...i wouldnt look into it as anything else....