New Witness Emerges In Natalee Holloway Case

On Fox News, Jossy Mansur is announcing that a new witness has come forward in the Natalee Holloway case.

The witness saw the car with Joran driving and pulled over between 2:30 and 3:00 AM the night of the disappearance. The boys tried to hide as the wirness drove by.

Developing.

Update: Ian at The Political Teen has the video.

Comments

[M.A.]

Icey - I think 4 a.m. is significant because Natalee's mom said she remembered Joran's father saying he picked his son up at 4 a.m. at the McDonalds. Then later changed it to an earlier time. She made a note of the 4 a.m. time in her journal that she keeps.

[FloridaPatty]

Clips from tonight as fast as I can type.....

Geraldo reports tonight:

Diario paper discovered the witness who saw the three boys with Natalee. the newspaper urged the witness to go to the police.

"What our people have been searching for three and a half weeks because of info from prison that one of the kalpoe brothers participated".
Between 2:30 and 3, one brother in the back, Joran in the driver's seat. he drove by slowly and Joran tried to hide his face, one of the brothers in the back dropped down so as not to be seen.

Friday, Dario took this man to the police. He did not come forward because he was afraid.
No reward involved, out of his own free will, again source came from the prison until they were able to track down the man after a search over several weeks and found him. Reporter confronted this guy, he threw down his dominos, when they found him (on Friday) and the paper reporter convinced him to come forward.

The three boys were seen within walking distance of the Marriott. Natalee was not seen in the car with them.

TJ Ward says: I think it's great news. It's about time this broke loose. My experience this story should have broke in about three days but it's fifty-five days now and finally the people are breaking loose. I feel it's credible information, we're still gathering information.

If Joran was with the brothers that morning, Natalee is not with them, she's already been disposed of it looks like.

TJ: It looks like we have three defendents and two of them need to be picked up off the streets.

He was very scared to go to the police. We can't identify him because he is a very private witness for the police.

The FBI is probably the leading geology lab in the world but the sand seems to be missing, it seems to not have been collected properly, it's stale evidence, tainted.

[zebbe]

Wasn't it said that "Sporter"VDS belonged to the Racquet Ball Club? Would he have a key? Could they have been there looking for "materials" to dispose of NH with?

Someone mentioned PVDS having her? I don't know 'bout that, but I'd give anything to have the rumor that PVDS made two ATM w/ds early hours, cleared up. Why would PVDS need cash at 3-3:30 AM? Coke addict? don't think so!

If this rumor/witness account is true, then it's safe to say Joran leads the Kalpoe's around by their noses. Normally, young men don't let other young men drive them around in their car. So, looks like "Sporter"VDS is the big cheese in that operation.

Oh to find the smoking gun! Or better yet, Natalee.

[tideroller]

Any night owls want to explain this new development to me? With 14 to 16 different 'versions' by JVDS et al, it's been really getting hard to sort out the variations on the time line. What does this new witness's testimony mean? Please pardon me for this horrible thought, but if one of the Kalpoe's was in the backseat, could he have been in the middle of his turn in the gangrape? That would explain why Natalee was not to be seen. Please pardon if any of these questions have been asked before. I did scroll up quite a bit, but haven't read the whole thread. Thanks for anything y'all can clear up.

[Gary]

I want to believe that goodness and justice prevails, but I'm afraid that isn't always so. This case continues to chip away at the part of me that was once so optimistic and idealistic. Joran, his father, Deepak, Janssen, these are all clearly people without ethics and consciences. If my son committed a murder, accidental or not, it would break my heart and soul but I would never cover for him. Each of us must face the consequences of our actions. In this case truth probably won't prevail, but the worst side of what is possible in man will. I just pray that there is a hell and a God and that these four are one day sent to hell and may it be hotter, more miserable, and more torturous than anything we could ever imagine. Joran's son has encouraged his son to break the law rather than come clean. The VanderSloots are the scum of the earth.

[annie]

Huh, I wonder if anyone has checked the racketball club. Could she be somewhere in there? It is a fairly public place, but sometimes bodies are found in the oddest places, where people often would never think to look. I know that seems illogical in a sense, but sometimes illogical is the way these weirdos think. LOL!

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

This reminds me of something Jesus said,

"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs."
Luke 12:2-3

[kescah]

It was one of the Kalpoes playing dominoes in jail when the comment was made that the gardener saw them that night. The Kalpoe brother threw down his dominoes.

[Roy]

Speaker, if that's the best your brain could produce then don't speak.

[Jessie]

This reminds me of something Jesus said,

"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs."
Luke 12:2-3

That sounds like a threat to me. Everybody here should seek cover.

[Ray]

But the windows in the car they were said to have been driving from C&C were TINTED weren't they? How could this witness have seen all this?

[ohmygod]

maybe the windows were not closed?duh

[sol rosenberg]

Maybe trying to "air out" the car...

[nancy]

I also just heard on MSNBC "a witness knows where
the body of Natalee holloway is". Is this a
second witness ? The media needs to try to report
more accurately. Fox news website has no news on
the Hollaway case.

[marci]

Yes, I just heard on the Today Show that someone knows where the body is which I heard last night on MSNBC, too. On the Today Show they said the person described in detail where it is and that they would report more on it later in the day as it develops.

[Susie G]

Did anyone investigate the racketball club? Joran and the brothers may have gone in their to clean themselves up. My club has a record of everyone as they go in but not when they leave.

[Dixie]

With all that reward money out there I am sure "witnesses" are going to be coming out of the woodwork now.

Gary, why are you grouping Janssen in with the suspects?

[Susie G]

Natalee's dad said the bone found on the beach was from a human, but was there for 2+ years. It could be Amy Bradley's. Unfortunatley, I know how devasting it is when your child dies, but I can't help but feel that some deaths are more gut wrenching than others. I'm afraid that finding Natalee's remains will not make anyone feel better. My heart goes out to her family.

[Seattlegirl]

I read some research on the topic of predators and it shows that they:

-Seek out victims within a short distance of their home (a couple of miles)
-They commit their crime within 2 hours of obtaining the victim
-If they kill their victim, they dispose of the body within 5 miles of their home

[Dave]

Isn't it possible that the reason Depak "ducked" was to cover the body of Natalie rather than to hide?

Also, the 2:40 am phone calls could have been to get Depak to hurry up with the burial or rape.

[shyne235]

i just have bad feelings about deepak-- i think that he did a lot of the dirtiest work that nite. maybe natalee wasn't quite dead or severely drugged or near death in that back seat, and joran and satish, too scared shitless to continue with anything, order deepak to go and finish her off. (sorry for that language)

anyone help me figure out the significance of all the lies they told? because they sure as hell were strategic. why the lighthouse? to cover for what. why natalee "falling" as she got out of the car? to prove or show what?

[shirley]

Someone said the suspects were members of some club. Any chance they disposed of her on the club grounds. Like a golf course. It seems like the last place for the police to look -like - if it's an exclusive club, grounds may be guarded, police not want to step on the toes of the rich. We've certainly seen the same thing in the states.

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

Seattlegirl

Hi! It's good to hear from you again.

That's very interesting, thanks. That is probably because they are opportunistic in nature, which seems to be the case here.

Some could be within one mile and some could be within 9 miles and "statistically" that could be within 5 miles if the locations were evenly distributed. At that end of the island (~ 5 mi wide x ~19 mi long) unfortunately, that still doesn't narrow it down too much.

[Zack]

This is tragic. The Kalpoes need to be arrested again now, there is enough evidence and reasonable proof to hold them. If they have done this, they should be put in the chair, this is terrible. PVS, is prolly in it someway too, and is a coward for covering up. JVS and PVS need to be men, and come forward now.

[Wabbi]

Over a year later, and here we are. Still looking for the truth.

[tom bradley]

do not know what to belive so many differnt stories