Natalee Holloway: Evidence And Untruth

This below was compiled by reader / commenter airam. I did some editing, nothing more. The question of evidence, or lack thereof in this case is obvious. And what there is, is circumstantial. To some extent, the information below deals with that, or at least good cause to question the boys' innocence.

As any untruth might pertain to some truth, I researched some of the stories told by the three boys.

Below are some of the untruths that the boys have told since the beginning. If you know of any others, just let airam me know in comments and she may add it to the list...

False Statement #1

Joran, Deepak and Satish drop Natalee off at the Holiday Inn, she stumbled out of the car and trips onto the ground. Joran tries to help her; she refuses and states “I can stand on my own”. They see the two security guards, drive away Deepak and Satish take Joran and go home.

False Statement #2 - Almost the same as #1 – but more detailed.

Deepak tells his Mother that he and Satish were giving Joran and Natalee a ride to the hotel. Joran and Natalee were kissing in the backseat and he was getting upset because he did not like that in his car. He said “That if you want to make love, go and pay a hotel and go in a hotel room, not in my car”. While on the way to the hotel, Natalee asked if she could see the lighthouse, because she was leaving tomorrow morning, and if they can drive her up there. He drove up to the lighthouse, but didn’t stop because she was drunk. He said she was like, Hey, here I am and then wanted to go back to the hotel.

False Statement #3 – same as #2, but then changes the ending

Satish tells their Mother that they lied because Joran is their friend and they were covering for him. He said that Joran asked us to leave him by the Marriott beach with Natalee and he and Deepak went home.

False Statement #4

In a joint interrogation with Joran, Deepak and Satish, Joran claims that Deepak, Satish and Natalee took him home and while sitting in the car outside the home, he and Natalee exchanged email addresses and say goodbye. Joran goes in his house and Deepak and Satish take Natalee back to the Holiday Inn.
Deepak denies this and states: “Why are you lying, Joran?”

False Statement #5

Joran tells his Mother that he, Natalee, Deepak and Satish went to the “California” lighthouse, then left the lighthouse and went to the "Marriott Hotel" beach. He and Natalee got out of the car and Deepak and Satish drove away. Joran fooled around with Natalee and left her on the beach as she says she wanted to stay there. Joran tells his mother not to worry, because he didn't do anything to the girl.

False Statement #6

Joran breaks down and cries at the prison and tells them “we buried Natalee” to the north of the Marriott Hotel, towards some indistinct area by the fisherman's huts.

False Statement #7

Joran says he has a suspicion of where Deepak buried Natalee. Joran tells the police that after Natalee fell asleep on the “Marriott Hotel” beach, he left her there and walked home. He believes that Deepak went back to the “Marriott Hotel” beach, raped then murdered Natalee, then Deepak buried Natalee near the fishermen’s huts.

False Statement #8 – same as #7, only this time he says they both fell asleep.

Joran claims he had fallen asleep with Natalee on the beach, woke up and then left. Deepak then went back, raped and murdered Natalee and buried her body near a fisherman's hut on the beach.

Now for other statements made by various people...

= Deepak says “SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO NATALEE”

= Paul Vandersloot spoke to the boys soon after Natalee went missing and told them about telling the police the truth, and what would happen if they lied. He also told them if is there is no body, there is no crime.

= Deepak tells Mickey John that they left Carlos'N Charlie's and went straight to the lighthouse. Deepak was driving and Satish was sitting next to him. Natalee was in the backseat behind Deepak, and Joran was in the backseat behind Satish. He said that Joran and Natalee were kissing in the backseat and that she was very, very drunk. He said Natalee wanted to see the Lighthouse so they drove there. Deepak said that on his way back up they stopped ... close to the Marriott and they dropped off Natalee and Joran and he and Satish went home.

Once home, he went on line, and about an hour later, Joran sent him a text message on his cell phone, and that when he got home he'd go on line to chat with him.

Deepak tells Mickey John, that they will be out soon, but Joran would remain because he knows he was the last with her after they dropped Joran and Natalee at the Marriott. Deepak said that he thinks Joran is holding back something, and that the father made up the story. Deepak told him that the family sat at the pool and came up with the lie about the holiday inn.

He said he lied to the police, because normally when tourists come here and they get lost, a few days later they are usually recovered at some crack house or with some beach bums. ... But, when nothing was coming out, he and Satish decided to tell the truth to the police.

= Gardner said he saw Joran driving to a nightclub across the road from the Marriott Hotel around 2:30 a.m. on May 30. He says Joran tried to hide his face with his hands as he drove to the Racquet Club with two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

= Another witness says she saw the car owned by Deepak being in the area near the racquet club, around the homes, 3 times during the night that Natalee disappeared.

= Another witness says Kalpoe brothers were seen washing their car very thoroughly in what was said to be an unusual location near their home. This took place after their initial release from questioning and prior to their arrest. EquuSearch sought to check the area with dogs; however they were turned away by the Mother of Deepak Kalpoe.

= Another witness said he saw Joran driving to a nightclub across the road from the Marriott Hotel around 2:30 a.m. on May 30. He said that Joran tried to hide his face with his hands as he drove to the Racquet Club with two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe

And last but not least... The phone calls/messages...

2:35-2:40 AM - phone call made from Joran phone between 2:35-2:40 AM to Deepak. Joran claims he called him to ask for a ride home. Per Koch, Satish’s attorney, Deepak told Satish that Joran called and said he was walking home and that he left Natalee at the Marriott Hotel beach.

3:15 - 3:20 AM Joran text-message-emails Deepak to tell him he has arrived home safely.

4:00 a.m. Phone record from Joran to Deepak after which Deepak left his home.

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Comments

[silkee]

a cut from birminghamdog "How do you know that these so-called confessions are FACTUAL ? Sounds to me that they are RUMORS and from what source? If it is the editor of the paper then can you really trust him? he has many times come forward with false tips. First it was Natalee was burried at the beach, what hppened to that story? Now he says he has tips that the 3 boys said all these things. I am sorry but this is NOT reporting, it is only passing on RUMOR and Innuendo. I would think that better reprting could be dine, or are you more concerned with web traffic?"

First of all Mansur doesn't have to MAKE UP stuff to sell papers. And Dan doesn't have to MAKE UP stuff because he is concerned with web traffic.

You say "first it was buried at the beach." Has that changed? They're still on the beach. Whether it's a pond on in the sand. And it's not Mansur making up stories the boys have told. They;ve even told their mama they lied.

You seem to have some sort of agenda to try and discount anything and everything of interest that points to guilt. Are you a relative of one of the persons of interest or just a very cynical troll.

You sure are not from Birmingham, maam. That's another ruse and hidden agenda.

[kell]

It has just been reported that Natalie's body had been found. The press is waiting on a official statement from police.

[kell]

IS THIS TRUE?

[birmingham dog]

Silke, I live in 35124, know where that is. And again everyone I know and I know lots of people say the same thngs I say on here. SOme of you people need to wake up and maybe THINK that you dont know everything and there are LOTS of people that think Very Differently than you do. Myself i keep an open mind, some of twist things aournd to serve your agenda. I have an agenda but to preserve the truth, and to follow the law whereever it may be. I dont know any of the individuals, and I am keeping an open mind. My main concern is that whoever is responsible should be prosecuted and that can NOT ahppen with all this rumor and innuendo floating around.
Some of you need to get a life and think rationally. You all fllow this case in an obsessice manner, and when people like me(there ar elots of them) have a different take on the situation you all demonize us. This site is made up of people that think the same way. You all say goodnight and I am cooking dinner now, that is NOT Debate but is Only a CLUB for only 1 side of thought. if you want to live in a wolrd where everyone agrees with your thoughts, then go to mars.

GWD

[John]

Steve Croes supposedly states he doesn't know the 3 boys in the case. Isn't that Steve in the picture with Joran and buddies. Go to http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=899&PN=1

[Thomas N. Morgan]

A night or so ago I heard on TV that Juran had a open account at all the Casinos where he lives.

Why?

To understand this case, we need the big picture. What did Paul Vandersloot do in Holland before he came to Aruba? Did he work at a job? Was he in business? Was he a government employee. Was he reputed to be a wealthy, well-connected person in Holland?

Why did he come to Aruba?

News stories say there is much gambling and drinking in Aruba. Is the government thought of as being corrupt? Or capable of being influenced improperly?

What has Paul Vandersloot been doing during the 11 years he has been in Aruba?

Another Website says Aruba is autonomous with respect to its internal affairs. Yet, judges are appointed by the Crown in Holland. So, does the government of Holland have any interest in this case, other than to assist if asked?

[iwabwu]

Did they find the body? When?

[Bigfish]

Hey Wabbi!

No body, No case.

Grote Vis