A second new witness told a private investigator hired by Holloway's family that she saw van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers drive into the Racquet Club three times that same night. The woman, who lives near the nightclub, has not yet spoken with investigators, he said.


Check Me:
Is your posting serious? Where did you hear this?
Anyone else hear/see this info?
Posted by: concerned parent | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:15 AM
Nothing on the news yet.
Posted by: DennisAOK | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:16 AM
I'm checking all of the usual spots, but none of them mentions this news...I'll gladly eat my words if it's true! I HOPE it's true...
Posted by: ChinbeardXIV | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:17 AM
If someone does not post a source when they say "breaking news," it usually means they are FOS.
Posted by: aphexcoil | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:17 AM
HI - I don't have a TV so if anything is happening please post it here!
Thanks!
Posted by: JMP | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:19 AM
The truth is, there is no definite proof of anything that has been given to the public. so we can only assume and guess.
I believe all three are involved in this crime and there may be someone else that we do not know about. I wonder if there is an older person involved and is masterminding this crime. This crime is just too perfect for these young boys and it makes me suspicious. This is my thoughts and of course not based on evidence since we have nothing that has been given to the public. At some point the other person will be discovered. We shall see.
Posted by: Nikos | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:20 AM
http://www.courttv.com/news/holloway/072705_ap.html
Here's a good article. Police told the family not to watch while the pond wasbeing drained.
Posted by: Alessandra | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:20 AM
I have Fox news on and have not heard anything about finding a body...
Posted by: Cindertaz | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:26 AM
It will be on the news soon. I am having trouble with posting on the blog here...
Kalpoe brothers will be rearrested for murder. Seems that they murdered and buried her. But i could not find where the evidence for this was. So this latter piece of info is still soft.
Posted by: Checkme | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:34 AM
chinbeard sure does like commas, doesn't he
Posted by: slax | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:35 AM
The media has nothing to do with what happened to Natalee, Joran and the Kalpoe bros did.
It's not "knowitallism". It's called REALITY.
I don't need to think outside the box because the media has no bearing on this investigation...NOW! As for what happened that night, there is no reason to think outside the box when you are dealing with a 17 year old, a 19 year old and a 21 year old in desperate need of an alibi and a place to dispose of a body in the course of a couple hours.
checkme - that's not funny at all.
Posted by: Kap | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:39 AM
Just checked Fox MSNBC and AP...no news of body being found. BTW Red from Scared Monkeys is going to Aruba with Equisearch to report live from the "pond" scene. (maybe you all know this already)
Posted by: Bonnie | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:40 AM
Just checked Fox MSNBC and AP...no news of body being found. BTW Red from Scared Monkeys is going to Aruba with Equisearch to report live from the "pond" scene. (maybe you all know this already)
Posted by: Bonnie | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:40 AM
sorry checkme, not buyin it for now.
what is the origin of this information? i think we are all anxious to know..
Posted by: shyne235 | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:49 AM
remember that the press has been kept out of this draining...
Posted by: Checkme | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:52 AM
Can anybody be more of a p**ck than to post false information that a body has been found?
What a tool!
Posted by: Kap | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:53 AM
Just curious Checkme, how did you hear about them finding Natalee? Any more info coming in?
Posted by: JMP | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:56 AM
they had their way in the racquet club
Posted by: hrithik roshan | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:56 AM
that's OK shyne, I have been wrong before but I just want to share the info I get. Let's see what the official words will sound like.
Posted by: Checkme | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:57 AM
Kap, you need to cool off a bit. I have been on this story since day one. I have shared what i know. Stop the name calling and let's together continue looking for the Truth.
Posted by: Checkme | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:00 PM
Info about a body being found is so much BS.
Sounds like a nerd must have posted that info.
Posted by: Nikos | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:00 PM
jmp,
Source has been pretty reliable so far. The stuff about the K's having murdered I cannot seem to get a good fix on.
Posted by: Checkme | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:01 PM
i guess time will tell checkme.
i have friends in aruba who are tennis players, wish i could get them live on the phone for me haha... i get the feeling they already think i am crazy for caring so much about this case.
Posted by: shyne235 | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:02 PM
Thank you Checkme, I will keep checking here for news
Posted by: jmp | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:04 PM
slax-chinbeard's commas are all correctly utilized. Why the comment about them?
Kap-why the anger and name-calling against anyone with whom you do not agree? Perhaps "the jig" is truly "up," or perhaps there is more to the jig than that which we are currently aware. BTW - Susan Candiati on CNN said the other day that there is no actually source of all the "confessions."
Posted by: mariaK | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:05 PM
Who cares if you've been on this since day one? We all have and don't tell me to cool down. If you're right then I'll apologize but don't post information without providing your sources and pawn it off as being news. There are some people here that are emotionally involved either on a personal level or some other level and you posting there's a body without any facts to support it is total hogwash.
Posted by: Kap | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:05 PM
I still do think Joran isn't involved Kap.
Posted by: fokje | July
Joran isn't involved?? How could that
possibly be?? What few FACTS we have on
the case place Natalee with Joran when she
left the bar..and he even admits he was with
her on the beach!!
So how can you say he isn't involved?? I read
some unusual theories on this board..but that
one is probably the most far fetched yet LOL
Posted by: PinkCobrazz | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:11 PM
I DO agree with Kap that no one should be posting information without sources unless it is clearly qualified as opinion only. There is enough misinformation and personal theory quoted as fact already.
Besides, faking "news" about a body is just plain mean!
Posted by: mariaK | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:12 PM
Checkme has always provided excellent tips and peices of info---can't believe this would not be the same
Posted by: moke girl | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:16 PM
Just wondering
What are you going to do when NH has been found? And what will happen to this blog?
Posted by: King of Controversy (Holland) | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:17 PM
@ PinkCobrazz
A fact why Joran could be innocent?
Take a look at NH nails. A srath from those nails would be visable for days, and I dont believe NH let herself killed without a fight.
Posted by: King of Controversy (Holland) | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:24 PM
King,
I think when this is resolved it may hold attention until final sentencing of the perpetrators. Like all high-profile cases - people will eventually lose interest (i.e., Polly Klaas, etc.). Hopefully, if Natalee has been murdered then some new legislation or awareness will come out of this.....maybe travel safety or something. I don't know...hopefully this will not be in vain. I think this blog is strong and many people will return to discuss future cases or issues.
Posted by: Jo | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:26 PM
On scared monkeys the quote reads " Holloways confirm that NO body was found:
Is this the socalled report from UP that is being "miss" quoted?
I still find nothing on news search on anything being found in pond.
Posted by: farmgirl | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:29 PM
Natalee's gift to the world will be to promote awareness of travel safety - especially for young women and especially abroad.
Posted by: DennisAOK | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:31 PM
Queen of Holland - ah, if she were drugged, especially, GHB, which incapicitates (sp?) a person could not fight back.
Even if she was not drugged. It's 3 on 1 and again she couldn't fight back.
BTW, a FACT is not NH's fingernails. LOL. A fact is: Joran and the Kalpoe brothers lied about their whereabouts after being seen leaving with Natalee, what time they all were home and what happened to Natalee. THOSE ARE FACTS.
Don't let your blind loyalty to one of your own cloud your judgement about what is REALITY. I suspect you are a troll.
Posted by: Kap | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:32 PM
Do we know if there is an active sex slave trade working out of venezuela? Has anyone looked into the possiblity that maybe these guys did leave her, but possibly she was taken by a 3rd party because she was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, perhaps in a drugged or alcohol induced state, making her surroundings hazy. I know it sounds far fetched but perhaps scouts from such slave trades come to these islands to pray on those "young teens" who come for such celebrations and have too much fun. Does anyone know of any statistics or stories of such occurances? I know in Cancun, we were told not to stray outside the main strip because of the danger that lurks and the problems with corruption within the police system. Perhaps this is the same for Aruba?
Posted by: Susan | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:36 PM
farmgirl, I can't find on Scared Monkeys where it says "Holloways confirm that no body was found".
I'm just going to their main page though.
Posted by: jmp | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:39 PM
Yes Susan - Check this out!
http://www.state.gov/g/inl/rls/nrcrpt/2005/vol1/html/42363.htm
Posted by: DeltaRio | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:40 PM
Sorry ... wrong link!
http://www.vitalvoices.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?page_id=56
Posted by: DeltaRio | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:42 PM
Check Me:
You would have more credibility if you stated your source of info.
Posted by: Skeptical | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:48 PM
Check Me
I see nothing on any MSM of a body being found.
Posted by: cricket | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:50 PM
BREAKING NEWS...
Seems that they have found the body in the pond
Posted by: Checkme | July 27, 2005 11:05 AM
WHAT is your source Checkme??? Like everyone said.. please do not post things here to gain your sensationlism. We only want the truth here.
Posted by: Sarah#1 | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:52 PM
Check Me -
What is your source?
Posted by: curious | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:53 PM
I have checked all major news sources and there is nothing about a body being found. NOTHING-ZERO!! Someone is just trying to be a psychic. Strange! Maybe wants attention.
Posted by: Nikos | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:53 PM
I also cannot locate any info on the Holloways statement that a body has NOT been found....Like jmp I could not locate any such info on Scared Monkeys.
Posted by: curious | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:56 PM
Question- if the three boys were at the raquet club between 2:30 & 3:00 and home to email with eachother after 3:00... how does this explain the phone call ("Are you calling home?") that Beth received around 4 on her cell which she has said had the same noises as in the background as she heard at the VDS house the night she arrived and showed up there in the night? If they put her in the pond or disposed of the body prior to 3-- this contradicts this phone thing. Any thoughts on this anyone?
Posted by: sarah | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 12:59 PM
Kap...I agree with you about facts--let's not use sensationalized headlines (i.e. body found, etc.)in lieu of facts. The facts in the case (so far as we know) are simple:
1. Natalee Holloway is missing.
2. Joran van der Sloot admits to being alone with her on the beach.
3. Van der Sloot has changed his story numerous times.
4. The Kalpoe brothers have also changed their story(ies) at least once.
If there are more facts--public facts--please let me know.
Thanks!
P.S. I appreciate proper grammar and punctuation, so thanks for noticing!
Posted by: ChinbeardXIV | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 01:00 PM
Sarah,
I did not know that Beth got a call. No one can trace who the call was from? I thought Natalee left her cell phone in the room? This is so baffling.....maybe they did trace and are not exposing?
Posted by: jo | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 01:01 PM
Is CheckMe the same person that posted awhile back that Joran had committed suicide?
Posted by: Shocked and Appalled | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 01:03 PM
curious--what a foolish statement. You cannot follow something because it is Not found! Might as well say anything then. All it does is add to the confusion. To make a statement that a body has been found is irresponsible. Wht are you a fortune teller?
Posted by: Nikos | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 01:03 PM