Natalee Holloway: Was She Raped And Murdered By Deepak Kalpoe?

As first mentioned in How Did Natalee Holloway Leave Carlos and Charlies, RWV has obtained exclusive, credible information as regards events surrounding the Mountain Brook Aruba trip in general, as well as specific events at Carlos and Charlies the night of Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

Diario Editor, Jossy Mansur, tonight on Fox News stated that in earlier testimony suspect Joran Van der Sloot claimed that Deepak Kalpoe raped and murdered Natalee Holloway and buried her body near a fisherman's hut on the beach. Van der Sloot is said to have claimed he had fallen asleep with Natalee on the beach, woke up and then left. He also is reported to have alleged that Deepak Kalpoe then went back, raped and murdered the young girl.

In a report from a student in attendance on the trip, this does match with certain information gathered during my reporting. It was stated to me that Joran, far from being an antagonist, was much more laid back in his interactions with the young Americans on the trip - and it was actually Deepak Kalpoe who was much more "in your face."

As already reported, at least one confrontation on the trip the night before the group's last evening in Aruba did not involve Joran Van der Sloot and a Mountain Brook student; instead, the confrontation was between Deepak Kalpoe and a student from the Alabama high school.

In addition to that, I have been told that, as reported elsewhere, the notion that Joran Van der Sloot "hit on" Natalee twice and was rebuffed was "ridiculous." Natalee, along with some other Mountain Brook girls was rather taken with the young Dutch boy and it should have come as no surprise to anyone that they might have wound up together in some fashion at the end of the evening.

The same cannot be said for Deepak Kalpoe - in fact, just the opposite. According to a student on the trip, Deepak Kalpoe appeared to be quite attracted to the young blond girl from Alabama, who did not return the attraction and was far more interested in Joran.

Also as previously reported in story above, I've been informed that Natalee Holloway did not leave the front of Carlos and Charlies with Joran Van der Sloot, she was seen leaving with Deepak Kalpoe by, perhaps, the last known Mountain Brook student to see her alive. The report comes from one of the students inside of one of the now infamous taxi cabs into which other friends of Natalee thought she would enter to return to her hotel and safety.

While this last piece is speculative at best, based upon what I have learned, it is entirely possible that Deepak Kalpoe used Joran Van der Sloot as bait to get Natalee away from her friends. If Van der Sloot, the Kalpoes and Natalee all met up either around the corner, or on the beach, it would jibe with the information I have obtained.

Based upon gathered information speaking directly to the then existing dynamics between the young men and Natalee Holloway, I found the version of events attributed to Joran Van der Sloot and related by Jossy Mansur on Fox News tonight to be possibly the most credible version of events that night I've heard to date.

Update: Another point, as I reported here weeks ago, additional information from Aruba pointed to an eyewitness who saw both Kalpoe brothers thoroughly washing out their vehicle at a location beside their home which was termed "unusual." It was suggested the location was not the normal one they used and would help to obscure any view of their efforts from the street. This took place after their initial release from questioning and prior to their arrest.

When, based upon discussions I had with individuals close to the search party, EquuSearch sought to check the area with dogs, they were turned away by the Mother of Deepak Kalpoe.

This post is also available at Blogger News Network.

Comments

[pamy]

Why is joran helping the kalpoes. what hold do they have over him? why would he get involved in covering a murder he did not do? are these guys his best friends? even then you dont help your best friends, you turn them in. they must have threatened him about something or they all did it together.

[Lone War Eagle]

Calista,

Good observation.

Kind of makes you ask why, doesn't it? Why the wild goose chase always? Why doesn't the picture everybody is looking at fit?

Because it is not the right theory. The Dan In Tx guy has it----she was abducted IMHO.

Hopefully, she will be returned alive with the $1M reward offered today.

Lone War Eagle

[speaker]

thanks wstcoast..i knew i heard maternal mother correctly, just the wrong deepak...many thanks!!

[calista]

calista-

i have been repeatedly asking why is everyone sticking to this 3:00 or 2:30 or 4:00 time frame? no one is giving me an answer....everyone is repeating this time yet no one says why? why did she have to disappear in that time frame?...why can't she be holed up in that house?...i'm curious, who says that phone call that she made if she did, had to be her terminal hr..??
peace to the world

Posted by: speaker | July 25, 2005 11:50 PM

I odn't know about that speaker but I do know this "witness" is asaying he saw them at 3am so how is all that possible for joran to leave cnc's with her at 1 30 am and get to beach sleep go home and deepak go back to beach rape natalee and hten they all end up in car tiogether by 3?

[terps]

why would joran just leave a sleeping natalee on the beach alone and not even offer her a ride?

Posted by: calista
--------

It's a good theory, Dan, but I agree with calista.

Or, it's only part of the story. Joran must be guilty as well, or he would have turned on Depak and stuck with the story. The fact that Joran was more desirable is a pretty flimsy reason for deeming him less likely to be the aggressor.

[calista]

it does eem quite odd on the same day they report a witness knows where natalees body is her parents up the reward to one million for her SAFE return - it seems they believe strongly she is alive

[!]

I can not just jump on this story and any other that has been told to this point and assume it may be true. So many lies have been told by so many that its really hard to tell who did what !
Joran has told 14 different stories as I recall and the two brothers only two stories that were different. Who knows at this point. We will see.
I have waited this long, so a bit longer will not hurt.
Another thing to point out is this, its a fact that Joran's dad talked to at least one brother and Joran at Joran's house about getting there stories straight and not talking to the police about anything. The father knows a hell of a lot more than he has told. I feel that strongly.

Somewhere out there is the "real" truth. !!
We will see.

[chance]

Posted this on the wrong page,

Hmmmm. Well, if they all claimed to have sex with her, where does Satish or whatever his name is fit in? Was Deepak alone with her at the time? Did Joran message Deepak while Deepak was at home saying she passed out and he left her? Would Deepak then think "hey maybe she is still there!" and then drive back? Who disposed of the body? How could Joran be so cold and uncaring for her if she liked him and he was not invoolved? That would torture any normal persons conscience.

And what about Steve Croes? More hmmmmmm's.

I think there is more to it than a jealous little Deepak, although I believe there is truth to what Dan has said. I also really doubt all of this took place on the beach. It is Aruba after all, I would think that any time of the night or day you would run a big risk of someone walking by.

[Jessie]

Some are fond of citing the probable myth of Joran's 14 different stories. Most likely just another media myth about this case.

[Lesli]

I have thought about it all day. The fact that parents would offer this kind of reward all of a sudden almost 2 months later is bizarre. Bizarre is an understatement. Something is driving them to believe that girl is alive besides hope. I HOPE they are right. Everyone say your prayers tonight that if there is a horrible coward holding her somewhere, he will grow some cajones and give up Natalee.

[pamy]

Hi, Lone War Eagle! I agree with you. Or at least the three of them did this together, what ever it was, having sex, handing her over, being there when she died. Joran's dad would not help the kalpoe kids if his son was not involved just as much as they were.

[Deborah]

I agree Dan...100% With your comments....I have thought the same thing for a while now...Good Work...

[Lesli]

Amen, Pami. That man wouldn't do shit for those boys.

[professor]

Nah. I say all three were with her to the end.

Why? Because all three knew that "something bad" had happened to her.

And the sighting at 2:30-3am was of a "party in progress."

I think it was planned as a threesome (foursome?)from the start. Otherwise, there is no explanation for having Deepak and Satish along.

Natalee woke up too early and was strangled.

She did not OD.

She was murdered.

[Lone War Eagle]

Pamy,

Yep! That has to be it. She is alive and the $$ is the bait.

Let's see what kind of fish takes it. I bet there were some big ones frequenting that tennis club down there at times.....probably the drop-off or something.

I am not saying the JVDS or PVDS or Kapoks are innocent--just partners in the crime and handed off to the big fish. Then, they have to be silent or the big fish will come swimming back to the island for a feeding frenzy once the media party goes home for the Fall, IMHO.

Lone War Eagle

[speaker]

me dont buy the story her life terminated that night....these time frames are not enough time for her to go ....if she did meet her demise in that time frame then; a) she was done away with in slooths house, body disposed next day or another day...body not dipsosed of that night...not enough time...unless it is on my b plan theory.
b) on the tatoo and croes do know something more than he is telling, and if there was a party then it was a private party on the -tatoo as in staff dj croes, joran and kalpoes, possible some from clowns and charlies....

as for diario and their propaganda with manusr inhaling and exhaling he is late in the game coming forth with all he knew...unless he did buy the inside info...and keep in mind someone on the inside does know all what happened...peace to the world

[Matt]

Hi Dan
You do great work here but your scenario today is just bullcrap unfortunately-on the basis of what Jossy said on one evening?? Need a lot more than that unfortunately...

[NewYawkGirl]

maybe, just maybe joren is in jail (not prison like the brothers were sent to prior to their release) for his own protection!!! This is getting more interesting and complex

[just00me]

What if she was drugged at cnc's her and joran went to the beach(him not knowing she was drugged) and she passes out/overdoses and he thinks she just wont wake up.And then calls deepak and told him what happened and he says show me and thats when something bad happened.

[speaker]

-matt-

although i do not believe mansurs frenzy all of a sudden and his witness.. just because i dont agree with another on this blog, i would not call their theory bullcrap...i think dan is allowed to specualte and have a theory, just like you and i...peace to the world..

[Lone War Eagle]

No just00me,

What is Deepak was the 'go-between' as in drug dealer, dealer contact for the trade or sell of NH to the big fish at the tennis club?

It makes sense--I saw here where he was a known dealer or source. Joran was the gambler. They left with her drugged-they did their 'deeds,' wound up at the tennis club for the drop, she wakes up and calls on the cell, etc., etc.

Lone War Eagle

[wreck]

I odn't know about that speaker but I do know this "witness" is asaying he saw them at 3am so how is all that possible for joran to leave cnc's with her at 1 30 am and get to beach sleep go home and deepak go back to beach rape natalee and hten they all end up in car tiogether by 3?

Posted by: calista | July 25, 2005 11:52 PM

That is my question as well. If the "witness" is at all credible -- you have to infer that all 3 boys are culpable in some way. I hate to say it, but Dan's scenario suggests that perhaps these 3 boys were involved in some plot to trick Natalee into leaving C & C. They delivered her to kidnappers ( possibly meeting them at the racket club.) This scenario goes along with "no body - no crime" statement from PVDS.

[KarlosFandango]

In several pictures Deepak is wearing a ring (on his right hand if memory serves). If he did indeed beat poor NH that night, the ring would certainly pick up blood/tissue/dna. Does he still wear the ring?

Now I am off to bed for sure. If anyone has time take a look at some pics in case I am smoking crack. Laters...

[Lone War Eagle]

Wreck,

That HAS to be it. It also explains the reward of $1M today.

Lone War Eagle

[DennisAOK]

A couple of points.

We do know from the cell phone records that all three boys were home by 4am, but that Deepak went back out.

We don't yet know how credible the new witness is.

Steve Croes could still have been the ultimate body disposal man, with access to a small boat. He is just dumb enough to try to corroborate what turned out to be a stale story. I wonder if he would spill the beans for $100k.

[pamy]

lone war eagle

remember how the twitty's kept saying that when we find out what really happened we will all be shocked? well, dan's story is not shocking.

somebody big has to be involved.

[NewYawkGirl]

true dennisaok.. wasnt it depak that worked with that bastard?

[Jessie]

At this time the LE likely knows exactly which cell phone towers each of the two boys cell phones were in contact for the entire time between 1 am and 6 am the morning NH went missing.
That will tell much of the story that none of us really know.

[wreck]

Wreck,

That HAS to be it. It also explains the reward of $1M today.

Lone War Eagle

Posted by: Lone War Eagle | July 26, 2005 12:14 AM

LOL -- It doesn't HAVE to be that! But, I do think you still need to put ALL 3 boys into some mix of culpability whether it be murder kidnapping or cover-up of said crime.

[just00me]

Wreck,
Then how does the grave they found where Tim Miller said she had been moved from come to play in your scenario

[LetsHelp]

Professor,

I agree, if Jossy's information on Joran accusing Deepak of murder then Natalee was murdered...you are probably correct, she woke up when it was Deepaks' 'turn' and he probably is the one who killed her...

I still can't see why they have only Joran in jail though.....

[DennisAOK]

I have thought about it all day. The fact that parents would offer this kind of reward all of a sudden almost 2 months later is bizarre. Bizarre is an understatement. Something is driving them to believe that girl is alive besides hope. I HOPE they are right. Everyone say your prayers tonight that if there is a horrible coward holding her somewhere, he will grow some cajones and give up Natalee.

Posted by: Lesli | July 26, 2005 12:01 AM

Lesli,

The reward amount is a function of fund raising. Some larger donors have stepped up.

[wreck]

Wreck,
Then how does the grave they found where Tim Miller said she had been moved from come to play in your scenario

Posted by: just00me | July 26, 2005 12:19 AM

See above ^^^^ your own post!

[pamy]

i agree with wreck and lone war eagle.

[lrgarcia]

NATALEE SPEAKS
From The Grave

I heard her speak
As clearly as can be
And then I heard her say
I am Natalee.

She began to tell me
About her last night
And how she met these men
But she had no fright, she trusted them.

Some of her friends were there
But too many people she said.
She met Jorie, and he brought her a drink,
And offered to take her anywhere.

She got up to dance
In the nightclub
And felt her head spin
And her mind was mixed up.

She spoke again in a whisper
And said, I know I cannot prove
The drink I had was bad
And if my mom knew, she would be sad

Deepak grabbed my arm
To take me to my hotel
And instead he said
I did not look well.

We drove to a beach,
We rolled the windows down
ButI was so drugged
That I was falling down.

Joran then told me
That he and his friends
Had heard about american women
Were free with their sex
And wanted to know the truth.

No, Natalie said.
I don't want to have sex.
But, I do not feel good
I don't know what to do.

Joran told her that he knew
Of a place where they could go
And the three men had gone
And took Natalee away.

Then Natalee said,
I have been killed
On a beach not far away
But where I cannot say.
I do not know my way

What should i do?
She asked Deepak again,
He gave her no reply
But a fist to her lip

He demanded she show him the way
To be an american whore
The men, all three, took and took it from her.
They raped and beat her.

Even when she refused
But no one could tell
That she had lost her life
To men she thought she knew.

In her death, I heard her speak,
But this time soft and sweet
To my mom, I want to say
I was good and I told them no
I did not want to have sex.

But they took it anyway
What could I say?
What could I do
There were three of them,

I could not tell them no
They forced me to show them the way.
Another blow to my face
My lips were bleeding

And when Deepak hit
the left side of my head
with a crowbar,
That's when I died.
Joran held me in his arms
And told me he was sorry

Deepak said goodbye Natalie.
His brother, had nothing to say
But was afraid of getting caught.
Joran told me goodbye Natalie
it has been fun and I am sorry,
we have to do this
to keep anyone from finding out.

And placed my body in a sandy grave,
And now I wait to see
When the world will care enough
To come and find me

I am right here in aruba
Buried in the sand
Waiting patiently
Near where the seagulls go
to nest.

Please have your investigators check here..

The Aruba Ship Wreck
In the shallow waters a few hundred yards off the coast of Aruba, the wreckage of the German freighter Antilla can be found. The tip of the mast and a portion of the bridge protrude from the ocean to this day, like two artificial island from steel and serve as a welcome resting place for seagulls and pelicans.

[DennisAOK]

Professor,

Joran needed a car.

[just00me]

Lone War Eagle,
Your theory makes sense maybe JVDS and PVDS were in debt up to there eyeballs and Deepak provided a way to get them out of it by selling her to the BIG FISH after the three of them had there way with them and everbody is scared that heads will roll(literally)if they talk.

[annie]

I think there are half truths in all the different lies that have been told and at a minimum Deepak and Joran are in deeper than either are willing to admit. I think both raped her (since we have already heard Joran tell friends he had "sex" with Natalee) and Deepak raped her. I am not sure what happened, but I am certain PVS would not allow his son to be taking the fall for Deepak under any circumstance. He knows what went on, he knows his son was involved and in all liklihood he is involved. No something is definitely not right with it only being Deepak that did the dirty deed. Clearly there is more there and Joran is definitely a party to all of this.

I do believe Deepak being more of a control freak, but as far as Joran being laid back, I am not certain that wasn't all part of an act. I think Joran is likely very intelligent and I can see him being "brains" behind things. I think they are both "alpha" males and that is why I am surprised they are/were friends. It seems more likely they were "business associates" that made money off drugs and gambling and made setups to daterape girls. It does explain why the Kalpoe boys are freaked about the FBI getting the testimonies though, doesn't it? ;-)

So I guess I can see parts of what Dan's scenario outlines to be half-true, but there are other components definitely missing. The key is PVS IMO and I suspect he was involved in the final circumstance surrounding Natalee.

[LetsHelp]

If Joran accused Deepak of murder and rape, why is Joran the one in jail?

Maybe its the Kalpoes who have the real pull here...they've got the criminal pull and van der Sloot has the LE connections?

I just don't get why Deepak is not in jail if Joran accused him of rape and murder?

I think they all raped her....maybe she woke up when it was Deepak, freaked out and he hit her or strangled her.

[oneyka]

I think they all did it. All three of them. And they all are covering up for each other, and if Deepak did it, why Joran is not speaking up? Because all three had a hand it what happened that night.

[Nobody]

And did you know what is the sad part of all this... the IMBECILE "smart" minds who - during the last two months - always "pointed" to JVS in an effort to (and this is the real sad part) wash the almost public LIES.

Fortunately some people has the time and patience to keep "walking" against the general STUPIDITY of the "bright" minds. I don't.

I leaved the ZOO almost one month ago but in a brief visit today I'm impressed because I saw some plausible and well constructed theories not so attacked by the PURITAN terrorists as in the first days... but they're still there!

When and if they leave then maybe we could see - finaly - all the truth.

[oneyka]

Dennisaok:
Its COJONES, not cajones, cajones mean drawers, like a chest of drawers.

[Jessie]

For those that are still hanging on to "they all did it and PVDS was involved in getting rid of the body theory" or the "she was kidnapped theory", IMO those need to get their heads out of on another's ass and get some fresh air.

[RealPotential]

It makes total sense. I think you may have nailed it Dan! Great detective work! :)

I can't wait to see that little ***** squirm.
Now where is her body?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What's this about a spanking , Belle???

[annie]

Jessie - why is that? DO you honestly think PVS would let Joran sit there in detainment if he knew his son was innocent and that Deepak was the only guilty party? How do you explain him continuing to be involved in Deepak's legal counsel and continuing to support Deepak? There is something not right. So why should we not continue to believe that at least Joran, Deepak and (if nothing else but as an accessory) PVS are involved? Why call us names when you don't offer a logical response to help us understand?

[willo]

Following up on the "Joran as bait" theory.... If Deepak was more aggressively interested in NH. and we've seen that Joran fancied himself as a gansta/pimp, maybe he agreed to lure girls for Deepak, in exchange for something? Drugs involved in this scenario?

[Cindi in PA]

You also need to remember Joran was probably drunk too..... so if she said leave me alone, him being drunk probably said, fine... got up and left..

Posted by: *SouthernBELLE* | July 25, 2005 11:39 PM

Belle, I have had that happen more than once...lol.

The more witnesses that come forward the more complex this case gets. I think, either way you look at it, all three are involved. But what of the fathers involvement?

Good story over at SM, they did an interview yesterday with Tim Miller from Equa search, worth the read, if nobody else has posted the link...and if they did, sorry to repeat it....

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1319#more-1319

[Iamcanadian]

Jeez,
Funny how things goes eh? Joran totally guilty, now the trip is Deepak. What goes? The witnesses? Everyone from the original Dan blog shows that, totally unequivically agreed that Joran was the culprit, now I read that everyones views has changed? what up with that! Perfectly honest I really do know what to believe, at all! I sincerely hope the girl is alive, because thats what i want, but in this age do you think that this is possible.

[Pearl]

Waw,

I'm agree with you Iamcanadian, what happend around here, that's why i say you guys are speculate to much! mafia, colombia, venezuela, prostitution and now DEEPAK. Wel i'm from Aruba and in my opinion Joran is the one. But no body no crime!!!.

[JustMe]

This is starting to make sense. Good Lord don't ask me where I read it because it was too long ago, but according to someone JVDS told a jailmate that he thought the Brothers Kalpoe were trying to frame him.

After reading your post, Dan, it appears to me that there might be a reason for JVDS to lie to the police. I have not yet figured out what that reason is. Maybe because he is an accessory after the fact.