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It appears there is a witness who claims he knows where the body of Natalee is buried, and that Joran claims Deepak Kalpoe raped and murdered Natalee on the beach (Video link). [Read More]

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Dan!!! I completely agree with you. Great work!!!

Hah! I knew it! Now may I have my spankin?

you might be onto something Dan-O

be sure and see update just added

ANd sure Belle - bend over, babe! ; )

This is crazy , then why Joran is yet in jail and Deepak at large ?

why would joran just leave a sleeping natalee on the beach alone and not even offer her a ride?

and why would deepak go back and rape her and kill her? was he just waiting for joran to leave? it makes no sense I mean why is Joran still in jail then?

why all the car washing?

Joran woke up then left and Deepak went back and raped and murdered her? I wonder from where did Deepak go back and how Joran knows that unless he went back with him. Could Deepak have told this to Joran? I wonder why Deepak would confess to Joran. Many more questions than answers raised by this latest account.

Yet Joran remains the only one still in jail and Deepak is free, even to leave the island should he chose to do so. I will never understand this tragedy.

Maybe he didn't rape her on the beach, maybe he got there and offered her a ride back, and thats when it happened...

Joran may not be all the monster many on here have made him out to be; I'd say Deepak better get ready for some company to come a calling......but why would Joran keep protecting Deepak at his own expense. It seems that recovery of the body could help confirm Joran's story if indeed it was Deepak who did the deed; of course I guess conspiracy is a crime in Aruba too.........

If all of this is true it is so sad. If Natalee was showing an interest in Joran and he would allow her body to be discarded like that really shows him as a monster. I find it hard anyone could be that uncaring. Can you imagine sitting in a cell alone knowing that someone who cared even a little for you was treated that way? These guys are cold man. There is something seriously wrong with them.

Also, what about all the cryptic stuff that has been mentioned by so many in this case - "when the truth comes out it will shock everyone" and what not? Is there more to be told?

When I saw the images and music video on this site, my heart felt that joran couldnt of done it. something in his eyes, he has kind eyes. not like deepak kalpoe. who knows though??

why all the car washing?

Posted by: *SouthernBELLE* | July 25, 2005 11:23 PM

Something bad happened in their car.

Anna, he called or text deepak when he got home. Thats how he would have known that she was alone.

so if joran left her there where did he go? home? and why then ius a witness reportuing him in the car with the kalpoes at 3am? this is all so confusing...I odn't understand at all.....

By the hand of jossy Mansur you all just will go in the craziest spiral of the never ending land.

DIARIO ONLY WRITES BS !!

Okay, I am following -- and this looks promising! This fits airam's theory tonight, but I am not clear on how the "new witness" tonight fits in. Why (if the witness is legitimate) did the three end up back together at the racquett club at 2 AM?
Did dumbass Joran decide to go back and invole himself deeper in Deepak's crime??

this all seems entirely possible, but if joran truly had no bad intentions for natalee as this timeline of events would suggest, why would he leave her on the beach by herself? or at the very least, wake her to tell her he has to/wants to leave. thats about the only thing that doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense out of an otherwise very strong timeline.

Maybe he didn't rape her on the beach, maybe he got there and offered her a ride back, and thats when it happened...

Posted by: airam | July 25, 2005 11:24 PM

That's why all the car washing.

if the new witness is credible then where was natalee at 230-45 am when joran was seen driving the cow=poe car near the tennis club? perhaps that explains why joran is still lying; he was part of the conspiracy..

airam

interesting catch on the text messages. wasnt there a report that one or both of the kalpoes returned home and then left later that night?

I agree, it is confusing, because we don't know the actual facts they have on the case. I think the only thing we can do is look at all there stories and try to find some truth in them. What if Joran left her, maybe he tried to wake her and thats when she said "leave me alone", (as stated in the holiday in story). So, he leaves, goes home tells deepak he left her. Deepak goes back gives her a ride, then "something bad happens" and so on...

If we take a part of each of their stories I bet their is some truth in them.

Complex Brian, that's what is being said. Something about him leaving his house... don't remember exactly where it was I heard that though.

this could also explain why the kalpoes freaked out when joran caved in and talked about burying her and may also be why he is no longer talking as he was an accomplice to her disposal?

Yep - I really think he plays a big part in this.

Dan... you kept me up late!!! :)

itd be interesting to see what kind of route you would take from the beach to where that original claim was of where they buried her and if in between that route the racquet club is located. or the same with the where that empty grave is.

Jossy's story about Joran's declaration seemed to contradict the gardener's story and I thought the point was that once again, all three boys were lying about what happened that evening. Are we to assume that the Kalpoes waited for Joran and Natalee at the Marriott beach? Possibly, however, the suspicious behavior at 2:30 AM tells me that they were all in on the crime. If the witness is credible, one or both of the brothers will be back in jail very soon.

Did I miss something? Jossy's sometimes hard to understand.

You also need to remember Joran was probably drunk too..... so if she said leave me alone, him being drunk probably said, fine... got up and left..

I saw a few maps from a site that had the Aruba white pages. I will see if I can get them tomorrow and send the link. I have to go to bed now... :( I hate work!!!

Yeah it kind of makes sense, think about it, if Joran didn't kill her but knows that Deepak did, the Dad might have felt somewhat able to justify sheltering his son from guilt. And yet spilling the beans on Deepak will make his son have to deal with possible accompliss charges etc.

If this is true about Deepak, why was he set free because of lack of evidence and Joran is still in prison? Joran the stud falling asleep with a girl on the beach. I dont think so.

then why the meeting at the sloots home?
what was that all about....if deepak did the deed why would he all meet at paulus house next day?

how would deepak know when to go to the beach, if joran left?....too many variables here...

by the way do not flame me...one night last week --larry king live- at the end said and to conclude all this we also got news that -deepaks maternal mother died today in india...and she was a very admirable woman and well recognized in india, since she founded an orphanage or something like a charity in india...i'm almost sure larry meant to say maternal grandmother, unless its the other way around they have a step mom not step dad...correct me if i erred please...

this is too confusing I am lost......if this was reported in jorans early confession why is he the only one in jail? it seems too odd joran would just leave natalee on the beach alone

if carlos n charlies closes at 1 30 am and that is when natalee left with them how could there be time for joran to go to beach with natalee, sleep, leave her there, walk home, text deepak, and then deepak go back, rape and kill natalee, hide her then go back and get joran and satish for the witness account to be true that he saw them at 3 am??? maks no sense

This theory is too awkward!

Dan--what if they were taking NH to a rave party at the racquet club? What if that was the drop-off site, to whomever has NH?

Don't you think it is odd they picked that place to be near where the new witness placed them?

ABDUCTION.....then they all have to protect each other from whoever got her. Otherwise, more cut-off heads start to appear on the island :-O

Lone War Eagle

Well now, isn't that interesting. But I wonder who is the mistaken witness here. The fishermen on the beach or the fellow that drove by the Kalpoe car and was able to see who was in that car at about 2:45 am.?

if carlos n charlies closes at 1 30 am and that is when natalee left with them how could there be time for joran to go to beach with natalee, sleep, leave her there, walk home, text deepak, and then deepak go back, rape and kill natalee, hide her then go back and get joran and satish for the witness account to be true that he saw them at 3 am??? maks no sense

Posted by: calista | July 25, 2005 11:44 PM

I agree that they are all in it together but possibly not equally guilty. If they were all back in jail, I am confident one of them will talk, considering the new eyewitnesses and the involvement of the FBI.

where is the confessions if they are true then that they had sex with her...so joran has sex, falls asleep wakes up, goes home...deepak comes for his piece after watching from around the corner? has his turn and does the deed...joran goes home, sleeps well, and brags in school next day she drowned....

yes, and i was the pope and now i'm a judge, and next i will be the president...they know how to tell stories, they should all become fiction writers..yes, then natalee will show up from some crack house, and joran will kick her a$$ in front of beth...yes, play that violin again give me a c note dude..

it would be more believeable that joran or whoever drugged natalee in her drink at cnc's and then they all raped her at beach or in car and then either she dies accidentally from drug or they killed her but deepak doing it alone makes no sense

Calista,

Right--just doesn't fit. Too complex. Keep it simple, students.

I don't believe a thing out of the Dairyo news or from Jossy, the "money man."

BTW, doesn't Jossy still own Interbank?

Lone War Eagle

Calista, you bring up a good point. I think that all three were on their way to Joran's house to ask PVDS his advise as to how to dispose of a dead body!

what a mess.....who knows if these new witnesses are even real anymore.....everything in this case just leads to more and more confusion and dead ends

Sure, he Dickpack probably could've done the raping and killing, but I seriously doubt that Urine would even consider messing a hair to save the ass of the Dickpack. Hell no. Something else happened there. Oh sure..."nighty night, Natalee. See ya in the morn." My ass...

Didn't someone indicate that the beaches are full of people even late at night? So how could this all have occured on the beach. And how did Joran end up in the car later according to this new witness? The only thing that would make sense is that Joran was aware of Deepok's intentions to have his way with Natalee which then ended up with him murdering her as well.

Media reports have lead the interested public to believe that Joran called Deepak at abt 2:40 am on his cell phone and then at abt 3:20 am sent Deepak a text message. I wonder if any of that was verfied by LE before that bit of information was given to the media. If this is just what Deepak was saying, it is not worth the paper and ink it took to print the story, or the air it took for the TV talking head to say those words.

The "Deepak" that Larry King was talking about was "Deepak Chopra" ... absolutely no relation to Deepak the teen in Aruba. Deepak Chopra's mother had passed away in India.

-calista-

i have been repeatedly asking why is everyone sticking to this 3:00 or 2:30 or 4:00 time frame? no one is giving me an answer....everyone is repeating this time yet no one says why? why did she have to disappear in that time frame?...why can't she be holed up in that house?...i'm curious, who says that phone call that she made if she did, had to be her terminal hr..??
peace to the world

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