Natalee Holloway And Joran Van der Sloot Captured On Film At Carlos And Charlies

I received a tip that there was a picture showing Joran Van der Sloot inside Carlos and Charlies on the night of Natalee Holloway's disappearance. That image seemed clear; however after an initial review of the pictures, it now appears that a tourist with a camera may have captured the last known image of Natalee Holloway, as well.

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Though time and date stamped and captioned suggesting one of the images may be Natalee, I had my doubts as regards any of the pictures being legitimate. But further inspection suggests they are, indeed, genuine.

The image below is obviously of Joran Van der Sloot in his favorite light plaid shirt. The image is stamped at 12:30 AM on the night of Natalee's disappearance and was taken inside of Carlos and Charlies. A second image, possibly of Natalee Holloway is much more difficult to make out. Along with the tourist suggesting the blonde girl in sun glasses standing by the door was Natalee Holloway, there's an additional factor which leads me to believe that may be the case.

Natalee was:

Last seen wearing: ... a denim knee length skirt, a teal green halter top and brown flip-flops.

That is the outfit she has on in the AP/Beth Twitty credited picture above. Below is the caption:

Natalee Holloway, left, poses with friends Lee Broughton, Madison Whatley, and Ruth McVay, left to right, in a photograph taken with Natalee's disposable camera on the beach in Aruba, May 29, 2005, hours before she disappeared. (Photo: AP/Beth Twitty)

When you enlarge the picture taken at 12:23 AM of a young woman standing in the doorway, it becomes clear by examining the palette that the top is of a green color matching the top Natalee Holloway is said to have been wearing that evening.

In his recap, the tourist describes her as "The tall blond girl standing at the doorway in the background/she has sunglasses on."

Still doubting the images, I started to examine them more closely. If you look at the tall narrow image (left bottom), it seems fairly clear that the outfit of a girl standing just barely within the camera frame matches that of Lee Broughton, also pictured in the image at the beach with Natalee Holloway and her friends.

It was that which made me feel more comfortable that these pictures were, in fact, taken inside Carlos and Charlies on the night of Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

Combining all of the above, it is possible to at least consider the notion that the murky image in the background of a picture from a tourist snapping pictures inside Carlos and Charlies the evening Natalee Holloway disappeared may represent the last known image of the young girl alive.

UPDATE: I didn't even see it, a commenter has pointed it out - but that is indeed likely to be Natalee Holloway leaning down from up on the bar. I initially thought the one girl had her arm in the air, closer inspection shows that to not be the case.

Comments

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

excuse me.... Beeker not Bleeker

[Dax]

If the kids cameras were taken by FBI or Twitty people as they came off the plane, then surely that's why we haven't seen any pix surfacing. This is great that an independent tourista has gotten them to Dan!

Dan - Nice scoop indeed, and it didn't work out the way you thought!! Doorway girl is doubtful that it is NH ... but the Bar dancing is definite.

[Sandy]

I wasn't saying that wasn't Joran. I was just wondering whether it was actually taken that night. It's not like he hasn't been to C&C before, and while wearing that hideous shirt as well. ;-) How many photos of him are in the background of tourists' photos from around the globe?

Case in point:
http://gallery.magic965.com/displayimage.php?album=197&pos=66
Joran on the bar at C&C, in his ONE shirt.

But anyway, the pics of Natalee dancing on the bar look accurate as to that night. Kinda makes you wonder what kind of pics her friends took that the FBI has (that we'll never see)...

[Sgt.Sally]

there was a report that there was a pix of NH and JVDS at Cnc's on the CnC web site before it got crashed\taken down.

[Anna]

Now the girl Joran is dancing with in Sandy's pic IS tall. But the guy at the bar in front of Natalee the shirt is a different pattern.

[Anna]

Any more?

[hardyandtiny]

Anna
It looks like the guy at the bar is the guy in front of Joran in the pic of Joran, but it doesn't really matter much. It's just some guy.

[(((AG)))]

Case in point:
http://gallery.magic965.com/displayimage.php?album=197&pos=66
Joran on the bar at C&C, in his ONE shirt.

Posted by: Sandy | July 22, 2005 03:35 AM

Is this picture the same night or another night? Now, is that Deepak in the foreground?

[Anna]

gallowaygirl, it that the Beeker at the bar?

[Anna]

No, again, shirt is different pattern.

Well intersting.

Have to go feed my puppies, litter of five yorkies then to sleep if no more pics tonight.
They look so pretty and like they re having fun.

[effra]

Are we supposed to believe that, in the pic with Joran in his plaid shirt, Natalee Holloway is the "thing" with dark, dark hair with sunglasses over the hair?

Although Greta's show tonight proved that Natalee is not a natural blonde, I don't buy that this thing with dark hair is Natalee. That's the Addams' family's Cousin Itt, not Natalee Holloway!

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

Anna -

Looks like Beeker to me...check out Deepak's tickle account. Beeker pics show him with longer hair, but face shape, nose, eyes/brows are the same.

[Anna]

I did remember Joran's hair as being longer in the other photos at that time. But it also looks weird like hair plugs or something. This does not have them like the other photos taken at that time.

Can guys get extenters or weaves or something.

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

Anna...sorry I confused myself...Beeker looks to be the guy standing in front of Joran in pic one...kinda hiding Joran's face

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

okay...almost 3 a.m. here... a record for me. Night all! Thanks for the pics Dan!

[Anna]

I knew what you meant, galloway girl. Yes, he does look sort of familiar but have not seen the sites much. Not him at the bar, is it> Do you recognize the one at the bar at all? I think Dan blurred his face, however.

[Anna]

Yes, thanks Dan. Hope you will be posting more. Guess you have a magnifying glass for looking at them? Might help.

[Sandy]

AG, no, not the same night. Found that on the Spring Break album - same as this classic photo:
http://gallery.magic965.com/displayimage.php?album=197&pos=103

[cocomo]

Certainly looks like her top, or at least the same color, she's standing or dancing on the bar, ok where is the rest of the pic? ...

[gallowaygirl aka mojo]

Anna -

I think the bar guy is just a bystander/tourista...maybe a Mountain Brook kid? I think Dan blurred him because he wasn't involved.

Night! :-)

[Anna]

Nite alll!

[(((AG)))]

AG, no, not the same night. Found that on the Spring Break album - same as this classic photo:
http://gallery.magic965.com/displayimage.php?album=197&pos=103

Posted by: Sandy | July 22, 2005 03:59 AM

Thanks, Sandy!

[Jessie]

Actually, that is just what Deepak said in his email about the scene when they arrived at about 12:30 am according to him. Natalee was dancing on the bar and wanted Joran to come up and dance with her on the bar. The top the girl on the bar is wearing is a match for the top Natalee had on, and the amount of fatty tissue on the arm fits Natalee. The height and color of the clothing of the the girl that could be Lee Broughton is a match also. Are you sure that is not Joran in the picture at the bar? The color and pattern on the shirt of the guy at the bar is right for Joran that is in the other picture of the guy who is clearly Joran.

[Jessie]

Never mind. On closer examination, the pattern of the shirt of the guy at the bar is not the same as the shirt Joran has on.

[Jessie]

I have thought for weeks that Lee Broughton could likely shed more light on what went on at C&C that night in regard to Natalee, and there she appears to stand at about 12:30 am with Natalee dancing on the bar, just as Deepak said in his email. Damn, I must be a physic.

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

post em all dan, no need to blur ... these are great

Posted by: Dax | July 22, 2005 03:17 AM

Dan,

Good work on getting those...

I agree with DAX...

The more we have and the more of us that look at them the MORE we will collectively see!

"In the multitude of counselors, there is wisdom." Proverbs

[clintcarter]

Amen, Can I get a witness?
Natalee is dancing on the bar at Carlos & Charlies. Dancing ON the bar. At 12:30 AM. Wanted JORAN to get up ON the bar and dance with her? I think we'd have heard about it if he had been Dancing on the bar, yes? So he refused? Not very predatory of him.
Good to see that she was being a human being and having some fun in those last days, but I wonder how different the tone of this blog would have been if we'd had pictures of Natalee on the bar along with the pictures of those OTHER people we saw on the bar.
Natalee be shaking it on the bar. Can I get an AMEN?

[clintcarter]

What's the time of the the bar dance photo?

[clintcarter]

OK, I see Dan said 12:30. I agree girl in doorway not Natalee. Matalee is on the bar. Amazing. How many Mt. Brookers in C&C's that night and this is a first? THAT'S a wall of silence. No offense ot Natalee; she and I could have laughed about it.
Bible study girl shakes it out in Aruba.
The concealment of this is troubling because of how differently Joran and Natalee have been viewed here. IF this 17 yr old had a terrible accident happen to Natalee and handled it badly and is now fighting a murder rap...
I hope this chills some of the arrogant mean-spirited attitudes toward Aruba.

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

Clint
Ther has still been a cover up by the 15 or so stories from the JVDS and friends.

the simple fact is that if it was just an accident then he just needs to show that... no problem ... if just an accident.

But the FACT that they are doing and have done everything to try to make sure no one finds the body is because the body will show precisely what happened - which, if just an accident, would have ended all of this once and for all.

So the FACT that they are not giving the location of the body show that they don't want the real story that the body will reveal....

And that involves whatever happened after a LIVE girl was on the bar. It's a dead / missing girl that is the incriminating evidence in this case -- not a picture of a live dancing girl!

[proudredneck]

Clint must have something against women dancing. I guess if a woman dances, that means she wants to be raped and killed. How obtuse.

[M]

If I were BHT, I think it would make me sad to know that the last known picture of my little girl alive was of her dancing on a bar, in a skirt, being plastered on the internet.

JMO

[clintcarter]

OBTUSE? What I said was that the tenor of this discussion would have been different if this photo came earlier. Do you disagree?
You read my words and say I think Natalee wanted to be killed? I'm sick of illogical a**holes this morning. The ability to reason is what separates us from the animals.
If a woman dances she wants to be raped? DID you even READ what I wrote? After all the emotion of the case if you were in front of me I'd slap you hard, REDNECK. B*tch.
What do you have to be proud of? Can't think OR write with intelligence. Just upset because I've slapped you down before, and this is the best you can do? Have you EVER written a logical argument? I didn't think so.
I'm on the warpath this morning. Either bring the real stuff or stay out of my face.

[clintcarter]

I agree with M, though.

AKEKOA, those are not FACTS. They are suppositions.
"A dead/missing girl is the evidence in this case NOT a picture of a live dancing girl."
HUH? Statements do not make things true.

[Jessee]

I personally don't see anything wrong with NH dancing on the bar, it just goes to show that she was in the swing of things and stayed til closing time. Also that Deepak may have told the truth about some things. Also that the girl I have thought should be a better witness to the last 1/2 hour or so at C&C is in that picture and probably knows more than the no nothing, see nothing kids that have been on TV who say they left at about midnight.

[clintcarter]

JESSEE, I agree 100%.

[annie]

The woman by the door has different hair. It appears to be just around shoulder length and definitely not like Natalies. It also appears darker and redder. I doubt it is her, but more likely someone that had similar colored clothing. Also, I am troubled by someone calling Natalee tall, unless the person was a midget. She is only 5'4" and that is far from tall. Could it be that the woman by the door is really the girl on the other end in that top photo? She had on a similar colored top and the top in that photo looks more like hers and her hair looks more like hers. I don't think that is Natalee.

The girl on the bar definitely appears to be wearing SIMILAR clothing to what Natalee had on, if not exact. Although it almost looks like a bikini top, like her stomach is showing right below the bustline, instead of white and blue polka dots like it is above. And if she were leaning over like that, with her hair being so long, I am surprised we don't see that in shot, especially if it had not been tied back. Usually, even with shorter hair, if you bend over at all, your hair cascades down and definitely covers your shoulders and upper arms.
So did she have her hair tied back? If so, she must have done it there if the person by the door is her too.

Looking more closely at Lee, her hair is all wrong in the snaps taken by the C&C visitor because in the one above it is a bit longer and looks to be more of a pageboy style (more straight across). In this photo, the girl's hair is shagged and shaved. Is it partially up too? It looks quite different to me. Plus, if you notice, it appears this girl is wearing a full-on dress. Lee's blouse stops higher and she had on a white skirt. This person's dress pattern continues well below the butt. I am not sure about that being Lee either.

I am confident that is Joran in that one shot though. Looks just like him. Question, is his hand resting on the shoulder of the person with a pink headpiece on? Wonder what direction he is looking? Which direction was the bar relative to this photo? Anyone know?

[annie]

Dan I forgot to mention that this is quite a coup! Great job digging these up.

I agree with other posters, post the others because we might stand a better chance at piecing some of these together. BTW, I hope you encouraged the person who took them to send these to the FBI or even those PI's that the H/T hired. I think if tourists that were there and took photos provided them with that information, who knows, you might actually have a tourist capture her leaving and be able to piece together how she left.

At this point, we don't really see her and Joran even near each other, so who knows what was happening.

[Jessie]

That is not Natalee in the doorway. That is Abe Lincoln. Nobody can tell what is in that doorway from that picture. I am not blind, and I don't see anything exept what my imagination comes up with.

[clintcarter]

You see so little her hair could be anywhere at that moment. I do think that's fabric in the midriff (obviously I'm convinced it's her).

Lee does have a layered hair style going up into the nape of her neck. I don't think the beach photo rules that out. It seems it could still be the skirt, too. I think it's her.

[annie]

I will concede that is most likely Natalee on the bar, but still am not convinced that is her by the door. I suppose that could be Lee, because the pattern of the top definitely appears to match, even though I think it looks longer in the bar photo and her hair to me doesn't look like the same cut, but maybe she has most of it up on top of her head (it looks like some is pulled up on top) and that is why it looks so different.

[michele in bham]

hey Clint, why does Natalee supposedly dancing on a bar change anything about what we know regarding her disappearance?

Why in your mind does that now mean that Joran is just covering up "an accident?"

[Kap]

Who cares? These pictures don't shed any light on the investigation whatsoever. In fact, they offer little help so why even post QUESTIONABLE pictures.

If figures someone would now say because Natalee was on the bar it played a role in her death or disappearance? I guess none of you have ever been to a bar where girls are encouraged to dance on the bar and many do, drunk or NOT! And these definitely doesn't shed any light on whether or not it was an accident. IF IT WAS AN ACCIDENT there would none of this hoopla. The case would be over. Joran and his father (who may be arrested again according to Tito) went to great lengths to hide the body and hide evidence of a VIOLENT crime. If it were an accident why the great lenghts to hide the body, unbury it and hide it again?

[Barski]

Joran either shopped at the all plaid store or rarely changes his clothes.

[Key West]

LMAO@ plaid store . It does make him stand out in the group. Natalee is dancing on the bar. She looks like she is having the good time she went to Aruba for.

[jrtz80]

Annie:
If Natalee is in fact dancing on the bar, I'm sure she would've been working up a sweat and had her hair tied back - that's probably why it's not showing.

[AVA]

Hmmm....can anyone enlarge or highlight the image of Natalee at the bar with Lee B. and what looks like Joran? All the images can be highlighted and scanned EXCEPT that one. I think Lee is a very important friend that night with Natalee. I do think the tourist that took these pictures was referring to Lee with being the 'tall blond' and that she possibly left earlier than Nat. I wonder when Joran left as it has been that Nat was possibly seen with Deepak when the bar closed. Any more info on this?

[Jessie]

Well the picture may not tell some of you anything, but it tells me several things.
At 12:30 am Natalle was not drunk. Her coordination was good enough to be dancing on the bar. The guy in the picture does not look like he is poised to catch the girl if she falls because she is so drunk. The girl that probably is Lee Broughton does does not appear to be even looking at Natalee. Conclusion: Natalee is probably OK.

The girl in the picture is most likely one of her room mates, Lee Broughton, and she could likely tell you a hell of a lot more about the condition of Natalee and the exchanges between Joran and Natalee during tha last 1/2 hour in the bar than any of those dip sticks that have been trotted out on TV to talk about Natalee just before she left the bar with the 3 boys.

[missy]

Right on Jessie!

[Merlin]

She is standing on top of the bar in the one picture and leaning a little bit forward as if reaching for something..