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Dan, you are the man. I have to go back once more and take a better look. Wow. Joran likes blue. Devil with the blue shirt, devil with the blue shirt, devil with the blue shirt on.

I find it odd the tourist describes Natalee as a "tall" blond.

In the picture "Possibly_lee_B", I can see the green image but it almost looks like a superimposed image. I cannot really see that well, or is Joran sitting and it is the angle of the picture which makes Natalee almost look like she is flying.

Gee, I need some new glasses. I see the green color and have no doubt about that, but that is about all.

Will try to lighten them and see if I see anything more.

That isn't Joran - I blurred his face. That is just another guy sitting at the bar. Joran is in only the one picture.

I definitely think that is Natalee up on the bar in the long shot...but that background pic could be anyone or anything.

Joran's hair looks awfully short in that pic - check out the photo of him from the Fox news site, marked as taken on 6/11.
http://www.foxnews.com/images/166918/2_28_061605_van_der_sloot.jpg
Is this 10-11 days' of hair growth? Guys? anyone?

Wait a minute...Joran's hair wasn't short/shaven the night Natalee disappeared...it was longer and worn down on his forehead.

I honestly don't see anything that resembles Natalee or her outfit in any of those pictures. I agree with you about the friend and Joran though, they are clearly in them. Very nice find, thanks a lot.

dan

thanks

such beautiful kids

such a dam shame

In the long narrow one, she looks well above everyone else??? I can't get the perspective right ...

Nevermind, I see it now in the second photo. You can barely make out what appears to be her blouse.

Dax

Looks like she's on the bar.

Dan,
That skirt is thigh length, not knee length.
Just a little fashion advice.

And I do think that is Joran despite the hair thing...check the earlobes Sandy. Distinctive.

The only picture of Joran is the one to the right with the blue shirt with white/yellow stripes. The plaid-shirted man, although he looks somewhat like Joran, is obviously a double for him at the clubs, but is not Joran. Lee? Who is Lee? Who took the pictures?

Oh, Dan, we want to know how, who, where, and why?

If she's on the bar, she's not standing in the doorway.

Dax

Looks like she's on the bar.

Posted by: gallowaygirl aka mojo | July 22, 2005 03:03 AM

I agree, the same top as in the first pic.

hmmmmm.....I see what definitely looks like natalees shirt she was wearing but unless she was really standing on the bar or dancing on the bar I can't figure out why she is above everyone else so high

She was standing on the bar.

she was standing on the bar ... or in the doorway as the photographer says? One or the other

who is the second pic supposed to be of? I can see barely the shadow of a girl standing in the doorway but it is so blurry I can't tell who it is - I do see natalee's shirt in the third though

dan do you have a hi res pix you can post?

I think the one pictures with the white box showing an enlarement claims to be Natalee in the doorway, though I can't make it out at all.

hmmmmm.....I see what definitely looks like natalees shirt she was wearing but unless she was really standing on the bar or dancing on the bar I can't figure out why she is above everyone else so high

Posted by: calista | July 22, 2005 03:08 AM

She's on top of the bar, leaning over or doing a dance step.

The pics are not all taken at the same time - I have over 20 images. The fact is Natalee Holloway was clearly dancing on the bar at 12:23 AM, or so. The man next to her is not Joran v d Sloot - just another guy. I blurred his face. Only one image is of Joran. Natalee is in either one, or both pictures.

Thanks Dan....excellent scoop.

I honsetly only see her in the one with her friend the other one is WAY to blurry to make anything out at all.

without a high res pix to bring into Photoshop, I can't see anything either in the wireframe photo. Photog says she was stnading in the doorway ... not bar

I think she is trying to help her friend up onto the bar.

Dax - geesh - they are not the same picture. She was possibly in the door in one - definitely on the bar in the other.

without a high res pix to bring into Photoshop, I can't see anything either in the wireframe photo. Photog says she was stnading in the doorway ... not bar

Posted by: Dax | July 22, 2005 03:14 AM

She is on top of the bar in the tall skinny pic. You can see liquor bottles in back of her.

post em all dan, no need to blur ... these are great

Dax

The doorway reference is regarding the shot of the guy in the stripe shirt...that blur in the background against the doorway might be Natalee according to the tourist...however, he referred to her as a 'tall' blonde...so maybe not.

AG I see that in the skinny one ... but the 2nd pix shows absolutely nothing without being able to zoom in on a higher res pix

Holding anything back, Dan? Let's see em all

Perhaps the "pictures" are authentic.

My question(s)

Why now?

Why werent these photos turned in as soon as they were developed when Natalee became missing?

Why wait?

All of the MBHS students need to bring forth their cameras, cellular phones, and even computers.


I said from the beginning that the investigation need to start at the beginning of the trip.

Retrace Natalee's steps from the time she got on the grounds of Aruba.

Who she spoke to when where for what reason?

What other drinks did she have during her stay on Aruba( just considering if there was a slow acting drug)


Retrace JVDS, PVDS, Kalpoe Brothers, Steve Croes tracks from the time the MBHS landed?

Confuscious says:

Men who let their PENISES do the thinking and leading soon run afoul of the law.

One woman and all those men. Matalee never had a chance.


People with nothing to hide hide nothing

Is that one of the Kaloes in front of Joren? The hair looks too short.

No, definitely not a Kalpoe.

not a kalpoe

Dan check your email and see if lightening helps any

AG I see that in the skinny one ... but the 2nd pix shows absolutely nothing without being able to zoom in on a higher res pix

Holding anything back, Dan? Let's see em all

Posted by: Dax | July 22, 2005 03:19 AM

Dax, I can really only say that the girl on top of the bar has on the same top as Natalee. To be honest, I can't tell anything about her from the other pics because of the resolution.

some of us a pretty fluent with photoshop ... high res versions would be great ...

dang, I sound like a broken record, but it's true.

I brightened it a bit and sent to Dan with HP photo editor but now sure if it helped. The one at the door is just too blurry.

No Anna no help. I'm very good with photoshop - that's the best I could get for now. Seems I have a few more to look through when I get a chance.

Yeah but you are working with the pix he has already edited, Anna. We need a copy of the original to really get anything out of it.

Well that is the same SHIRT up on the bar.

I did all I could with the door shot in photoshop and I don't think that is her by the door. Hairstyle doesn't seem to match.

Yeah the door shot is way too blurry to even think that it was Natalee.

I agree H&T ...

I know I am Dax but it makes the green color very visible and even the stripes show. I don't have a hi res.

AG-

That looks to be one of Deepak Kalpoe's friends...Jairo Bleeker, in front of Joran. Hard to be sure ... only shot I have of Jairo is with longer hair.

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