Natalee Holloway Update

Here are some new images and a link to the recent Fox story on the hearings today. If the past is a lesson, word will likely start coming out on a potential ruling before Thursday.

More later .... just getting home.

Comments

[Lago girl]

I am very frustrated that the FSU forensic divers never searched Boca Mahos...they could have found evidence of Natalee Holloway there...I am certain of it.

Now who will do that job? My childhood friends who used to skin dive and spearfish in there are way beyond the task, now.

So difficult to be so far away and a voice in the wilderness...no one has answered my emails to Greta, Texas Equusearch, MSNBC, Aruba Today.

I know that area of sea has to be the place they tossed the lifeless body of Natalee Holloway...or it has to be ruled out.

Someone in Aruba, please contact the Texas Equusearch Mr. Miller about the probability that a dead body would most likely be tossed over the cliff at Boca Mahos...the old garbage dump into the sea where the sharks were fed.

I was born in the Lago Hospital of the American oil refinery in Aruba and lived in the company town, Lago Colony (Seroe Colorado) all of my childhood and youth, until leaving for college in the States.

All of my Lago friends who grew up in Aruba, including the boys who loved nothing more than skin diving and spearfishing, swam all of those waters with only flippers, snorkle and mask and their trusty spearguns.

They all agree that by far, the fastest and easiest and surest way to dispose of a dead body would be to run over to Boca Mahos from Noord, drive up to the edge of the cliff and toss the body out into the crashing waves over the shear drop of the undercut cliff.

Look at Boca Mahos and the boys I grew up with jumping into the sea as teenagers...

This boca, cove, if you will, MUST be searched by the Navy Seals and the Florida State University forensic divers...or they will have missed the MOST LIKELY PLACE to dump a dead body to hide it forever.

If they dive and search that boca, they will find some traces of Natalee...I am sure...very very very sure.

All of my Aruba friends who know the island as well as I do, and beter, agree...dive in Boca Mahos...and you will find something...

http://community.webshots.com/photo/90596213/90596213YSQIQo

http://community.webshots.com/photo/263351571/263868450qvyqlk

And, the boys skin diving pictures:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/106719627/106719627ZLWNGu

http://community.webshots.com/photo/105986298/105986524pnxrsu

http://community.webshots.com/photo/105986391/105986391UqJJKJ

http://community.webshots.com/photo/114347189/114347189doLuRx

http://community.webshots.com/photo/114362638/114362638kZrCpz

http://community.webshots.com/photo/115010782/115010782BuelDM

http://community.webshots.com/photo/115011017/115011017ujUOSR

http://community.webshots.com/photo/115011305/115011305agVnwm

http://community.webshots.com/photo/115011496/115011496tdwxqJ

http://community.webshots.com/photo/111246037/111246037jilnIl

http://community.webshots.com/photo/106761904/111490601FzytSc

http://community.webshots.com/photo/114213599/114213599XsuEbp

http://community.webshots.com/photo/115012116/115012116JIXOcr

http://community.webshots.com/photo/115012891/115012891VwLcxG

http://community.webshots.com/photo/115013285/115013285ajSUUQ

http://community.webshots.com/photo/107426163/107426163vlDSxK

For those who know Anthony Hagendoorn, of the sailboat, Tranquilo, this is his father, Mike, who was the optician for Spritzer and Furhman (fitted my glasses as a teenager!). Mike was a champion racing sailor and was honored by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands for his wins in the Aruba to Bonaire races, with Tranquilo. See the photo of his skills as a skin diving spearfisherman:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/107887761/107887761ktfGBj

For those who want to see more:

http://community.webshots.com/user/lagossa

However, the point, here, is that these kids did it...as skin divers and the Navy Seals have much more protective gear for staying down longer and doing a proper search:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/106168026/106717984RiIcio

These are the boys who had the Aruba Cross built by the pipefitters in the refinery and they placed in sixty feet of water, at the drop-off behind the Esso Club in 1963:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/106716116/106716116NlFvxr

Cannot resist this photo of my hometown. Read Steve Fremgen's remarks at the side of the photo...

http://community.webshots.com/photo/106790840/106790840sogPDf

So, it is imperative that the modern day boys of the Navy and FSU go diving to see what they can find in Boca Mahos...the boys of Lago Colony would go, again, taking only photos, and leaving only bubbles...for they loved being in the sea more than anything in the life of a teenage lad lucky enough to be born and grow up in Aruba...nothing in our lives will ever be better than the childhoods we were granted by Fate...that our American and Dutch and British parents worked for Lago Oil and we lived in Aruba.

Please search Boca Mahos...that is the only place that makes any sense...

Sue Gravendijk
daughter of Arie Gravendijk, head cashier, Lago Oil and Transport Co., Ltd, Aruba

[CancunGirl]

Lago Girl:
Check your e-mail.

I did send your info to a lady in Aruba who has been doing her own sleuthing and encountered Natalee's dad yesterday. I just sent her your recent post.

Bon Tardi, Señora Sue

[Lago girl]

CancunGirl,

Masha danki! Espero que algo pase con los Navy Seals o los otros de Tejas EquuBuscar.

Bon tardi

[annie]

Thank you for sharing those photos Lago girl. What a beautiful coastline and I agree that that definitely would be one of the first places I would have searched as well. Even just looking at a map I thought it probably made the most sense.

I have a question for you as well. Would it be at all possible for her body to wash up on a Venezuelan coastline if dumped anywhere from Aruba? I honestly have no clue about the way the waters flow and so forth and was just curious if that was even a possibility.

[tracker]

I am impressed by your knowledge and information. However, I wonder what might be found of a body thrown into the sea below the cliffs more than a month ago.

[JustMe]

Lago Girl:

When this story first broke a friend of mine told me exactly what you are saying now.

He did not grow up in Aruba but he has been there a few times and knew of the place where garbage is dumped. He said that he saw the place when he rented a mo-ped and drove around exploring the island.

If what you and my friend say is correct then I cannot believe the autorities have not sent down divers in that area.

[TexasMom]

Lago Girl,
I've also taken the liberty of sending your e-mail again to Greta's e-mail address, and to Tom Miller's Hotmail address asking if they can just confirm whether or not the area has been searched.

Tracker,
"what might be found..." Pieces of bone, jewelry, her sandals... If the sharks disposed of the body, they would digest and then pass things like bone & metal objects which would find their way to the sea bed, hopefully close to the cove. Some items like fabric from clothing could wash up on the waves and be caught on rocks. Hey, it might be a long shot, but it's worth a try!

I'll keep my fingers crossed that either Greta or Tom responds in some fashion.

[Lago girl]

The wind blows directly into Boca Mahos and what is dumped there would be washed back into the boca...clothing, for instance, might still be on the rocks under the sea, thus the need for divers.

I have been told that the FBI divers who went home without diving did not feel they could safely dive on the windward shore of Aruba.

My friends and those home photos from the Lago boys disprove that theory...they did carefree skindiving with spearguns over forty years ago.

Because I have their photos to prove that it has been done, I am persisting until they go down there.

As for the leeward side of the island, facing Venezuela, the winds blow through what we called the "Green River" between the island and the coast. Everything goes toward Colombia...bypassing Venezuela. I think the Texas EquuSearch divers tested that part. They spent a lot of time on the leeward side, not the rough windward side.

[annie]

Thank you Lago girl. That pretty much answered my question. I agree that it couldn't have hurt to try at least doing as much exploring as they felt was feasible on that side. It seems a very likely choice, especially for anyone that knows the island like those boys would have known.

[CancunGirl]

I posted this last night and just now on Nancy Grace, Dave Holloway mentioned meeting and talking to THIS lady I mentioined last night!!

On another website an Aruban lady who has been doing her own sleuthing around the island in hopes of finding Natalee, came in contact with Natalee's dad today, Dave Holloway and this is what happened.

"redhead

Joined: 10 Jun 2005

I came home, switch clothes and ran off to take picturs
at the swamp across the fisherman's huts.. I took pictures
and as I drove off I saw a car getting to the place I just left..
Something told me to get out of my car and ask him if he is in
the search team.. I said " Sir, are you looking for Natalee?".
He said: No, I just wanted to buy a newspaper and I said let me
take a look in here. I said: Are you with the FBI?. He said:
"No, I am Natalee's father". I said: "My God"!!. I have been
looking for her and I am on this forum that have people(psychics)
asking me so many questions that I decided to buy this camera to
send pix to them. And that last week we went to Arikok Park at Prince Plantation and I was eaten alive by the insects (showed him the bites).
I showed him my pictures and he said they have already been there. I told him about your dreams that Nat was killed near the lighthouse,
I said we are all so sorry. He said he did not believe there were still people looking for her. I told him so many people
love your daughter and we don't even know her, that I can imagine
what he is feeling for I have not been myself since all this happened.. I made him cry.
He asked me to give him a hug... As I was hugging him I told him
God give you strength and I pray everyday for them to find her.
He said he knows
PVDS help told them not to say anything.
I have his room number.. I told him I will call him If I get more
leads, because since I have so much info. in y head I forgot them all."

Posted by: CancunGirl | July 12, 2005 12:38 AM

[Lago girl]

Good job, CancunGirl! Keep it up!

[tracker]

Lago Girl

What about boat traffic between aruba and venezuela? My hunch has been for some time that Natalee is not on the island. Either tossed off the cliffs in the area you suggest or taken by boat to venezuela.

Also, is there another possible port in the area that a small boat could reach during darkness.

Just reaching for straws maybe.

Thanks

[Texas Joe]

No Body No Crime!

So where is the body?

Fact:
Aruba is a major trans-shipment location for columbian drugs headed to Europe and America.

Fact:
Aruba is only 20 miles from south america

Fact:
Aruba has "free trade zones" where un-inspected cargo including cocaine and herion is transfered
to containers for shipment.

Fact:
Aruba's banking secrecy and casinos provide an service to South American drug cartel's to clean "launder" their money

Can all this be going on without the Aruban authorities being involved NO

The Aruban politicians, judiciary, (including Paul Van Der Sloot), casino owners, and yes the chief of police (PVDS's close friend) are likely all dirty and being paid off by organized crime on that "happy little island"

Why did the Aruban police try to pin this crime on two innocent men who's only crime was "being poor and black"? Why the big cover up for the Van Der Sloot kid? Because daddy know's enogh to bring them all down.

Hell Paul Van Der Sloot probably called the chief of police to help him get rid of the body.

So where is Natalie?
SHe was likely handed to the drug dealer's who shipped her off the island either in a container or on a fast boat used to bring coke from Venezuala.

No Body No Crime

Let's Invade and clean up this fetid backwater cesspool run by drug dealers and criminals.

If the Dutch don't like it TOUGH!

Texas Joe

[Bhannative2000]

I have thought from the beginning that she was sold for drugs or into slavery.
It sickens me but that is what I first though!!
I do not beleive she is dead, nor on the island. I believe she is being held..in a dungeon or something else somewhere..

[BhamNative2000]

I have thought from the beginning that she was sold for drugs or into slavery.
It sickens me but that is what I first though!!
I do not beleive she is dead, nor on the island. I believe she is being held..in a dungeon or something else somewhere..

I messed up my username there! above

[mastiffs22]

LAGO_GIRL: Are you the same folks that posted the terrific photos of Aruba showing the Esso Beach club and several shots of the far side of the island? I have shown these beautiful photos to my family. All of the scenic photos that you have are beautiful.
Can we make contact in order for me to purchase some of them for my own collection?

[Erik Couzy]

LAGO Girl, I sent you an email but it was returned by the postmaster.
Is you adres suegravendijk@hotmail.com still valid ?
We are going to visit the ole island next week and we enjoyed the old pics of the gang at the colony.
Half expecting to be welcomed at the essoclub by ole Cortney ;-)

[annie]

Joran's cofession live!!!! This guy is going to blogging Peter R. De vries' dutch TV show live in 5 minutes
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com