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» Evidence: Chat Between Deepak Kalpoe and Joran van der Sloot - Did Joran punch Natalee? (Updates) from Hyscience
In the last few hours, Natalee`s mom has publicly announced she has information that the three suspects are, in fact, involved in her daughter`s disappearance, as they all wait for a judge`s ruling to be handed down in the in the next 24 hours. [Read More]

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Why in the hell is this information just coming out now? If an eyewitness saw a man hit a woman in the face, you would think that that they would have tried to intervene or at least find out what was going on.... But, perhaps that is just an my insane way of looking at it. The Aruban way of life continues to completly baffle this southern American...

What would be interesting is to know where this occurred. How reliable is the witness? Perhaps witnesses are starting to come forward because this has been dragging on so long, they are now seeing that Beth and Natalee's case are not going away until Beth has her answers.

I agree.. why is this just now coming out and how do we know its credible?

This is outrageous! Unbelievable. No other words....

Can anyone verify who the source was? Was it a MB student or a local islander.

What is important with this punching-eyewitness is that the prosecutor can add that testimony to her appeal in order to detain Joran. Whether the witness is credible or not is immaterial. His credibility will be adjudicated at trial. This an old legal angle: to insure an attorny has his/her day in court, the attorney prepares a signed affidavit attesting to some fact of the case. Affidavits (witness statements, etc) require adjudication. Take the fiasco over Dole's contention of the presidential election a few years back. Dole's attorney pulled some really questionable tactics, yet he retained his license to practice law.

DESPERATION!!

Anything to keep this going. Am sure the witness also knows where the body is.

Interesting how the focus shifts. Before, it was all 3 guys. Now with just 1 in jail, the focus is Joran.

Maybe people have heard that the Halloway/Twittys are changing the reward criteria.

According to MSNBC's website, Scarborough Country repeats at 2 AM - I'm assuming that's Eastern Time

Dole?......you mean Gore, don't you.....


anyway, I think the HS kids have more tales to tell, and if this incident happened here in the USA....all those kids would have been detained and thoroughly questioned......

MNSBC ratings must be lower than usual. Joe is doing his best to increase his numbers. Tomorrow night he maybe has fisherman eyewitness to the whole damn thing. Just stay turned. Please!!!

THIS IS JUST TOTAL CRAZINESSSSS....I really hope they find her :-(

Anyone believe in the ... "Happy Island?"

What a mess down there. Wit. could have been one of the Kalpoe's, I suppose.

Secret tribunals! My Gawd!

Note it says LEGAL SOURCES and NOT the MB kids. So could it have been Satish and his attorney says this to help his client and put the blame on Joran?? Two legal sources-the brothers??

what is going on now???????????/ someone saw joran punch natalee in the face???????? oh come on......if someone saw it why didn't they try to help her then? who would see that and just keep going and not do anything about it? call police or anything? and they are just saying this now??????????? I am so sick of this garbage!!!! why hasn't this "witness" gone to the police???? first natalee is buried on the beach and joran confessed....now someone saw him punch her???/ I am lost lost lost ............and now we have tim miller saying he believes they found the spot where natalee was but she was moved.........I mean what kind of twisted investigation is this??

I htinkt hey need to just lock all of them up until this mess is solved - joran the kalpoes dteve croes and the dadwhy didn't the stupid aruba police let the fbi help them in the 10 days they let these boys run free and tap their phones or try to get some type of recorded proof........I can't believe these a@#holes

This is sickening. If this true, this witness should be charged with witholding information in a case. Where have they been all of this time? I have just about had it with the media in this case too.

whatever beth holloway knows....whatever this "shocking information" is she and her husband keep threatening to divulge they need to hurry up and say it because this case is wayyyyy out of hand and if they know things they need to be pressing for some ethical solution to all this because the longer it goes on the more weird and corrupt and ridiculous it gets..............every day there is some new "confession" or murder charge and then it turns out to be false or they just act like it never was said..............there has got to be some higher authority that can come in and take this over from these corrupt and inept police in aruba...........they have to answer to SOMEONE

MAYBE IT IS ONE OF THE KALPOES REPORTING THIS BECAUSE OF WHATEVER EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED IN COURT TODAY...............maybe they are scared tog o back to jail and trying to put it all on joran......if you read the comments today satish's attorney keeps saying he is confident his client is innocent but deepak's lawyer won't say that.......makes you think and also wonder why the 2 brothers have 2 different lawyers

I can't beleive the twists and turns of this case.

Interesting timming, the night before the judges decisions.

If this is true I hope this witness is in protective custody so we don't read about another decapitation in the cemetary!!

Keep your eye on Deepak. If you can find him in all the weeds that the media has created in this case.

Yeah right-Joe scarborough-that low eatings moron and Im supposed to believe him

It is possible that information has been known and withheld.

i'm just glad that the witness came forward and did the right thing.

Gaurantee it is the Kalpoes.

Blue Dog -

I'm with you - he is a "key" player in this investigation.

"A commenter stated that on MSNBC's Scarborough Country tonight Joe Scarborough reported that an eyewitness saw Joran Van der Sloot punch Natalee Holloway in the face."

Story referenced above on MSNBC NOW!

Yup...I'll say it again... Satish is talkin!

Well I fell for it and just had to watch old bottom feeder Joe on the rerun.
The sum of it is that some male friend from MBHS (maybe her Xboyfriend) saw Joran make a pass at Natalee twice and twice she rebuffed Joran. Then according to bottom feeder Joe's sources, Joran hit Natalee in the face with an closed fist. The the big tough from MBHS who saw this suggested to Joran that they "take it outside".
Now if that male pussy cat from MBHS actually saw this and did nothing about it, the is the biggest pussy cat that ever lived. My opinion. Bull crap.

The witness is a Mountain Brook teen? And he let her leave with him after seeing this? Nice friends.

I heard they a boxing match in the casino.

oh this is such bs....the person is a friend from mountain brook? come on now..........and theyare just saying this now? how many times have those kids been talked to by now and ALOT of people wopuld have seen that if it happened and I doubt natalee would have gotten nit in the face by the guy then hopped in his car!!! I would think joe scarbrough is one of the more reliable people but you know in this case everything is like the national enquirer

there was talk early on that joran had a fight with some mountain brook guys at the casino....but there is no way I believe that natlee would get punched in the face by a guy and just stay in the casino or carlos and charlies or wherever and just act like nothing happened then get in a car with joran........the only seemingly senseful story would be the guy from mountain brook is the one who hit her and that is why she left with joran but I doubt that either because if that happened joran and friends would have been telling that to anyone who'd listen as evidence someone else probably hurt her after they left her on the beach as they claim.............this case just gets more screwed up each day

ok so now joran is saying he left natalee on the beach and deepak picked him up??? first he said he walked home and text messaged deepak??????????? what is going on???? did the police even pick up on his yet agin changing story????????/and what is this evidence beth holloway has?

I am going to be really pissed if one of those redneck teenagers from MBHS in Alabama has sucker punched everybody on this case. If it turns out that this MBHS male who apparently is telling a lie about the punching of Natalee by Joran is really the one that was pissed because he had been rebuffed and killed Natalee after she has had sex with Joran and been left on the beach by Joran.

it makes no sense at all - if someone had seen joran hit natalee that woud have been ALL OVER the news from the start and how would her friends who were all with her see that and nobody did anything there was no security caled nothing??? and they all just said ok natalee we ar leaving you here alone with this guy who just punched you in the face? her friends all said they just left her at carlos and charlies and figured she was with other people from their group and they also said she talked to joran at the casino prior tot hat........none of this makes any sense

Well, either the bottom feeder Joe bomb shell is totally a lie on the part of Joe's source, or the investigation had better start looking at the MBHS male who told this lie. Tie that in with the mysterious phone call to someone that Natalee made from an Aruba cellphone and the complexion of this case gets turned on it's head.

This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Blue Dog I agree with you. I've been thinking for awhile now that maybe one or more of the MBHS students may be pulling the wool over everybody's eyes and possibly got extremely mad and jealous over Natalee's attention to Joran. This will be some kind of bizarre ending if that turns out true. The thing is the MBHS kids had already boarded their plane and returned home so the Aruba authorities never got to question them. Hmmmm.... Things that make you go hmmmmmmm...but I realize the FBI has so I don't know what to think......


maybe it was a happy punch - or maybe it was rum punch?

u guys must be crazy to drink that one.

NH had a punch in the face by Joran is a rumor only. It started with a bruise on Joran's face, but apparently it wasn't true.

like him or not, scarborough is spot on with his sources. the remark about why the witness has not come forward could very simply be because the apd and the fbi has told everyone not to talk about the case. regardless, like joe said we will know soon.

Its also reported that when Natalee was in the Kalpoes car, she happily screamed throught he open window 'Arubaaa'.
Would she be that happy, when she was sitting in a car with a guy that just punched her in the face in the middle of a nightclub?

Blue Dog- How do you know he didn't punch her? You don't know who the sources are? I believe Joran may have punched her and she was forced into the Kalpoes car. There is one eye witness that said Natalee was seen being pushed in the car.

When it's all said and done Joran will be charged and convicted in this case.

It's really unfathomable and unbelieveable that there are people that can't see five inches in front of their faces....

Hello....

Joran is responsible for this girl's death. Why are there people that can't see this?

Unreal!

Please!! One does not need to be a rocket scientest to figure out that (if this report is true)the witness (and probable lier if he said this BS) is the X-boyfriend of Natalee Holloway. Who else would say that he waited so long to come forward with this BS except someone who might be considered a suspect himself?

Blue Dog - Give up! Nobody pays attention to emotional, histerical, vulgar trolls anymore. Apparently, this punch episode happened AFTER Natalee was tricked into what she thought was a waiting taxi. Fits right in with Joran's violent (admitted even by his MOTHER!) nature.

Blue Dog - your post shows your immature intellect. The FBI has already interviewed all participants on the trip and they have been cleared. The FBI and even the Aruban police (the honest ones) know who is responsible for Natalee's death. What are you a m****n? You actually don't think the FBI and Holloway family had her ex boyfriend interviewed extensively about his whereabouts and actions that night? Are dumb enough to think that the FBI hasn't verified her ex's alibi and the other MB students? Give me a break. You are really reaching for straws. It doesn't take a "rocket scientist" to know Joran is responsible. He's the only one who has changed his story in some way or another 16 TIMES!!!!!!

You don't know either if her ex is the source for the MSNBC report, so why try and drag his name through the mud? It's been stated that Scarborough's source is someone "close" to the investigation. I doubt her ex is "close" to the investigation considering Beth Holloway Twitty doesn't know any more info from the Aruban police then the general media.

Some people just simply amaze me with their stupidity.

Blue Dog - BTW, the "boyfriend" that you trolls keep harping about was in the 9th grade. 4 years ago! Mighty long time in a teenager's life to be carrying a torch! Just wouldn't happen! Sorry, you trolls have got to start coming up with some new wild-hared, brainless, unsubstantiated slander. The old ones have lost their humor! And yes, the MBHS students included a lot of stellar, brilliant students, but it would take an Einstein to hide a body in a foreign country in two hours and hide it so well the Aruba LE couldn't find it. Ooops, on second thought, we are talking about the Aruba LE, maybe the monkey did it. From the looks of thing even he would be smart enought to outwit the LE down there!

Kap - Good points!

Bluedog, you need to tighten the chinstrap on that tin-foil helmet. Yeah, some MBH student killed her, disposed of the body so well in a foriegn land that there is stil no sign of it, then came home and cleaned up, all in time to make his flight the next morning, acting completely normal... Sure, then he somehow unnoticed flew down there a couple of days later, dug up and moved the body, hid the bloody glove, and check the ip's, cause then he wrote the Shango letters...

Is it me or does it seem like theres the same idiot posting ridiculous ideas like this just changing their name daily, seriously, it seems theres always one asshat who has the same type of stupid post, respond nonstop, but then dissapear and the next day theres a new and improved dumbass (now with 22% more inane bs) waiting to take their place.

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