Greta Van Sustern was just on Oreilly and said Tito Lacie will be on tonight with new exclusive information not yet reported. She speculated that it may have something to do with actual physical evidence in the case, her statement an obvious tease for her show.
She also claimed that Lacie has not yet even given her this information.
Damn
Update 2: I have had reports other than within the comments area that tonight's revelation could be that a male individual's DNA was found on Natalee Holloway's toothbrush. However, that information has not been confirmed. Also, it is my understanding that, even if true, it could have nothing to do with the case, and not even mean another individual, presumably a male used the toothbrush.
Heavy kissing, and/or oral sex could also result in male DNA being found on a woman's toothbrush.


Josie (Hoosie according to Nancy Grace) should run for president lol
Posted by: *SouthernBELLE* | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 08:57 PM
Greta indicated that Tito is going to be on but he would not reveal to her what he had. She didn't say Jossy.
Posted by: moey | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 08:57 PM
Surprise, surprise. I know Jossy has a leak and it is interesting how "dedicated" he has become on this case since the FBI has been allowed eyes into the case, don't you think?
Posted by: annie | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 08:58 PM
Yes, Dan! Greta said TITO LACLE would be on with the new evidence.
Posted by: wreck | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:01 PM
Everyone is asking why the gardner and the woman who lives near the Racquet Club have come forward now, and not earlier. Why did they wait so long to tell their stories?
Nancy Grace has just asked Masur "what reason would these witness have to make up these stories about seeing the 3 suspects near the Racquet Club. What reason do they have to lie?"
Well, it seems pretty obvious to me that money is talking. They have nothing to loose. If they are correct, they receive reward money for leading to the whereabouts of Natalee Holloway. If not, no one can prove they were right, wrong, or lying. There is just no evidence at that location.
So, why not now? I am surprised that people are even asking the question.
As for how did they know to wait? Well, there are rewards listed for many missing person cases in the Carribean. If a family is as desperate as the Holloway-Twitty's to find their daughter, it is only inevitable that, as time elapsed without finding her, that the ante would be increased.
They may even have been coached to wait, from someone who had some inside information that the family was considering changing the reward structure.
I am sure the gardner and the woman believe what they witnessed to be true.
Posted by: Dove | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:02 PM
Is it Jossy or Tito who has the scoop du jour?
Posted by: Anna | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:02 PM
Annie,
I agree completely. HE wants the FBI gone.
Posted by: Linda | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:02 PM
What are other bloggers' takes on why Jossy has suddenly become so involved? Would like to know if they are similar to mine? (A - He would like for this to go away as it has brought out into the open his family's ties with the Mafia, B - His family owns half the island so they would stand to lose big time if tourism drops, C - He's a nice guy and Beth's courage has warmed his heart.) But, heck, I'm not knocking what he's doing, for whatever his reasons may be.
Posted by: tideroller | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:02 PM
Anna:
Greta said Tito on O'Reilly's show tonight. She also said that he would not reveal what it was so she would have to wait.
It might be something revealing or just elaboration of what we already know.
Posted by: moey | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:04 PM
ok, this is all getting VERY stupid!! enough ALREADY!!! put something on here that is REAL! thanks!!!
Posted by: Ria | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:10 PM
Thanks Moey et al - I made the change. Was listening with one ear ... ; )
Posted by: Dan | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:10 PM
Greta tease??? Ok, so what if she said that so and so is going to be on t.v. tonight to put some "new" info out there... guess what??? We are all going to watch it, aren't we?? Then everyone will talk about it till midnight! LOL!! Sorry, I had a bad day and this "stuff" is irritating me! We need FACTS!!!
Posted by: Ria | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:16 PM
Thanks Dan, but Tito is not a Mansur. His last name is Lacle (or close) -- I don't think he is with Diario.
Posted by: wreck | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:16 PM
Dan: You're welcome. I tend to pick up things wrong from time to time -- its easy to do.
Interesting interview with the private investigator. For a long time I've thought things have occurred along the same lines he laid out. I think people will be very surprised at the extent of PVDS involvement and that of his connections.
I really don't believe his wife has a clue of what he and Joran and others have been involved in.
I feel for the Holloway/Twitty families and those remaining students that were on the trip. What a thing to have to live with for the rest of your lives. Not that anything is their fault its just that you will probably always second guess about things that you coulda, woulda, shoulda done.
Thanks again for the site Dan, very informative.
Posted by: moey | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:22 PM
Your getting closer (LOL)! It's Tito LACLE -- he is with rival paper Aruba Today. (Google it!)
Posted by: wreck | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:30 PM
I think Tito is a reporter for the Diaro
Posted by: TJJ | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:34 PM
"the Dutch forensic lab is the size of the men's room here at FOX"- John Walsh
If you got in trouble with your taxes would you do them yourself or would you get a couple of good lawyers and say hey, let's work on this together? (Analogy about this case and the FBI involvement)
On Joran Van Der Sloot: "He's laywered up"
"It's almost ARROGANT the way they are handling this case down there. Every government that needs help with terrorism asks for help"
>>>>> John Walsh, tonight as he spoke on Hannity and Colmes.
Posted by: FloridaPatty | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:47 PM
tito is with aruba today, along with boring government mouthpiece julia renfrom.
Posted by: ((((elan)))) | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:47 PM
renfro
Posted by: ((((elan)))) | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:50 PM
This media case is way out of control. Jossy may be part of a family that is or has been involved in big time criminal activiety with a huge financial interest in Aruba, but Jossy is also part of the media. The next time you see Jossy Mansuer on TV, just visualize FOOL written across his forehead. And if YOU believe him, just visualize FOOL written across YOUR forehead.
Posted by: Jessie | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:50 PM
Surprise, surprise. I know Jossy has a leak and it is interesting how "dedicated" he has become on this case since the FBI has been allowed eyes into the case, don't you think?
Posted by: annie | July 27, 2005 08:58 PM
LOL - he wants the FBI off the island. CNN stated that right now there is only 1 FBI agent and he/she is assigned to liason for the Twittys. However, more are involved in the case up at Quantico
Posted by: (((AG))) | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:53 PM
Last night Greta was the #1 rated cable news program on TV beating the once thought invincible Oreilly Factor by amost 300,000 viewers. It is the 4th of 5th time she has been #1 in the last two weeks.
Natalee Holloway definitely sells.
Posted by: jkatl | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 09:57 PM
On the teaser just now Greta indicated that the info had something to do with why the Kalpoes and Joran had to give DNA samples, so I would assume it is the toothbrush. Also, there can be a lot of explanations as to why male dna could end up on her toothbrush from sharing a cup with someone, to kissing; so this really won't tell us anything at all, unless it is one of the kalpoes or Jorans DNA.
Posted by: Dave | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:00 PM
Tideroller- A reporter asked Jossy why he was so involved the other day, and he said because he feels a close relation to the family. He said that he had attended high school in Mississippi and college in Mobile, Alabama. Also, his son went to Military school with jug.
Posted by: Dave | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:02 PM
I would think oral sex. From what is written about teens today, that is quite popular with teenagers (both male and female) who say that it all depends upon what your definition of what sex is.
Posted by: Jessie | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:05 PM
please tell me station and time of this show
Posted by: Tracey | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:06 PM
Greta is on Fox News, and it depends on your cable co. as to what channel.
Dan, do you have to run with speculation regarding a toothbrush?????
Posted by: michele in bham | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:09 PM
It's gonna be about the toothbrush and if u ask me that's disappointing as far as a good news item
Posted by: jkatl | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:12 PM
Ok it is about the toothbrush.
Posted by: Dave | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:13 PM
Toothbrush as earlier reported on FOX.
Tito is confirming SEVERAL witnesses have come forward.
Was that the only reason?
No alot of people cooberated the story that's why they are focusing on that pond and only that pond.
Have any of the three during the interrogatin raised suspicion about the pond?
negative. They are looking for a missing shoe that belongs to Joran. When I asked investigators he said "nice try" he didn't deny or confirm. - Tito
Posted by: FloridaPatty | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:18 PM
That's what was on Greta tonight on FOX at 10 EST.
Posted by: FloridaPatty | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:19 PM
Well one more blunder of the Aruba LE..waiting 2 months to get DNA to match DNA on a toothbrush of Natalee's they've probably had for 2 months.. But like Jug said, it has taken them weeks and weeks to question people.. is this incompetence or pure ignorance? The DNA on the toothbrush is probably from kissing or either from her brother. Why didn't they get that DNA when the Kalpoe's were still in jail?? This makes no sense. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if these "new" witnesses aren't new afterall.. The police just hasn't bothered to question the neighbors, etc. of the area near Natalee's motel.
Posted by: Sarah #1 | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:22 PM
The first thing that crossed my mind when Greta talked about the male DNA on Natalee's toothbrush was oral sex.
I understand that among young people today oral sex is much more prevelant than ever before among teens. I have heard that Natalee was very religious and not likely to have had sex outside of marriage or at least outside of love. Could she have fallen prey to the Bill Clinton popularized idea that oral sex is not sex?
I hope this is an incorrect thought, but I post it because it is a possibility. Maybe these Mountain Brooke kids are being tight lipped for more than wanting to avoid publicity (pun intended).
Posted by: satchmo | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:24 PM
They are draining that body of water to look for a shoe that Joran lost??? Somebody must be kidding somebody. Drain that body of water to find evidence and Joran could not have walked home with just one shoe? Did they ever think that he might have carried the other shoe in his hand when and if he did walk home? Get out your marking pins.
Posted by: Jessie | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:33 PM
Male DNA on the toothbrush means nothing.One hundred kids on the trip,partying,switching rooms,etc.Give me a break!!!!!
Posted by: peggy | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:37 PM
Hm...maybe its the truth that joran left her on the beach after oral sex then she went back to her hotel,brushed her theeth and then there he was, her ex boy friend, who was on the trip as well(I heard someone saying that two weeks ago when i was on the island)he asks her to go take a walk on the beach because he wanted some explanations from her why she went with Joran.They got into a fight and killed her...
You never know...
Posted by: esther | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:46 PM
I agree with Peggy, could have been a boyfriend of one of Nat's roommate thinking he was using his girlfriends toothbrush for god sakes
Posted by: jkatl | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:49 PM
Esther - What an imagination! Only trouble is nothing you say fits any of the facts that are known about the case. First of all, the ex-boyfriend was from 4 years ago! Everything you said has been 'pooh-poohed' long ago on this and other blogs.
Posted by: tideroller | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 10:54 PM
They are draining that body of water to look for a shoe that Joran lost??? Somebody must be kidding somebody. Drain that body of water to find evidence and Joran could not have walked home with just one shoe? Did they ever think that he might have carried the other shoe in his hand when and if he did walk home? Get out your marking pins.
Posted by: Jessie | July 27, 2005 10:33 PM
Ummmm why would Joran be carrying ONE shoe in the first place?
Posted by: Cathy | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:11 PM
About the toothbrush is not true. Speculation again. The gardener they are just looking for the one million, you guys will see that a lot more (gardener) will come out.
Posted by: Pearl | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:18 PM
That idiot kid did not walk home. PLeez give me a break. LOL
DAN??? YOU SAID....
Heavy kissing, and/or oral sex could also result in male DNA being found on a woman's toothbrush.
Dan, I know it is just speculation you said, but
honestly, I just do not see Natalle having anything of that nature to do with these 3 guys. Much less going off with 3 guys by herself as well.
I do not like to suggest such thoughts at all about a young lady that is not here to defend herself. Lighten up now. :O)
Posted by: ! | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:23 PM
! - Those facts are relevant to what can cause DNA to be somewhere. That isn't the same as suggesting what may have happened. Personally, I don't think anything will come of this as there will likely be no match to the suspects.
Posted by: Dan | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:28 PM
Did anyone now what shirt Joran was wear that night???
Did the investigators have that shirt or he throw it away?
Posted by: Pearl | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:34 PM
I doubt that LE is suggesting that NH had oral sex with either of the 3 boys based on the toothbrush DNA. The probability is that they are going to exclude the 3 as being the male that NH may have had oral sex with sometime before the time she went missing. Semen DNA is very strong DNA source.
Posted by: Jessie | Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 11:49 PM
Who says it was oral sex? There are so many explanations for how someone's DNA can end up on a toothbruhs it is absurd. It could have been something as harmless as sharing a drink with someone.
Posted by: Dave | Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 12:08 AM
If none of the idiot three's DNA is on that toothbrush, nothing and i mean nothing short of a full confession will save this case.
I think the Arubans are working for the defense.
John Walsh was inocrrect on one thing. The Dutch have an amazing facility. I saw a discovery special on how they caught a serial killer who crossed over countries into America. It was an awsome special. I love those kind of shows.
It is the Arubans who suck shit. Up until now I think the Dutch did not give a rats ass about this case. Now that the FBI is involved so are they.
Coolbeans
Posted by: Coolbeans | Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 12:11 AM
I dont think dna from kissing or from sharing a drink could survive inside a person's mouth long enough to be transfered to and found later on a tooth brush. If that was the case, every time someone gave an oral dna sample it would and could be possibly, theoretically tainted. Oral sex or her sharing her toothbrush with some guy seem more likely answers. I doubt it's her brother's dna as someone said, because wouldn't the cops have ruled that out due to the male dna being similar or dissimilar to natalee's.
Posted by: Don | Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 12:42 AM
If Joran's DNA were on that toothbrush that would be great news for him. Would show that he and NH were great pals. Close enough for her to have him in her room and use her toothbrush. Personally I would doubt that his DNA is on that toothbrush. Need to know whose it is though to put that baby to rest.
Posted by: Jessie | Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 12:46 AM
Well, I'm no expert, but I would think that it could certainly survive long enough to get transfered on to a toothbrush, it just depends on when whatever it is happened, happened. Anyways, if it were semen they found, then the attorney probably would have said so.
Posted by: Dave | Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 01:01 AM
Well since this is scientific evidence and not opinion, the size and strenth of the foreign DNA on the toothbrush will tell the tale. Not much question about that.
Posted by: Jessie | Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 01:10 AM