Family Of Natalee Holloway Hires Private Investigator

Earlier reports of voice analysis being done may have been false, but rooted to this investigator's previous visit on his own dimje to the island. It has been my understanding all along that, assuming the fund raising permitted it - the family would employ a private investigator if needed.

Contrary to some reports, the Twitty family is not wealthy, they are said to be a working class family.

Jug Twitty works for a metals company in Alabama and Beth works as a speech therapist.

Twitty grew up in Pine Bluff, Ark., and met her first husband, Dave Holloway, after college, family members said. The couple had two children, Natalee and Matt, 16. They eventually divorced and Twitty lived in Mississippi for several years.

In the late 1990s she married George "Jug" Twitty, who works for a metals company in the Birmingham area. She moved to Mountain Brook, a Birmingham suburb, and continued her career working with young children as a speech pathologist in the public schools, where she was hired by Standifer.

"I knew she was strong and smart," Standifer said. "That's why I hired her. But I've been surprised at how determined and strong she is." Twitty and her daughter were extremely close – "buddies" – in Standifer's words.

Natalee was sometimes called "Hootie" by friends, and Twitty at times took the moniker, "Big Hootie." "Beth took the summer off to help Natalee get ready to go to college," Standifer said. "She was an honors student and got a full scholarship to the University of Alabama."

As for the investigator, read below.

The parents of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teenager missing in Aruba, have hired an Alpharetta firm to begin a private investigation.

The teen, who was in Aruba to celebrate her high school graduation, was last seen in Aruba six weeks ago.

“I was watching this case just completely start falling apart, and I felt bad for the family,” said T.J. Ward, a private investigator with the firm Investigative Consultants International.

Comments

[gemebwai]

Got an e-mail 2 days ago like "how can you say MB kids are not telling the truth?" After stating a list of peolple that lied. Why isn't this MB kid in prison like joran for changing stories? Let the FBI get them to tell the truth!

[gemebwai]

Kap, as I stated b4, police chief doesn't decide when to arrest, DA does (same goes for warrants). The DA currupt? Most likely, many other cases where they covered up their faults. Min. of Justice corrupt? Sure thing! That's why he tried to get rid of J vd straten eversince he's in office!

[theresa495]

Hi,
Trying to catch up - does someone have the link to the transcript of the MB teen changing their story? I am on a MB blog but haven't had the chance to read through it for this info. MB blog http://www.al.com/forums/mountainbrook/index.ssf

Thx!

[Cindi in PA]

Fact of the matter is this, yes, teens do not always tell the truth in the beginning, stories change, they do not want to let down those they love. However, for the most part, when encouraged, they will tell the truth.

The MAJOR factor in this case is this, plain and simple......the police department FAILED to investigate, what could have been major evidence, for 10 days. I don't give a damn how small a department, how stupid the powers that be are. One of the vehicles taken away for inspection, came back with evidence inconclusiv. Yes, entire police departments, from top to bottom have been found to be corrupt, we had such a case here in Louisiana several years back. SO do not give me that bullshit, that it can not happen!
Aruba is playing games, they have been from the very first moments of being given information about Natalee. That is evident by the first 10 days, if for nothing else. Come on Aruba, demand to know why 10 days! The same is being demanded here in the States of the police in Camden NJ, WHO FAILED to find three young boys, while they were still alive. You do not see the good people of New Jersey sitting back and saying, hey they did their job,they did not and neither did Aruban authorities.

[Nice company]

They flew on the McWane corporate jet. McWaneis a nice company, the executives were just found guilty of environmental crimes. They dumped toxic waste into the city drinking water of Burmingham AL. They have a long history of none of it good.

[Nice company]

They flew on the McWane corporate jet. McWane is a nice company, the executives were just found guilty of environmental crimes. They dumped toxic waste into the city drinking water of Burmingham AL. They have a long history of none of it good.

[wtfsit]

The proper spelling is McWane. I don't know why I felt compelled to post this, but for some reason I could not stop myself. McWane. http://www.mcwane.org/

[kat_gram]

Hi;

This is the most promising news lately. First the DNA and now the PI.

The Kalpoes however could leave Aruba anytime they want. They are Surninese ( spelling ??? )
nationals.

Does anyone know any type of forensic science for dummies ?

Question : If there was blood & bodily fluids on underwear belonging to suspect(s) and then the
underwear was washed, could the blood still be traced ?

[nutjob]

Nice Company says:

They flew on the McWane corporate jet. McWane is a nice company, the executives were just found guilty of environmental crimes. They dumped toxic waste into the city drinking water of Burmingham AL. They have a long history of none of it good.

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Nice, perhaps you are unaware of the ridiculousness of this claim? They may have tainted some prospective source of water, yet, the actual water plants are not some common ground that McWane could have gotten into and dumped toxic waste into. And, FYI, toxic waste has been dumped in many a prospective source of water in this day and time. It is wrong and it sucks, but to suggest that they tainted the actual water supply is ridiculous.

[Cindi in PA]

They flew on the McWane corporate jet. McWane is a nice company, the executives were just found guilty of environmental crimes. They dumped toxic waste into the city drinking water of Burmingham AL. They have a long history of none of it good.

Posted by: Nice company | July 20, 2005 11:44 AM

And this has what to do with Natalee, or her family?

[shyne235]

not to take sides, just putting this out there, but the VDS obviously love their son.
If PVDS seems nervous, tearful, and even guilty as well, you must remember that he probably does know something and knows the consequences. if he says he will do whatever to protect his son, you have to stop for a second and think, if that were my child, who seems to have achieved a lot of positive things throughout his life, you have the instinct to try to avoid any suffering they move have coming.

when i was in aruba, i remember a local tour guide saying that crime was relatively low there because of the punishment criminals received. i'm not sure the extent of it today, but thigns such as cutting off of hands for theft, and shooting criminals on the spot were brought up. if this is the nature of the system, can you imagine what they have planned for the murderer of natalee.

if the system still is this stringent, pvds knows his son is a goner.. and im sure no one would want to put their son or daughter's life in jeopardy, regardless of what they did. they still know their child better than anyone else, and have a lifetime of memories to replace any negative occurences.

[Kap]

geme- AS I STATED B4 - The FBI has already interviewed these kids that were on the trip. A little variation in this girls story is no way comparable to Joran changing his story that involves him being the last person seen with this missing person. The FBI KNOWS who is responsible for this crime and so do "some" within the Aruban LE. Her classmates have ZERO involvment in her disappearance and this MINOR change in the story doesn't have anything to do with what Joran did to Natalee to cause her disappearance and DEATH.

[pamy]

Does anyone know if fluids and blood remain on a car seat, etc. unless bleach is used, which would never be used on a car seat or inside of a car trunk. You know how they do that dark light to show stuff on CSI shows. And even if the Kalpoes cleaned their car, hopefully stuff was found.

[Rachel]

I do have to say that there are similarities in these 2 groups of affluent teens.(MB & Aruba) They are all spoiled and selfish. Lying seems to come naturally to all. These also happen to be traits of a great many TEENAGERS all over the world. They know not how there little lies affect the big picture, because they cannot even see the big picture. Maybe it is time to teach youth the importance of thinking of others in situations that are larger than themselves. I am surprised that the MB teens have not been more forthcoming considering the majority are followers of faith.

[Cindi in PA]

Charles,

Save your second guessing. YOU were not there, YOU are not one of the friends that night. YOU have no clue of the circumstances of that night. YOU are simply second guessing.

[theresa495]

I can understand the MB kids being nervous about it being brought out they were partying - but like someone said, partying is part of being a teen. It's not a secret or anything and it really isn't a big deal. I'm sure their parents knew they were partying - the parents let them go and I am sure they knew what was going to happen. So if the kids have info, they need to come forward with it and help solve this case. If they truly cared about Nat, they would put their embarassment or whatever aside and give authorities what facts they may have. JMO.

[theresa495]

Also - my boss, who spoke with a parent of a teen that was on the trip, said "this group thought Nat was with this group, who thought she was with another group, etc." With 100+ students they were broken off in smaller groups. It seems that a group told Nat they were headed back to the hotel and she said something like "she'd catch a ride with them" and the group interpreted the "them" as another MB group, not JVS and Kalpoes.

Sounds like they should have used the "Buddy System" to make sure everyone was accounted for...

[Pat]

I would like to join in the chat for Natalie. Can someone please tell me how to enter the chat room?

Thank you so much.

[Rachel]

does anyone know if these boys spent anytime out on the water? Any recreational activities besides drinking and gambleing? Would any of them know enough about the water around there to know how to dispose of her that way?

[Cindi in PA]

this MINOR change in the story doesn't have anything to do with what Joran did to Natalee to cause her disappearance and DEATH.

Posted by: Kap | July 20, 2005 12:06 PM

Right you are Kap, after all there were 124 or so young peopel on that trip from Alabama, I am sure all were not close friends of Natalee. The fact remains, the last three to see Natalee, were not classmates, they were Arubans. To put the blame on other classmates is as bad as putting it on Natalee. I was 18 once also, I can tell you this, if I decided to leave a club with someone, there was not a person in my group that could have stopped me, that in no way would mean I had a death wish. Stop blaming Natalee, her friends or the good people in Alabama trying to help them.
It just makes me sick that people want to blame this on those other than the last three to see her alive.

[Rachel]

I am not blaming her friends, but if they have witheld information that could help and they choose not to divulge it for self serving reasons, they should be ashamed of themselves. I have ateenage daughter and if this were her friend I am sure she would speak up, because a persons life is more important than a punishment or my being dissapointed in her.

[sol rosenberg]

Sol did drugs in high school. And I suppose the majority on this board have never done any, right? Just like slick Willy Clinton, right? Let me guess, you never inhailed! ROFLMAO

If the MB students were partying, Sol says...so what! A few beers never killed anyone. Just don't do too many in Aruba, cause once you do anyting is fair game. What goes on in Aruba stays in Aruba.

PS - Alcohol is a drug for all you college kids out there. :)

[theresa495]

I am not blaming her friends either, but agree if they have withheld info and they don't share it because they don't want to "look bad" they should be ashamed of themselves. I wonder what I would do if it were my child (MB teen or JVS), and I like to think that in either situation I would tell them to do the right thing and tell the truth. I guess you never know until you are put in that situation, and I hope my son doesn't ever put me in this type of situation!

[nice company]

Nutjob says "perhaps you are unaware of the ridiculousness of this claim"

Read about McWane at this Frontline article "Dangerous Business." Does Jug work for Tyler Pipe, which is owned by McWane, hense the private jet?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/workplace/mcwane/

Looking for work is tough, but McWane Pipe, owned by one of Alabama’s richest families, is toxic. On May 25 a federal grand jury here handed down a 25-count indictment charging McWane with illegal dumping into this city’s drinking water and other environmental crimes. The indictment names four top executives in the $2-billion-a-year corporation.

“The big message is that these environmental laws are on the books for a purpose,” said Alice H. Martin, U.S. Attorney in Birmingham. “McWane put pipes and profits before the public welfare.”

The investigation into McWane started in 2003 following a series of articles in the New York Times that exposed more than 4,600 injuries among the corporation’s workers. According the indictment, McWane conspired to routinely dump thousands of gallons of wastewater, lied to investigators, intimidated workers and altered accident scenes.

McWane a Toxic Company
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/pipes/mcwane.html

[Rachel]

It seems as though we may be getting closer to answers in this case and hopefully they will lead to Natalee. Her parents deserve to take her home and God willing that will happen soon. I still think Deepak Kalpoe is in this deeper nthan most of you think. He was known as a drug dealer, big mor small does not matter. He wanted Joran quiet for several reasons.

[gemebwai]

Big or small doesn't matter? There is a BIG difference between kids that now and then fix something for a tourist (because of money or just being nice) and being inside the bussiness as a bigtime shot. After all, killings and kidnaps are bigshots deals, not the kids.
Even I would get something for a tourist I met and was friendly with even though I'm not into that world at all.

[kescah]

Van Der Stratten SHOULD have stepped aside from this case from the beginning. That is normal procedure when there is a conflict of interests. He stayed on to slow things down, to cover things up. It is right to let a neutral party handle things like this, not a family friend. It's frustrating to learn that he will stay on till the 15th! At least then he will be out of the way.

I have to say that I feel very badly for all of the mothers. Beth firstly, of course. I wish I could say that it will be alright, Anita and Kalpoe mom, but I really don't think so. My son is learning some things the hard way, but at least they are not such serious things. I will say that if somehow we learn that Joran really left her alone and something unrelated to him happened, I will be very happy for you moms. But from what we can tell here on the outside, it doesn't seem that way.

[Alee]

I think Natalee's friends are saying what they are TOLD to say in public. Every one of them have been interviewed by the FBI and I'm sure the FBI has all the correct facts.

[shell]

Joran and the Kalpoes are considered prime suspects because they were with Natalee the last night and they kept changing their stories. In a way, it's not much different than the Mountain Brook Stepford teens, who are just as inconsistent in their tales. While it seems like they are sanitizing their story to protect themselves from criticism for doing drugs and being drunk, it could also indicate they know more than they are willing to say to protect themselves. How about if they sent Natalee out to get drugs, and that's why she left with Joran and the Kalpoes, rumored to be involved with drugs? What if they took her to a drug house, and left her there, and that's why they feel guilty, but, it's also why the Mountain brook teens are lying. They may also feel guilty. How utterly ironic it would be if both ends of these teen participants are personally not directly responsible for her ultimate fate, yet, concealed enough for the truth to never get out.

The Aruban boys may fear the drug lords of the island, and may not know Natalee's fate. The Alabama teens would never consider being honest, even if it was to help their friend.
It's just as disgusting as the Arubans. Those girls are just as miserable in my eyes. THey should be ashamed of themselves.

[tmag]

I live in MB, a mile from the Twittys. If anyone has seen a photo of the home, it is a basic 1960s style suburban home (like mine). Although MB has some beautiful areas and many wealthy people, it has more people like the Twittys and my family..."working class" people who have paid the price to live in a wonderful school system. Their home likely cost around $200,000 if they bought it in the late 90s.
The plane that transported the Twittys within hours of learning of the crisis came into the picture because a man who works for McWane has a daughter who is a MB student. It is true (and no secret) that McWane, an old and philanthropic Birmingham business , has had some legal problems in recent years. The company has not met some federal standards for occupational and environmental regs. They have been paying the price. Regardless, they wanted to help. In my opinion, the Twittys and friends from our community took quick necessary action to get to Aruba as quickly as possible. I wish the Aruban police had responded to the emergency with the same commitment. There may have still been a life to save at the time.
Economically whether we are poor, broke, middle class or wealthy; culturally whether we are Aruban, Dutch or American, every parent would fear not having the resources to turn every stone in seeking a lost child. May our hearts be turned towards helping these people who are in great need.

[Carolyn]

Get a grip, shell.

[Carolyn]

"wow shell do you live in LAH LAH LAND ??"

I get the impression she's from the Land of Perfect People! Alas, my teenagers weren't from there.

[Kap]

shell - WHATEVER. These kids had no involvment nor did they "hinder" the investigation as some other poster on her claimed. I'll say once more, THE FBI ALREADY QUESTIONED THOSE ON THE TRIP. 124 classmates CAN NOT keep a story straight and if they had sent Natalee out for drugs (which is ludricrous and ridiculous and there is no SUPPORTIVE facts to back it up) the FBI would have gotten that much information from them.

What should they be ashamed of? Their partying, drinking, maybe smoking a little weed? Big deal. Because they aren't coming clean about that has nothing to do with what Joran did to Natalee.

Comparing these kids to Joran and the Kalpoes is irresponsible and sickening to me. (YOU MAKE ME SICK just from what you said). These kids were on a trip and Joran and the Kalpoes ruined it for not just Natalee but for the whole MB community. They may have ruined for other communities as well. Joran and the Kalpoe bros are "HINDERING" the investigation NOT the MB students on the trip.

Get a life.

[tmag]

The Twittys/Holloways are living our worse nightmare....their child is missing or dead. The VDS are living our second worse nightmare.....having a child who becomes tied up in a crime. It is tragic for all, BUT as Dave Holloway expressed, "They KNOW where their child is."

[tmag]

Economically whether we are poor, broke, middle class or wealthy; culturally whether we are Aruban, Dutch or American, every parent would fear not having the resources to turn every stone in seeking a lost child. May our hearts be turned towards helping these people who are in great need.

[Gale]

With BHT's never ending dedication to finding her daughter, I have to ask why did she wait so long to hire a PI? IMO, that should have been done weeks ago.

[Rachel]

Kap

You have got to be kidding right? How many children do you have? I have six. My satement that MOST teenagers these days do not think of others was the comparison not the other behavior. Natalee was 18 and could do as she wished. I am not at all appaled by the behavior of the MB teens and have never said they sent her to a drug house. If her friends have held back info that may help to be self serving it does have to do with what happened to Natalee. Are you one of those teens? Your anger seems to be self serving.

[Coolbeans]

I think that Deepak has a greater role and is in this much deeper. I think the brother was dragged into this, but now it is to late. I think the Mother like Pvds knows more. I think Anita was left out of the loop, she "talks" to much and is emotional.

I think the Aruban's were blind sided when this occured. Clearly they were not prepared for this, like most small towns in the USA. (We had the Joel Rifkin serial killer near us and the media was BRUTAL). But that is no excuse not to ask for help. I agree the man should have stepped aside due to conflicts.

I agree and I am being honest, I would do anything to protect my child. Yeah I would lie and help. It's an instinct that clicks on when the babies are in danger. So like a lot of parents I would be no better than pvds. I dont like it, but I dont blame or judge him, if he helped after the fact. If he helped during, then he can rot in hell. His reputation on the island is not of an evil man, he is just a vicitm of being on the wrong side of this and running on gut instinct and adrenaline, all the while having FOX on his back.

My heart breaks seeing BHT. Her hair is starting to fall out from the stress and she looks like she has had several breakdowns. I know the pain she is going through. My brother and sister have both lost a child in there teens. It is a disaster to a family and can act like a wrecking ball.

I donated to the cause and I will again. (I also sent to the woman whose home was ruined, her cause is a just in my eyes.) I think one of the parents MUST stay until this is over. If they leave, so does the investigation.

I never once beleived any of the MB students when they put on the Halo. It was a comic interuption to a serious event. Come on, no one beleived it, who cares. I get wasted once in a while big deal. however put a camera on me, I would kindly ask the girls to pass the halo to me. My mother used to say "Stupid questions, get stupid answers!" "were you guys drinking...Oh no, not us" lol

It means nothing because Joran admitted to being the last one. He is the admitted "rotten egg". So who cares what the girls say or him either. Get the proof. He is not going to admit shit. he is thinking 60,59,58,57 more days. not 20,19,18 years to go.

I hope this tape is a match, but I have my doubts. I just hope that the arubans did not "O.J.", the evidence, remember the bloody glove that was planted, that killed the case. Equasearch guy said they searched that area twice and found nothing. and then added,"either it washed up or was put there". I gues pride was on the line. The ranger said the tape looked like it was not in the water. So we will see. If a 5th hair is found, then maybe we ask the prosecutor for a sample. lol

The Fbi can tell via the DNA if any of these banana's touched the tape but they can also say how long the sticky side has been exposed...another timeline. So we should know that too.

I think they took the DNA because the FBI told them "Duh!". They will try to scare the boys, but it could backfire if they did not use duct tape. In addition to PVDS visiting or having friends on the inside telling him to shut up.

These are just my opinions. I mean not to start anything, but I after reading the blogs, I wanted say a few.

Coolbeans

[Cindi in PA]

Shell

I suppose you have never hung with a group of 124 class-mates. I doubt based on all accounts of Natalee, she would be going out seeking drugs for the group. Maybe you never raised an horor student, one who worked her ass off for a full scholarship, had friends with nothing but nice things to say about her. But Natalee's mother has, and her friends, those close to her, know who she is, what she is about. Joran on the other hand had(s) a web site, that showed pictures of his stoned ass on more than one occassion, in addition to his own description of what a bad ass he thought he was. You are assuming to know things about Natalee, none of which have been proven by the way. On the other hand, Joran and the brothers Kane and Abel, are self described by their own words. I wish Natalee were a proven liar and abuser of drugs and so on, it would be much better having her in a cell, than missing, as her father put it. As far as fearing the drug lords, tough shit, that's what they have parents for, a criminal prosecutor and a chief of police as well, to help them deal with the truth, no matter the consequences.

Sure hope you are not raising kids, not with the type of excuses you are ready to place, instead of the desire to get to the truth.

[pamy]

why is everyone trashing the m.b. students? if you trash them, you are trashing nat. and i thought we were all for nat. are there trolls trying to make the victim into guilty one here?

[gemebwai]

The ranger claimed the tape was has not been in the water because it was still sticky (duct tape loses adhevisnes within hours after being in the water, I can tell, tried it on my boat): so, to me it was planted there, and yesterday's discussion of the motive leaves only the H/T family.. (if it proves to be NH's hair), so, if it matches, doen't mean a thing, only less condidence in H/T fam.

[gemebwai]

Pamy, there is a difference in "trashing" the MB students and NH... Unless you are so closed minded that you really believe they couldn't have done anything. They can have.. I don't know, nor do I know of JVDS or the Kalpoes.

[Justice4All]

Wasn't there suppose to be a release from the Keystone's of why the DNA was needed?

[kescah]

I can't help but keep wondering what Natalee (honor student, good girl) saw in Joran/Deepak/Satish to go off with them. People are not normally attracted to such different types. Or maybe she's so driven out of emotional problems? Maybe some things in her life weren't as rosy as it looks. I'm not pointing the finger at anyone, just saying that an emotionally healthy, stable girl would not normally want to hang out with a guy like we see Joran to be on TV- he is quite, I guess the word would be, irreverent- the way he bangs on things and stares at the cameras, etc. As if, this is his moment of fame and he is going to show himself to be a star. Was he able to put on a nice guy front, or was he fairly wild at the bar? Or is he really a nice guy who got roped into, blackmailed into, doing something really wrong? His being arrogant to Beth the first day- was that a front or is that how he is? A 17 y.o. guy would have some difficulty figuring out how to handle a really bad situation properly.

[weet weet]

cindy, life is not black and white. i was an honor student. i had the highest sat scores in the school in 10 years. i had full rides to several schools.

i also kicked back sometimes and got drunk. i also smoked a little pot from time to time. and i messed around with boys.

i'm just saying that just because she was an honor student doesn't make her a saint. She's a teenager before she's an honor student.

i'm also saying that by saying that, i'm not calling her a drunken drug addicted whore.

also, of course her friends are going to say nice things about her. no one is going to say "man, natalee was sweet and pretty and cool but man, she slept with everyone!" or, "hey, my best memory of natalee was when we showed our boobs to get into a show!"

I'm not saying she did these things specifically, but you can't put her up on a pedestal and call her a saint because she was an honor student. teenagers do things.

how many funerals have you been to where people go up and talk about the deceased by telling of their faults and their shortcomings? no. this is the same thing.

none of this means she deserved anything, btw.

[weet weet]

kescah- i think the problem lies right there: the stereotyping. Natalee = good girl, Joran = bad boy. its not all black and white.

granted, if he killed her, he's "bad." but in terms of slamming his fists on the hood, regular people have tempers too. and being in jail for weeks probably doesn't help that. all the pictures of him smiling? maybe he is grinning. maybe that's how is face is at rest. maybe they're opportunistic photos. in terms of how he spoke to bht, i don't know that we know what was said to him, or how it was said to him, and also, you've never met a surly, rebellious, talk-back-at-ya teenager?

[TexasMom]

Regarding body fluids being found in the upholstery of the car. Luminal will show any blood, and I believe ultraviolet will show semen, even if the fabric has been "cleaned" as long as bleach has not been applied.

Probably already been posted, but if the authorities are taking DNA samples from the suspects, would seem obvious they are needing to compare it to an unknown sample found on some sort of evidence they have positively linked to NH. Looks like things could start getting really interesting.

Boy, keeping up with this blog is exhausting! Especially between projects at work. So much to scan through and digest. However, I have to applaud you guys, especially the regulars. I check here first for the latest info. Nice to read the opinions of people who actually try to see the whole picture.

[Kap]

charles iii- you have your facts wrong. it has already been established that most of these kids were middle class, working class families....nobody is blinded by the media potrayal of Joran and the Kalpoe brothers. They are portrayed in the light they have put themselves in. They are liars (WHICH IS A FACT)and they are lying about where and what happened to Natalee.

geme - you have sunken to a new low, implying the H/T family planted evidence! The H/T are not the Van der Sloots or Van der Statten. What could have the MB students done to Natalee since you think you know everything including that the H/T planted the duct tape? How many times do I have to state the FACT that the FBI interviewed all necessary parties and have concluded they are in the clear. You know more than the FBI does? The FBI knows who is involved in Natalee death and those involved do not reside in the United States, ANOTHER FACT!!!! I hope the H/T read this and sue you for libel and slander by implicating that they planted evidence. You're trash really.

[nicolle]

Amen tmag!
I am tired of people worrying about how had the plane and if the people who own it are in trouble! What does that have to do with Natalee and her disappearance?? I am just glad that someone had the ability to get Beth there ASAP or who knows how much worse this could be.( Although it is hard to think of it being much worse!) Sometimes I think certain people are just jealous that others have more. Well the people that owned that plane and are well off, at least are good enough people that they flew Beth in to find her missing daughter!!
Get a grip to those of you that are bitching about that! Who cares! Natalee is missing and needs to be found, and that is our main concern here, right? This board is not about bashing the McWanes! At least they were kind enough to offer assistance.

Put the blame where it belongs. On psycho liar Urine, the two Kalpoe freaks, and that shitty wanna be government and police in Aruba!!!

[Countryboy]

This whols situation is extremely disturbing. The severe incompetency of the Aruban authorities is increadable and intolerable, if it is in fact incompetency, It might, and in most of our opinions, is in fact is basically a cover up. So for that very reason this is the situation. We have watched this situation unravel before our eyes and watched the family suffer, and the press ask extremely stupid questions dragging the family down an even more painful road. There are millions of other people who are following this who are in thier own way suffer each and every day. This is inexcuseable. The guilty parties must be man enough to admit to their crimes and allow the healing process to begin for the family and for the others as well, if not then Justice must prevail.

It is regretable however the word is that there is three individuals in the Southern United States who are rather blessed financially who have been together and have put together a team of individuals of 12. Two survelance contractors and 10 ex military types who have rather interesting specialties. It is said that these individuals are already on the island and are not together but are in contact with each other at all times. They all have what they need to accomplish their tasks when it is time to do what is needed. We do know that there is one particular instrument on the island and it was delivered by a go-fast boat and it is a Barret BMG-95. for those of you who know what that is. It was sent for long range business. The word is that the hard targets are JVDS, PVDS, AVDS, Steve Croes, His Uncle the DJ for 95 Mr. Croes, the Kapole Brothers and lease we not forget Mr. Lorenzo. There are a few other interesting twists here. These are all hard "Targets" there is an interesting situation with the Kapole brothers however there is supposedly a $10,000.00 bet that the both of them gotta go at once, what ever that means ;-)~ There are two unconfirmed targets from Venesuela and two uncomfirmed targets from Columbia these are associated to Mr. Lornenzo. Mr. Lorenzo is basically a bad dude he is deffinately connected to Natalees being missing, we just aren't looking that way, Wonder why?

Time will tell with this situation, it seems that these individuals have patience, they are waiting for the right moment. It could be messy and it could be rather shocking, in any event, payback could be a real bitch.

It would be easier from our understanding for these cowards to just get it out in the open and tell what happened and let the healing process to begin. Otherwise...............