Commissioner Dompig also was in the helicopter and the witness

Thanks to Kay and, I'm sure the lovely Amanda for this translation from the link.

Exclusive Writing says:

Commissioner Dompig also was in the helicopter and the witness.

The witness was on board a helicopter flying over the Mariott and the Aruban Racket Club. In the Monday edition of the Diario. Joran, the principal witness, will be taken to a location based on what the witness said. He has been contained for what is approaching the 2 month mark and still nothing. Searchers of the house and property haven't turned up anything. Two innocent security guards were held and got big reactions out of Aruba. Satish & Deepak Kalpoe, and Joran Van Der Sloot were detained ultimately resulting in the release of the two brothers. The trio were companions of the Alabama student from America.  Also, the father of Joran, Paulus, was detained in the jail, but his freedom came soon after a week of incarceration, and he resumed his freedom also.

Yet, the young 17 year old, Joran Van der Sloot, still remains in detention. The team remains encouraged at the home of Natalee and says they owe a great deal to the cooperation and support of the Dutch, Americans, & Arubans and all of the cooperation of the local government.

Mother of Natalee, Beth Twitty, decided to up the reward to $200,000 dollars, but then on Monday she announced that it would be raised to 1 million dollars for the 1 tip leading to the return of Natalee.

This witness came forward then and provided this link between Joran and the Aruba Racquet Club and the lead prosecutor. The Chief editor of the daily paper, is starting to notice movement in the case. And on Monday the "chief suspect" will board a helicopter, together with the commissioner and the interrogators. The Aruban Police's Helicopter was seen flying in circles in the area of the Holiday Inn and fisherman's huts. That was the area in focus, along the beach, and arrived at the Aruban Racquet Club. Joran is known to be seen around the area of the Racquet Club, and the clue can't do anything, but good, for the investigation.

After a leg of tennis one might arrive a the beach near the area of the fisherman's huts where you can practice windsurfing. The area here, is one were Joran, who is a member, and  would be familiar with, even with  his eyes closed, like the palm of his hand.

Monday at an unknown hour the helicopter is going back up. Which seems to give indication that they may have seen something. Descriptions of the gray colored car continue to be given by witnesses who took notice of the, confiscated vehicle, which is being searched for evidence to encourage that the investigation is ongoing and that the case has an open door. While the helicopter is to go on flying and can on go as observers on the ground more or less, "continue to wait".

The trio, Deepak & Satish Kalpoe and Joran  were said to have been spotted in the vehicle blocking the road just near the witness. This is one huge matter and enough to catch the attention of principal investigators on the ground. During the Daily Paper's course of investigation it lead to present several international tips. Also, according to the Daily Paper the FBI is being brought out, and will continue to play a large role in the investigation.

The high commissioner is to appear on a cable of TV channel  in Virginia on one interview  with high commissioner of Aruba, Mr. Ronny Bernadina, Kendey continuing to paint Aruba in a positive light and pro vent negative effects on Aruba's tourism; according to an Aruban local. DNA results are to be back from DNA-lab in Quantico, Virginia any day. They are hoping this can resolve the case of Natalee Holloway on Aruba. They want the case solved because, Aruba is an island of much safety and they do not have evidence to get a conviction at this time. "I am hoping for an end based on conclusions reached at the laboratory and I am waiting for my clue owing a great deal to the laboratory's of Aruba, Holland and the FBI. I am also hoping to resolve the case but we do not have the answers yet says Bernadina as he describes the case of Natalee. Because, it is difficult and strange, but we have reason to believe we will arrive at one conclusion.

Clarivedente is to see cell site reports of the daily paper and also to follow several recommendations of the "calling tipsters". America is to be assured we will achieve finding Natalee's whereabouts if we at all can. One beautiful, young lady here on our happy island tragically disappeared with few clues left behind in the same area as the cell site. As you can see the evidence of here just near the Aruba Racquet Club has one cell site also.

Comments

[Kay]

Yes, Dan she is a beautiful blonde much like Natalee. Thanks, Dan!

[FloridaPatty]

FOX now covering more updates on the O'Riley Factor:

On the course of the investigation....
The Aruban investigators do not operate with the speed and efficiency that we are use to in the United States.

O'Riley: So you think the United States should take over the investigation..

Judge N: Not without permission by the Arubans.

Senior Judicial Analyst Andrew Napolitano ..ASSUMING that there's something more there than just allegations between the brothers and Joran Van Der Sloot, the FBI would not go down there based on just what someone says I think they've got something that's now at Quantico.
................................................

Beth and Jug on Hannity and Colmes tonight.

Did anyone else see that? Somebody get a link up to that interview. WOW. I read the expression on her face when they asked if they forensic evidence. Wow. Beth's eyes got big. Obviously they are keeping thing hush.

Dan can you post a link up to that interview?

[Jessie]

Is Jossy saying in the last paragraph of that article that a clairvoyant is going to be looking at cell phone tower reports? And is he saying that there is a cell phone tower by the Aruba Racquet Club?

[Jessie]

That article seems to be saying the the Dario has publised a cell phone tower site report in that paper. Does anyone have access to that report?
That would be a big help in putting things together.

[kescah]

So what should I watch tonight? The Abrams Report or Cannity and Holmes? They are on at the same time. Or are they both so good that I should watch one and tape the other? Thanks.

[GrannyHouston]

Jessie
All this cell phone stuff leads back to the original mysterious cell phone call perhaps from Natalee. As I understand it was received by a MB student "on the bus" on the way home after the airplane flight. This mention happened in the Greta interview with the two girls Frances Ellen Byrd and Miss McVay. Somehow it was removed from the transcript and maybe because it was personal conversation between the two on TV or because it is evidence.

This seems to be important. Because of it someone contacted Charles Croes in Aruba very late at night to ask questions as stated on the Greta interview. Didn't Mrs. Twitty know about this call prior to meeting the van der Sloots the first night.

Does anyone remember more about the girls relating the phone call?

Granny Houston

[Jessie]

The point is that Joran and Deepak were both carrying cell phones that night. I think that there may be a clue there that the cell phone tracking of the boys cell phones puts them (or at least Deepak) in the immediate area of the Aruba Racquet Club because there is a cell phone tower right by the Racquet Club. And at least one of the boys cell phone (maybe Deepak) was in that location between the hours of 2:30 am and 3:00 am that morning.

[Amanda]

Yes, Jessie that is what the Dario is suggesting in the last paragraph there term (cell site) would be equal to our term cell tower. I do not know of any report where the cell phone towers are listed but I have located where I believe the two on the island are. They are on the islands two highest points. One at the east end and one at the west in.

[Amanda]

The cell phone towers are possibly represented on this map by the yellow dots indicating a high elevation. As we all know towers are best located in higher elevations so that trees and mountains can not interfere with the cell transmission. See the link: http://www.maps.com/referenceProduct.aspx?cid=649&pid=11902

[Jessie]

Amanda: There have to be more than 2 cell tower sites on that island. I would estimate that there would be at least 6 towers. One tower can only handle 160 calls at one time. If there were only two towers in Aruba, only 320 people could be using there cell phones at one time on the entire island.

[Jessie]

Excuse me. Make that 640 connections at one time on 2 towers.

[Jessie]

Amanda: I believe those two main towers you cite are the central proecessing equipment towers for the providers on the island. Those main towers communicate with the smaller towers scattered over the island.

[Roy]

Diario writes that there is an american clairevoyant who stated that this young lady (Natalee) is in a well.
A well as deep as a lamppost. In that same area there must be a tower of a cell-site.
Diario also writes that right next to the Aruba Raquet Club there is such a cell-site.
For whatecer this is worth ...

[Roy]

I should go to bed.
typo: whatecer = whatever (of course).

[Amanda]

Jessie,

You maybe right but according to a Cingular employ that is a friend a cell tower can work for approximately 75 miles and with the size of Aruba it would only take two cell towers to work an island that size (per square footage).

[kescah]

Miller said that psychics have not been correct in their predictions in his experience with Equusearch.

[speaker]

american clairvoyant and diario should get together and write daily predictions to one another.. they can name it yet another wishing well, and or join the enquirerer and contribute more of their dreams...yes, we shall, we will, we see this coming to big big things, if and when we decide to interrogate chief who was waving the magic wand with paulus daily and directing what should be told what should be hidden....peace to the world

[Kay]

Clarivedente is a person on the island!

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

"here it states that the queen will visit Curacao on July 27

(arrival in Curacao and 29th Dutch Antilles)"

http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/content.jsp?objectid=9025

I translated this to english [using >>

http://ets.freetranslation.com/ ]

----------

I wrote to the queen on JUNE 19th...

...........................
POSTED: June 19, 2005 05:36 AM
...........................

We can appeal to the Dutch Monarch:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

TO: Her Majesty, Beatrix Wilhelmina Armgard of Orange-Nassau

(born January 31, 1938) is the Queen of the Kingdom of the

Netherlands, having acceded to the throne in 1980.
[Quoted from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_of_the_Netherlands ]

Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | June 19, 2005 05:36 AM
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I never received an answer......
----------

Here it states that the queen will visit Curacao on July 27.

(arrival in Curacao and 29th Dutch Antilles)"

http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/content.jsp?objectid=9025

I translated this to english [using >>

http://ets.freetranslation.com/ ]

----------

Could some dutch speaker possibly make some clarifications on

these words?

regeringsjubileum
kingdoms game
festiviteiten
jubileummunt
huldiging

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/content.jsp?

objectid=9025 >>> translated this to english below >>>>>>>>.

Her Majesty the Queen is Friday 29 July in willem city on Curaçao

in the frame of her 25-birthday regeringsjubileum person present

at the closing of the kingdoms game

The very same day they in the Central Bank of the Dutch Antilles

the first jubileummunt of the Dutch Antilles hits and Aruba and

has sat in the meeting with of the both countries. The Queen is

accompanied by her visit by ma. A. Pechtold, minister of

Administrative Renewal and kingdoms relations. The chairman of

the National Committee Silver Regeringsjubileum, mw. Yvonne

Carpenter-Buck will attend the festiviteiten also.

Wednesday 27 july round 16.40 hour the Queen arrives on Curaçao.

She is welcomed together with minister Pechtold on the airport by

the Governors of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba, the both

Ministers-presidents, the Chairmen of the both States and the

Gezaghebber of the island territory Curaçao.

Friday 29 july round 10.00 hour arrives the Queen by the Central

Bank of the Dutch Antilles in willem city, where she becomes

goods received through the ministers of Finances of the Dutch

Antilles and Aruba. After short speeches of the both ministers

and the Cashier of the Royal Dutch Coin, the Queen hits the first

jubileummunten of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. The

jubileummunten, an initiative of the Royal Dutch Coin, have a

nominal value of 5 guilder/florin (silver) and 10 guilder/florin

(gold). The jubileummunt of the Dutch Antilles has been designed

is by Tirzo Martha and the Arubaanse coin form data by Frank L.

Croes. Round 12.00 hour the Queen in the Marriott Hotel speaks

sat in with of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. During the meeting

meets the Queen under other representatives of social

institutions and old-officials from government and parliament

with who they during the ended 25 year contact has had., . Round

17.15 hour the Queen in the SDK Stadium Brievengat lives the

second half bee of the end soccer game of the kingdoms game.

After the huldiging of the winners in presence of the Queen, the

kingdoms games are closed with a cultural event with music, dance

and theater.

The kingdoms games, intended for the youth of the Kingdom of the

the Netherlands, are this year by 23 till and with 29 July on

Curaçao. The kingdoms games are organized round the year,

changing on Antilliaanse, Arubaanse and Dutch bottom. During

this sport event, 500 younger persons come bow against each other

from in branches of sport.

24 June 2005
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> END TRANSLATION >>>>>>>>>>>>.

Is this basically for SOCCER GAMES in some reference to her

birthday???

-- something Joran vd S may have participated in??

[kescah]

Just heard a man on Scarborough Country that when someone said to Deepak that he had been seen behind the Racquet Club that night, "he turned ashen and white and turned over the dominoes and left the game."

Also, the girl that disappeared in Jamaica in 2000- search dogs went after a hotel employee and the trunk of his car- but Jamaica didn't pursue the information! They didn't want it known that a hotel employee would have dunnit. Upset the tourists. If I were a tourist there, I'd be much more upset that the gov't wouldn't pursue the suspect!

[Jessie]

The person translateing that article must be translateing WELL as CELL. A WELL SITE rather than a CELL SITE. If Jossy is talking about a clairvoyant and WELL sites, Jossy should just go back to bed and forget this foolishness. I thought they talking about some serious stuff that one could sink their brains into. Last I heard the clairvoyant had Miller looking in the ocean for a box.

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

Anyone wondering about "psychics?"

In the past I did some 'magic' -- illusions, misdirection, tricks, 'mind-reading', hypnotism. In short, I've studied the art of fooling people. I've done it myself in the past. You can do your own research and find out how!

PSYCHICS ARE PLAYING GAMES -- GUESSING --

'DECEIVING and BEING DECEIVED'

See for your self: Cold Reading: The Tricks of the Psychics
by William Goldberg, MSW, BCD

http://www.blgoldberg.com/PSYCHICS.htm
........................
I have posted a number questions to so-called 'psychics' on these forums for weeks and none have answered them.
None have passed my tests. One even wrote to me describing how she made her "guesses!"

Most everyone here has been trying to guess the scenario that took place. But most everyone here is honest enough to say it is just a guess.

Only a dishonest person makes the guess and then tries to make people believe it is due to some 'special knowledge' or 'magic.'

Your guesses and investigations are far better!

TIM MILLER said in Scared Monkies interview:

"There has been a psychic named Mary Ann Morgan that has been working with the family. ... but as far as this case there has been no help through any psychics. Psychics have not been involved with TX E searches, but have called us with information on many searches. None of their information ever panned out." http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1319

Dave Holloway said last night they have not been much help.

This is not surprising!

[calista]

Diario writes that there is an american clairevoyant who stated that this young lady (Natalee) is in a well.
A well as deep as a lamppost. In that same area there must be a tower of a cell-site.
Diario also writes that right next to the Aruba Raquet Club there is such a cell-site.
For whatecer this is worth ...

Posted by: Roy | July 27, 2005 01:08 AM

isn't there a well on the vandesloot property? not that I believe much in some "psychic" buddy of jossy

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

BE ON THE LOOK OUT---

I had to go away to do some research on something I remembered.
This may be why things have just started to happen????

Here it states that the queen will visit Curacao on July 27. (arrival in Curacao and 29th Dutch Antilles)"
http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/content.jsp?objectid=9025
I posted the english version on:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/commissioner_do.html#comment-7608337
...............
I wrote to the queen on JUNE 19th...
Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | June 19, 2005 05:36 AM
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I never received an answer......

[publius]

paulus, anita, joran, kalpoe bro's and parents, satan awaits you. kalpoe and van der slut parents... you gave birth to murderers. Paulus, you try to cover this up? Kalpoe 3rd world garbage agrees to cover for joran? God will shed light upon your interposition and nullification. Most of us hope, joran and satish and deepak, that your parents suffer tragically painful and unexpected judgments. God is a just God. Dont you pagan 3rd world dutch idiot and sumatran hut building mofo's get it?
your soul belongs to satan, but your lives until your death belong to natalee.
You cant hide ... it is done.

[kescah]

How nice that the Queen will be in the area. I hope things are in better shape when she arrives! Her subjects need to be less distracted.

I doubt most of us wish painful deaths on the suspect's parents! How horrid.

[Isanah]

I don't feel that Joran's parents should be so harshly judged. Many "good" parents have been shocked by the actions of their children. No parent wants to believe the worst of their child. I would not assist my child in any crime, but I don't know that I would condemn them without proof of the crime! We really do not have any idea whether Joran's parents are privy in knowing anymore than we do about the NH demise. Even if he said "no body, no crime" or whatever, it may have meant reassurance that someone not guilty will not be prosecuted if there isn't enough evidence of a crime. If they believe Joran is innocent, would it not be natural to reassure him of that fact? Personally, I feel he may be guilty, but, unfortunately, there is little prove of this!

[Isanah]

Oops, proof of this. No way to edit here Dan?

[Berry]

I don't know about this lead or this pond. And who would trust the Diario, after the Hubert escapade, where he was within minutes of brokering a "happy ending", 5 weeks ago?

It makes no sense to w/hold information for months. None. Diario says he was afraid of losing his gardener job? Because there are no other openings in Aruba? And then the witness describes a scene that replicates the arrests of the prime suspects - ducking in back seat, hiding face, that was pictured on TV and on the www over and over?

Nope. Not buying it. And I'm not buying this supposed "statement of fact from Joran". I want the Diario to tell me what questions were being asked, when the statements were made. Could make all the difference.

[Karen]

Why do the Dutch talk so weird? And what the heck is a Dario anyway?

[iremember]

karen
lol
it's the translation, similar (but a bit better) than you might get from Babelfish. Plus the local style seems to be a little "sentimental" for lack of a better word.
Anyone out there able to give us a more idiomatic translation on this?

[n2005]

Dario is the equivalent to the enquirer news here I believe.

[iremember]

oh, and the headline is certainly funny, to english readers....

[Kap]

Berry - you don't have to buy it. There's a reason they are draining this pond. The Twitty's PI has even talked to this witness and finds him credible. There is also a reason this investigation is moving at a pace that will result in answers. The Twitty's even have more info that they are allowed to speak of that directly points to the clowns Kalpoe and Joran. The gardener is credible. He's not even asking for any monetary reward. What's funny is people like you who find it hard to believe that Joran and the Kalpoe bros are not involved, yet they lie and were the last ones seen alive with her? It's amazing really.

What is also not hard to believe is Joran's leaked statement about Deepak being the main guy in Natalee's death? THE JIG IS UP FOR THESE BOZOS ane justice for Natalee will be served very very SOON. I'll take the word of Jug and Beth over any clueless opinion you have based on your blind and misjudged faith in Joran? YOUR BOY IS GOING DOWN!

[sherrie]

I am confused about the cell phone. Could someone please clarify for me. Did a MB student receive a phone call FROM Natalie's cell phone the day after she was missing? Was it her personal cell phone or a purchased cell phone? I thought that I read that her personal cell phone was still with her luggage in her room. If it was a purchased cell phone could it be that the abductors had discarded Natalie's belongings or she had dropped the phone on the beach or elsewhere and someone had found the cell phone and called the last # dialed to see who answered? I have found a cell phone before in a parking lot and in an attempt to locate the owner I hit redail to see who answered and ask if they could locate the owner. Could this be a possibility? Just a thought.

[TJ]

Kap, Natalees words "I don't know these people" is not referring the three you like to be hanged... How come...?

[Sarah]

Supposedly 2 students received mysterious cellphone calls on their way home.. apparently they didn't see the calls until they got home probably because of no service at the time the calls were made. Apparently one of the receivers of these calls had garbled voice mail. So what I gather the Twitty family contacted the cell phone company in Aruba to find out who owned the phone that this call came from. Apparently it was Joran's phone since they took Mr. Croes, the owner of the cell phone company, with them (the Twitty's and police) to Joran's house that night.

[letsthinkaboutit]

Maybe - just Maybe - these "New Witnesses" springing up C/O Jossy Boy - are his doing

Think about it -
Didn't Jossy Boy state last night that he has been in this business for over 30 something years and he knows everything that goes on -
Well, perhaps he knew about these witnesses and when the reward money blossomed - he "Convinced" these witnesses to fess up - and perhaps "share the lotto"

I don't know -- Just a thought.

[JailLess1]

Look what I came up on all!! With this you can see EVERYONES & all pictures in cyber land... http://www.flickr.com./ ! Now scroll to the bottom ( it says TYPE PHOTO OF)& type in Joran's name (we'll use him for example) click "EVERYONES PHOTO'S? (2) Hit popular tags (3) go to search button, type name of image, person or whatever...and waa laa!!!!!!!!!! Look at all the pics! Try searching other related names to the case! Also, there is a pic of the panties they found on the beach. Someone on the boards shared this hot link w/ us. Cool huh?!

[Granny Toad]

Imagine an ancient column of salt that dried on & off during the various times this planet, over geologic time, had deeper or shallower seas caused by cycles of glaciation & global warming.

This salt is somewhat captured by an ancient coral community formation or deposition of old broken parts as a deeper sea dried up. OK. Now it's a small island. This salt gets dissolved on top by occasional rainfall, and from below by underlying seawater filtering through all that since it's near an island edge. In places you get an assortment of low places, fairly permanent holes.

Dig a little in the mud, dump in a compact 110-lb something. It may continue settling & sinking due to specific gravity. Let a month or more pass.

Then intentionally cause a few more weeks to pass.

I wonder what are the odds they can dig deep enough and/or pump out enough mud?

I don't much care why Tim Miller needs to have altered the way he states things, but I know what I myself have heard him to say, and that he's returned to Aruba, says what he thinks an audience wants to hear as Rx, and more than anything prefers the ability to produce the desired result.

[Granny Toad]

OK. The 110-lb item may sink, have sunk beyond recovery. But maybe not flipflops or an Alabama driver's license. Specific gravity.

[Granny Toad]

DNA.

We saw Paulus' car yesterday, it's back. Has anyone seen Deepak's?

[Granny Toad]

Still no new baby woman named Anna, Mylena? Maybe tonight? How are you feeling?

[Granny Toad]

*shrug* There is nothing I am able nor willing to do for anyone who takes separate statements about two different issues and forms a new reality "implied" from them. I wasn't a participant.

[AkekoaHoAlethia]

JailLess1
"TYPE PHOTO OF"
That is really a nice tool....

Thanks a lot!!!!