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dan

everybody's a star, huh?

how much do you think the enquirer paid this guy and where do you think he found out about rose palmer, a chrystal ball?

they are all self seekers here IMHO

well it looks like their 15 mins have expired.

thanks for the post

I received my "Hope for Natalee" bracelet today. I was hoping the case would be resolved before I received it but.... The proceeds from the bracelet sales go toward helping the family with expenses.

http://wzzk.com/event_guide/nataleehollowaybracelets.html

A week earliet the Enquirer said Natalee died of an Ecstacy overdose.

I am used to people being loose with the truth who have any association with the VDS Family.

Of course she blabbed and being a big shot when telling it. When caught, she denies it happened. Kinda familiar, isn't it?

Lies never end on this case, do they?

thanks dennis

did you ever check out that address i told you about?

scary stuff

My reaction is that this woman probably does know the VDS family. She probably did talk to the man, but may have not told him what the PVS family told her. She wanted to throw everyone off track because it would give JVS the ability to "time out" in detainment. I think she wants the real truth to come out, but not have her name associated with it because of her association with AVS and PVS. I think she tried to throw us a hint that the school folks know more. Why would she have said that if she didn't know something? There was no reason to mention the school. No - she clearly was lying to cover herself because of her association with the VS family, but I get the feeling she does know something also tried to give us a "clue" because she may really want the real truth to come out. Interesting.

I know rosa palmer henriquez where owner of surf store the beachbum for more then a decade they went out of bussiness eand moved to the states its true thier kids were at the international school, but she has not returned to the island for the past few years

thanks maria

you can always be counted on for the truth!!

I read the story and you just never know anymore what is a truth and what is not a truth.
So many bits and pieces coming form everywhere from so many.
The puzzle in this case is so big and their are so many missing pieces.
I still hope and continue to pray that the truth, "the real truth" will be told about
what happened to Natalee.
Thank you Dan for keeping us up to date on all you find out for those of us that continue to be interested in "HOPE" that Beth will know what happened to her daughter.

AND...just a brief note to all of you that have helped me, I am forever grateful to you ! Just want you to know this. So much of my time these days is spent on the phone with so many and attending meetings and meeting with county folks and state folks about us getting some relief and help for our demise here is Georgia because of this devasting 100 year flood that caused so much destruction to us and many many others. The process is so slow and you are just another number. Its very depressing and so disputive to all here. Maybe someday they will sort it all out and give us the help we need..In the meantime we continue to have no answers or no promise of help. We continue only to have Hope as well that sometihing somewhere somehopw will pan out.
Thanks again,
Mary Anne Lunsford
Mableton, Georgia
ref...
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/news/index.html
Some of you have mailed something to me and did nto put a return address so I have no way of emailing you to personlly thank you so I am doing that now. I will email the rest of you when I get can. THANK YOU ALL. Almost unreal the kindness you have shown me. :o) God Bless !!!

MrsJimiHendrix,


Yes, I checked it out. In doing so, I saw a reference to Rep. Dana Rohrbacher of CA. I used to work for his college roommate and very good friend. While I am a libertarian sympathizer, I didn't think him very very friendly or personable. Didn't know he had such views on the Middle East, either.

check out scared monkeys for a breaking update about FBI access to evidence ...

very interesting.

Hi I just wanted to know how I can receive a Natalee bracelet to wear? I live in Belgium, do they send them here too?? And how do I have to pay?? Anyone with more info, thanxx, I plann to wear it till Natalee is found.

ELISSSA

i believe someone posted that above but if not
go to www.nataleeholloway.net!! good luck!!


DENNISAOK

i have no idea what you are referring to about dana rorebacherr

california is the most populated state in the US and the 9th largest economy in the world

rorbacher has nothing to do with my part of california, so what was your point, if any?

I can't believe that some of these stories keep getting retold, such as she fell and hit her head and died or od'd on ecstasy. Please!!!

Give me a break. IF she died accidentally, why wouldn't whoever was with her call the police? I just think the whole idea that if you are with someone and they supposedly drop dead by accident, you get rid of the body and lie? I don't think so!!

You can order the bracelets from this place:

http://wzzk.com/event_guide/nataleehollowaybracelets.html

kerrilynn I agree with you completely.

kerrilynn212 I think unfortunately, yes, you would.

"you" in the sense "one", the Jorans, clearly not us!!

Breaking news: Aruban PM and Minister of Justice to Aruban LE: “Hand It Over”
by ArubaGirl

According to breaking news passed on local radio station Top 95.1 a few minutes ago, Aruban Prime Minister Nel Oduber and Minister of Justice Rudy Croes ordered all materials pertaining to the Natalee Holloway investigation to be given to the FBI.

UPDATE: As confirmed by sources at Aruba Today, the following statement has been issued by the Aruban Government:

The Government of Aruba would like to confirm by legal means necessary to guarantee the involvement of the FBI in regards to the investigation about the disappearance of Ms. Natalee Holloway. This involvement is to be all levels, which means that the FBI must have complete access to the dossier, including transcripts, audio tapes or video registration of interrogations, plus all materials that are connected to this case, in as much as our judicial system allows.

In case the current phase of investigation limits mentioned involvement, than the instruction is to use all legal means necessary to allow and even guarantee complete access to the FBI. If external expertise in reference to above is required, you are hereby authorized and instructed to do so.

Lastly, it is imperative that there should not be any doubt at all that Aruban authorities guarantee full cooperation in this case with the American authorities, as has been the case since the beginning, within the boundaries of our judicial system. (Red)

I never did hear about that bone they found. How can they say "accident." They found duct tape in the vandersloots house or that car, from the best I can remember. Why would anyone duct tape an accident victim? Why would anyone duct tape a body? Maybe she is alive somewhere. Maybe they just wanted to keep her from leaving because they were going to keep her in a cave or somewhere and have her around. That island seems to be tied up with a lot of "good buddy" stuff, for sure, but there has got to be someone on that police force who is a real policeman at heart.

I never did hear about that bone they found. How can they say "accident." They found duct tape in the vandersloots house or that car, from the best I can remember. Why would anyone duct tape an accident victim? Why would anyone duct tape a body? Maybe she is alive somewhere. Maybe they just wanted to keep her from leaving because they were going to keep her in a cave or somewhere and have her around. That island seems to be tied up with a lot of "good buddy" stuff, for sure, but there has got to be someone on that police force who is a real policeman at heart.

Run that photo one more time with the link. phuckem I say. Nice promotion for them with a hyperlink to help. I ordered my bracelet!

I also knew Rosa quite well, and they have been off island for several years, no one has seen her for a long time.
I would imagine that Mr. Dooley may have shopped at her store and commented on her interesting accent, asking where she came from, so he found out she had lived in Aruba. I get it in Aruba all the time when when visitors hear my American accent and wonder how I came to hear. He may have even asked her what she thought about what was going on in Aruba at the time, or if she knew the people involved, that is not such a strange conversation.
By the way, the bone that was found turned out to be a bone from a donkey. We have wild donkeys here, and sometimes they die of old age and the bones are around. I also have duct tape in my home, as does just about any homeowner anywhere.
I know Buchi Rasmijn, the Ranger that found it, and he is a sincere guy who is just trying to help. By the way again, Prosecutor Jansen did not just "go on vacation" she went with the hair and DNA samples to see that they got to the laboratory in Holland properly. Any other questions that need clearing up, that you haven't gotten the full story on?

The investigative experts on Bill O'Reilly's program that Dan posted a link to a couple of days ago made a lot of sense to me. Natalee may have OD'ed or had some other accident that caused her death. There was a reason why the perps panicked and felt that they had to dispose of her body rather than calling for help or coming out and declaring the accidental death: SOME OTHER CRIME OR CRIMES HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.

Why would the perps not want the body viewed? What would her body have looked like?

Joran had a bruise. It is therefore likely that Natalee's body was also bruised. This is assault.

Joran boasted of sex with Natalee at school. It is likely that semen of Joran and probably the brothers would be found on her body. This is a rape charge.

Natalee may have taken or have been forced to take XTC or a date rape drug to overcome her resistance to sex with one to three guys. Notice that Joran wants to paint the picture of Natalee taking drugs already at Carlos and Charlie's as though to put the responsibility on her. Her friends say she did not. If she ODed or fell over and hit her head woozy from drugs they gave her, they directly contributed to her death.

Something happened or there was some circumstance that made it difficult for Natalee to be coherent in describing her predicament in those two cell phone calls she probably made ca 3 am. Drugs? Hurt?

The implication of all this is that the perps let Natalee die rather than getting her help. Remember the post from the woman who worked with drug prevention that said that kids would abandon even their close friends when things went wrong and they might be implicated in activities that they didn't want known?

The former FBI person on O'Reilly's show said that the perps would go somewhere familiar. We need to direct searches to areas that they are familiar with.

I am a dowser. My dowsing says that Natalee is under water somewhere. She is not in the old well on the van der Sloot property, however. I can't get a reading on where she is yet.

Am I the only person in the world who thinks the fire at the landfill where searchers were looking for Natalee was very "convenient"? That's probably the area where the witness said he saw her being buried. The place there that was filled in after Equusearch spent two weeks digging is also another setback. This has been a cover-up from the get-go. Thanks to Jossy Mansur and his familys help to Beth, this will never be out of the public's eye. I just hope justice is served. punkingale

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