Aruban Media Faults FBI: Calls Americans "Suspects"

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Over the week-end local authorities decided to start “talking” to some members of the family and amongst others decided to talk to Natalee’s father. He became very furious about this and at certain moment decided to leave the table and abandon the police precinct. He did not agree with the form in which he was “attacked”. As such the father refused to cooperate in answering questions that were put to him by the investigating team.

In the meantime we could hear and see on CNN how the step father, mr. Twitty, threatened to disclose damaging information if one or more of the suspects is released. He did not wish to say anything else but we can see here that this person has started to threaten the Aruba authorities and question the country’s judicial system. This is not acceptable.

For what the suspects in the USA are concerned – we cannot qualify them otherwise – we think the FBI has work to do to find out if they really wish to cooperate to bring this case to an end. By the way, on the FBI website Natalee Holloway does not appear as a missing person.

Comments

[harry]

We Americans should take these Aruban criticisms seriously. Clearly, the adventure into prosecuting the three kids is going nowhere. If we ever want to find Natalee, we need to start looking into the people whom were closest to her.

[Canadian Girl]

Is this the new tactic now???

Are they really suggesting that her family who was not even on the island had something to do with this???

That is the most disgusting and vile thing I have ever heard.

Yea, it's much more reasonable to think this devastated family who were not on the island are resposible as opposed to the guy sitting in jail spewing lies who was the last to see her!!!

[calisat]

I am just confused....first...why is natalees real dad never on tv with ehr mom? why do they never appear together? also I keep hearing beth and her husband talk about "shocking" information they have about this case and things they know but they keep sayign they can't talk about it......frankly this infuriates me.......it can't compromise the investigation which is already so messed up it is ridiculous.....it is like the aruba police threatened them if they tal;k they will stop looking for natalee...if they are even looking for her....something very suspicious is going on in my eyes......none of this makes sense and clearly aruba is not looking to solve this case just cover it up

[harry]

Canadian Girl:

The FBI has not done their job!

[wreck]

Wait for the three days inwhich appeals can be made before you see the Twittys "unleash hell."

[calista]

why is natalee not listed on the fbi missing person list? this all just wrong wrong wrong

[wreck]

"why is natalee not listed on the fbi missing person list? this all just wrong wrong wrong"
--calista
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Because MAYBE the FBI knows where she is at and can't recover/retrieve her.

[mrs. MojoRisin']

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[TS]

I just don't understand why they were questioning HIM??? This case is really troubling in more ways than one. But as hard as it surely must have been, Jug probably should have kept his cool. As the saying goes, "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." But honestly, I probably would have lost my cool, too. This poor family has been going through hell for over a month. We all have our breaking point.

[sleuth]

Natalee's father, Dave Holloway, was on the other night and said he was leaving Aruba to spend the holiday with his children. I have seen him with his ex-wife, and saw an interview that said that both families got along pretty well. Don't know if that means he is back yet, or even if he was coming back. Maybe it depends on what is happening or not.

Arubans protesting the American press are crucifying their future. At least no one else should be fooled into letting their children loose on such a corrupt place. Aruba reminds me of the snake devouring its own tail.

[Gale]

Natalee's mom and dad are divorced and both have remarried, so it's not odd that they don't appear on tv together.

harry,
have ya been following this case long? Her family was in THE STATES when she went missing!

[BamaMom]

I could not care less what the Arubans think of Americans, and I feel certain that 99% of U.S. citizens feel the same way. I am not taking their criticism any more seriously than THEY are taking the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. As I said many weeks ago, I wanted Iraq to be nuked when I saw their native animals beheading Americans. I feel the same way about Aruba. It is an impoverished country that milks it's living from the deep pockets of resort-hopping Americans. My pocket change could buy any lowlife there a new home and food for a year. What exact purpose does Aruba serve to the U.S., or to anyone except the mafia drug cartels that run it? Criticize us? Call us suspects? ll. The U.S. needs to consider this a terrorist action, go in and find Natalee, and allow Aruba to rot in it's self-made Hell.

[harry]

Gale:

Yes, I have been following the case from the beginning. Actually, I am closer to this case than I should be ... or want to be.

[harry]

BamaMom:

Obviously, the Bamas have nothing to hide, why would they be worried, if the Arubans wanted to question them?

[AnnaA]

>>Field Offices will respond to cases involving the mysterious disappearance of a child whenever and however they come to the attention of FBI personnel. All reports of circumstances which indicate a minor has, or possibly has, been abducted are afforded an immediate Preliminary Inquiry. In order for the FBI to initiate any investigation, it must have specific facts which indicate that a violation of federal law within the FBI's jurisdiction may have occurred.<<

So as the Arubans have reminded us hourly since this young woman disappeared within THEIR jurisdiction, this is NOT the jurisdiction of the FBI. Should they have listed her on their listing I am sure these same victim bashers would have been complaining that this case was not the FBI's to investigate.

Know this game, have seen it before. Blame the victim instead of the perps always, right?

[Paying Attention]

It is an absolute sin that ANYONE in Aruba is accusing a member of the Holloway/Twitty family of any involvement, for two reasons. First of all, as many of you have mentioned, and as the public knows, they were all in the U.S.A. Secondly, it is one of their own citizens who is the prime suspect in this case! Aruba's concern with it's precious "tourism" has turned this case into a miscarriage of justice, and the entire thing has been mishandled from the beginning. Also, the favortism with the Vandersloot family, I'm guessing because of Mr. Vandersloot's position, is inexcusable! The U.S.A. offered every resource available, including F.B.I. agents to expedite the handling so Beth can find her daughter, and Aruba was so smug that it has refused. The progress has gone backwards, and the position of the case now is disgraceful. I will NEVER visit this supposed "safe place." I guess it's not so safe after all! Natalee is not the first young woman this has happened to!

[Moscow girl]

Oh my goodness....... Some Amerikans can get so nasty, when things don't go their way..... ;-)

Unfortunately, the "core of the issue" has split.

There is an issue of a young human missing, and all should be done to find her, BUT JUST LIKE EVERYTHING SHOULD BE DONE TO FIND EVERY MISSING PERSON in this world!

And then there is an issue of "Amerikan attitude" (with a disclaimer that it is limited to certain States, media, and groups of people) that splis outside of "the essence of this tragedy"...... And what I see is:

- "Rah, rah! America" Fox news milking this issue to the max, enticing "nationalistic outrage" with few drops of "santity" occasionally coming from Greta and few guest speakers.

- Posters who can't afford to go to Miami, let alone to Aruba, yet screaming "I never spend my dollar in Aruba again"...... well, judging by the level of your intellect, you don't have a dollar to go to Aruba or Hawaii.....

- All the "US political reps" on State and National level "writing to Aruban authorities" to "take an action"..... And all they want is to be re-elected.... and in their position "have to do" this.

- Then we have "Natalee's parents". I am certain the mother is hurting........ But there is a "right way" and the "wrong way" to express one's frustrations. If she is such a lady, what's with "venom" against "everything that's not like it is in Amerika".. "Hurt" should not become "hate".....

To all of your who is threatenting violence against "Aruba", "Surinam boys", "Joran's family...

First of all, if you are such proud Amerikans, you're walking on your own consitutional principles:

- innocent till proven guilty.

- within an established legal system to respect the decision of the court.

- not to take a "law into your own hands".

It is sickenning to watch the US Media (Fox) circus created around this story..... It's not helping the investigation. Maybe the process requires help...... but you don't force help, you offer it and in a gracious way..... you buchered your own goal by beeing bullies and decending on the "foreign land" like locust.....

Natalee's parents should not "fall upon Aruba" like conquistadores...... "we are the people of the mighty nation, give us our daughter or else"... People go missing all over the world! it's not a "war call" against "Amerika".

Quite blaming "Joran" for being out at a Casino on a school night! Your daughter was drinking, and gambling, and whatever....... 2 days out of school! And no, it's not a reason to be hurt..... But teens are teens....... Natalee, Joran, the brothers...... other teens on the trip... They all entertained themselves at the SAME PLACES with the same glass of drinks! over the same roulette table!

It's shamefull that Dan's "foreword" states that "offensive language, etc" will be banned from his sight...... Yet he allows threats of violence to be expressed quite openly and with no consquences.

Words such as:

- Nuke Aruba
- Take a baseball batt to Joran's family
- threats of violence against people who are expressing opposing views to the "mad had Amerikans".....

I made good copies of all such "extremes" from this site, and sent it to Aruban and Holland government officials (and FBI with a warning that this site allows threats of violence), with a plea to take into consideration that this is a very small percentage of "Amerika", and let it not become the "sentiment of the whole country".

The first place I sent it to is Aruban court house and officials...... the second was to all major Aruban newspapers. You "Alabama mama/papas" and other "red necks" want to make asses of yourself.... go right ahead..... it's a free country. But other countries are free to know "what kind of asses you are".

Most of the country is not even aware of the "extreme tension" in regards to this case. People will still visit Aruba....

I am planning 2 charter flights during X-mas to Aruba, on B747, full of Russian tourists from the Russian Far East....... Your loss is our gain!

Oh, and did I just read in the newspaper, that Toyota is NOT going to build a factory in Alabama, but rather will build one in Canada, because they found the "average person" illiterate and under-educated.....

How smart of them...... not to get involved with a place that has so many "Lindy Englands" running around...... Nobody will bring the great "Amerika" down, it will do it all on its own if the blimey government does not take up EDUCATING YOUR BUNCH.

With all that said, I hope the case of Natalee is soon solved, and regadless of "nasty attitude" her mother finds peace.

[harry]

A sin, now? It is a sin for the Aruban police to conduct an investigation! I wonder Joran thinks about that.

[AnnaA]

So in Aruba the local predators are free to stalk and prey on the tourists, drug, rape and murder (their charge, not mine) and make the body disappear and if Americans don't like it, they will cast asperions on your parents.

Dave Holloway digging in that garbage dump for his daughter is one of the most haunting images I have of this whole tragedy and one of the saddest things I have ever seen. He and Beth and Jug have all three appeared together several times but did anybody think that maybe the family has tried to spread out to cover more ground?

Well, no wouldn't want to do that nor cast any blame on the Pride of Aruba Joren and the wolves who raised him, would we? Not all the sharks are in the water.

[DT]

Maybe they aren't worried just insulted at the idiocy of police who think they could have been involved when they were across the ocean at the time. If I was the father I would have walked out as well.

If this sort of attitude represent the majority view in Aruba, then I can personally say that I'll be overjoyed when their economy turns to shit once americans get word of this crap.

[michele in bham]

Hey Harry, if you were close to the case as you claim you would know that Natalee's dad isn't from Alabama.

[harry]

That post was a hard act to follow Moscow Girl!

[harry]

Michelle:

I do know that.

[AnnaA]

Moscow Girl,
No, you did NOT read that Toyota would not build their plant here because we are illiterate because it is already built and functioning and so is the Mercedes and Hyundai is under construction so guess we know who the illiterate one is for looks like you are the one who cannot read.

Yes, the FBI exists to assist Russian citizens and therefor is very concerned with your complaints I am quite sure. I would send them lots more if I were you. And I am sure you have included the threats to Americans from the Dutch and Arubans found on this site and others most especially to Mrs. Twitty, the victim's mother which can be found all over the internet.

[BamaMom]

Harry,

Did the article say that Mr. Holloway is worried? I think not. Although it was not stated, I believe the more appropriate emotion would be "insulted". How dare the Aruban media even remotely imply that anyone from the Holloway or Twitty families would be involved in this? That is not only asinine; it is unfathomable. The interrogation of the three suspects has not yielded any clues because the Aruban government does not want it to. Unfortunately for them, they underestimated our determination to resolve this situation. What a lot of fools they truly are!!!

[michele in bham]

Moscow Girl, I know people who have visited Russia, and by their personal testimony it's a stinking pig sty, very unclean.

Natalee's mother doesn't hate anyone and it's wrong of you to get on this forum and try and slander her, but from what I understand, lying is just par for the course for drunk Russians.

[DT]

It is funny how your anti-americani views have clouded your judgement in this case. This is about trying to find a missing girl. Of course, Beth is going to be aggresive in trying to find her daughter, what mother wouldn't be. She is going to be angry at the suspects involved in this case, and she is going to be angry at anyone who impedes her ability to bring her daughter home. That is not hate, and it certainly has nothing to do with her opinions concerning America or foreign countries. I am really getting tired of people like you who try to turn the case of a missing girl into ammo to be used against a country you don't like.

[michele in bham]

Harry, the only person that supposedly objects to being questioned is Natalee's dad. Yet you ask why the Bama's would mind being questioned.

You just gave yourself away as not being close to the case.

I imagine the reason that Dave Holloway objects to being questioned is the fact that the Aruban Gov. is covering up his daughters rape and murder.

He goes out and searches for her while they sit around on their butts trying to make the parents guilty of their daughters murder.

Yeah, you are about as close to this case as Moscow Girl is.

[AnnaA]

Harry,
don;t be cryptic. Why on earth are you so close to this case, closer than you want to be? Just what is your connection that is so forcible and close? Are you not just reading here, casting aspersions at the victim at every opportunity like the rest of the trolls and nasties that should not even be posting her? This is a blog FOR Natalee, not against her. Sure any theory is entertained but I do not think victim bashing was the original intent for the blog. Those of you that are only here to do that, I just must ask myself why would you do such a thing??

I remember you as the one who tried to actually fabricate out of thin air a vicious rumor about Natalee with absolutely no basis in fact for no reason other than you seem to have some sort of personal ax to grind or are just another garden variety woman hater. What is it you call a person who tries to invent a fact that does not exist to destory the reputation of another? Liar is the word that comes to my mind, what do you call it?

[harry]

Michelle and Anna:

Sorry you both feel that way.

[sleuthing]

harry can claim he is "close to the case", but just remember.....this is the internet, anybody can "claim" to be whomever they want and it doesn't make it true.

[BamaMom]

And to think of all the money I have sent to Russia to help the little Russian children escape their desolate, poverty-stricken, hopeless little lives...were you a benefactor of that money, Moscow Girl? If so, I want a refund!! Don't you have other things to worry about in the USSR, like economic disaster and Putin sending your country headfirst into WWIII? By the way, I know that illiteracy is rampant in your country, but the correct spelling is America, not Amerika. www.dictionary.com. Use it.

[bamaguy11]

harry,

thanks for nothing. say hello to the rest of the aruban police for me.

those "closest" to her were in jail. i haven't convicted joran of anything just yet. however, he was the last to see her and his lies are very troubling. where is natalee? if she is deceased, then someone ON that island is responsible.

[harry]

Why are the Bamas so upset, when they hear the Aruban police want to question them?

[BamaMom]

Harry...I'll say it again....geez...

Did the article say that Mr. Holloway is worried? I think not. Although it was not stated, I believe the more appropriate emotion would be "insulted". How dare the Aruban media even remotely imply that anyone from the Holloway or Twitty families would be involved in this? That is not only asinine; it is unfathomable. The interrogation of the three suspects has not yielded any clues because the Aruban government does not want it to. Unfortunately for them, they underestimated our determination to resolve this situation. What a lot of fools they truly are!!!

[annie]

While I do believe that JVdS and PVdS have a big responsibility in this case, I do believe that everyone (chaperones and students) that went on that trip should have been questioned that first week upon learning Natalee was missing. If nothing else, it could shed some light on this case. You know it is often small details that
solve a case.

I do believe I read somewhere that the FBI had already gone through a round of questions with the others and I would hope that they shared that information with Aruban authorities. But perhaps a second round of questioning might be in order as well. A detailed missed previously might be remembered.

I do have a question for anyone that watched the Nancy Grace show tonight. When they questioned the defense atty for the boys, he claimed that he was able to bring forth testimonies from two different fisherman that claimed they were fishing off the beach the alleged beach where Joran and Natalee were said to be from midnight until about 5 AM and that there was never a single person on the beach the entire time. They also said that they did see a Jeep on a road near the beach for about 40 min and that was the only unusual thing they noticed. It was these testimonies that supposedly got the Kalpoe boys off but that kept Joran still there (supposed to be a difference in their stories or something). But what I don't understand is that they never saw the Kalpoe car either. So how does that help the Kalpoes look innocent? Also, if they never saw Joran and Natalee on the beach, then wouldn't that also make the Kalpoes look like they were still lying and hadn't really dropped them off there? How in the world does that support their "innocence"? Any theories, or did I mishear something?

[harry]

It is not unfathomable. It is called police work.

[websleuth2]

My favorite is the Anti-Incorrect Information committee,which is not concerned with "incorrect and positive" information, only with correcting
"incorrect and negative" information.

Check this out:
http://news.caribseek.com/Aruba/AM_Digital/article_16318.shtml

Prime Minister Nelson Oduber presents “anti incorrect news” committee

by A.M. Digital

Posted: Jun 30, 2005 17:21 UTC

[bamaguy11]

harry,

i don't object to the questioning of family, friends, suspects, etc...

however, do you guys normally wait a month before starting your so-called "police work?"

the boycott by Americans isn't your biggest concern. the aruban government is shaking in their boots over the U.S.'s increasing presence in monitoring drug activity in the area.

less drug sales = less kickback to government officials

without US tourism & drug money, maybe the arubans can take back their country from the dutch outcasts would run the government.

[annie]

I think the Aruban authorities should have looked into this in the beginning. The families are now stressed and feeling left in the dark because nothing can be shared with them. They are the "victims" here, but victims are not allowed any information during an investigation cycle (or so it seems). We here in America are used to so much being shared from the early stages of an investigation, that we tend to grow paranoid when we are shut out. Now couple that with being the parent involved in your child being the victim and you can imagine how much paranoia you would build.

However, it is not unreasonable for families' backgrounds and alibis to be looked at in a missing persons case. It is done all the time in the US so it shouldn't be frowned upon when Aruba wants to do the same thing. In this case though the timing was obvious. She was missing before any of them were on the island. In fact, they were not only not on the island, they were hours by plane away from the island. But I suppose from a legal standpoint, they just have to complete that background to show the courts they thoroughly investigated all angles.

At this point, I believe the best thing the family can do is fully cooperate, while continuing to work with the Texas search team and see if they can get their daughter back. That should be their primary focus and anything they can do to "smooth" the ruffled feathers over there right now may help. They also should see if they can be working more closely with the prosecutor and find out what she is really doing. Even if she doesn't reveal details of what she does or does not have on the case, by working closely, they may pick up enough bits and pieces to learn a lot.

I praise Beth for holding up as well as she has. She is truly a remarkable woman. May the Lord give them all strength to get through this and return their daughter to them!

[harry]

BamaGuy:

I'm an American from Hawaii.

[BamaMom]

Oh I GET IT..Harry is an Aruban policeman, and the substance of his investigation is web blogs. Apparently, he only reads the posts that are anti-American, too. He doesn't seem to understand the prolific or well-written points of view, or anything that questions the Arubans in any way. Well, no wonder they can't find Natalee, or extract a confession from anyone in Aruba. I see now that I am the dumb one...all this time, I half-heartedly believed that they were actually half-heartedly investigating this matter. No, they are depending on what WE are saying happened to her, as long as "we" are cursing the Holloways and the Twittys, and America in general. Well, I say that Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoes did it, so there you are, Harry. Take a break and eat a doughnut. Do I get to ride in the police car and honk the horn for my great investigative work?

[harry]

BamaMom:

I don't eat donuts.

[harry]

BamaMom:

I've never been to Alabama.

[Biily Bob]

If the mother of NH really wants to get this investigation over with, she is going to have to demand that everyone her family and the friends of NH fully and honestly cooperate with the Arubian investigation. And they should all tell the truth and not make things up or tell false stories that will only further confuse this investigation. It is apparent that the MBH kids that have been interviewd by the press have been evasive, less than candid and some cannot keep their story straight when the appear on camera more than once or are asked essentially the same question more than once.

[BamaMom]

Harry...Then get back to work!!!

For those who saw Nancy Grace...how do we know that the stories of the fishermen were not fabricated? Heck, for that matter, we were all fishing there that night...like the Aruban police would know...

[harry]

BamaMom:

If the fishermen did not see them on the beach, maye they went into the Marriott Hotel. The Marriott is Joran's stomping ground and not the Holiday Inn.

[BamaMom]

Billy Bob,

If I am not mistaken, the MBH kids are "evasive" to the public because of some comments taken out of context in an issue of People magazine. They have cooperated fully with the investigation in every other way. However, Joran Van Der Sloot has changed his story 8 times already, and it was reported that the Kalpoes changed their stories more than once as well. Yet they are free, and Joran probably will be too at some point if this investigation continues in it's present direction. I honestly don't see how the investigation could become more confusing, but "tomorrow is another day".

[annie]

I tend to agree Billy Bob. I think that they need to cooperate and be fully honest. If any are keeping something from the authorities (or their own families because they think they will be in trouble or will look bad) they are only hurting the investigation. They may know something that could be invaluable to lead to the bottom of all of this if they would just open up and be honest. I think the priority is that everyone involved (the chaperones, kids that went on the trip, and the family members) all need to cooperate and focus on finding Natalee.

[websleuth2]

The "anti-incorrect" information campaign by the PM of Aruba has cited the mislabeling of Paul van der Sloot as a "judge" as opposed to a "judge in training". Yet, it was Anita van der Sloot who started this meme, referring to her husband as a "judge". See http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5104342,00.html