I'll leave this post up and update it unless there is something to be addressed in a full post. I have a lot of work to do on emails and other items - as I come across items of interest, I'll post them below.
Video clips related to the Investigation
The Political Teen has an audio up of Tom from Scared Monkeys on the Andy Thomas Show.
Update 10PM: A reader writes that the court cases are finished and the detentions extended an additional eight days - also, Paulus Van der Sloot will not be permitted to see his son.
Dan, thanks for all the links. Interesting reading and pics. Keep up the good work. You have done a great job!! Carry on. :o)
Posted by: Susan | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 08:48 PM
Dan,
Kepp up the good work. Maintain your credibility.
Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 09:11 PM
Here's a link to the Tatoo boat in Aruba where the fourth guy worked. The business is for sale for a $1mil. Price will probably be coming down in light of lower tourism right now.
Posted by: Big Dog | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 09:48 PM
http://uk.businessesforsale.com/uk/Exceptional-Business-Opportunity-in-Aruba-For-Sale.aspx
Posted by: Big Dog | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 09:49 PM
I have an idea as to what might have happened and how this 4th person is involved...
Maybe when the club closed the boys were telling her about the party cruise boat and they knew the dj that worked on it and they took her to see the party boat because they were friends with the guy. Maybe they called him and had him meet them there and they were showing her the boat. then, something happened.
Either they had drugged her and it was too much and she went into a coma or something or they had drugged her and were trying to seduce her and she still was able to try to fight back. They knocked her down are threw her on a bed or something, she hit her head and it knocked her out.
OR they all had there way with her while she was out of it and she began to gain her composure and realized what they had done to her and threatened to tell the police so the older 26 year old one said he would take care of her for them not to worry and she was left with the older one they arrested today.he either killed her some way or called his buds on another island to come and pick her up and dump her or he got into a smaller boat and did it himself if he dumped her in the sea or he did meet his buddies and now she is on another island being held or has been put in a brothel.
Thats why dutch boy called him the next morning at 6:30 when he got up to go to school. To see if everything was taken care of. THEY ARE ALL INVOLVED.
Yeah the brothers dropped the dutch boy off ok, after they left the party boat.Then they went home too.
does this make any sense?? possible. ??
SO...she could be alive she could be dead. THE TRUTH IS WITH THE 4 OF THEM NOW. THEY KNOW.
Posted by: Mary | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 10:59 PM
I have an idea as to what might have happened and how this 4th person is involved...
Maybe when the club closed the boys were telling her about the party cruise boat and they knew the dj that worked on it and they took her to see the party boat because they were friends with the guy. Maybe they called him and had him meet them there and they were showing her the boat. then, something happened.
Either they had drugged her and it was too much and she went into a coma or something or they had drugged her and were trying to seduce her and she still was able to try to fight back. They knocked her down are threw her on a bed or something, she hit her head and it knocked her out.
OR they all had there way with her while she was out of it and she began to gain her composure and realized what they had done to her and threatened to tell the police so the older 26 year old one said he would take care of her for them not to worry and she was left with the older one they arrested today.he either killed her some way or called his buds on another island to come and pick her up and dump her or he got into a smaller boat and did it himself if he dumped her in the sea or he did meet his buddies and now she is on another island being held or has been put in a brothel.
Thats why dutch boy called him the next morning at 6:30 when he got up to go to school. To see if everything was taken care of. THEY ARE ALL INVOLVED.
Yeah the brothers dropped the dutch boy off ok, after they left the party boat.Then they went home too.
does this make any sense?? possible. ??
SO...she could be alive she could be dead. THE TRUTH IS WITH THE 4 OF THEM NOW. THEY KNOW.
Posted by: Mary | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 10:59 PM
Sorry i posted that twice . It was a mistake.
May GOD bless NATALEE and her parents, family and friends. I hope the real truth is told!!!!
Posted by: Mary | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 11:03 PM
The brothel story seems unlikely. She is all over the news with pictures etc. The first guy that pays to have sex with her, would notify the police or FBI to collect his $50K.
Has anybody thought that the reason that N had her bags all packed up was because she was not planning to go back to the hotel that night? Rather, appear in the morning and head straight to the airport.
Posted by: Ari | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 11:21 PM
Read/listen to ALL the stories ..... her room mates packed her bags
Posted by: LJ | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 12:25 AM
What appears to be going on in Aruba, and what is actually happening are two different things...
An important, wealthy family with political ties is involved, so nothing is as it seems.
I am sure that Jordan is receiving nice home cooked meals and preferential treatment.
The "polis" in Aruba are at the beck and call of those in the judicial circuit.
Judges and Police belong to "cartels" or "mafia." The public performance we're seeing is worthy of an award and kudos (were it not for the untimely death of a young girl...)
Posted by: P | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 12:38 AM
What everyone should get used to is the fact that there is a good chance these kids will be released, unless a body is found.
Even with testimony of other Arubans, the Van der Sloots status gives their son an immunity not fathomable to most americans.
unfortunately without a body, they'll most likely walk....
Posted by: P | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 12:52 AM
P >>>>> WELL, IF THEY DO WALK I DO NOT THINK THEY WILL LIVE VERY LONG ON THAT ISLAND. IT WILL NEVER BE TH SAME FOR ANY OF THEM. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. AND...HE DARE NOT TO ATTEND COLLEGE IN THE USA.
LETS JUST PRAY THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD.
Posted by: MARY | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 12:58 AM
P >>>>> WELL, IF THEY DO WALK I DO NOT THINK THEY WILL LIVE VERY LONG ON THAT ISLAND. IT WILL NEVER BE TH SAME FOR ANY OF THEM. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. AND...HE DARE NOT TO ATTEND COLLEGE IN THE USA.
LETS JUST PRAY THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD.
Posted by: MARY | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 12:58 AM
Has anyone out there any information on a rumour, that Natalee had once been gone for 6 weeks when she was in Cancun, Mexico and that she had disappeared once more even before that?
If you think that the father of Joran has a lot of influence, what about mr. Holloway or the mrs., private jets available at the snap of a finger? Wasn't a Holloway special agent for Bush in Kosovo?
Posted by: Black Lable | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 01:06 AM
That fumor was put to rest long ago and Natalee's mom did not get to Aruba in a fingersanp it was 12 long hours. Are you always prone you exaggeration or is this just a blog problem you have?
Posted by: Island Hopper | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 01:24 AM
Dan,
Wrong, the father is permitted to see his son
Where are you in China
Sry Dan I love you and your blog
but to tell me the father is not permited be by the judge is wrong
Posted by: glenda | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 02:21 AM
P. you made my day, i can not stop laughing about your stupid coments, i sugust you to see on the internet about all the missing children in alabama (and the USA))With all the respect for the family involved
Posted by: glenda | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 02:26 AM
p
If everybody who is using drugs in the USA will stop to do it, our island and all the islands in the caribbean will not have any problems with drug traffiking
Posted by: glenda | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 02:31 AM
It was reported tonight that the prosecutor had requested no visitation for Paul VDS, but the Judge approved, then the prosecutor filed a second request with other evidence to further block him from seeing Joran, and the Judge then denied visitation of the father. He is expected to appeal again.
Posted by: Florida Girl | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 02:32 AM
p.
If Natalee was missing in the USA she would be just a number of all the people missing in the USA, but the media now have nothing to focus on now so they focus on this case, just see if Jesus rise now from his where he is burried nobody will talk anymore about this issue as usual
Posted by: glenda | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 02:36 AM
Oh Dear. Some of the statements made by some of us Americans are just incredible. I mean, first of all, why should NH get so much media coverage? Why is she so special and so far superior than all the other millions of people who are missing in our country?
Secondly, give me a break, one murder in Aruba is NOT going to kill their economy; if that were the case, then no one would travel to the USA because of the heinous crimes we commit here. Especially big cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Miami- clearly we still travel to these towns despite their ridiculously high murder rates.
Thirdly, I'm willing to bet she's in the ocean somewhere and that's why they can't find her. And IF that really is the case, I think people owe the Aruban gov't an apology- it's not that they're doing a bad job, but rather, bodies that are thrown into the ocean aren't easy to find because of the current.
The point this IS in fact an isolated incident in Aruba and you can't hate on their gorgeous island.
Give me a break, you've basically insulted a tropical paradise and said you won't vacation there because of ONE case- so tell me, where are you gonna go now? Visit the Statue of Liberty in the town with the greatest murder rate in the country in 2000 (NYC)? Or how about visiting the Sears Tower in the city with the highest murder rate per capita in 2003 (Chicago)? Or better yet, why not visit President Bush and the White House in the town ranked the "Murder Capital" in 2002 (Washington DC)?
So everyone, relax and stop threatening to not grace Aruba with your presence because of one POSSIBLE murder, because honestly guys, our country doesn't exactly have the greatest statistics on safety when you look at the high murder rates. Let's not be hypocrites, shall we?
Peace.
Posted by: LF | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 03:55 AM
It was reported tonight that the prosecutor had requested no visitation for Paul VDS, but the Judge approved, then the prosecutor filed a second request with other evidence to further block him from seeing Joran, and the Judge then denied visitation of the father.
The VDS father is expected to appeal again tomorrow.
Van der Sloots dad (Paul VDS) has already seen his son once.
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Tonight the Judge denied visitation of the father
Both of these were confirmred by TV on camera interview tonight ~ 7pm PDT, on FOX "ON THE RECORD" as Marsha McCallum (sp?) interviewed Mr. Jossy Mansur, managing editor of Aruban's largest newspaper,DIARIO
Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 04:03 AM
"when a tourist gets robbed or shot in the US, our justice system wades in and kicks ass."
Are you kidding me?
Please, I beg of you, show me just ONE case as an example.
Posted by: Jamee | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 04:38 AM
TURN FOX ON RIGHT NOW. 9:00 PM FOX "NEWS" CHANNEL
DAN IS GOING TO BE ON TV.
Posted by: Mary | Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 09:31 PM