Rumors of Sex And Kidnapping Surface In Natalee Holloway Disappearance

Update: Arrests Made in case.

An online newspaper, AM Digital, hosted at Aruba.com has reported that the three men involved in the Natalee Holloway disappearance claimed to have had sexual relations with the 18 year old Alabama high school senior at the beach prior to returning her to her hotel at approximate 2 AM. A pdf file of the publication is available on this page. Look for the AM Digital link at left.

Also, Aruba and Travel Advisory message boards are abuzz over the disappearance, and one poster purportedly from Alabama posted the curious post below.

Alert: Just wanted to warn everyone: My best friend and her husband chaperoneed a senior trip of 160 kids down to Aruba, and she returned last night. Her husband had to stay b/c they think that one of the girls was kidnapped, and is possibly in Venezuela now. Her parents flew down, and the State Dept., DEA and several other groups are involved now. She left with a guy from Carlos and Charlie's, and the cops found out that he is a local drug dealer. Just wanted to let everyone know to please stay safe. If anyone in Aruba has any info., please let me know. I should know more later today. Just please say a prayer.

The above would fit with details in a report here claiming there were "disturbing" circumstances surrounding the disappearance which resulted in a request for ten additional agents of the FBI, now in Aruba. However, it should be noted that the bullentin board message can not be verified as genuine, or credible.

There was also another unconfirmed bullentin board report that some forensic evidence was gathered from a vehicle associated with the three men. It is known that at least some of the additional FBI support now involved in the search would be capable of evaluating such evidence; however, that is not unusual.

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Comments

[Erica]

They did not have sex with Natalee. In the car Natalee told them that she hasn't seen the lighthouse of Aruba yet. So they took her there so she can see it. Natalee was pretty drunk! And fell asleep in the car. And it was in the car only where Natalee made out with Joran van der Sloot. But they never had sex with eachother! And neighter did the other 2 guys. These guys are very close friends of mine and tey are not capable of hurting a girl that way! Everyone who know these guys here are sooo sure that they did not hurt her and neighter had sex with her! They're just not that kind of people. I have talked with them... and I know when they're lying yes or no. I just know these 3 guys are innocents and there defenitly were NO love affair at all.....

[Pete]

Aruba Police and the Dutch Justice Ministry are clearly a bunch of incompetent no-goods. I think the US should formally request more support from Netherlands and if they can't provide it then there should be more involvement from the FBI in this case. This is just sick. From all the facts it just looks like the Aruban government is trying to hide something.

They wait all this time before making an arrest and let these 3 people destroy or contaminate the forensic evidence!

This is sick. I hope this hurts the Aruba tourism industry so much they start coming clean about providing secruity to tourists.

[Luke-John]

One thing to bear in mind is that Aruba will move heaven and earth to preserve their reputation as a carefree, safe holiday resort.

In reality it would be better for them to be upfront and to openly release any details or other information they may have but I fear that they will try their damnedest to cover up whatever happened in the hope of preserving their precious reputation.

[Duck]

I clicked on the thing to take me to the pdf thing
and it wasn't there. Which issue of the am digital
thing is the article that you say is there but isn't there?

Over and Out

[person]

That rich dutch kid should hang. Aruba seems like a very racist place also. People should stop travelling to that silly also

[ev]

Yes Aruba is racist island. I cannot believe that they would just take anyone into custody especially if they are black over the privileged 3 ex-patriates. The Dutch have always been like that against the black locals its actually digusting. I lived in Curacao where the racism also happens. The little Dutch prince should hang if he did this.

Americans boycott Aruba you see how fast they will find Natalie.

[Duck]

This pinging the email thing interests me.

Is there a place where I can find about pinging/pingging emails?

Thanks very much! :)

[John]

With Aruba so worried about their tourism taking a dive, they should offer a public hanging of the person(s) that have done this to Natalee. I know a bunch of people that would visit to sit front row, including myself.

[Mike]

"" Yes Aruba is racist island. I cannot believe that they would just take anyone into custody especially if they are black over the privileged 3 ex-patriates. The Dutch have always been like that against the black locals its actually digusting. I lived in Curacao where the racism also happens""

I find it unbelievable that someone has the gust to say this.
Aruban an Antilian nationals are considers Dutch. They can come to the Netherlands.
A Dutch citizen cannot come to aruba an the antilles without many regulations, ( Aids test, Work garantee, etc)

Whe the Dutch one of the few partners in the war against terror with soldiers dying against terror in Afgahanisatn en Iraq shouldt be on trial.
Lets end all financial support to Aruba!

[Karla]

I think the problem is a lack of education and values in USA familes. Had she been educated more strict way, she wouldnt got that drunk in a far away island or going out with unknown locals !!! Maybe parents should learn from this happenings and try to educate their sons/daugheters more accordingly. News say this girl is straight A student and done social labour. Such a person doesnt get drunk and leaves her group as she did.

[Renee]

Why is everyone so quick to judge this poor girl who is not here to defend herself? For all we know, they could have given her that date rape drug and all taken advantage of her and then who knows what happened. !

My gut feeling is that she probably had built some sort of flirtation/relationship (during the week) with the Dutch boy and felt that he was a safe, trustworthy guy.

Judge not lest you be judged! She did not ask to be hurt or God forbid, killed. Hopefully, the three individuals will come clean and tell the truth. They are the only three individuals who know.

[Tim --Alabama,USA]

I just can't believe what some of you are saying! No matter how bad her judgement might have been or what she's been taught-- NO ONE deserves what happened to her that night, we've all made mistakes, how would you liked this to happen to you, your sister, or daughter the last time they made a mistake. We're all human.

[What if]

I don't think Natalie and boys had sex.
I think they just talked about geography and American literature for a while,
and then a flying monkey came from the skies and stole Natalie,
and told the poor boys to keep their mouths shut or else it would have anal sex with them.
Now, in Aruba, security guards are instructed to shoot flying monkeys, you see. But this one guard... actually his step-grand-father is a flying monkey himself, so of course he wouldn't shoot his own step-grand-father. And that's how it got so very comlicated.

To be continued..

[6 degrees of separation]

http://connect.tickle.com/photo/index.html?albumid=u_r9xcXM-ywqNCub

I found this "friend profile" very interestingly linked to one of the Suriname brother's Tickle Profiles. It wasn't Dpak's....But was his brothers. She looks so much like the missing Alabama girl it was downright spooky.

Very interesting indeed. And the fact that the Dutch 17 yr. old deleted his profile. The profiles there figure in very prominenty I believe.

[What if]

OMG!
Now, that's a hottie!
And what huge boobs too.
Drooling here.

Packing shit, going to Aruba!

[Sandra]

i hope they find natalle and my prayers are with her family..

[angie]

This is rediculous. Boycott Aruba? WTF? Is it Aruba's fault that a trip for a large ammount of under 21 year old students went down there to party? No. I am sure a lot of people feel that it is, but what did a country do? It's an inatimate object when it comes down to kidnapping a person and such. Unless it swallowed her whole, and I am sure that this isn't the case.
Also I am aware that people know that when kids go down to a forign country, with or without "supervision" they are going to drink and do drugs. Usually away from their friends, because they get a false sense of security when they are out and about and drunk/high. I am not bashing Natalee, just weirded out that people let their lovely 18 year old daughters out into a place that no one is really aware of. He friends let her go with some guys, that she didn't know at all. My mother doesn't let me walk alone or go outside after it gets dark, just because there are a lot of weirdos walking around in the streets of Colorado. My friends don't let me go with who ever, just because they've done it before and came back fine. I know people can abduct you in the middle of a day, but it's funny that I live in the USA and that shit wouldn't happen to me, and I don't know why it could happen to her...and I am 19.
I don't think you should bitch out Aruba, since its people and country are a small ass little place with the only thing to go on is tourism. This is the worst story people have put their energy on, just because she had a full paid tuition to a nice college, she was upper middle class, white, blonde and blue eyed, and popular.
I am really serious to say, all this news coverage wouldn't be happening to this hispanic, regular old brown eyed girl, God forbid it did. Well unless I commited a heinous crime, or a small unjust one. Plus they would probably say more disgusting thing about me, then they have tried to say about Natalee.
Serious.

[Not Praying]

Angie, are you cute?

[PISSEDOFFINARUBA]

BOYCOTT ARUBA? THESE SON OF A BITCHES IN CUSTODY NEED TO TELL COPS WHERE THE FUCK NATALEE HOLLOWAY IS. SOMEBODY KNOWS, IS THIS A COVER UP? IS SOMETHING FISHY GOIN ON HERE? WITH OUT AMERICAN TOURISM,ARUBA IS SCREWED. SO I SAY FIND NATALEE HOLLOWAY OR FUCK ARUBA!!!!

[Razzar]

concerning Natalee Holloway:

Its the kid with the Father who is a Legal Official. The Local Government is doing the cover up because of the 'Dutch' ties.

The kid AND his father are involved in the murder and hiding of the body.

The kid used date rape drugs - things got out of hand - she died. The kid called his father and his father helped hide the body. The Father calls the guy on the boat to help hide the body off shore.

Phone call records of that night should be made available for review - these would show that phone calls were made.

The Aruban Officials are doing the cover up dance. The FBI has been restricted from seeing critical evidence and kept away from areas of major interest - like not being able to search the houses of the judge and his kid - WHY?

[blue]

Amusing how many of the posters think that Aruba now has been annexed to Alabama and that the FBI and who knows else, is running the show.

Hate to differ with you power hungry morons, Aruba belongs to the Dutch and they are quite happy with the way their police is taking care of matters, thank you.

In order to have a fair investigation on the island one needs to ship out the Holloway/Twitty family, the media hags and anyone who has no reason to be on that island, except, naturally, the happy tourists.

Anyone who can say with 100% surety that one of those four arrested/held/whatever is guilty of a crime, please come forward and receive your dummy award. There has not been a crime committed at this point as there has not been a body found, no weapon, no blood, nothing! I therefore think the police would be working on a missing person case, were it not for the family and the media.

I have my thoughts about this case and so does everyone else but,this case won't be solved by intimidation, threats and the FBI. Anyone know if they ever found out who sent the Anthrax letters? Hm, I thought so.

[wondering]

I just want to know where the HECK were these so called SEVEN "chaperones" while this chick was running around to night clubs and the beach with strangers in the middle of the night? And who would think the FBI is running the show? They can't get anymore info than the family can!

[Not Praying]

Razzar... And then, the Chinese came
and they stole the body to sell it to the North Korea, which is in a process of making a serum that will convert their special ops officers (native Koreans, of course) into blonde, American-looking chicks, you see.
For that, naturally, they needed abody of a blonde American girl.
...

Ok, your turn

[Not Praying]

If there's god, why did he/she make some people as stupid as Razzar?
WHY?

[Amy]

The father of the Joran was just arrested 30 minutes ago. So he apparently knows something that they are not telling the rest of us.
I agree that if the mysteries about Natalie Holloway and Amy Bradley are not solved then they should boycott the island just like Cuba. We can just sit back and see how long it would take to solve the crime. We trusing americans provide for 75% of their income and I am sure that it hurt the economy.
If any of you are asking who is Amy Bradley then let me tell you that she came up missing from the island in 1998. She was on a cruise line when she was approached by two men that said they wanted to take her to Carlo's and Charlies bar. She was abducted from the boat and has not been seen since. Amy was also a young blonde.
They are hiding something in Aruba. It is clear that they are more concerned about the island's reputation than this poor missing girl. On a island that they all swear is the safest in the world. I hate to break the news to the innocents that actually believe that any where in this world is safe. Aruba is less than 18 miles from Venezuela. They are listed in the UN Human Rights Abuse Report along with Aruba as a drug dealers haven. Just look it up! Venezuela was sited as a tier 3 for human trafficking.
So for all those people who still want to claim that the island and it's neighbors are crime free.

Travel Ad should read------------------------ "Send all of your young beautiful daughters to us we will put them to good use!"
If this scares you then it should.

[Not Praying]

Or they don't want him to represent his son.
And will find some attorney who will do anything for a small amount of money.
"He fed the girl to the family dog - case closed"

None of us knows what really happen,
but I come here every day to read posted speculations - one crazier than another :)

[Louisianaconcern]

I am a29 years of age and I don't think the half of you could possible understand what you are saying or thinking. I was a chaparone of a grad class to Cancun the same week of Natlee's disapperance and it is impossible to keep up with each and every student because you get the low down of how this is my Senior Trip and i am here to party and have a good time not to be escorted everywhere. This tragedy has touched me deeply I have a 18 year old sister and she is beautiful to this shouldn't make her eligible to be picked up and taken. Each and everyone one of us has done stupid things with our judgements
She had a very successful future ahead with a very loving family The one thing I can not dictate is why a good friend would let her go knowingly she was intoxicated with total strangers It was strongly recommended to everyone on our trip to never go alone always have a pal. I hope and pray every day the justice is found and the family can get some peace in which I know will never be the same I have thought maybe she was sod off and kind of hoped she was at least she would be alive and maybe get found I do absolutely think these guys know and had everything to do with it. And I pray justice will be gotten!!!!!!!!!!

[Nadine]

Hi,
I'm sorry but it's like most of you don't know what you’re talking about. Ban Aruba? For what? For having different legal system than yours? If you don't know it's the same as the Dutch system (since Aruba is part of the Dutch). The government aren't hiding anything, that's just the way Aruba's system works. There has been a lot of pressure on the government, but it’s not them that are running the investigation. And also most of you assumed that the people that are arrested and investigated are guilty. That's how it is in America, not Aruba. This only means that they could have some information, not that they did it!
Every year there are 1 to 3 deaths caused by violence in Aruba. The last tourist that was killed by violence was in 1996. From the 500 000 Americans that came to Aruba there is only one missing. How many are missing in the US? (Ever thought about that?).
I've lived in Aruba for 18 years and I have never seen any discrimination! And if you don't know, Aruba and Curacao are totally different. There is a big gap between the whites and blacks in Curacao, but in Aruba there are so many different colours. Aruba has a lot of people from South America (such as Venezuela and Colombia), people from Haiti, Holland, Philippine, China and America. Don't come and tell me that Aruba is a racial island. If you want to make such a big conclusion you should have proof or at least some very good arguments. (Isn't there any discrimination in the US?)
It is true that there are problems with drug trafficking. Aruba is trying to solve that, but it's hard since Aruba is surrounded by water it is easy to take drugs to Aruba. (By the way the drug rates in the US are very, very high).
And it is also true that Aruba’s economy depends on tourism. Now this is a very good proof of how SOME type of Americans react to any problems put in front of them: Ban Aruba. Yes, yes…just black mail. Why do you think there are so many anti-Americans out there? Because of the anti-social behaviour that some of you have. I don’t mean that all Americans have that. Some have been very nice and helpful. There is only a small group out there that ruins it for everyone else. By the way, Arubans have worked their ass of trying to put bread on the table and you just come and talk bull shit like that. It is not fair.
And also the father of Joran van Sloot was released.
As last, I hope that they find Natalee safe and sound (maybe she ran off with someone somewhere and still alive, who knows). Anyways, thank you for your attention (since it is has been a very long letter).

[Bill]

Why in the world won't the Aurban police let us do something. This is sooo retarted. It's been over a month and still nothing. Let us do something. Joran is hidding something. I don't care if you know him or not. Explain why his father ran out into his car and took off after he got relesed from questioning? Whats the hurry? Is he hidding something? I know. He's covering up for his son for a mistake. Just addmite it so her friends and family don't have to go through what they are going through.

[armyranger]

Don't blame ARuba or the "accused"....blame the so called chaperones that allowed an under-aged girl from Alabama to go out on her own and get drunk, and leave with 3 men. Where was her mom then? This shows that regardless of your upbringing or education you are still capable of acting stupid...she paid the ultimate price...but no evidence to "hang" the Dutch boys.

[armyranger]

Chaperones must bare the most responsibility here.
As a chaperone you are not on a free. all expense paid trip to the beach to drink and party in Aruba...you are on a sponsored trip and your only purpose there is to insure the safety and security of the students, children, etc. you are chaperoning. Too many times I've heard chaperones complain about students stating that this is my senior trip and I want to do this, and I want to do that,, well when you are on your own you can do what you want..but if you are on a chaperoned trip that indicates that you don't have the skills, or experience to handle yourself or make decisions regarding your safewty or security. That's why chaperones are there. The chaperones in this case dropped the ball and should be held accountable as they allowed the situation to occur in which natalee was able to go to a club, drink, leave with 3 men and eventually....disappear. Put the blame where it belongs...on Natalee and the chaperones.

[Bill]

So blame the chaporones for the death? OK so lets lock up Beth Holloway for letting her go to aruba for her graduation. and the chaporons for not stopping the kidnaping. Good idea!

[Leonvang]

When is someone from the states going to look at the ex-boyfriend ange. Supposedly he and Natalee had a big fight. Stories by her alleged friends interviewed so far make no sense. Where were these friends and her ex that night?

[Tim D. Carson]

I am convinced at least four people were involved in disposing of her body and only one person (Paul) would have had the depth of mind to determine exactly how to accomplish this.

1. A simple and fast method would be to bury her in a cemetery under an existing slab.
A crowbar and a shovel would be the only tools required to move the slab.

This is the URL for Aruba Cemeteries.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~antwgw/aruba.html

2. Secondly, at an existing septic tank, slide the top off and drop the body. This method would also be simple and fast for the four to do.

Aruba Current wastewater situation

Desalinated water is used for all uses e.g. washing etc. Water consumption is 170 l per person per day;
Most of the produced wastewater is been discharged into septic tanks (decentralized collection). A part of this is being used for irrigation purposes, the rest infiltrates into the ground;

3. Third, and very gruesome, slaughter her with saws and knives. Then piece by piece flush
the flesh down a commode. Bone could be broken into small pieces with a hammer.
Should a septic tank be connect to the house, DNA might still remain in the tank. If the
the house is connected to an Aruba sewer system, forget it. Tools used for slaughtering
might contain DNA, even if they have been cleaned.

4. A remote possibility, drop the body in a bed of quicksand. A person with knowledge of
the Aruba would know if such a bed existed.

While quicksand can occur in almost any location where water is present, there are certain locations where it's more prevalent. Places where quicksand is most likely to occur include:

Riverbanks
Beaches
Lake shorelines
Near underground springs
Marshes

The fabrication of the various stories has not yielded anything significant, to date. The duct tape and hair is a long shot, but it seems the only possibility to get some DNA evidence. The trail to find anything grows dim and soon the 60 day period will arrive and all will be free of her disappearance. Heat sensors, dogs, exhaustive searches have failed since time for cleanup was allowed by the Aruba officials.

I recognize much of my message includes topics others have given many hours of thought to in this matter. So these are my thoughts, for what they're worth. Her parents will never overcome her disappearance and neither with those guilty of this crime.

[jokozacki]

I think that Aruba should be boycotted by all tourist. I personally have been to Aruba many times and I think that the Dutch are too forgiving and are thinking that no citizen of their country would commit a violence crime on a tourist. But it does not matter where you travel as a tourist you can easily become a target without even knowing it especiallly if you are a young women who is blonde good looking and very outgoing by nature. I think that the USA should just step in and do the investigation because the Dutch authorities do not know who to handle a missing/murder investagation of this degree.
I think that Paul Joran van Sloot father has covered up what he knows and I think that the government of Aruba should have terminated him from his post from the beginning but instead they put him on a paid leave of absence from his job. I know that he was released but you have to wonder if he coached his son. You do realize that Paul as a father said that he would do anything to help his son. Well then why is he always seen running and not wanting to tell the truth. What kind of example or lesson are you teaching your children? I think that Dave Holloway said it best by saying that Paul is a slimy character. Aruba does have discrimination! In Aruba there are so many different colours. Aruba has a lot of people from South America (such as Venezuela and Colombia), people from Haiti, Holland, Philippine, China and America. Aruba is a racial island. In Aruba there is racism just like in any country. This should have nothing to do with this case at all. Lets end all financial support to Aruba!! With Aruba so worried about their tourism taking a dive, they should offer a public hanging of the person(s) that have done this to Natalee. I know I would buy a ticket to sit in the front row of this hanging. I'm not saying that Aruba is a bad place to take a vaction but you have to take a step back and look outside of the box to get a clearer picture of what is going on the island of Aruba.

[Sweet Eugenia]

This is addressed specifically to Erica who is close friends with the Kalpoe brothers and Frankenstein's son, Vander Sloot. If you know them so well, and believe that they aren't capable of this sort of thing, that they supposedly didn't molest Natalie in any way,,,,,how is it that you jive the other facts of these freaks with that statement?
How is it that the judge in training's freakish son was gambling nightly and had an open bar tab when he was underage and it was illegal for him to be doing either one of those things?
And, if he could do those things and Daddy dearest didn't police his own offspring, how many other things would he do illegally?
How interesting it is that the Surinamese and Arubans are well aware that the Kalpoe brothers had to leave Suriname because they had a history of doing just this sort of thing as has happened in Natalee's case, so they had to go live with grandparents? And, since that is definitely the case, they are hardly Snow White and incapable of raping and murdering her.
Surely, the Judge in training checked up on the particulars of his son's friends and knew what kind of criminal types he was hanging out with, thus approving by default. What a Dad,,,hires you nine attorneys to handle your innocence. Evidently, there is not one lawyer licensed to practice on the island who can carry his weight in a court of Aruban law.
Oh, and let us not forget,,,by Aruban law, if you are the last person(s) known to be in the company of any person who disappears, you are charged with kidnapping,,,,Aruban law. Personally, I'm glad they're all having birthdays and becoming legal adults, so they can be tried as such.

That only leaves one other thing,,,,You, my dear are the Queen of Denial!

[Nan]

I believe the Aruban laws are quite different than the U.S.A. laws.
None of these boys have been " charged" as of yet as you said in your above post.
Aruban laws depict holding the suspects until they can get the information they need to charge them. Forensic , etc.
Don't post nonsense. You dont know what your talking about. Read up !!!

[Nan]

OOPs! BTW! American laws are pretty much the same also, we dont charge suspects here until proof is determined.
Who are we to tell another counrty how to run their country? we wouldnt like it here if some other country tried to tell us to change our laws and how to run our country.
As in Rome, do as the Roman's do.!!!!!

[Pacman712]

To Erica,

Your friend Joran is a skinny punk.

[josh]

she got fucked shwe got fucked she got fucked

you dont feel sorry for her cause you dont go off with strange men in a strange country

[fucknatalee]

natalee was a dumb redneck that got more than she bargained for. so wanted to fuck party and drink? well she got it! that dumb bitch didnt learn anything in life and now the mother wants to blame everyone for her kids stupidity! she is probably dead alright, but she did go with those guys didnt she? cant blame aruba... blame natalee for letting her "heat" take over her brain, blame the parents for not teaching her how to be safe and keep her legs closed, blame the chaperones for not doing their job and blame the friends for being such bad ones that they let her go with those guys. i will be very surprised if anyone is ever convicted.. no dna no body no witness no nothing. and by the way all this shit isnt going to stop me from going to aruba.. i probably wont leave with a local to fuck on the beach either.

[fucknatalee]

natalee was a dumb redneck that got more than she bargained for. so wanted to fuck party and drink? well she got it! that dumb bitch didnt learn anything in life and now the mother wants to blame everyone for her kids stupidity! she is probably dead alright, but she did go with those guys didnt she? cant blame aruba... blame natalee for letting her "heat" take over her brain, blame the parents for not teaching her how to be safe and keep her legs closed, blame the chaperones for not doing their job and blame the friends for being such bad ones that they let her go with those guys. i will be very surprised if anyone is ever convicted.. no dna no body no witness no nothing. and by the way all this shit isnt going to stop me from going to aruba.. i probably wont leave with a local to fuck on the beach either.

[Dan]

Its coming out now that Natalee used drugs and was drunk, its quite sad and its so bad of her mother to put the blame on others when she is the only one who could have taught her daughter right from wrong, and how drinking and drugs near water can lead to drowning and death. Her mother has now suffered enough, and im sorry for this... but dont blame others for your childs mistake.

[natalee was a fuckin hottie]

Man, that girl was slammin!! Whoever did kill her definitely had a good time first!!!