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~Thank you Dan for the new forum and all the updates. ~
:o)

those links are disgusting

Do NOT go to the URLS posted by Goldie. It has nothing to do with the case. Instead they are graphic and disgusting.

Dan this person goldie is absolutely disgusting and out of line the URLs in these comments have no thing to do with this case get rid of these sick and dereanged ppl expel them from here

THAT is ridiculous Goldie. SHAME on you!

I wish to protest this blog! In the other comments thread I noticed that there was a disgusting link. I warned about this. Now the person who did this has starting posting under the name Goldie the same shit links. Moderator: please IP-ban the responsible person.
The real Goldie.

To regular posters on this site. Dan will take care of it shorty. Please do not worry.
:O)
ignore and carry on.

Was visitation ever granted to Paulus and Joran? If so, were those sessions private or with someone from the courts present? Couldn't they have been using that time to get their stories straight?

Those posting were totally disgusting, my husband is sitting behind me watching television, and when that came up on the screen, he was horrified and wondered what the heck I was doing on the computer.

Please Please Please remove.

I will not open any more posts because my son is home and goes throughout the house. I don't want him to see this garbage.

Thank you so much Dan!

Prayers for Natalee's family. With the arrest of Paul van der Sloot, my hope that she's alive has dwindled. What a tragedy for so many families, the Twittys and Holloways, along with all her friends, and I feel bad for Joren's mom, who seems a wreck. I wish it turned out differently, but, it looks like nothing but destruction of life, and many families affected. So sad. :(

Folks - I have spoken to Dan, he is working on this. I know he is trying to ban ips but not sure about removing previous posts off board.

Jamie...Father has not been in contact with the son since he was arrested. Its was denied because of something he did and said on the first night the mother arrived on the island.
After a month i think they are finally getting somewhere on this. This is an amazing story and if it were not for the news media helping this family nothing would have ever been done about it.
I love the USA..:o) Thank you FOX news & GRETA and the rest for staying on top of this!!!
GOD bless Natalle and her family and friends.

Florida Girl, I hope he can remove the posts because I am sure teenagers are reading these posts, there is one on another post.

Dan, if you can please try to remove what was placed earlier, so an unsuspecting child does not come acoss it.

Thanks Dan.

Did anyone hear the comment made by John Gibson today? He said that after the meeting with the VDS family outside there gate off camera you could hear her say "this is where she was a 3:00a.m. on May 30th" ?

Have they consulted a physcic?

If any of you find any other disgusting links or post just copy and paste the entire post with the name and time of them included and send it to DAN in an email . BE SURE TO TELL him which forum it was in. This helps. I am sure he too is concerned and wants to keep this a clean site. It has been a very good place up until the last couple of days.

way to go dan!!

i missed a few days here but i am glad to be back checking in. i just cannot help but think that this is not the first time this clown, A JUDICIAL MINISTER NO LESS, played games behind his wife's back (God willing no one else died).

face it gang, it's gotta be real bad for them to arrest a justice official or even a potenial one.

mary,

glad you are still around keeping everyone in line since day one!! i have been trying to read all the threads from the first one till now. Lotsa info!!

jamie,

the father and son were never allowed to meet since the son was taken into custody

shell,

i feel bad for joran's mom as well, but she had to know something about the character of these two. it is just a painful thing to face. Sadly, a mother's love won't work in court. she was out of the country at the time, so no matter what she says in court, it won't hold up. perhaps if she took a look at the man she was married to a while back, she could have prevented all of this. I don't know, I am not her and I am certainly not God. but as mothers we have to take our heads out of the sand if not for ourselves, for our kids.

ALl the posts will be deleted and the IP's banned as soon as possible. You'll have to ignore them in the meantime. But they'll be gone by tonight. Some software is being upgraded in another area of typepad and I don't want to delete them just now to avoid deleting the wrong posts.

Oh Thanks so much Dan! =)

hey dan!!

i noticed it also on the forum number 8 someone named moonshine.

they said joran just confessed and posted that same link.

what losers.

good job by the way

Goldie and Real Goldie seem to have the same email address.Sick people in this world,including the ones that have anything to do with Ms.Holloway.I have,and will continue to pray for her family,friends and everyones life that she has touched.If in fact she has gone on to Heaven,as a believer and a Christian I will see Ms.Holloway again.

This is to Jan who kept bemoaning the fact that the poor little ole 17-year-old wasn't allowed to see his father, even after so many of us explained to her why he couldn't. I hope after the "father's" arrest she now has "got it."

Mother of Natalee doing a great interview on Fox now. This mother is incedible. :O)
We should be proud that there are moms out there in the world like her.
I cannot say enough good about her.
Wonder what email address you use to email her ?
I would like to send her an encouranging email.
Anyone know.
Please watch this over tonite later if you missed it.
Coming up on GRETA'S show at 10:00 on the east coast an interview with the mother of the two boys. Finally !!!
This should be interesting!!!
Stay tuned.

On Fox, an offical just confirmed what Dan said above. Paul Van Der Sloot is being held as a suspect in having taken part in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Mrs. Twitty just said during an interview with Alan Combs that she believes her daughter has been kidnapped and is still alive somewhere. She was adamant about this, and she also said that more arrests are to come. She believes Natalee is still on Aruba and is being moved around from palace to place. Good grief! Could my theory I posted earlier be correct???

mary,

i just saw that too!! god bless this woman!! of course it is only 7 out here so i get to watch it twice!!

i just heard that prosecuter whose last name is also croes all but come out and say that the father is involved in more than just hiding evidence and that she is satisfied that they released the boys initially. so now it seems that they were really putting a tail on the elder flying dutchman all along.

this is really bad, not to mention for his wife and younger two kids let alone the most obvious, natalees family and friends.

My heart breaks for BHT. I just watched her interview on Hanady and Colmes. She believes Natalie was kidnapped and is still alive and on the island.
It is a classic case of denial. Her husband should perhaps prepare her for the worst. If Natalee had been kidnapped wouldn't there certainly have been a huge ransome request by now?

Or am I missing something?

At any rate, it is just incredibly sad to not know...

ts,

i just don't think so. BUT i do believe it to be the case in others. I grew up in south florida and am quite familiar with the "lifestyle" and definately definately see that as a yes in many cases, just for some reason not this one.

one can honestly hope though. if so you can just imagine what this could open up.

in people magazine a few weeks back there was an article about natalee and this possiblility and it involved amissing american woman and a naval officer who went to a brothel in the caribean. the women took the officer alive in the brothel id'd herself and begged him to get her help. most likely out of embarrasment, he did not go to the authorities about it for years. for some reason he did not go to the authorities for years, so the article stated. it was too late by the time he did.

God I hope Natalee is still alive.

We can always pray and hope she is.

those two indian boys were set up like the two black security guards by the big shot judicial guy who thought he would get away with this and perhaps even be the one to try them in the end (or atleast have a friend do it)

their mother is not lying. these boys don't know jack sh**

If she was in fact kidnapped, you would not see a ransom request. They already have half of the perpetrators between bars.

Would you request ransom when you know that there are 3 or 4 people that can quickly blow your cover by making a deal with the prosecutors?

They are screwed when it comes to trying to collect any ransom. They are also screwed if they just drop her off somewhere for her to contact authorities...she will lead authorities right back to them.

Its a bad deal for the girl right now if she is in fact alive. I am still feeling that she perished on May 30th...but of course hope that I am wrong.

md

Goldie -
Stay the hell off of this site you stupid asshole! You are obviously a freak to have found shit like that...Too bad the VDSloots didn't get a hold of you.

Dan, you have a great site and put so much work into this, but, dont be so quick to give yourself credit for so many "you heard it here first" items. It takes away from the site for you to toot your own horn. JMHO.

The chances this is a kidnapping are pretty small. What is the incentive for kidnapping her? Would father and son be involved in a kidnapping ring together? Certainly they'd know she'd be missed?

The arrest of Paulus suggests to me more than anything that she is dead! Joran went to his dad for help. Paulus, trying to save his son from a long prison sentence, instructed Joran to get rid of the body and probably participated in it, which included employing a boat to take the body out to see. There is good chance Paulus' strategy will work out in the end.

rtriangle,

I think there is "little" or "no chance" Paulus' strategy will work. Daddy is now behind bars and I bet cha Joran will spill the beans. If he hasn't already. If they didn't take her out to sea, they're collective butts will tighten when the search team arrives.

bamaguy11,

you said...
"If they didn't take her out to sea, they're collective butts will tighten when the search team arrives."

I hope they find her but I think she was likely dumped at sea... and that is a terribly big pond... and its been almost a month. There is indeed "little" chance they will find a body.

Perhaps they picked up Daddy VDS to pressure the son into a confession. People are obviously more likely to fess up to something if it is affecting their family. Of course, the emotional torture should be enough, but obviously arresting the father presents more of an encouragement.

rtriangle,

you are right. I have a crazy feeling that she is buried on the island. If that's the case, the dogs will find her. They are incredible. I don't buy the "Tattoo" boat out to sea theory. I think Steve C. was the GHB connection.

Joran's mom is out of tragically out of touch. He drinks, he gambles at 3:00 a.m., he's lying about his age and the fact the he is high school student on the internet, he's trolling for women on the internet. What is it about the mothers of teenage boys that makes them do this? Whenever you talk to the mother of a young male you'd get the feeling he has no gonads and sleeps with a teddy bear.

When Joran's mother that there was a fight with another student, that was solved by talking to the other student's parents as opposed to calling the police, that was a red flag to me. You can be se wedded to that "everything is alright" mentality that you disregard any evidence that doesn't go with it. It also excuses you from the necessity to act and to curtail outside activities to be home more. Unforetunately it can all end tragically. Everything is alright until it isn't.

I think they should tell Joran that his dad couldn't take the pressure so he took his own life - maybe that would make Joran start talking. That would be a horrible lie but this is a horrible crime.

Hman: funny you should say that. If you look at past episodes of the great classic mystery Morse, there is a show that deals with Inspector Morse writing a false letter to the mother of the victim, to try and flush out more suspects. Unfortunately what happened was that another innocent victim got killed.

i still believe Joran is innocent of the bigger charge that most persons are tryin to levy on him.

I think like natalie the most he is guilty of is makin an unwise/foolish decision after the night/morning session didn't go as planned eg leavin her unattended on the beach in her 'condition'

So what, he told a lie, to try to save his a**, should we send him to the gallows for that? are we to assume that evcerything else that he says is a lie?

The American justice system has taught that when a crime is comitted, u pick a suspect n let the charge stick at all costs - perfect example -, IRAQ was responsible in part for 9/11 lets Bomb them.

To this day evidence suggests otherwise.

Joran has been tried, judged n condemned by many persons contributing here... have all the knowns been consolidated? have all the unknowns been discarded? i think not

P in SE Asia
Your totally unbelieveable comment just goes to show us all how screwed up some people are.

AND YOU SAY: SO WHAT HE TOLD A LIE ! ?? HOW BOUT MANY MANY LIES AND MORE AND MORE EVERYDAY AS TIME GOES ON.

How disgusting. We are talking about a young lady's life here! Get a grip.

Oh my!!

Dutch news 24th June:

Op Aruba is een Nederlandse rechter aangehouden op verdenking van het medeplegen van moord, doodslag of ontvoering met de dood tot gevolg. Hij wordt verdacht in de zaak van de vermiste Natalee Holloway (…….)
Met de arrestatie van Van der S., die plaatsvervangend rechter is, hoopt de politie meer te weten te komen over de mysterieuze verdwijning van de scholiere. De jurist werd afgelopen weekeinde al twee keer gehoord als getuige. Hij meldde zichzelf gisteravond bij de politie en wordt nu volgens het OM verdacht van betrokkenheid bij de zaak (….)

Translation:
On Aruba a Dutch judge is arrested under "reasonable suspicion" in the participation of murder, manslaughter or kidnapping with death effect (.....)
With the arrest of Van der S., the deputy judge, the police hopes to find out more about the mysterious dispappearance of NH. The jurist had already been heard as a witness last weekend. Yesterday evening he reported himself with the police and he is now, according to the Public Prosecutor, suspected of involvement in this case (....)

P in Asia...please tell me your no older than 16 and don't know any better.

This one is directed at all the females, Don't think that all the guys you meet are as nice as they say they are, guys are pigs, they will bend over backwards and say things you want to hear, all they want to do is get in your pants, plain and simple, i know cause i'm a guy, i've been there and know all the tricks, i've been around long enough to see it. don't ever ,ever let your guard down no matter how good it looks, and if your dancing and leave a drink on the table, dump it and get another one (i have 5 sisters, i know all the scams)
duke nukem

I think Kalpoe, both of them, and Van Der Sloot ought to have their balls cut off, then put in prison.

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