Janssen: No Body, No Crime

This via Hosibokus from Dutch television.

... In yesterday’s interview Paul van der Sloot said that he did not instruct the young suspects not to talk, but explained the judicial procedure to them ... Paul van der Sloot told the boys a few days after the disappearance of Natalee (not to worry because) there is no crime without a body and consequently there will be no case.

... Janssen is certain that this has affected the investigation drastically and caused the suspects to keep their mouths sealed

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Comments

[bamaguy11]

harry,

On Steve Croes, I will agree. Seems he was "instructed" to relay his story to the police.

[houston]

Criminals .... No matter how smart they think, by their nature are coward and do make stupid mistakes, remember Unicorn Killer in Phildelphia in 70s he stuck the body in his apartment until it started to smell and got recovered after several months.
There was earlier report of dogs sensing something at the Joran's house earlier, this house needs to be combed thoroughly and who knows, it may be simpler than we think... there is always possiblity NH is alive somewhere else on another island or Venezuela

[bamaguy11]

Ari,

This is not your so-called "virtual" crime.

[harry]

Letshelp & Bamaguy:

Reality has been checked. There is a good reason why Natalee dispappeared; unfortunately, to date, it has eluded the Aruban authorities and the FBI. Although the three kids look attractive as prima face culprits, the very fact that Natalee's whereabouts, four weeks after her disappearance, continues to puzzle the authorities has to question the capabilities of the three kids to pull this off.

[Bernice]

If Paulus is SO clever, I'm sure he would know better than to say a comment in an interview like, "told the boys don't worry..no body, no crime"--wouldn't you think? Wouldn't he really be watching his words?

[bamaguy11]

harry,

Exactly, that's the reason I believe more people were involved. Paulus VDS, Steve Croes, etc...
I am beginning to believe the police department is involved as well. We simply do not know the influence the elder VDS has with certain officials.

[harry]

Mora68 & Bamaguy:

Croes has access to a smaller boat with an outboard motor. It looks like a white-colored Zodiac. It is used as the conduit boat between the Tattoo and the pier near the Marriott Hotel. True, the current belief is that he was merely instructed to back up the kids. That story fluctuates as well. I do not believe that Croes is the peripheral player that he contends.

[harry]

Bernice:

I do not believe Paulus van der Sloot was quoted as you posted.

[seedyrum]

Chris Lejuez the lawyer for one of the security gaurds said Aruba has limited resources to investigate crimes that is why Aruba has accepted the help of the FBI and Equus and others.

Duh!

Aruba knew it had limited resources from 30May. Aruba wouldnt allow FBI intervention.

Aruba didnt do anything until 10 days later.

Aruba allow these only entities to get involved only when Aruba is assured "nothing" would/or could be found.

[Not a Hand Wringer.]

[[ If Paulus is SO clever, I'm sure he would know better than to say a comment in an interview like, "told the boys don't worry..no body, no crime"--wouldn't you think? Wouldn't he really be watching his words? ]]

Just to remind the super-sleuths and CSIs on the DB.

It's the prosecution that's making an allegation that Paulus made the statement. And, folks...need I remind you, prosecutors don't always have the evidence to back up the things they say to the public....before a trial. So, one must be mindful that even prosecution statements can be suspect.

from: http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/11/2005

" In yesterday’s interview Paul van der Sloot said that he did not instruct the young suspects not to talk, but explained the judicial procedure to them so that they would know what to expect and not panic. With regard to this statement Janssen ( chief prosecutor ) said that through their investigation they learned that Paul van der Sloot told the boys a few days after the disappearance of Natalee (not to worry because) there is no crime without a body and consequently there will be no case. "

Now, back to your gossiping.

[seedyrum]

Andra Bennett, whatever I can do to help with the Boycott let me know. Also anything I can do to keep the Van der Sloots name family Paulus, Anita, Juran in the public conscious, let me know.

[Ravage]

I'm sick of all these secrets they are observing by keeping their mouth shut.. This kid if he walks away free will find no peace and even the father. Justice prevails and sometimes after 5, 10 years case like this can reopen because evidences will show up. So if they walk away this time good for them but they better hide because evidences will come out one day and Justice will bring them. Van der Sloot son will have difficulty to get inside USA to study so he better think of it twice . Better speak or whatever he will be, he will be haunted by Natalee . Their conscience must be troubled and they must have trouble sleeping these people.. I dont understand them why they dont want to reveal the truth ...Its an evil path they choose. Too bad for them !

[Mary]

~What if Paulus had "contacts" with someone that owns a Funeral Home with a crematory on the island ? That would be awful if it were true.~
I feel sure that the dad took care of things alright, including getting rid of the girl.!!

[minnesota dad]

AND ATTORNEYS WONDER WHY THEY ARE HATED AROUND THE WORLD....

IT IS THE SCUMMIEST PROFESSION. PROSTITUTES HAVE MORE CLASSE THAN THESE BUMS......

MD

[Bonita,Victoria Canada]

Dan,Van d Sloot senior gave his son advice as a lawyer when he explained the judicial system to him.I would have said the same thing. But I would have added....just tell the truth. The man is guilty of nothing. The boy is very lucky to be the son of a lawyer.And that is not guilt in my mind. Let's let the Aruban officials conduct their case, at their own pace. We Northamericans have no moral right to impose our need for instant solutions on these folks. It doesn't serve anyone to make statements like..."I'd better get answers, and I'd better get them now." Now will come in a timely fashion and the "bootjack" remarks do nothing but further wider the gap between the Arubans and the Northamericans.
Bonita

[pearl]

Mary,

We dont have crematory on the island.

[Observer]

Lets not boycott the island just yet..LOL!!Lets wait to see what develops in the next week until monday..Vandersloots are starting to disturb some of the good fold in aruba for sure..They arent worth the big dollars that flood into aruba via american tourists.For sure the dad had a big hand in this coverup..No way did joran and the boys do this alone..

[posters]

am giving the location of where Natalie maybe located. As a psychic trying to help.They did go to the light house as they said Then they went to park mentioned below . l I believe the she is located in Arikok National park in the area surrounding the 1. Prins Plantation 2. 200 feet from the road 400 feet from a trail. Her head is facing South/West. 3 There are 3 scrub like bushes next to her She is buried under three feet in depth. 4. People that were looking for her passed by and missed where she was buried by 50 feet The area is smooth hump and can not be noticed as being a grave site.. 5. the 17 year old hurt her but the others where there She died at the hands of the 17 year old white male. She died at a turn off road parking lot for a trail head. The two brothers where there and had their way with her. 6. The two black males had nothing to do with the crime.and should be let go. If you have been following my blogs on other sites I had said that the two Black males were not involved in this crime. I hope that this information will help in the investigation and you pass it on to the people that can use this information. I know there are the sceptics out there who blieve she is in south america or other parts of the world. The reality is she is not longer with us here. If you are interested in what happens in a mind of a person or persons who do this kind of crime. Panic sets in they are scared of what they had just done. Now what place on this island would you best dispose of the body where nobody can findit. 1 toss it in the ocean? or 2 bury it where nobody except for those who put her there will find it. A place where at 2-4 in the morning they can put someone with out arising to much suspicion. A place where nobody lives. Check out the map of Arikok national park and where you can park and carry a body and hide it. Not to far from the road but far enough so where it might not be discovered. This is a lead not closer to the case once the body is found. Closure is when the hearts of the parents are put to rest and that the people responsible are punished for what they had committed. My Prayers go out to the family and friends of Natallie.

Did any of you kind people from Aruba find where this park is that this psyhcic says. I mean it doesn't hurt to see what the chances are. Don't no one laugh and dismiss the psyhcics like I said they have been used widely in things. As for you lottery predictions the serious ones won't even touch that stuff.

Now if Aruba does not have the resources to do a search, why would that be? All the drug cartels surely can donate some time and money to this cause. Carlos and Charlies laces enough drinks and makes a fortune of stupid America tourists why surely they could help and maybe interroagte the staff. What you will say none of the staff is or don't know Joran sleuthy Wake up! Wake up! Old man Sleuth knows and is confident to say no body, what is he pshycic maybe? No still sure she didnt go to a rave, this is the 3 punks who did the deed, and Papa is the mastermind. Police chieftan is the master mind # 2 COVER COVER UP COVER UP. IT REEKS IT STINKS. Why the denial then to American Authorities. The poor in Aruba can't talk. TORONTO you got it, unless they trust you implicitly they will not speak for fear of apprehension. COPS ARE GODS THERE THAT IS WHY MOST BECOME COPS SO THEY CAN mess with the poor, and they are well fed in kick backs. GOD BLESS AMERICA THE GREAT. Can someone do the research and see what that park is all about please please Thank you!

[seedyrum]

I am afraid it is too late for Natalee Holloway..we say a prayer in her death and rejoice in her life. However , lets not let her death/missing be in vain.

Aruba Police are keystone kops to launch a credible unbiased investigation and gathering valid forensic evidence.

However, Aruba Police wrote the book on Compiracy, Coverup, Corruption enough to make Edgar Allan Poe proud.

As I have said this is about Natalee Holloway, although it has grown larger than her. International Law, sex lies and videotape, parents covering a child in a felony. Privilege, Class Distinction, Scapegotaing...and the list go on.

I wonder how Satish'mother feels.
Is this the way she reared her sons to protect a friend while putting themselves in harms way?
Is she being threatened not to put more pressure on her sons to save themselves?

Did she raise them to kill innocent folks then shut up about it until the furor dies down?

Is she being paid off for her silence?

Is she being paid off to ensure her sons silence?

Is she respectable and honorable and thus instilled this in her children?

Does she have younger children?

is this how she wants the younger children to behave as they grow older?

Does the younger children view the older brothers as "heroes."?

Does she think that when the chips are really down the Van Der Sloots will protect her sons?

She knows the answers to these and other questions. Has she no morals or ethics?

We must press on for the other Natalee Holloways who are missing on that quagmire of an island called Aruba.

How many other murdered and missing are there?

Do no for instance think this is the only case.

There are others, lets let them speak to us as we toil to bring down this coverup.

Bloggers unite.

[Ravage]

Boycotting the island of Aruba is an extremist action and I find that if there were many cases of disappearance the situation would have been considered serious . The problem here is the Justice System in Aruba that seems to be the issue.The Island is known to be probably the safest Caribbean Island. The Collectivity should not be paying the price because 3 potential suspects aren't talking..

Judging these innocent Families in Aruba is like action-reaction. This will bring more anger against USA for non-sense reasons... The reputation of USA since the Bush Government has decreased and I have witnessed it when travelling around the World. Lets not deteriorate more the image. Lets focus on Natalee's Case which is the Main Affair.

[color]

Paul Van Der Sloot is not feeding her to any sharks that is not 100% full proof. They have found nothing, not her license, room key, money.
I Fully believe that no body will ever be found, I have since the beginning. She was killed that night by Joran, accidentally or not. With the help of the powers that be and whoever else and ofcourse PVS... Natalee (Her body) was no longer on The Island of Aruba within 2 days. Those boys were not going to cop to anything why should they? there is no evidence and no body.

[blogreader]

Everyone else has thown their 2 cents in; I might as well, too. From reading all these blogs, my guess is that the dad paid the drug runners in and out of Aruba big bucks to take her away (after his son killed her, on purpose or "unintentially").

There is so much talk on these blogs about drugs in Aruba; drugs would have to get there by boat it would seem, and it would be something that "everyone knows" but wouldn't talk about. I certainly hope I'm wrong, but it would be one additional possible explanation why no one has found her on a small island after all this time. And if the dad knows that he can't be charged with anything "after the fact," then everyone is in the clear and will walk.

I pray I'm wrong.

[nagpur]

Papaul is an old wrestler in the world of law. He knows exactly what has happened to NH, because he helped his son to dispose the body in the Carribean Sea. And he also taught his son and the brothers that they don't have to worry, cause everything, is gonna be all right. As long as they all together sing the same song again and again, sometimes with some variation in it, there will be no case and no crime. That’s why Joran showcased his arrogant attitude towards NH mother, because he was very sure of himself that “big daddy” is the man in charge, he’s his protector, he is his backup and no harm will befall him. And those brothers are just lining up for the Great Law master, because Papaul paid them or promised them a huge sum of money, or maybe he threatened to kill their family because he had links with the underworld cocaine trafficking goons and Columbian/Venezuelan Dons on Aruba.

[harry]

Pearl:

Thank you for the info on the crematorium. Do you have large slaughterhouses on the island of Aruba?

With Aloha,

harry

[elan]

now, how is it paul knows there is no body?

[Hope]

Some parents do anything to their children as well as for their children. Do sick things to them and for them..etc Joran is the seed of the rotten apple. Sooner or later their conscious has to eat them up.
Now I think Aruban authorities are CLOWNS in the investigation of this case- the hndling of this case. They belong in the circus!

[JustMe]

Dudes, the Aruban "authorities" have botched this investigation extraordinarily badly. So, as we used to say on the farm when working with cattle, "I'm going to get down to the nut cutting."

I have given the Arubans the benefit of the doubt until now. But no longer. They are incompetent and/or corrupt. I don't give a damn about their legal system. They would obviously be too damn stupid to crack this case if torture were allowed. Natalee Holloway is never going to come home or even be found. I will be amazed if anyone in Aruba ever even goes to trial for her disappearance.

I know that all U.S. investigators are not perfect and the Boulder, Colorado, Police Department is a prime example, i.e. Jon Benet Ramsey. But I do believe that when the heat was on even the idiot cops in Boulder looked for all the help they could get. Not so with the Arubans. Hey guys, take your sovereignty and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

You jackasses have to rely on Amsterdam to tell you what to do. Don't give any lame "we are small and have no significant population" excuses. Lichtenstein is small and has no significant population. The Lichtenseiners are smart enough to make a living without getting America teenagers inebriated and it TRULY is a virtualy crime free country.

Aruba can sink into the sea for all I care. I have been there and can tell you from personal experience that there are much better islands in the Carribean. Hell, there are better islands in the Netherlands Antilles.

Forget contacting the Dutch Ambassador. Contact your Senators and Congressman and the U.S. State Department. Tell them you want Aruba placed off limits for American tourists. If they had the guts to see that idea through, which they don't, Arubans would envy Cubans.

Aruba can go to hell. I am sick of this crap.

[seedyrum]

We wont boycott the island of Aruba. Good

We just wont go for fear of our safety at best at worse we fear there wont be a credible unbiased investigation without a coverup and residents of the Aruba arent able to speak out for fear of retribution.

[CancunGirl]

Blogreader:
It has been confirmed that there is "radar" that would catch any activity on the water be it boats coming or trying to leave the island. That is what Aruba authorities say. Although it was said that now the lead prosecutor in the case is also reviewing the vessels that left the island in and around the time Natalee disappeared, so who knows what that means?

One thing for sure, it seems that PVDS, Joran and the 2 Kalpoe boys are somehow sure that a body will not be found. Hmmmmm Maybe that is why they have not "cracked" yet?

It also made me sick to know that PVDS was able to see his son for the first time tonight without someone present. More coaching by the wannabe judge I'm affraid.

Still, I HOPE for Natalee.. and pray for Beth and her family.
CancunGirl

[JustMe]

I have held off personal attacks, but no more. Let's mix it up.

As I said, I've been to Aruba. I have also been to Sint Maarten, Statia, and Saba. The latter three are far and above the glitz of Aruba, with the possible exception of Sint Maarten, but at least a part of that island is French.

I am an historian and have always detested the idea of waging war on a civilian population. This whole thing has caused me to reevaluate that position. Hit them where it hurts. Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers are three liars. INNOCENT PEOPLE DO NOT LIE TO THE POLICE.

The Arubans can either find a way to put the three miscreants in jail permanently or we can spend out tourist dollars elsewhere.

PS - I have also been to Caracas, Venezuela, and it sucks even worse than Aruba.

[blogreader]

CancunGirl...Your post made me feel much much better for awhile, until I remembered reading on one of these blogs somewhere that so many officials are "on the take" down there, so it would be possible no one would report it even if a boat came up on radar. Hopefully I'm wrong.

This all has just gone on way too long, so it's frustrating. I'm not naturally a "conspiracy theory" type person, so I pray you're right that I can safely eliminate my theory.

[seedyrum]

Radar?? and what good is that??

Probably was off at the time

covered at the time
The person who is supposed to be watching the scrren was asleep, drinking, shooting up, with a hooker, gambling, or was blind

If there is a recording, it went out to sea with Natalee Holloway.

There was a coverup from the moment that"something bad happened." Probably before Natalee spoke to Juran.

I wont ever believe this is the first "coverup."
It went to smooth for folks who arent used to having "crime" on Aruba.

[harry]

Seedyrum:

When you enter an area of the world where crime seems non-existent, it generally means that a figure comparable to the Chinese "King of the Bums" is operating. The term has no English/Western European equivalent but refers to a controlling figure who has absolute power over the anti-social elements of the community. With certainty, this person exists in every, large, urban, Overseas Chinese community. Given the low crime rate of Aruba, such a figure would probably be operating in Oranjestad in the gambling areas. If he is there, those in conection with him will be able to ask him to retrieve Natalee. This is not a matter of money. He prefers civil order as well as any other authority.

[calista]

WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON IN ARUBA???????????????????? Are you kidding me???? This guy actually admits that he said "no body no case" and he is just walking around free??? and he said this ONE day after she vanished??? would someone PLEASE get the AMERICAN FBI down there to remove everyone's head from their ass!!!! how much longer is this going to drag on and on and onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?????????? what a mess and what a poor excuse for a police investigation - geez the police in the scott peterson case had no body but they knew enough to know laci was gone and to put the pressure on her husband. what a bunch of screw ups and what a HUGE cover up going on - why has nobody asked the president to get involved? He did for Laci's family I mean for goodness sakes you have people going on live tv saying hat they were told to make up a story by joran's family - do the police need an engraved invitation? where are the lie detector tests - you know all that good police crap

[harry]

Calista:

The FBI is in Aruba. They have been for some time now.

[calista]

yes I know harry the fbi is there but why are they just sitting around? they had divers sent there way back yet none of them ever got in the water - she is an american they should be able to help

[frustrated]

I (and many Americans) are tired of the b.s. coming out of the mouth of the Arubans. They are a bunch of spineless coward people, who are either afraid of the hit tourism will take or are afraid of the mafia or other criminals who committed this crime, that they are afraid to speak up.

The Holloways will never leave Aruba and will haunt your island.

[calista]

ohhhhh....as for the "psyhic" who knows where natalie is why don't you go to the police then? why tell us? tell them so they can find her..........oh by the way....what am I thinking right now?

[CancunGirl]

This seems to be an authentic letter written by Deepak to a friend after the incident. It seems real to me, I found it on another forum. His conversations with people, via emails and such are being leaked. What do you all think?

How are you i hope you and your family is fine.(NAME DELETED) is better i tell you the truth , before it will be a shock for you later, but i think it will be a shock for you rightnow.
The missing girl natalee hollaway,I spoke to her , sunday she left with me , my brother and a friend from carlos n' charlies , it was my car like the news said she got in to, I am one of the persons of intrest , i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Let see where to start i don't even know where to begin these last days where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ). so they took a drink and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.afterwards my friend had to go and she said that ''today is my last day i will be in carlos n' charlies will you be there'' and my friend said well i have school tomorrow i don't think so . well she begged him and he still said yes i'll be there.So that was in the casino i was not present , i was at work so my friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off my shift at 10 pm and went home took a bath had to fix something and then me and my younger brother went to pick up my friend was around 12.10 am so i came to his home and was talked for like 15 min and then left to go to carlos (we all went out without or parents knew) so we arrived like 12.30 am in carlos (carlos is closing 1 pm ) and headed straight for the bar and bought 3 drinks my friend paid for them, so besides the bar there is a stage and people were dancing and there was natalee dancing too (thats the first time i saw her )and she was calling my friend to get on the stage and dance with her my friend laughed and refused so after the song was finished she came up to my friend and asked why he won't dance with her , i only heared that part because i was talking to someone else so i don't know what he responded(by then natalee was VERY drunk)so as i said i was talking to someone when i turned i had lost my brother , natalee and my friend. well they were announced that they were closing soon so i thought well maybe they' re waiting for me by the car its better i go there so i went to my car and nobody was there so i started playing music and was waiting on my brother and my friend.i waited for like 10 min and then i saw my brother stepping in the car and my friend who was with natalee. so i was surprised but anyways i started the engine and my brother was besides me and my friend and natalee were in the backseet so i started cruising in the area and asked my friend whats going on so natalee responded to me ''hey its no prob let us just drive around and have fun its my last night , she said you can drop me off later at holiday inn anyways right'' i said sure why not so as i was drove out of the carlos road and got on the mainroad there were natalees friends and she , pushed het head out of the window and screamed something i can't recall.so i was driving very slow to make a left to get in the next road and then one of natalees friend screamed for her to get out of the car , and she refused so then i stopped my car and i said natalee if your friends want you to go with them its better you go listen to them and go with them , she said no i will stay with you guys i will get a lift from you anways later, so she said bye to her friends and i drove away, so then we were just talking etc, in the car and then she said she wanted to see sharks ,it was by the lighthouse she saw them before that can we go , my friend said ok ,deepak lets go. so on my my to the lighthouse there was music playing and noone talking for a while when i looked in the backmirror my friend and natalee were kissing and touching (his hands etc was in her blouse but nothing nude or against natalees will ) so my brother siad just leave them for a while untill we get to the lighthouse, when i arrived at the lighthouse i said well here is the lighthouse they did not pay attention to me , so my brother said lets return (i did not stop anywhere not for a min only trafficlights) so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if its holiday inn for sure she is staying so my friend woke her up and confirmed with natalee she was staying at the holiday inn, so i drove to the lobby driveway of holiday inn and then we woke her up, she got out of the car and fell on the floor my friend said damn she fell and then rushed out of the same door natalee came out and picked her up immediately, after she stood up she pushed my friend and said leave me alone or something like that i can't recall , my friend offered to help het to her room she said no. she he stepped in the car and while i was driving away i saw natalee walking towards the lobby and a gentleman with a walkie talkie and black clothes approached her and i think they were talking and i had never seen natalee again sinds.(holiday inn has no cameras in the driveway or lobby) it was around 2.15 am .monday i came to work normally 4- 11 pm after work i called my friend i said whats up he said ok i'm at the raddison casino meet me there , i said ok so i went there we played poker , we had some drinks and chat and then we had enough and decided that this casino was booring lets go to whyndham hotel casino . so i drove to whyndham and as i was parking my friends dad called him and said the police is at his home with some family members its about the girl you guys went out with yesterday , so my friend said wait there i be there, so we rushed at my friends home and there was the police and nataless family and it was a nightmare sinds then. the police asked us if we knew this girl showed us a picture we said yes thats her , they said she was missing and eyewitness say she was the last seen with you guys . so they asked a few more questions and we said we don't understand we left her at holiday inn lobby drive way how could she dissapear and then natalees stepfather jumped and said ''yes thats because after she went with you assholes she lost'' and then my friends father jumped and said thats enough you can't talk to the kids like that this is not the us your out of you juristiction this is not the way i want you people out of my yard i know the law (my friends father is e judge) so afterwards another family member of natalee suggested to the police if we can id the security gard we said ok. we went there there was no suck security working there as we discribed. so then we were just standing in the lobby there were questions etc. asked by other members , and then me and my friend walked to the car natalees mom was sitting and we said mam you have to believe us we did not do anything with you daughter, she was crying and said i don't believe you 2 , i promise you i will make you life a living hell because of this . anwyas we said we were sorry again ans that we will help in any way possible.i went home 7 pm tuesday, i was then called 2 pm by the police for questioning i went gave a statement they said i was a witness no suspect the same went for my brother and my friend they were questionded and had to sign their statement also , the checked my car and i was clear to go , wednesday i was called again to show them how i drove the route that day ( i could refuse was my right i still decided to go , as did my brother and friend ) the drove us one by one and then we were free to go again.thursday morning my friend called me (he goes to aruba international school and his mother is a teacher there and he is a straight A student ) in panic and said there a re family members here at school and they are sharing flyers and the flyers said : GIRL KIDNAPPED ASK JORAN VANDER SLOOT (thats my friends name ) the principle asked them to leave and they did .so thats my part of the story yesterday and today it was quiet no treathen phoncalls what we got before and i won't mention the crazythings the newspapers etc. writes about us its to much to mention. at home my mom is losing it she is cryimg constantly , my dad bloodpressure got high also his hands are red , my friends home is a disaster also ,his mom is crying constantly also his dad is pretty cool he calmes us down and talks to us also not to worry , my brother is preety cool but on his face you see he is worried , my friend is pretty worried also. i'm pretty worried also , we have 2 lawyers one for my friend and one for me in case we get arrested and charched with something his dad can't defend hin he is a judge and he is too emotional attached .my friend has his graduation this thursday he has to go to the states in july he has a full scholarship. i had to go to vacation also end of this month.many politicians find we should be locked up rightnow.We heard a lot of false alarms that she was dead , she was seen with 2 guys , her hair is cut and is red now ,she was in a crackhouse etc, we were arrested and , my car is by the police we confessed to murder and rape, she went in a restaurant to buy food but none of those were true.So (name deleted) that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them

So (NAME DELETED) i will say goodbye now hope you believe me and i pray to god that they find natalee soon and find her well so that this nightmare ends for all of us and they we prove we had nothing to do with this, i hope you pray for all of us say hi to everyone there hope to hear from you soon and may god bless.........

bye bye

Deepak.

[CancunGirl]

This seems to be an authentic letter written by Deepak to a friend after the incident. It seems real to me, I found it on another forum. His conversations with people, via emails and such are being leaked. What do you all think?

How are you i hope you and your family is fine.(NAME DELETED) is better i tell you the truth , before it will be a shock for you later, but i think it will be a shock for you rightnow.
The missing girl natalee hollaway,I spoke to her , sunday she left with me , my brother and a friend from carlos n' charlies , it was my car like the news said she got in to, I am one of the persons of intrest , i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Let see where to start i don't even know where to begin these last days where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ). so they took a drink and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.afterwards my friend had to go and she said that ''today is my last day i will be in carlos n' charlies will you be there'' and my friend said well i have school tomorrow i don't think so . well she begged him and he still said yes i'll be there.So that was in the casino i was not present , i was at work so my friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off my shift at 10 pm and went home took a bath had to fix something and then me and my younger brother went to pick up my friend was around 12.10 am so i came to his home and was talked for like 15 min and then left to go to carlos (we all went out without or parents knew) so we arrived like 12.30 am in carlos (carlos is closing 1 pm ) and headed straight for the bar and bought 3 drinks my friend paid for them, so besides the bar there is a stage and people were dancing and there was natalee dancing too (thats the first time i saw her )and she was calling my friend to get on the stage and dance with her my friend laughed and refused so after the song was finished she came up to my friend and asked why he won't dance with her , i only heared that part because i was talking to someone else so i don't know what he responded(by then natalee was VERY drunk)so as i said i was talking to someone when i turned i had lost my brother , natalee and my friend. well they were announced that they were closing soon so i thought well maybe they' re waiting for me by the car its better i go there so i went to my car and nobody was there so i started playing music and was waiting on my brother and my friend.i waited for like 10 min and then i saw my brother stepping in the car and my friend who was with natalee. so i was surprised but anyways i started the engine and my brother was besides me and my friend and natalee were in the backseet so i started cruising in the area and asked my friend whats going on so natalee responded to me ''hey its no prob let us just drive around and have fun its my last night , she said you can drop me off later at holiday inn anyways right'' i said sure why not so as i was drove out of the carlos road and got on the mainroad there were natalees friends and she , pushed het head out of the window and screamed something i can't recall.so i was driving very slow to make a left to get in the next road and then one of natalees friend screamed for her to get out of the car , and she refused so then i stopped my car and i said natalee if your friends want you to go with them its better you go listen to them and go with them , she said no i will stay with you guys i will get a lift from you anways later, so she said bye to her friends and i drove away, so then we were just talking etc, in the car and then she said she wanted to see sharks ,it was by the lighthouse she saw them before that can we go , my friend said ok ,deepak lets go. so on my my to the lighthouse there was music playing and noone talking for a while when i looked in the backmirror my friend and natalee were kissing and touching (his hands etc was in her blouse but nothing nude or against natalees will ) so my brother siad just leave them for a while untill we get to the lighthouse, when i arrived at the lighthouse i said well here is the lighthouse they did not pay attention to me , so my brother said lets return (i did not stop anywhere not for a min only trafficlights) so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if its holiday inn for sure she is staying so my friend woke her up and confirmed with natalee she was staying at the holiday inn, so i drove to the lobby driveway of holiday inn and then we woke her up, she got out of the car and fell on the floor my friend said damn she fell and then rushed out of the same door natalee came out and picked her up immediately, after she stood up she pushed my friend and said leave me alone or something like that i can't recall , my friend offered to help het to her room she said no. she he stepped in the car and while i was driving away i saw natalee walking towards the lobby and a gentleman with a walkie talkie and black clothes approached her and i think they were talking and i had never seen natalee again sinds.(holiday inn has no cameras in the driveway or lobby) it was around 2.15 am .monday i came to work normally 4- 11 pm after work i called my friend i said whats up he said ok i'm at the raddison casino meet me there , i said ok so i went there we played poker , we had some drinks and chat and then we had enough and decided that this casino was booring lets go to whyndham hotel casino . so i drove to whyndham and as i was parking my friends dad called him and said the police is at his home with some family members its about the girl you guys went out with yesterday , so my friend said wait there i be there, so we rushed at my friends home and there was the police and nataless family and it was a nightmare sinds then. the police asked us if we knew this girl showed us a picture we said yes thats her , they said she was missing and eyewitness say she was the last seen with you guys . so they asked a few more questions and we said we don't understand we left her at holiday inn lobby drive way how could she dissapear and then natalees stepfather jumped and said ''yes thats because after she went with you assholes she lost'' and then my friends father jumped and said thats enough you can't talk to the kids like that this is not the us your out of you juristiction this is not the way i want you people out of my yard i know the law (my friends father is e judge) so afterwards another family member of natalee suggested to the police if we can id the security gard we said ok. we went there there was no suck security working there as we discribed. so then we were just standing in the lobby there were questions etc. asked by other members , and then me and my friend walked to the car natalees mom was sitting and we said mam you have to believe us we did not do anything with you daughter, she was crying and said i don't believe you 2 , i promise you i will make you life a living hell because of this . anwyas we said we were sorry again ans that we will help in any way possible.i went home 7 pm tuesday, i was then called 2 pm by the police for questioning i went gave a statement they said i was a witness no suspect the same went for my brother and my friend they were questionded and had to sign their statement also , the checked my car and i was clear to go , wednesday i was called again to show them how i drove the route that day ( i could refuse was my right i still decided to go , as did my brother and friend ) the drove us one by one and then we were free to go again.thursday morning my friend called me (he goes to aruba international school and his mother is a teacher there and he is a straight A student ) in panic and said there a re family members here at school and they are sharing flyers and the flyers said : GIRL KIDNAPPED ASK JORAN VANDER SLOOT (thats my friends name ) the principle asked them to leave and they did .so thats my part of the story yesterday and today it was quiet no treathen phoncalls what we got before and i won't mention the crazythings the newspapers etc. writes about us its to much to mention. at home my mom is losing it she is cryimg constantly , my dad bloodpressure got high also his hands are red , my friends home is a disaster also ,his mom is crying constantly also his dad is pretty cool he calmes us down and talks to us also not to worry , my brother is preety cool but on his face you see he is worried , my friend is pretty worried also. i'm pretty worried also , we have 2 lawyers one for my friend and one for me in case we get arrested and charched with something his dad can't defend hin he is a judge and he is too emotional attached .my friend has his graduation this thursday he has to go to the states in july he has a full scholarship. i had to go to vacation also end of this month.many politicians find we should be locked up rightnow.We heard a lot of false alarms that she was dead , she was seen with 2 guys , her hair is cut and is red now ,she was in a crackhouse etc, we were arrested and , my car is by the police we confessed to murder and rape, she went in a restaurant to buy food but none of those were true.So (name deleted) that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them

So (NAME DELETED) i will say goodbye now hope you believe me and i pray to god that they find natalee soon and find her well so that this nightmare ends for all of us and they we prove we had nothing to do with this, i hope you pray for all of us say hi to everyone there hope to hear from you soon and may god bless.........

bye bye

Deepak.

[cal]

I think Joran or the Kalpoo bros will eventually boast one day to one or more individuals and be tried w/murder; along with the rest of the Aruban authorities.

[Moscow girl]

The fact that father advised his son to "not say anything at school or it can be used against him" and advised him how such criminal proceedures are handled, is not a proof of crime or a suggestion of "involvement in the crime".

In most countries, people when arrested, are advised of their rights. "You have a right to remain silent, be represented by a lawyer, etc......"

I still want Natalee's case resolved fairly and hopefully to bring some peace to her family. This insident is no an "assult on America", it's a human tragedy that can happen in any country to any person.

But it is getting harder to be "sympathetic" to Natalee's "sympathizers" and their "cause"....

I can understand a "Human Outrage", but it should not come wrapped in "Red, White and Blue", or any country's flag.

It's unfortunate that "some" media and "some" people have chosen to keep the interest to this story alive by fueling the "Nationalistic sentiments".

There is enough issues and tragedy in this story to appeal to human intellect and emotions, and human intellect and emotions only!

Maybe Joran, and/or the boys and/or others ARE guilty of something or a crime! But then maybe Aruban legal and investigation units have done all they could under the circumstances.... And if body is not found, and there is no confessions, there maybe not enough circumstantial evidence to convict any of the suspects. That's how the legal system works in ANY civilized country, regardless of some variations.

Do you want "blood" at any cost just because YOU AMERICANS decided one of the following?
- some-one has to "pay for it"!
- you are convinced that "Joran and others" are guilty.
- your "national pride" is hurt because "little Aruba" is not "doing it your way".
- etc....

What if Aruban authorities did all they could? What if it took place in USA the result would be the same under the circumstances?

What do you want to happen now?
- have the boys torchured like in Iraq or USSR?
- find them guilty and hang them just becuase YOU AMERICANS think they are guilty?
- would you be happy hearing 10 years from now that it's not them "who did it", but some more serious "gang of criminals"?

Do you want different laws and procedures applied to the suspects than you would want to apply to you if you were accused?

Some mistakes have been made in the initial stages of investigation, but think Aruba and Dutch government are treating this case very seriously, doing all they can, and certainly are not "sweeping it under the rug".....

Some cases do go unsolved and suspects do go free...... The reality of the "world" is not like on CSI - 5 different crimes are all solved in 45 minutes.....

Learn to accept such situations, and quite acting like "imperialistic porcinus" who's "whish is everyone's command".

Those who don't want to travel to Aruba or foreign lands because they are "insulted and proud Americans"... Don't! Keep your tourist money. Stay home. I don't think people want you with such attitude in their countries, even if you are "paying clients".

This is not a good attitude at the times of "globalization" when the whole civilized world is heading towards "unity" and "cooperation".

[Midge]

What kind of man tells his kids "no body no crime" How sick is that?

[calista]

who cares if that letter or e mail is reallly from deepak? it is a lie anywys - by his own admission it is a lie - people with nothing to hide don't lie period - even if they were scared because they were the last ones with her - who makes up a detailed lie like they saw her approached by 2 black guards with black clothes on? I can't believe this is still going on - what a mess Aruba has made of this - I odn't know natalee holloway but you know what? I don't even believe she was drunk and dancing all over tables as they said - I think they probably put something in her drink and why in the free world is her mother staying so quiet about all these things she supposedly "knows" this is the strangest case I have ever seen

[Dutchiss]

3 years ago in The Netherlands a man was convicted for murdering his wife although her body was never found. If there is other evidence conviction is possible

[calista]

maybe it isn't joran s dad covering for him maybe it is joran covering for his dad - anyone ever think maybe paul vander sloot killed natalee - maybe he si the one with the sicko sex fantasies

[Flowers4u]

I am sick and tired of PVDS and his cronies. His children know they did something bad, and giving advice "no body, no crime." He already knew they had nothing to worry about. I agree it was a cover up/plot from the get go, by certain parties. For the authorities who think they are above the law like PVDS does, all I have to say it is about to hit you in the mouth as "Voice Analysis" is on the verge to point out who is on the team, and who will be fed to the sharks.

[Lily]

"No body, no crime": Yes, that certainly does suggest that Paul vdS knew Natalee's body would not be found...but more to the point, it makes pretty damned clear that he knew there WAS a body! In other words, he knew Natalee had been killed and his son was involved! How disgusting. How reprehensible. So Natalee's family can go on indefinitely suffering the torment of not knowing where their daughter is or what happened to her, but all Paul vdSloot can come up with is No body, No crime...No problem. What an a$$hole.

[PT]

I think it is quite possible that Paul VDS, like awyers and dads in the US, might have really informed or educated the boys about the law. For instance, they can be charged for a missing person, they can be charged with murder if a missing person body is found and they were the last seen, even if they are innocent maybe. So, a lot to think about there. In the US same thing people are informed of when someone comes missing and police question. You people know this is the same info folks are told in the US. Everyone should have an opinion though but ????? ever heard of being read rights in the US? Like that and some explanation of the law. I doublt PVDS would want to instruct kids his wife said are mates they don't know well to lie etc. I would bet he was very professional how he was dealing with two boys likely to tell all in interrogations he didn't really know well, Come on do you think we should quit getting legal advise in the US until after the investigation?

PT

[JimmyJoeBillyBob]

"No Body, No Crime"

This is catchy, I suppose it reminds me of the Bob Marley song, "No Woman, No Cry". For that father to have said this to his kid was despicable. Catchy though.

This also explains why that police guy Dompig had to retract his statements about the suspect that said "Something bad happened to Natalee" and that the suspect was going to lead them to the body. Someone shut him up immediately and he backtracked. This does sound mafia related now. Who would want to go to a mafia run vacation resort? No thanks.