In Other News

Working today, as usual - if you want some other news and you like Drudge but also might like reading blogs - Drudge has grown too big for blogs, or so I've heard - here's an alternative which includes blogs, as well as a ton of news: you might even prefer it to the Internet pioneer with a weather fetish. Just click here.

Comments

[Mary]

DAN....oh my. Been there done that in the past.
I know....You do not have the time to go through the maze so you want us to get to work for you and see what we come up with thats new that we may have missed and alert you of it. LOL....
I have some time but not enough for that maze...
Happy day to you!! :O)

[Kelli]

Appreciate the link Dan...Thanks

[Chris]

Arubian newspaper Bondia states that one of the detainees in the Holloway case is very depressed and might have tried to commit suicide

An interesting piece of info

[claire]

hi chris is that article online-can we try to decipher with a translator?

[Chris]

Claire,

Check www.bondia.com and download section A
If your having problems mail me and i'll send you the PDF

[claire]

ok so this is it? ORANJESTAD—Un di e detenidonan den e caso di Natalee Holloway, lo a trata di
pone fin na su bida. Esaki segun informe cu Bon Dia Aruba ta dispone di dje. E hoben lo
ta den un estado emocional hopi deprimi debi na e presion cu tin riba dje, y autoridadnan
awor tin’e na bista, pa mira cu e no tuma un paso drastico contra su mes.
No ta conoci si a busca sosten psicologico pa e detenido aki, specialmente awor cu tur lo
mester keda traslada pa KIA.
Bon Dia Aruba lo sigui e caso aki di serca

[claire]

ok cool

oranjestad—un of the detenidonan in the caso of natalee holloway, will owing to deal of place end at his life. this according informe cu good morning aruba is dispone of dje. the young will is in one estado emocional much deprimi debi at the presion cu have on dje, y autoridadnan now tin’e at view, for see cu the not take one pace drastico contra his self. do not conoci if owing to busca sosten psicologico for her detenido here, specialmente now cu all will have to stay traslada for kia. good morning aruba will follow the caso here of serca

[Chris]

From Bondia aruba

Suspect in Holloway's case is said to have tried to put an end to his life

Oranjestad, One of the suspects in the natalee Holloway case, is said to have tried to put an end to his life. This from info that Bondia got. The young man appears to be in a very depressed emotional state due to all the pressure put on him, and authorities are now keeping a close look on him to make sure he does harm himself.
It is not known if psychological help is being sought for this suspect, especially now that all of them will be send to the KIA prison
Bondia will keep a close tap on this info.

This could mean that if indeed this gentleman cracks by killing himself, it could put a very bitter turn on this whole case and we then may never find out what has really happened. What can be better than, if your guikty to put the blame on someone who has just commited suicide?

I hope they keep all of them alive so that can get a trail and get the punishment they deserve

[tanya]

Monday, June 20, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — An Aruban judge on Monday ruled that there is enough probable cause to continue holding a fourth suspect in the disappearance of American tourist Natalee Holloway (search), FOX News has confirmed.

A spokesperson for the prosecution confirmed to FOX News that Steve Croes, 26, who works as a disc jockey on a tourist party boat in Aruba called "The Tatoo," will now be detained for another eight days. The new timetable began at 2 p.m. EDT Sunday and will end next Monday.

[Chris]

Damn claire,

How many strokes on that keyboard a minute do you get? :)

[claire]

what you mean i'm slow or fast? am still on the other discussion board some interesting info
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/natalee_hollowa_32.html

[Chris]

Claire

Your like a car on nitro

[Maarten Mannee]

4th suspect in custody fot 8 more days

http://www.bloggie.nl/english/archives/judge_rules_to_hold_steve_croes.html

[Matt]

Hey Dan,
Hope you have an update or two for later tonight.
So the only confirmed news today is that Steven Croejs is further remanded in custody for another eight days. Just wondering-what do they have on him?
And Chris any further info on whether it is confirmed that one of the suspects truly attempted to commit suicide and which one is it? I know its tough to gather any confirmed info-just curious.
Dan thanks for your efforts once again

[writingal]

I just heard on a local news report that Natalee had been on the Tatoo sometime before she disappeared.

[writingal]

I just heard on a local news report in the U.S. that Natalee had been on the Tatoo sometime before she disappeared.

[Jack]

Local as in AL? Any news from Aruba?

[Mary]

I FOUND THIS ON THIS LINK..
http://www.olmco.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/rvbooth/f3a/fa.pl?msg=3

BUT I WAS NOT SURE IT WOULD COME UP CORRECTLY SO I COPIED THE WHOLE THING. There are other posts but i am still trying to figure out how to find them. lol

Beginning of thread
From: Administrator

posted: 06.20.2005/09:37
Post your opinions, theories, gripes and other information about the Natalee Holloway situation here.

Administrator

Reply #1
From: Billy Eseyen

posted: 06.20.2005/11:23
Tips, hunches led family to suspects

By Jay Reeves
The ######ociated Press

Natalee Holloway, center, 18, stands with high school friends Frances Bird, left, and Claire Fierman at their Mountain Brook High School senior banquet in Mountain Brook. The three friends attended their high school graduation trip to Aruba during which Holloway disappeared May 30.
-- AP photos courtesy of Beth Twitty

Natalee Holloway's family, not Aruban police, first identified and located a Dutch youth now held as a suspect in the disappearance of the Alabama ######, according to a friend who helped with the search.

The family's quick work -- a combination of hunches, tips and amateur detective work on the Caribbean island -- also led to two of the youth's friends who also were taken into custody. But it ultimately was met by frustration when authorities failed to quickly arrest the trio, which included the son of a prominent Dutch ministry official.

"She had been missing less than 24 hours and we had all three names and addresses, so it's just disappointing that they weren't able to move faster," said Jody Bearman, who organized the trip to Aruba for 125 students from Mountain Brook High School and seven chaperones.

The three weren't taken into custody until 10 days after Holloway's family knew of them, and the search continued Saturday for Holloway, an honors student set to attend the University of Alabama on a full scholarship this fall.

Aruban authorities have defended their work in the nearly three weeks since Holloway failed to show up for the trip home to Alabama. Police work takes time, they have said.

Natalee Holloway, left, stands with her mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, at their Mountain Brook home May 24.

Mariaine Croes, a spokeswoman for the attorney general's office in Aruba, declined comment Saturday on how authorities initially learned of the three suspects.

"We have to wait for the investigation to finish," she said. A fourth suspect, the DJ from a party boat, also is in custody.

Speaking in an interview with The ######ociated Press late Friday, Bearman said Aruban authorities weren't totally to blame for their early failure to identify van der Sloot and the others, something she said the amateur sleuths did in less than three hours in Aruba.

"They did not know what was going on," she said. "We were there on a mission."

Terrified after hearing news any parent dreads, Beth Holloway Twitty landed in Aruba about 12 hours after learning her daughter Natalee had vanished during a graduation trip.

Accompanied by her husband and friends including Bearman on a donated corporate jet, Holloway Twitty had a few bits of information from Mountain Brook graduates who were on the trip, most importantly a physical description of a Dutch ######ager -- a judge's son, they thought -- with whom Natalee was seen leaving a bar, Carlos' N Charlies', on May 30, the night she disappeared.

Bearman said the group also was told that Holloway's friends had seen the same ######ager in the casino at the hotel where they were staying.

With help from some locals, Holloway's mother and the others determined the youth had been in the casino playing in a Texas Hold 'Em poker tournament, according to Bearman.

In this handout photo, Natalee Holloway, 18, left stands with her father, Dave Holloway, on her graduation day from Mountain Brook High School in Mountain Brook May 24.

Players had to sign in, she said, and that gave them a name and initial: Joran V.

"After talking to enough people, we were able to deduce that it was Joran van der Sloot," she said. "Once we got the name we were able to track the address through people and we got the police. They escorted us and we went straight to the house."

Van der Sloot's father, Aruban judge-in-training Paul van der Sloot, said his son was out playing poker when the group first arrived at the house about 1 a.m., Bearman said. Still accompanied by police, the group went to a couple of places looking for van der Sloot before returning to the father's house and finding Joran van der Sloot there with one of the two Surinamese brothers who later were held.

"Basically we interrogated him," Bearman said. "He never denied being with her."

Van der Sloot described dancing with Holloway at the bar and said "she wanted to go with me" at closing time, according to Bearman.

Van der Sloot claimed he left Holloway outside the Holiday Inn resort where the group was staying after they took a late-night trip to a scenic lighthouse, Bearman said, and he even accompanied the family to the hotel to show them the exact spot where she was dropped off.

His story didn't add up, though, according to Bearman.

"We started pressing him on that because we had students who were in the lobby until 5 a.m., and she never arrived," she said.

While Aruban police were present during the questioning of van der Sloot, which lasted until about 3 a.m., officers left the talking to Holloway's family until things began to get "heated," Bearman said.

Van der Sloot and the Surinamese brothers -- Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18 -- were interrogated by police the next day and released. While later taken into custody, no one has been charged.

Two one-time security guards were taken into custody because van der Sloot and the brothers said they saw Holloway outside the hotel with a security guard, but both have since been released.

The fourth person in custody, Steve Gregory Croes, 26, played music on a tourist party barge called the "Tattoo," but none of the Mountain Brook ######s were known to have gone on the boat, Bearman said. An employer of Croes said the disc jockey knew one of the Surinamese brothers through an Internet cafe.

[Mary]

I found this link while ago. INTERESTING INFO.

http://www.olmco.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/rvbooth/f3a/fa.pl?msg=3

ALSO, it was rather long so rather than post it here on our page we have going i posted the entire article in the "other news" catagory on this site if you want to simply read it instead of going to the link i gave you.