FYI

I want to thank everyone for coming by for any additional information. Unfortunately, I've been in business meetings or otherwise busy and as previously noted don't usually post much if at all during the day. Add that to 0 hours of sleep last night ...

The bits of information I have posted were all I was able to grab from my email from earlier today. Sorry but I couldn't even format it correctly - just no time.

The fact is, until I arrive home in an hour or so, check and read mail and return some calls - you know much more than me right now as to what developments may be occuring. I want to thank everyone for their emails and support and I hope for the best for Natalee and her family. I'm sorry I haven't been able to address certain issues. I hope to update later depending upon the news.

Thank you all for dropping in. Hope to be back soon.

Comments

[pw]

Dan,

We all appreciate your honesty and dedication. You rock!

[Getagrip]

We <3 Dan!

[Shaun-Marie]

Dan, I was directed here from a web search while looking up info on this whole ordeal and I have been hooked on your site since. You are doing a great job!! I've been reading your whole darn site since I got here... I must say lots of laundry in my house is not getting done because of you. :::smiles::: Anyway...you're doing a great job keeping us all up to date!!

[Chel]

I can't imagine how you have been able to get as much done on this story that you have, plus have a real life job as well. Thank you for your time and effort, without your site, I doubt I would have found as much info as I was trying to find. Keep up the incredible site... it is now my 1st listed site in my favorites :D

[littletxlady]

Ditto...you and Steve @ The Dark Side have done an absolutley incredible job!!! What would all of us "crime buffs" do without you guys?!?!! Kudos to you both! =D>

[tippy]

Dan, we continue to trust you. Good luck bringing this to closure for us. Thanks!

[jules]

has George Bush called the Holloway family or the Aruban officials to offer help???

[Lana]

From what I have just heard on the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News, the Kalpoe brothers are saying they dropped Joran Van Der Sloot and Natalee Holloway off at the beach site currently being combed by police. On the other hand, Joran is stating that he was dropped off at home first by the Kalpoe brothers and they were the last ones with Natalee. These are two very different stories, both substantially different from the initial story involving the security guards that all three told. What am I wondering is,why have I heard no mention of LIE DETECTOR TESTS?

[pw]

Lana,

From what I understand (but I am not Aruban or Dutch), lie detectors are illegal/inadmissable under Dutch law because they are unreliable.

[CT]

Lana - lie detectors aren't used in dutch system; they are considered as unreliable.

[Lina]

Dan, thank you for keeping us informed. Ever since I have discovered your site, I have been checking back regularly to read about Natalee. I am so frustrated; I can only imagine what her family is going through. I pray for Natalee and for her family. Thank you for giving us a place to turn to for information.

[jodie]

Maybe the brothers did drop off the Dutch boy at his home, and later met them at the beach with Natalee. While at home, Joran would be able to get the duct tape or other supplies he thought they may need. I feel the 3 were involved, but blaming each other.

[mamjoraan]

I think all the three boys were involved in her disappearance. If the Kalpoes were innocent, they would have confessed already what had happened to NH and tried to get out of the jail as soon as possible. On the other hand, it is not rare to suggest that the local authorities are trying to protect the Aruban image, so if there is no body found, then there will be no case at all, and NH case shall remain a mystery. Aruba will be the same "nice safe place again", visited by many Yankees etc, with the bucks coming inside. The panty and condoms they found could also be placed there by somebody to mislead the investigation. Or it could be stuff that has been left back by a couple who went over there and had sex (because the place is known as "lovers lane") Another possibility is that JVDS and the Kalpoes sold her to Columbian/Venezuelan pimps and received money for their deed. They loved to gamble, maybe they were in debt (they borrowed money from the gangsters/pimps to play poker) and they decided to kidnap and sell her to those folks for the sake of money, because daddy won't give those spoiled brats more money. It also could be possible that the guard just lied that the boy confessed to him, so that he could be released quickly (because that was the case also). Only one thing is very clear, and that is that this trio knows exactly what has happened to Nathalee. If they were living in Suriname, the case would have been solved already in 24 hours, because we have a Special Force in the Police Department known as the Arrestatie Team (Arresting Team or just A-Team) They stand above the law and have far-reaching competency given by the Attorney General. In this case they would arrest the boys at a very, very rude manner, and on the way to the Police Department, they would beat those boys very bad up in their dark Van, so bad, that they would confess everything before they would arrive in front of a Assistant Officer of Justice!~. Anyway, it is a very interesting case...

Mamjo.com man from Suriname

[pegaleets]

This is what I don't understand. The brothers stated that they dropped Joran and Natalee off together. It was my understanding that in the night of question they were in Joran's silver car and not the brother's. Did the brothers take Joran's car home with them that night?

[szillygirl]

Dan! You're doing a 'Bang-up' job! Thank you!

Now, go take a power nap before you crash and burn.

[jodie]

Maybe a possibility, pegaleets is....the 3 boys drove together on their venture out for the evening. With Joran driving to the club and the brothers as passangers. After Natalee was pursuaded to enter the vehicle, they went to Joran's house so the brothers could retrieve their transportation...and off the beach they went.

[Buckley F. Williams]

You are being far too hard on yourself. Keep the info coming. It's the content that's important. If I wanted nicely packaged lies I'd go to the mainstream media.

[Jim Saxon]

Dan,

Thank you for the stalwart marshalling of information on Natalee Holloway's disappearance and the apparently politically-driven investigation that has followed.

If I may comment, I think that the government of Aruba has grossly underestimated the world-wide attention that this case has brought to a "routine" missing tourist complaint. I wonder if it wouldn't be useful to apply a bit of pressure via a boycott of Aruba by US and other tourists. Perhaps if a couple of hundred thousand fewer travelers visited Paradise, the Arubans would be willing to find a perpetrator among the three rich kids who participated in the obvious crime that has been committed. For the Arubans to pursue a coverup that they hope will look like mere incompetence is a ploy we should strongly condemn. I think it is time that we accuse the government of Aruba is acting as an accessory after the fact in Natalee's disappearance. I say boycott Aruba now!

Jim

[Senior's Mom]

I think it would be in the best interest of the Holloway family to start their own investigation into Joran Van der Sloot's life. They need to retrieve those photos of Joran and his other female friends, identify those girls, contact them for information. Find out his M.O. w/females.If he mistreated Natalee, it probably wasn't the first time.Someone out their may come forward & share their experience. If they could PIN him to the wall, maybe he'd be forced to give information about her location.

[pw]

Senior's Mom,
Good idea. They should secure Victims' Rights Advocate Gloria Allred to represent them. She'll get to the bottom of it all.

[Scott]

Dan,

You are doing an incredible job. This story may end sadly, but if anything has come about, it has also made us more aware of others, such as Amy Bradley (we need to find her too!!!!!) I would encourage everyone to do what they can to get the word out so that hopefully at least one of them will come home safely. I would like to see a covert operation into South America to raid the brothels like Bush Sr.'s raid on the drug dens in Colombia in the late 1980's-early 1990's. Heck, much of the world hates us already anyway. What have we got to loose when it might mean saving our own people?

By the way, has anyone had any contact with Carlos n' Charlie's in Aruba. such as with regards to the fact that the slimballs were regulars there?

What did the staff observe that night or any night with regards to VDS and his cronies? What about the allegations of bartenders drugging drinks?

I cannot call while online, but there phone number is:

Phone(s): 00(297)582-0355

[Terri]

Boycott Aruba, Jim? Don't worry. I've permanently scratched Aruba off my vacation list. I've heard Aruba is very beautiful, and the people are very friendly. I HAD considered going there in the future but no more. The way NH's case has been handled to date shows me that the police there are complete idiots. Who in their right mind would question the last 3 people to see NH alive and release them, giving the probable murderers time to dispose of evidence, move a body, or do anything else to derail an investigating "team." Yes, the word "team" is used very loosely. What if I needed the help of Aruba's police while vacationing there? Forget it! I'd be SOL for sure. I'll go on vacation somewhere else and spend my money, thank you very much. Aruba will lose lots of tourist dollars UNLESS somebody confesses and the young woman is found (dead or alive) in the very near future. If I was NH's mother, I would have lost my patience with the way the investigation was progressing a long time ago. It's time for her to really raise some cain if she ever wants to find out what happened to her daughter. And I mean raise CAIN, MRs. H.

[Kim]

Did anyone see Geraldo Rivera on O'Reilly Factor tonight? Geraldo sure shed some light on Joran's past. Runs all over the island, has one of the nicest cars on the island even though hes not 18 yet, very well known at the school he went to. Gang-raped a fifteen year old and something in reference to trying to sell her to Venezuela. I was shocked. He also said that he was told from a reliable source that something to the effect that the police chief didn't want to pursue this Joran "his father is one of my best friends". Can't get transcripts of the show until noon tomorrow. Going to see if it comes on again later.
www.billoreilly.com

[Lou]

Jim Saxon, you are right on target. We all need to boycott Aruba, and stop supporting their economy with our tourist dollars.

[Arubian]

Terri, i'm a Arubian! We from Aruba always respect the American people. Aruba is a very save island, but things can happend.And about tourist last saturday our island recieve about 5000 visitors(tourist) and most of them are students US) . Do you know how many murders or kidknapping you have in your country? Even the FBI can resolve them. Please respect our police officer because we always repect yours. I know my English is bad, sorry about that.

[Alabamagal]

Dan,
I'm from Mountain Brook and have heard "second hand news" of the following and was wondering if it has been verified:

Apparently Natalee had met this dutch guy Joran before in Aruba, then they kept in touch with each other by internet. So then they decided that they would meet again in Aruba.

[JimL]

I am so enthralled and frustrated with this case. I think the interest comes in, because it is such a real situation. I have been on college spring break three times (Cancun, Acapulco), and I have been knee-deep in the party scene. I binged drink, blacked out, and saw many girls do the same. Being a guy, I don't have to worry about a situation like this as much, if at all. I am so deeply saddenned for Natalie and her family, and it makes me sick the way this case is handled.

The so-called ignorant Aruban law-enforcement team has f*ck#d everything up, and quite possibly ended someone's life. I wish the US gov't would put the clamp down on this case and use its power to force it's hand on the case handlers. Bring a large FBI team in NOW before with certainty it is too late!!(only 5 FBI agents and a dog on scene today)

[Marj]

No that is not correct- Geraldo on O'Reilly tonight said "he has anger management problems, has even gangbanged a 14 year old, made a video of the gangbang and sold the video on the island" - not tried to sell the GIRL to Venezuela. Also, on the last post from Mt. Brook - there was a real fiasco that morning when Natalee left C&C, some of her friends did try to stop her from going with the boys, but she didn't care to listen to them. Matter of fact a male friend even went over to the car & told Natalee she was not going with them & she blew him off also (almost came to a pushing match and blows with Joran & her male friend that was trying to keep her from leaving with them) she left anyway with the 3 boys. I was even told that as she drove away, she waved bye to her friends. This info comes from a male that is good friends with the Mt. Brook male that tried to stop them.
My gut feeling is this: We have been told that Natalee had been drinking that night, one of the boys put G in her drink OR ruffie(date rape drug) the alcohol & drug was too much for her system and she died on them & they freaked out not knowing what to do & disposed of her somewhere. GOD & these boys are the only ones that know.
We also know that Joran is certified in many levels of Scuba diving, so he is very knowledgable about the 2 main currents that run along the island. The same currents that transport sea turtles a thousand miles away. These currents are very forceful. This is just another thought I had.
May the Lord lead us in the right direction. No stone left unturned.
Thanks for listening.

[Debbie]

For all the meatheads that are asking if van der sloot will be or can be extradited to the US, I'll give you a tip on the law. He can only be extradited to the US if, he has broken the law on US soil. If he walked into the US embassy of his own free will, he still can not be "extradited" to the US. If he were walking down mainstreet USA and had entered the country legally he still could not be tried for any crime not committed on American soil. He would more than likely be extradited to Aruba.

[freemymind]

Caribbean News has received a large number of emails concerning the investigation in Aruba into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/2005/06/15/teen.shtml
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FBI playing second fiddle in Aruba

http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/2005/06/15/fiddle.shtml

[MominTN]

I heard on the news that the Dutch have taken over the investigation. If nothing comes out of this and the trio gets off, we should boycott Aruba! They bungled the investigation from the start by not searching the last people Natalee was with for physical evidence. After the boys have lied several times with different stories about what has happened and are in jail, why should we believe the two brothers over Joran or vice versa. If someone was innocent, they would have come forward to begin with. What they need to tell each of them, is that the others have said that he was the last one with her and that the only way he is getting out on probation is to tell what he did with the body. Of course, they aren't going to do this, so without her body, this will go unsolved. The media will support the tourist industry which will claim this is just one isolated event that never happens on their island. Just because crime isn't reported or prosecuted, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I doubt the rape or disappearance of a poor black woman would be documented, especially if it reflected on their safety record. Everything that happens anywhere is about power and money. When you give your tourist dollars to the islands which support prostitution and drug trafficking, you are supporting those who profit from it. You may be supporting people who raise the next Joran or who deny responsibility for poisoning innocent people with alcohol and drugs. And when you research the illegal trade that goes thru Aruba where people from there and surrounding area are being tried in the USA, you will not want to go there. If you really support saying no to drugs and maintain that prostitution degrades women, then spend your vacation dollars in the USA. We need all the help with our economy that we can get, and there are many beautiful and interesting places to visit without the drugs and prostitution to prey upon your children.

[Checkme]

While searching (during the island wide civilian effort) I was thinking... if somebody wanted to "dispose" (apolagies for using this cruel word for a fine person as NH is) of a body they would do so most easily by throwing it in the ocean. At Westpunt the current would take away a body in no time and the sharks will clean up in a matter of minutes. Letting the body in the water would take more than one person. For sure getting it there would require a car for transportation.
After that it would require steel nerves to keep quiet to authorities. The latter Joran most probably does not have. He is too externally oriented ("tough image") which makes me think he is the opposite inside.

[PAR3]

Boycott Aruba? That won't work. There will always be some mentally depraved fool who wants to go there anyway..now to see where Natalee Holloway was lost/sold/killed. I am beginning to have that same "warm" feeling about Aruba that I had every time I saw an American beheaded in Iraq...to Hell with boycotts..NUKE 'EM!!!

[Yliana]

I hope you have that same "warm" feeling of nuking your own when you saw how American military men and women sodomized Iraqis - it was all over YOUR news media! If the world were to boycott countries where crime is left unsolved then, look in the mirror because in the US there are thousands still unsolved. I'm Aruban and it really saddens me to read the hate messages towards us. This is frustrating to us all; we feel for Natalee's family. No mother, no father no family should know what loss of a child is. Aruba is the safest island in the Caribbean and after this incident, it still is. If you want to boycott Aruba, it is after all your prerogative but then reconsider leaving your own front door and see if that makes you any safer than walking our streets.

As for the case itself, you shouldn't judge what you know nothing of. In the US you can't hold a person for much long on suspicion alone - you have to have reasonable evidence. In Aruba, you can be detained for up to 116 days on suspicion alone. During that time police can pursue their investigation. We can argue all day whose legal system is superior; but you can not guarantee me that no innocent person has never gone to jail nor guarantee that a guilty person has never gone free in your system.

Your boycott intentions are aimed at a people who have done nothing but support the Holloways, prayed with and for them, helped search for Natalee, donated money for reward, and done everything possible to assist the family. Do you think boycotting Aruba is going to help the government shape up? They earn the big money in Aruba - If for example $1 is our national income and the govt receives 0.50, they will keep getting that 0.50 even if the income diminished to say 0.80. the 0.20 will have to be shared by the people. Luckily we receive on the island thousands of letters from Americans who see this incident for what it is - a tragic isolated incident and who will not now or ever hold the PEOPLE of Aruba responsible for Natalee's disappearance or for the alleged incompetence of law enforcement.

I don't hold the American people responsible for a war the American goverment started that turned out to be the biggest international joke. WMD - yeah right! I wonder what would happen if the international community were to boycott American products. It is not fair because the American people should not take the blame for actions or lack of action by the government.

It is very easy to point your finger and accuse an entire nation. Just remember that no one is perfect and no nation is without fault, including your own.

[Nathaly]

Aruba is a Dutch protectorate. With dutch laws, its not American territory and that is something that Americans will have to understand. To boycott Aruba is ridiculous because that won't change the laws. To change it you have to knock on Hollands door. Don't think that a boycott will make much of a difference. Aruba is a rich island, with oil from Venezuela, big companies and financiel support from the Netherlands. Furthermore Aruba will always have tourism, no matter how hard y'all try to boycott it, tourism will always be. Bot only from true Aruba lovers from the U.S but also other countries like Venezuela, Britain, Holland, Argentina to name a few.

[Helli]

All what Bush did to the world... are you going to boycott the U.S? ofcourse not! So stop this crazy talk

[hopefulcanadian]

Hey JimL, Terri, or anybody else that thinks they should "Boycott Aruba" over Natalee Holloway's case; I think you should also Boycott Texas. That's right; Texas. Why you ask? Why was it again that Mr. Miller the head of the Texas search company started his work? Oh yes; because when his daughter in AMERICA went missing; AMERICAN police IGNORED him, and told him she was just a runaway. She was later found dead; and her case was never solved. Chandra Levy case, same idea; girl (intern) gone missing after an affair with a prominent politician Gary Condit, found dead 22 months later; case never solved.
So honestly, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, America's Justice system has MANY MANY flaws, and the handling of Mr. Miller's daughter's case; was MUCH worse than ANYTHING that is happening in Aruba now.
And lets talk about that for a sec shall we; what's happening in Aruba; so; fighter jets, Dutch Marines, people getting time off to search for her, local Arubans donating $20,000 US to help search for her... what else? Oh yes, THIER tax dollars paying for the investigation of this missing American girl. But oh yes, there would have been fighter jets for SURE looking for an Aruban girl gone missing in Alabama. And I'm sure the people of Aruba would be demanding that the local Alabama police should let Dutch law take over their investigations, should an Aruban girl go missing in their state.
I must say I am sorry at the dripping sarcasm in this letter; but I am fed up with sanctimonious people (a minority of most Americans, the rest are usually QUITE level headed and kind), trying to hold OTHER societies up to their own, and judging. Are you KIDDING ME??? This coming from a country that has one of the HIGHEST per capita crime rates in the WORLD???? Is the American Justice system working SO MUCH BETTER????!!!
If it does; then what happened to Tim Miller's daughter???? What happened to Chandra Levy???? Why was that disgusting Duncan man allowed out of jail; a CHILD MOLESTER, to kidnap and rape Shasta, and kill her family??? MANY MANY FLAWS..... So, who do we boycott there?
Innocent Aruban livelihoods are at risk because of rash, war-drum-beating remarks like the ones made here by people wanting to boycott Aruba. Check out THIER stats; its a lovely, peaceful SAFE country, 90- odd jail cells in the WHOLE COUNTRY; and more than HALF filled by non-Arubans. Please people; don't post hateful and hurtful remarks like that; it only confirms stereotypes people have in other countries that Americans push themselves upon other nations, and feeds anti-American sentiment. It frankly worries me, the perception many countries have about America, because I KNOW that it is a country of mainly kind, giving and open-minded and open-hearted people. Start acting like those Americans, and stop spreading "anti-" remarks, and start being more productive. Pray for Natalee and her family, post how we can all help her family, that's far more productive than just denouncing an entire country. People that denounce an entire country because of the actions of a few or what they perceive to be a problematic government is what we see in people that hate America, and want to do it harm; don't display that same sentiment, in even a SMALL degree to ANY other country, even if its just in the form of a "boycott" or you're just like them.

[Tyler]

Umm does anyone honestly care that some whore went off to get gangbanged and turned up missing? IMO a woman who has sex with multiple men at once isnt worth a criminal investigation, much less a website talking about the whore. Get over it, thousands of quality people get kidnapped and brutally murdered every year, care about someone who matters. Just my advice.