We learn that Natalee was with Joran as early as 9:30 PM on the night of her disappearance from the Birmingham News. And also learn that Steve Croes is said to be a "good guy," who, because of his DJ work, sleeps all day and is usually awake all night.
And Carlos and Charlies is back in action with a "First Saturday of Every Month is Ladies Night" theme. No cover, free bar from ten to eleven with men not allowed in until after eleven. And they're "World Famoso" with a 21 yr. old age limit. No doubt.
I wonder if Joran will need a new fake ID if he walks? At least C&C is doing their part to loosen up the ladies and lower inhibitions before they let the gentlemen in.
Question: Was imbedding the picture of a provocative looking blonde in their Ladies Night web ad really a good idea?
No.
Posted by: Phantom | Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 09:59 PM
it was a stupid, money grubbing idea from a low life club owner who is only interested in profiting off of NH's tragic situation!
Posted by: sara | Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 10:10 PM
Has anyone considered that this whole "VanderSLUT" issue may be the proverbial "red herring"??? I am not saying that the VanderSLUTS are not shady characters, but I am wondering if the Arubian and FBI have created this drama to throw the scent off of who they are really watching? The red herring thing was executed exceptionally well in the case of the Washington DC sniper case. We really do not know what info is true, and these supposed leaks of info could really be purposely put out there in MSM to make the real perpetrator think that they are "home free"...I dont know..just another thought that runs through my head.
Posted by: DumbBlonde | Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 10:23 PM
The Equisearch folks say they will find her. I thought that they had said they were not hopeful but I think that they meant they are not hopeful of finding her alive. They said that they have found bodies after 20 months in worse conditions. If they find the body, then they can prove that a crime was committed and probably get a good idea of who did it.
Posted by: bamawings | Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 10:30 PM
Question: Was imbedding the picture of a provocative looking blonde in their Ladies Night web ad really a good idea?
Answer: that's sick! if you live there in Aruba go tell them it's low class, plebian, and caters to mentality of people no decent establishment would want to attract.
Posted by: Moscow Girl | Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 11:06 PM
I am surprised that the ownership of C & C's would make such a bad judgement call at this point in time. It's a bit of an "it's not our problem" attitude. sad...
Posted by: Mel | Sunday, June 26, 2005 at 11:31 PM
Yep...pretty low class. I guess Carlos and Charlie's owners have no qualms about their role in Natalee's disappearance. That is...if they had not allowed an underage Joran into their establishment, perhaps things might have turned out differently for Natalee Holloway.
I'm not surprised though...Carlos and Charlie's was a scummy dive before Natalee Holloway and certainly nothing is going to change after.
btw...the C & C site does have a message board....
Posted by: gallowaygirl | Monday, June 27, 2005 at 12:31 AM
Did you guys hear Julie Banderas say she heard that bartenders at Carlos & Charlies could be paid to slip GHB etc. into drinks? I think that ought to get a little more airplay not to mention a lot more investigation by the Aruban heat, such as it is.
Speaking of Banderas, she's a wild one herself, should have enjoyed the hedonist atmosphere of Aruba. Ever of the Fox news van rockin' story?
Too funny! The story is from her days before "big" Fox network.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/233611p-200636c.html
Foxy Lady
If the Fox van's rockin', don't come knockin'.
Apparently WNYW news reporter Julie Banderas likes to have a little fun after she signs off the air.
And yes, there are pictures — which appear to be taken inside the Fox 5 Live truck. There's one of Banderas (beer in one hand, cigarette in the other) straddling a man in the front seat, their crotches pressed together and her ankles wrapped around his head. The man (identified by one source as a married male colleague) appears to be simulating a sex act.
Then there's the one of her against the instrument panel, with another cigarette, only this time she's holding the beer in her cleavage.
And did you know she can lick her own chest with her unusually long tongue?
A rep for Fox 5, who saw the pictures, told me sternly: "We are looking into it."
Party pooper.
Posted by: MrFit | Monday, June 27, 2005 at 02:06 AM
Question: Was imbedding the picture of a provocative looking blonde in their Ladies Night web ad really a good idea?
Answer: I don't see why not, she doesn't look anything like Natalee. because Natalee is blond no one anywhere related to this is allowed to use pictures of blond women anymore? ....
Posted by: Jane | Monday, June 27, 2005 at 04:17 AM
I think C & C is being totally insensitive to the huge numbers of people still in Aruba on the Holloway case. It is sorta, in your face, advertising. I do think Fox should point it out and let the huge media input they have form their own opinions of patronizing C & C. I will be in the Carribean this fall and will never visit another C & C due to their lack of support in this case. It would not surprise me at all if their employee's are not involved in her disappearance.
Posted by: DeeDee | Monday, June 27, 2005 at 06:42 AM
A Fox employee behaving badly? You shock me.
Have you noticed that Greta seems to move the case along while Geraldo seemed to jinx it? She was rumored to have caused Paul's arrest while Geraldo's ill-considered interview with the head of the Justice Department seemed to bolster those who said the arrest was without basis. It seems like the kind of thing that could jeopardize the case. I just saw him moving that female interview subjects hair out of her face. Never seen that before. It might be charming except for what else I've heard about him.
Fox, have some standards! More Greta's, less scumbags!
Posted by: Cerulean | Monday, June 27, 2005 at 08:36 AM
Bamawing wrote in an earlier post "The Equisearch folks say they will find her. I thought that they had said they were not hopeful but I think that they meant they are not hopeful of finding her alive. They said that they have found bodies after 20 months in worse conditions." I was wondering the same. They show a video of Miller saying the chances are "damn slim", and then on Geraldo last night they said they would find her and thought it may be today or tomorrow. Maybe they got new info last eve.?
Posted by: anne | Monday, June 27, 2005 at 09:03 AM
6/27. Tonight in the news, someone speaking from Aruba said that it would have been very difficult for a l7 y.o. boy to dispose of Nataliee's body in such a short time.
Hey guys...REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMEMBER the police took ONE ENTIRE WHOLE AND FAT WEEEK TO ARREST HIM!!! Do you know much evil a criminal can do with ONE WHOLE FAT WEEK?
Personally, I would tell the whole world to BOYCOTT ARUBA....There are OTHER prestina beaches in the Caribbean.
Posted by: p.dagert | Monday, June 27, 2005 at 09:40 PM
IF SOMEONE CAN GET THIS EMAIL TO NATALIE'S MOTHER I THINK SHE CAN HELP. SHE WILL NOT ENTER A CASE WITHOUT BEING ASKED. SHE IS FROM FLORIDA I THINK. HER NAME IS NOREEN RENIER HER EMAIL IS NOREENRENIER.COM. SHE GAVE INFORMATION ON THE LACY PETERSON CASE. IT IS WORTH A TRY. THANKS
Posted by: SHEILA | Monday, July 04, 2005 at 12:45 PM
IF SOMEONE CAN GET THIS EMAIL TO NATALIE'S MOTHER I THINK SHE CAN HELP. SHE WILL NOT ENTER A CASE WITHOUT BEING ASKED. SHE IS FROM FLORIDA I THINK. HER NAME IS NOREEN RENIER HER EMAIL IS NOREENRENIER.COM. SHE GAVE INFORMATION ON THE LACY PETERSON CASE. IT IS WORTH A TRY. THANKS
Posted by: SHEILA | Monday, July 04, 2005 at 12:47 PM
IF SOMEONE CAN GET THIS EMAIL TO NATALIE'S MOTHER I THINK SHE CAN HELP. SHE WILL NOT ENTER A CASE WITHOUT BEING ASKED. SHE IS FROM FLORIDA I THINK. HER NAME IS NOREEN RENIER HER EMAIL IS NOREENRENIER.COM. SHE GAVE INFORMATION ON THE LACY PETERSON CASE. IT IS WORTH A TRY. THANKS
Posted by: SHEILA | Monday, July 04, 2005 at 12:49 PM