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Monday, June 20, 2005

Aruba: Decapitation Story Confirmed

A reliable source on the island of Aruba has confirmed reports of a recent murder / decapitation, and also confirmed reports of another murder currently under investigation in Aruba. A third report regarding a possible new missing person report filed today has not been confirmed at this time.

Additionally, sources close to the Natalee Holloway investigation have indicated to me that there appear to be serious problems developing in establishing a consistent time lime of events surrounding Natalee's disappearance. Problems stem from conflicts among stories by those being questioned, a growing list which now includes  Father of Joran v d Sloot, Paulus v d Sloot.

It's possible that the time line as presented by the elder vd Sloot does not fit with other knowable facts in the case, resulting in his having been brought back for additional questioning.

Additionally, from other contacts who are known to be observing the Natalee Holloway investigation very closely on the ground in Aruba, there is growing concern that some of the lack of clarity in the troubling case could be the result of an attempt to minimize the impact of this tragic case on the tourism industry of Aruba.

While differences do exist between the system of justice in Aruba and a watchful America, many Americans are coming to feel more and more dissatisfied from an apparent lack of accountability to the public by Aruban authorities.

Developing, hope to have more tomorrow.

Update: An initial report suggests the decapitation may have had something to do with drug trafficking as some say the head was actually sent back to Columbia. That is unconfirmed.

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Comments

Thank you Dan,

That is a helpful update. I hope you can keep it up.
Will you be able to tell us anything about the conversation between the Diaro reporter and Fox news following some suspect cars?

In light of the way that this thing has been handled from the begining, I don't think that there is any doubt that the Aruban authorities are in damage control mode. However, that being said, now that the entire world is following this situation very closely, I would tend to think that they are now fully focused on making sure that they have a solid case backed by solid evidence on whomever they have identified as the perpetrators of this crime. Can you imagine how much more damage to their economy would be done if they charged one of the three suspects and for some reason, their case wasnt strong enough to convict? That kind of situation would make "Freedom Fries" look like a joke in comparison to the boycott of that America would unofficially impose. Just my two cents...

Isn't it interesting, and pathetic. After ALL the investigation and days of questioning and "contradictions" reported by the judge --- Now the intense questioning comes back to JVDS father who was the first of the VDS family to be approached the night of Natalee's disappearance?

As quoted from the Montgomery Al Advertiser
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/NEWSV5/storyV5familysearch19w.htm

"Van der Sloot's father, ... said his son was out playing poker when the group first arrived at the house about 1 a.m., ... the group went to a couple of places looking for van der Sloot before returning to the father's house and finding Joran van der Sloot there with one of the two Surinamese brothers....

If only correct interrogation and police work was done at that moment.

Dan,

Thanks for the update!

Before I tell you to get some sleep, I must leave you with a few thoughts (just to further interfere with you sleep..LOL).

Thanks for the confirmation on the decapitated/perhaps mutilated man. I couldn't find a darn bit of info on that situation today. I must ask though, what does this have to do with Natalee? Please share your thoughts on why you think this is related.....

Also, Cyril Wecht was on the Fox special last night too. Any idea why they abruptly cut him off? He had some intelligent answers/ideas concerning Nat. He was in the middle of discussing what probably happened....then he was cut off!

Most people probably don't know who Cyril Wecht is, so that is why this issue probably hasn't come up yet. I thought you may have met him while at FOX or have info on his credentials.

Why was he cut off......any ideas?

Hi Dan,
Thanks for the newest reports and as usual keep up the great work. I have to agree with both what ATL and Akeko say above-obviously it seems that the major investigative snafus occurred in the first few days and hence the need to interview PVDS for 7 hours over the last two days. I would have to say that the Aruba LE are unimaginably incompetent if they are trying to do more coverup now. Perhaps they are trying hard on the inside now but being extremely defensive outside primarily because of "image" issues-not that much is left now.
Anyways do you have any knowledge of whether Steven Croes is gonna be remanded for 8 more days tomorrow or is there a chance that he will be released tomorrow?
I briefly heard at the end of FOX News Big story that the younger kaploe is in prison but that JVDS and the elder Kaploe (Deepak?) are still in the jail being "intensively interrrogated" separately? Any info on this?
And as Akeko asked above, anything on that FOX NEWS report of last night about the El Diario reporter chasing some suspect cars and links to natalee's disappearance? Sounded pretty far fetched but who knows?
Once again hoping for Natalee's safe return.

I didn't put it in the story but yes, Joran and Deepak were questioned intensively today. No word on Croes - that gets determined by a judge. I can't be sure, but this thing may explode this week because the stories are getting further and further apart and suspects saod to be dissembling. AT least one person has used the word liar toward the older v d Sloot, but I can't say that I know how legitimate that is. There is a lot of emotion around this case and Aruban authorities are growing more leary of and angry with American media.

Look for a National Enquireer story this week - no idea of what will be in it. But the guy doing it was playing it very close to the vest.

Why do you say that about the National Enquirer? What do you know? What is this guy doing?

ATL Procrastinator:

"However, that being said, now that the entire world is following this situation very closely"

Entire world? Are you serious?

Just saw a reporter on Fox she was with a Current Affair, she stated she inquired about the beheading and any other recent crimes and the Public Affairs Officer told her he wasn't going to give her any information. She then jokingly said to the guy filling in for Geraldo that maybe she needed to "lawyer up" so she could get some info from the local gov't.

Dan,

Did you post that reply to Matt?

It didn't sound like you. Also, your posts always say from "Dan", not Dan Riehl.

Maybe I am just paranoid...after the troll last night.

Andin Bikker Aruban being interviewed on Fox just said the beheading was a coincidence..

I think there was an attempt at a cover up initially but I don't think the gov realized how much media pressure would be brought on. I am now thinking(or hoping) that they are in a hurry to solve this case. Not solving this case would really hurt their economy...I do believe they were going to try to cover it up in the beginning..hence, the slow developments up front..it sure seems like the pace is picking up with their tourist dollars on the line!

I heard one reporter on Fox say that the head decapitation sounded like a cult thing..she even named the cult. Sounded almost like a common occurence. So does this mean Aruba doesn't have crime other than cult deaths? Does this not count as "crime" to them? Maybe they only consider tourist crimes as the kind of crimes to report. I do agree though that the Aruba Tourist Industy via the government is trying to keep a pretty picture for their country.

does anyone else think that possibly the decapitation thing is related to Natalee in the sense that if Natalee was kidnapped or shipped off to Columbia that maybe someone who knew something was delt with?

Beware All,

There may be a troll amongst us posting as Dan.

There are a few posts supposedly coming from Dan, that don't sound like Dan.

Dan....wake up.....are your recent posts legit? Especially the one about the National Inquirer?


Hi Dan,
Thanks for the reply; Yes if the Current Affair is there, can the National Enquirer be far behind? I bet the NE will be able to extract some good info like they always seem to do in high profile cases. I wonder what angle that story will cover. I have to agree with you-this story is about to break wide open-so many pressure points-thanks again-Matt

I wondered that same thought Mark..

Don't pay attention to trolls, no matter how intelligent they seem.

They thrive on contact. They wither & die without it....

Mr. VanDerSloot:
9 hours of "questioning" over 2 days - bringing in the wife on 2nd day -- sounds like a lot of "contradictions" that need to be explained??

And then "no comment" from supposed "concerned parents" -- but rather a run-for-your-life-sprint-to-the-car to quickly get out the keys and speed away!! Avoid reporters? Protect the investigation?

Come on!!

Reporter said he, "came in voluntarily" today and was then "released" 5 hours later. After 4 hours last night? That's a lot for someone who was not even involved with Natalee that tragic night!!!

That "judge of instruction" questioning him must have had to review the entire VDS life history. Or was it that much for the history of the last 20 days??

AkekoaHoAlethia.......

I hope you don't mind, but, what does your user name mean?????????

Aside from that.....what you just described/questioned appears to be typical Aruba law.

The moral of the story is....check out the laws in any country you plan to visit. Aruba should not be at the top of your list of places to see. Unfortunately, we are finding this out the hard way......

Christa

The name is from the language Koine' Greek, used in the New Testament:
"I have found the truth"

It is similar to the word on the California seal "eureka" "I found it" - referring to the gold rush.

I agree about the laws. i've been to the Hague, Rotterdam, Paris, London, Mexico and lived in PR.

Thanks for asking..

Okay - listen up! heh. This is Dan Riehl - because of some confusion, I am now labeling my comments as Dan Riehl - anyone can copy it, but that's the new convention. Oh, and blogs I link are usually always friends of differing stripes and flavors - Beth, Cranky, Eric, etc - all have been around for a long time and we're friends - it WAS a joke.

I wasn't responding to Matt by mentioning the National Enquirer - they have been on the ground there since the start and, while I don't know the reporter, another journalist I do know in Aruba told me what I relayed to you in that comment. Just putting it out there for background. If my comments sound weird, it's because I am rushing around like crazy tonight, partly because a few potentially very significant new contacts have come my way that could lead to some good new work on the Natalee Holloway case. That's all. As always, thanks for the support. : ) - Dan

To All....

Unless Dan just started smoking crack tonight, that recent post wasn't from him.

Ignore it. Do not comment.

Dan, if that is you, which I doubt, send me an email to confirm your identity.

Update: An initial report suggests the decapitation may have had something to do with drug trafficking as some say the head was actually sent back to Columbia. That is unconfirmed.

This is absolutely not true!!
The head was not shipped to Colombia, as police found it still barely attached to the body...
But there are strong suspicions that it is drug related...

Thanks Christa (nice name:)

I appreciate your heads up on the last.

AkekoaHoAlethia,

Thanks for the background on your name!
Is it a coincidence that it means "finding the truth" for this situation, or did you purposely choose that name for this site & circumstances?

I truly hope that we find the truth....

LOL Dan
Now you got somebody questioning your identity haha!
Anyways thanks for the updates again-im hoping for something big and hopeful tomorrow-

Coincidence,

I've had it for some years. Referring to my past life being lived as we are reading about some here.

So does this mean yet another sleepless night for you?? Again, thank you for your tireless efforts and dedication. So many of us really appreciate you.

Sunny

I should have said that was before I found it.
Now I continue to search for truth in all things. As in this NH case. I look for truth. Dan seems to be doing the same.

AkekoaHoalethia....

A past life similar to what has happened to Natalee?

I think we are handling the troll situation very well tonight. Dan will be happy. Bless his soul, the guy MAY be getting some sleep. I hope so....

I know the drives to ignore dangers, warnings and want to just have fun. I've seen the predators, ran from them myself. I have a daughter, Natalie, who got involved at 18 with similar problems. Fortunately she is still around somewhere today. But her tradgedies have kept her from "growing up" and she is stuck at "using men" for what she can.

But I do not think NH is quite like this. It just touches my more because of the similarities.

Christa - Please check your e mail if you haven't. If you have and are still referring to me as a troll - that's a bigger problem. If anyone has any doubts about who is commenting you know how to reach me. Thanks.

Moving over to the Holloway General Discussion Forum on this site..........

I will be trolling there too.

Is there still one person missing in Aruba (besides Natalee) in addition to the man decapitated? Thought I heard that last night, but didn't know if there was followup.

I heard it somewhere but can't recall any specifics.

Hasibokos.com has info on 1 murdered and 1 missing (besides Natalee). Dan's update indicated 2 murders and 1 possibly missing. Will be interesting to find out who and what were the circumstances.

Carlos & Cahrlies has a statement on their forum about NH and their reaction to it.

http://carlosncharliesaruba.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2

on this website that had the story of the beheading, It says it was a "PARTIAL" beheading, leaving me to think of "columbian necktie"

http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005
About the beheading....got this link from Scared Monkeys site....

DAN, THANKS FOR THE UPDATE...
I think we should boycott ARUBA anyway on the grounds of ignorance! This has been ARUBA GATE in the making from the very start. The government needs to read the book "HOW TO RUN A COUNTRY FOR DUMMIES" I believe the whole government is corrupt. I think they are all tied into a drug ring. I do not think we can believe anything these now ARROGANT investigators say anymore. This has all become one big cover up. I would not be surprised if the father of Joran is a middle man in a big drug operation. He has contacts. I do not think for one minute that the decapitated man was ,(is ) a coincident. PLEEZZZZ. Spare me.
The father probably had this guy get rid of Natalee to cover up whatever his son had done to her. Then he had him killed so he would not talk. Maybe he did not trust him with money floating around for information leading to Natalee's whereabouts and got rid of him before he could talk. Natallee could very well be in a hospital on another island.
After what one of the guests on Fox said last night about Natalee's parents in such an ugly manner (referring to the polygraph tests need to be given to her family) I have no respect for the government in ARUBA at all now. They are all a bunch of criminals as far as I am concerned. They too are scum and slime as Natalee's stepfather said of Joran's father. I am sure that he said that out of anger for Natalee but I see him being "right on". I think the parents now have had enough.
This needs to end now...The real truth needs to come out.
Bill Gates needs to buy the whole island and turn it into a Microsoft theme park. !!!!
A big house cleaning needs to happen and happen quick.
We need answers and we need them now. We must not stop til we find out the truth.

***The beheading was not true!***

Sorry, I think we should now focus on the 11 year old missing boy in Utah, don't you think?

And just one question; during the O'Reilly show some teenagers that went on the trip, confirmed that they lied that the FBI told them not to talk, but it was Holloway's family who requested that. Do we know any reason for that decision?

The murder was of because of vengeance (no beheading though, the guy worked at the prison as a guard) and the missing guy, came back home.

Regarding the boycott against Aruba, Officials estimate an increase in Tourism during June and July (low season) and hotels are reported 85% occupancy up to now.

European tourism also sees an increase due to constant devaluation of the dollar compared to the Euro.

Betsy,
Are you an American in America?

Been reading around, is this true?


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Current Missing Children in Alabama

Name Race M/F Height Weight Age Last Seen

Abigail Louise White Female 2' 00" 29 5 Year(s)7/29/2001

Amanda Bailey White Female 5' 06" 145 17 Year(s)
1/20/2005

Amber Branham White Female 5' 10" 165 16yrs(s)
7/7/2004

Tara Colson White Female 5' 08" 170 16 Year(s)
3/3/2005

Bobbie Jo Glaze White Female 5' 09" 145 17 Year(s)
10/6/2004

Venus Grier White Female 5' 08" 240 17 Year(s)
3/9/2005

Rachel Lynn Harris White Female 5' 07" 130 14 Year
5/28/2005

Julian Hernandez White Male 3' 00" 43 8 Year(s)
8/28/2002

Jessica Linderman White Female 5' 02" 146 15 Year
4/7/2005

Vernita Mcghee Black Female 5' 04" 110 13 Year(s)
6/6/2005

Kasie Lynn Mcguire White Female 4' 4" 60 8 Year(s)
11/22/2002

Sarah K Razavi Asian Female 5' 01" 93 15 Year(s)
6/11/2005

Nicole Rockwell White Female 5' 03" 145 16 Year(s)
2/18/2005

Heaven Lashae Ross White Female 4' 06" 100 13 Year
8/19/2003

Cameron Justin Smith White Male 3' 07" 30 4 Year
10/30/2001

Joshua Allen Smith White Male 5' 06" 145 17 Year
6/11/2005

Darlene Tolbert White Female 3' 00" 35 13 Year(s)
8/18/1997

Fred Wright Black Male 5' 07" 130 20 Year(s)
12/6/1998

Mary Jordan Wright White Female 5' 02" 110 15 Year
5/10/2005

Can someone update me regarding these cases?

So, there wasn't a beheading, but a murder of a prison guard? What about the drive-by? Was that just rumor too?

2 Set the Record straight. >>>>>GET A LIFE...OK? It is true. What is your problem.
AND....If you do not think the people in Utah are not doing their job then Get a ticket and go to Utah and help them. ok..
and..while you are at it go to Alabama and volunteer your help with that too.
YEAH....ALL LETS BOYCOTT ARUBA until they come clean!!!!

What I could interpret from the different newspapers (my papiamento is not that perfect), it was two guys E.M.(American 19 yo) and N.P.(Aruban 23 yo) that were drunk and when they came to the bar, they started shooting at a parked car and entered the bar like nothing happened. They were arrested moments later.

On that island, if you are caught with a fire-arm or even part of it, you will be sentenced to jail time.

Dear Mary,

Do you have answers to my questions, that's all.

I know they are doing a great job and saw the search, just need update and set some priorities.

Dan, I think you should put your sources for these confirmations, or more information.

As far as a cover up NOW, I don't know how they could think about that. The best resolution they could hope for now would be to catch and convict whoever is reponsible, (or bring Natalee back alive). There's nothing else that is going to help Aruba's tourist industry. If this isn't resolved successfully then that will only hurt tourism and they know that.

About the "Fox reporter" that said that the decapitation was linked to a "cult" called Santeria. She was actually supposed to be an FBI profiler although you'd have thought she could afford a better wig if that was true. I don't know everything about Santeria, but I did once interview a practioner for a magazine. I could be wrong but I doubted her theory that the killing was connected to a "cult called Santeria." She looked like an adrenaline junkie. Again, I not expert but I regarded this with skepticism.

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