A Good Read

Someone I introduced to some readers before asks a simple question Was war worth it?  And don't tell me, go tell her.

Comments

[philo]

RE: SUICIDE ATTEMPT BY JORAN VDS

Watched a video in which it was reported that JvdS attempted suicide. Earlier his mother had delivered 2 blue towels to him. Check out CBS news.

[TheTruth]

VERY good read. Thanks, Dan!

[Jim]

I would go tell "her" if it were not for the fact you have to be a registered member to "...tell her” I don't need to be on another spam roll just to voice my opinion.

As to the question of whether or not "it was worth it?"... the ends NEVER justify the means!

1. If you say it was to spread Democracy, than why have we not invaded China?

2. If you say it was to liberate those being tortured & suppressed by an oppressive regime, than why did we not go to Rwanda or any other third world country currently run by DICKtators?

3. If you say it was to round up WMD's, than why have we not invaded Iran or North Korea? And why did we think Iraq had them in the first place... oh yea, we sold them!

The real REASON that was given was WMDS, the talk of Democracy and other "noble reasons" came after and should be known as they are, EXCUSES, which in the real world... don't fly!

At any rate, if you subscribe to any of the excuses above, then you are what CHRIST (GW's faith) says is the worst of all people, a HYPOCRITE!

Just open your minds and question this: why do we have a trade embargo on Cuba? In case you are not knowledgeable, it is because Cuba is Communist... now ask yourself, why did we INCREASE trade with COMMUNIST China?

[Cassandra]

Jim, in the first place if you check the facts, France, China, and Russia (the three nations who didn't want the UN to help us, if you'll recall) were the three largest arms sellers to Iraq.

We were so far down the list it isn't funny.

1. China is not threatening us. China hasn't violated 12 years of UN sanctions, banned weapons inspectors, nor invaded both her neighbors in the past 10 years.

2. Rwanda is not threatening us either, nor paying bounties to and training and harboring terrorists like the man who planned the 1st WTC bombing in '93. Oh... you didn't know he fled to Iraq on an Iraqi passport??? Hmmm.

3. See 1 and 2. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

Do *you* always do everything for one reason and one only? Of course not. When you're weighing your options, you look at ALL the reasons and the more there are in favor, the more likely it is you will act.

Sorry about the comment registration - my spam script isn't working and I haven't had time to fix it :)

Cheers.

[Jim]

1."We were so far down the list it isn't funny."
...But WE WERE ON the list!

2."...invaded both her neighbors in the past 10 years."
When in the last TEN years did Iraq invade somebody? Your history is as fuzzy as your logic. It has been a decade and a half since Kuwait.

3."...China hasn't violated 12 years of UN sanctions..."
No? Were have you been then? Read on:
U.N. Commission to examine China's human rights violations
http://www.democracy.org.hk/EN/mar1999/mainlnd_25.htm AND
China for its human rights violations throughout 2003 (10,000 cases of the death penalty that result in immediate execution IN ONE YEAR... hmmm)
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=505

and have you forgotten Tiananmen Square in '89?

4."Rwanda...harboring terrorists like the man..." (Osama)
Once again you’re flawed...
Army for the Liberation of Rwanda; The FAR was the army of the Rwandan Hutu regime that carried out the genocide of 500,000 or more Tutsis and regime opponents in 1994 (11 years ago)
http://www.terrorism.net/group38.html

5."3. See 1 and 2. Lather. Rinse. Repeat."
I assume your odd comment is because you can't explain why we haven't invaded Iran or N.Korea based on the logic we used to invade Iraq?!

6."Do *you* always do everything for one reason and one only?"
Of course not! But does that mean you FIX evidence to support your theory? NO! Do you stand before the ENTIRE world and show FAKE photographs and claim, "Here, you see 15 munitions bunkers in yellow and red outlines. The four that are in red squares represent active chemical munitions bunkers."

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell Addresses the U.N. Security Council
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030205-1.html
TRANSCRIPT AND VIDEO

Note he said ACTIVE... yet sadly as history now proved... not even a bunker, let alone anything to do with chemicals.

7. Just for the record, I am glad we went. I served 6 years in the US Infantry and I support the troops. What I do not like however, is being DECEIVED by LIES... and I certainly do NOT like EXCUSES! I also am a strong Christian as GW claims, and I know that no matter how you slice it... there is NO GODLY or RIGHTEOUS aspect to this campaign.

Think of it this way... your buy a car because the salesman says it has great gas mileage. You drive for awhile and come to find out it gets horrible gas mileage. You take it back to the salesman and he blows you off and says, so I lied, at least it has clean air emissions and a neat sunroof. Magnify that by the X factor of innocent body counts and you can only begin to grasp the true levity of this war!

8. Your failed attempt at derogatory humor such as "Lather. Rinse. Repeat” was not appreciated. Try not to argue (debate) your position without lowering yourself to pre-pubescent "Take that" and "Gotcha" type comments... it only makes you seem incompetent.

[r abroy]

If she was killed then the body was dumped in the most unexpected of places.For instance in a yard of the murderer. I know of a case where a body of a victim was found burried in a cellar.

[Idoghor Famous]

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