Sarah Palin Does It Again With Civil War Reference
This is classic Sarah Palin. I'd wager people would be surprised to learn that progressive Obama czarist Cass Suntein agrees with her on this growing flap because Palin had the audacity to invoke the Civil War in reference to Derrick Bell. I reached the same conclusion myself studying Bell. Cass Sunstein in The New Yorker, May 3 2004.
If Brown was destined to fail, as Bell believes, what would he have had the Supreme Court do in 1954? Surprisingly, he argues that the Court should have reaffirmed Plessy and permitted segregation to continue—but should have insisted that separate must be genuinely equal. Recognizing that “predictable outraged resistance could undermine and eventually negate even the most committed judicial enforcement efforts,” the Court should have required full enforcement of Plessy with a decree that would have equalized educational opportunity immediately, with federal district judges monitoring the process to insure compliance.
The Atlantic's David Graham should have done his homework before weighing in. He's shown reading in his icon. It must have been the comics. As Sunstein correctly pointed out, Bell's only path forward given his racialist view is "separate but equal." And where does that construct find it's origins? In the Civil War, of course. "Separate but Equal: Origins.
The American Civil War (1861–1865) policy yielded the cessation of legal slavery in the U.S., however not the intent of a different class of citizen. Before the end of the war, the Morrill Land-Grant Colleges Act (Morrill Act of 1862) was passed to provide for federal funding of higher education by each state with the details left to the state legislatures. Following the war, the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution guaranteed equal protection under the law to all citizens, and Congress established the Freedmen's Bureau to assist the integration of former slaves into Southern society. After the end of Reconstruction in 1877, former slave-holding states enacted various laws to undermine the equal treatment of African Americans, although the 14th Amendment as well as federal Civil Rights laws enacted during reconstruction were meant to guarantee it. However Southern states contended that the requirement of equality could be met in a manner that kept the races separate.
Decades ago, I subscribed to The Atlantic for the quality of the writing. It may remain fair; however, it's a shame to see the thinking there devolve into such simple-mindedness. As I wrote at top, this is classic Sarah Palin. She's not only insightful and correct, she tosses the self-professed elites a bone they can't resist embarrassing themselves over by taking it up, however blind they may be.
Palin: The First Black President Wants to Revert to Pre-Civil War Society
In her view, the very act of acknowledging or talking about race's role in U.S. history makes one a racist.
Nonsense. What she's speaking to is the racial divisiveness of Derrick Bell's thinking and we're now seeing it in Obama, as well. Every honest person who by now knows anything much about Derrick Bell's Critical Race Theory knew Derrick Bell was the racist here. They didn't require Palin to say it, even if she had, which she didn't.
If Graham doesn't believe me about Bell – and Sunstein isn't enough to convince him - ask John Podhoretz at Commentary.
Derrick Bell in 1994: ‘Jewish Neoconservative Racists’
Bell, in the same interview: “Blacks will simply never gain full equality in this country.”
While focusing more on Bell's antisemitism, they somewhat address his racialism, too. Racialism is little more than a progressive intellectual's cover for their inherently racist views. Fine, they aren't racist -just as with Obama, they are racialist, divisive and, more importantly, wrong. Sound better now? As for Palin invoking the Civil War era, in context, it's basically the same conclusion I arrived at after looking into Derrick Bell myself over the past few weeks. When all Bell has left is separate but equal, as Cass Sunstein pointed out above, it's the Civil War era that foremost comes to mind.
Chalk another one up for Sarah Palin. What a rogue!
It is just like when all the morons on the lefts (and sadly a few idiots on the right) jumped on her “Party like it’s 1773!” line as though she screwed up a reference to our Declaration of Independence in 1776. She was mocked for days before we were able to get through the noise to explain she was referring to the Boston Tea Party which happened in 1773.
That’s my girl!
Surely we missed out on having one of the greatest conservative leaders of our time as President. I have to wonder if she has regrets.
Dr. Bell’s work stood for the proposition that the races not only are not equal under law, they COULD never be equal under law.
That there are no objective truths…no reality. There are “constructs”, and these are somehow connected to race.
Again, everything about this spits in the face of the Enlightenment.
Whenever you see the word “critical” in connection with a line of thinking, you are seeing the off-spring of the Frankfurt School…a group of German Communists who fled to America before the war, and established a doctrine for the subversion and overthrow of the Constitution.
“Critical race theory”, like “Critical history”, or any other “Critical” discipline are designed from their inception to promote radical reaction to the American Revolution.
Hasn’t Palin damaged the GOP enough. But by all means keep bringing her out.
It is not too late to nominate her for POTUS. Or at the least VP. It worked out so well last time.
November is gonna be a bloodbath. Obamy is gonna trounce Mittens even worse than he did McCain.
And it is too damn funny that this “election that the future of our country rests on” the best you can come up with is an east coast elitist pro choice pro socialized medicine pro amnesty RINO who lost to McCain.
Good one guys. I am really having fun with this one.
“Hasn’t Palin damaged the GOP enough.”
No. Not nearly enough for Conservatives. We aim to misbehave…a LOT more.
jharp = TWOT
Bell was not favoring Separate but Equal. He was favoring Separate but Unequal. He believed that the white man did not deserve to be equal.
“No. Not nearly enough for Conservatives. We aim to misbehave…a LOT more.”
Posted by: Rags
Go for it buddy. By all means. And I see you have Joe the Plumber running in Ohio. Hilarious.
Maybe he could be Mittens “game changer” this fall? Have we ever had a Plumber running as VP? The ignorant rednecks called the conservative base would love it.
jharp = TWOT
Wittgenstein said that if a lion were able to speak, we would not understand it.
Ragspierre = Joe The Plumber supporter
Could you folks possibly pick two bigger ignoramuses to rally behind than Plain and Joe?
Plain and Joe…??
You mean “Plain Jane” Warren (CANDIDATE, Massive-two-spits) and Sherf Joe Biden, right?
You’d be right about them.
TWOT.
The GOP urgently needs sudden and relentless reform. Sarah leads, as usual. And the cowards in the permanent political class don’t want to have a conversation about black racism.
100% Gary
“The GOP urgently needs sudden and relentless reform.”
No doubt about it. Problem is most of you morons think you need to move further to the right.
You are no less than 1 election from hitting bottom. I do agree than Palin can get you there faster than anyone. Newt and Santorum are close seconds.
And then there is this HUGE problem.
Rick Santorum last night. And I quote.
“What I’d like to talk about, which is offensive, which is Governor Romney out there for almost a year telling the people in the Republican primary that he never advocated that Romneycare would be a federal model.
That he never advocated for an individual mandate, that government at the federal level require people to buy insurance, and now we find on several occasions, just in the past week, article after article, interview after interview, where Governor Romney did just that in 2009. Now, to me, that’s offensive.
For the — for someone to go out and deliberately misrepresent his record, what he did at a very critical time, when people were making decisions on the issue of health care, for him to go out and recommend that to President Obama and then tell the voters on debate after debate that he never did any such thing, not only is his policy bad, not only did he recommend the wrong policy for the country, that he didn’t tell the truth about what he did.
And to me, that’s something that should be a much bigger issue on, supposedly, the leading candidate in this race, on the most important issue that we’re going to be dealing with in this election.”
Ouch! Do you gentlemen really think this is going to go away? This is coming your own team!
Didn’t Romney get clobbered by McCain? And didn’t Mccain and Palin get clobbered by the sitting President…America rejected this lineup 4 years ago.
Yet another example on how they seem to following the Lillian Hellman rule.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/09/palin-counsel-game-change-source-over-his-head
Dan, she meant to say “Civil Rights”, not “Civil War”. I believe it was another of those Shakespeare moments.
Newsflash folks: Palin ain’t running. You’re going to have to do without her this elections season.
Pre-Civil War…Blacks kept on the democrat plantation…Civil War…Republicans free blacks from the democrat plantation…Post Civil War…democrats form KKK to keep blacks from voting republican…democrats fail to pass civil rights bill…takes republicans to pass the civil rights bill…Today…Blacks back on the democrat plantation…Tomorrow…We start all over again…
The race baiters, like Derrick Bell, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, Cass Sunstein, Louis Farrakhan et al need this strife to keep the dollars pouring into their pockets. Without the money flowing in, these people would be sitting on some front stoop in the projects smoking weed and drinking cheap wine and crying woe is me when their welfare check runs out. I don’t see any of them donating any of their ill gotten gains to help their brothers and sisters make a better life for themselves. Nope, it is all about them and how many lies they can spread about conservative Whitey keeping them down. These people can quibble all they want to, but that does not change the fact, that race relations have gotten far worse since Obama was inaugurated three+ years ago.
All this talk and print stuff about the whites being the only ones guilty of having slaves is a one sided load of crap. There were affluent and free blacks in the South and North that had slaves, but the white self-loathing liberals have the erroneous mindset that all blacks were slaves. Who is that still continues to hold and sell slaves after it has been outlawed around the world? The Muslins of course. There is no worldwide hue and cry about that and there never will be.
Who was it that shoved the Cherokees off the land their ancestors owned forever? Andrew Jackson and his southern plantation buddies in Congress. Guess what party they all belonged to? If the guess was DemocRATs, move to the head of the line. Now they have the audacity to tell us how they furthered race relations in this country in the last 200+ years. Again a load of crap. The Dems have done everything that they could to hamper any attempt to make things a lot easier on the minorities.
Let’s examine the wisdom of a black man wanting to take the US back to pre Civil War days…ahh, let’s not and just be glad for dan, his readers and Miss Sarah existence. Humor is so rare these days.
Too often to be merely luck, Palin is brilliant dealing with the media.
Death Panel. Media says she is wrong.
But she is right. SP: 1 – LSM: 0
Party like it’s 1773. Media says she is wrong.
But she is right. SP: 2 – LSM: 0
Blood libel. Media says she is wrong.
But she is right. SP: 3 – LSM: 0
Revere warned British too. Media says she is wrong.
But she is right. SP: 4 – LSM: 0
Etc.,
Etc.
I know I’m missing many, and by now it’s closer to SP:20 – LSM: 0.
SP2012
“ahh, let’s not…”
Because why should liberals look at the facts instead of just screeching insults like clueless assholes?
This is pathetic. It is this kind of “factual” thinking that cause the Repubs to lose in 2008 in historical fashion. your fallacy in logic is beyond pathetic and rises to pathlogical. Please read anything by Derrick Bell and remember that CRT is one of many modern legal theories that tries to explain human behavior, criminal law intent and reality, and to engage law students in more than dry and outdated legal books.
Sarah Palin is Guided by Voices and she is BRILLIANT AND UNERRING IN HER RESPONSES TO THE LEFT-LEANING, LOW-INFORMATION LEMMINGS of the MSM. I love Sarah Palin!
RAGSPIERRE SAID: “Whenever you see the word “critical” in connection with a line of thinking, you are seeing the off-spring of the Frankfurt School…a group of German Communists who fled to America before the war, and established a doctrine for the subversion and overthrow of the Constitution.
“Critical race theory”, like “Critical history”, or any other “Critical” discipline are designed from their inception to promote radical reaction to the American Revolution.” Posted by: Ragspierre | Saturday, March 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Ragspierre, excellent point. And we see the word “critical” in so many of our universities and law schools.
When a person is naive and first encounters this, it is hard to understand at first that it’s a PLOY.
It’s not sincere. It’s a PLOT. It’s a snare, a trap, for the unwary young American, who thinks we all agree that humans are meant to be born free.
Beware, young American! LEARN TO THINK FOR YOURSELF.
Bill Whittle has a truly brilliant talk about this, “OUR PROGRESSIVE NIGHTMARE.”
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/video-bill-whittles-talk-in-newport.html Bill Whittle – “OUR PROGRESSIVE NIGHTMARE” – Newport Beach, California
If you want to understand why our institutions seem to always, always, always, always, trend LEFT — and what we can do about it — this talk by Bill Whittle is an excellent place to start.
The more you know, the harder you are for the “idealistic” Statists to control.
Get Informed. THINK FOR YOURSELF.
“They’re trying to turn us into beggars, because beggars are easier to please.” lyrics – quoted by InstaPundit
I am happy you love Governer Palin. If you think she can really do the job of President, you truly need to examine your thought process.
She was and is out of her league and certainly not quallified to lead this country. But, how could she be worse than former Vice Presiedent Chaney, so let her run and see if the voters are irresponsible enough to elect her.
You gotta be kidding me?
Your points may have some logic to them, but you can bet dollars to donuts (as the folksy folks say) that Palin didn’t have clue one what she was talking about or what Bell ever wrote or said. Rebecca Mansour or whoever Palin’s newest writing lackey is probably wrote the words and she parroted them off of a Teleprompter.
All that aside, what’s so outrageous about a black man having serious doubts that a dominant white culture will truly allow full equality, especially within his lifetime?
I’m a white woman and even I’m getting a little sick of white men telling minorities how they should feel and think about the treatment their ancestors experienced under white rule.
“…what’s so outrageous about a black man having serious doubts that a dominant white culture will truly allow full equality, especially within his lifetime?”
Well, if Dr. Bell said he “had doubts”, that would be one thing.
It isn’t what he said. What he said was not too different than Nazi racial dogma. What he said was that black people and white people simply could not comprehend each others “constructs”.
He said a lot of other pure crap, too.
For instance, “interest convergence”, where he maintains that “whites will promote racial advances for blacks only when they also promote white self-interest.”
Ever hear of the civil war?
“I’m getting a little sick of white men telling minorities how they should feel and think about the treatment their ancestors experienced under white rule.”
Name a few. We’ll wait…
still waiting…
Darklady, I am also a woman and I am tired of the liberal left telling me what I should do with my body and how I should think or act just because I am a woman. For example, if I do not vote a straight Democratic ticket that somehow makes me non-female because of course, only Democrats are for women. Meanwhile all they do when a woman thinks differently than them is to malign her or call her stupid and all those vile words that Maher seems to like. It is not just Sarah Palin but every woman that does not agree wholeheartedly with their views.
Great back & forth here – and, IMHO, Palin still comes out on top, despite all the wishful thinking of the libturds – esp. the part about her merely “parroting the words of some wordsmith from a teleprompter” – NOT!! You must have her mixed up with that dude in the WH…
Gosh. An intellectual spin on Palin’s nonsensical comment.
How about just admitting that people we like say dumb things sometimes? That was indefensible, at face value or deconstructed.
I don’t like abusing invitations to comment by being impolite, but this defence does make you seem like an out of touch academic arguing that green is pink, all in the name of academic stimulation.