Ron Paul’s Telling Speech At The John Birch Society’s 50th Anniversary
This is actually rather helpful in coming to understand Ron Paul's politics. It's claimed that the John Birch Society re-entered the political mainstream in 2010. Many people dispute that and objected, some also boycotted CPAC due to JBS's 2010 participation.
The JBS was a co-sponsor of the 2010 Conservative Political Action Conference, ending its decades-long exile from the mainstream conservative movement.
However, Paul's speech isn't a welcome back. Their anniversary would have been 2 years before in 2008. Paul repeatedly thanks them for their strong support over many years in his speech. In addition to that, at about 20 minutes in, he mentions calling Larry McDonald for advice when he was first thinking of entering politics. McDonald was a very notable Southern Democrat, JBS' second president and also notable for opposing school integration. He told Paul to run in whichever party he thought he could win in, as it didn't matter. The JBS connection makes it clear what a throw-back Paul is, and explains the support he enjoys from neo-confederates.
McDonald also opposed the establishment of Martin Luther King, Jr. Day,[3][19] saying the FBI had evidence that King "was associated with and being manipulated by communists and secret communist agents."[20] It was reported that McDonald had "about 200" guns stockpiled in his official district residence.
That settles it, I'm convinced Paul is simply a victim of fluoridation. Full speech at link via the John Birch Society.
The society opposed water fluoridation, which it called "mass medicine"[32] and saw as a communist plot to poison Americans.
So Paul gets thrashed with a Birch switch.
And it’s self-inflicted.
I really can’t find any joy in this.
So, the self-basting turkey is getting more coverage.
All to the good. The more you know Paul, in my experience, the less there is to like.
well, sure beats the racists already in office…
How did Byrd win so many re-elections?
http://www.bizzyblog.com/wp-images/NERIscenarioHomePageNov11.png
Why it is the math, stupid…
When I was 21, I considered myself a liberal Democrat. A couple of Birchers at work persuaded me to change direction. I became a conservative and have remained one for over 40 years. The Birchers were opposed to our membership in the United Nations, then considered an extreme position, but now a rather mainstream one for conservatives. It appears the Birchers were ahead of their time.
Dan, you are using liberal/left arguments to oppose Ron Paul, and that is not a good strategy. There are legitimate and compelling reasons to oppose him: (1) his foreign policy would be a form of national suicide, and (2) his lack of support for Israel would encourage Arab aggression against our ally; (3) his associations and support from neo-Nazis like Stormfront and raging nutcases like Alex Jones would mean another four years of Obama. Ron Paul’s nomination would spell the defeat of the Republican Party and would be disastrous for conservatives.
Riehl, Have you or will you to call for a boycott of CPAC dues to the presence of the JBS??
If not, you’re just a hack trying to go after Dr Paul!
Cato, that was a wonderful example of logical disjunction.
And yet Ron Paul supported MLK day a s afederal holiday. Pretty racist of him eh?
I’d be more impressed if there were something here from the speech. Instead this just seems a guilt by association bit. Not going to condemn anyone for posessing weapons, in any quantity and while JBS isn’t mainstream and should not be, without some major adjustments such that they really wouldn’t be JBS anymore, still not a good reason to condemn any given speaker at one of their events.
“Pretty racist of him eh?”
Say instead, “Pretty opportunistic of him, eh?”
Very like running as a “Republican” when he is nothing of the sort.
Or pretending to be “Reagan Conservative” when he is nothing of the sort.
Or… (I could go on.)
I call him an “Opti-con”, or Optional Conservative…like his position when running for office.
actually I saw articles and videos a while back -unrelated to JBS or Ron that confirmed MLK was being either voluntarily or involuntarily a vehicle for the promulgation of neo marxist ideologies and ideas.
“The economy will win the presidency for Republicans in 2012. Republicans should talk about nothing else, and should avoid troll questions by any reporter who tries to distract them. It’s desperation time.”
–Don Surber
Indeed.
Obama made it worse. Whatever it is.
“It’s claimed that the John Birch Society re-entered the political mainstream in 2010. Many people dispute that and objected, some also boycotted CPAC due to JBS’s 2010 participation.”
No they didn’t. And IT didn’t. Try the 2008 general election (See, Palin, Sarah). In 2009 the JBS was rebranded by the Kochs and Dick Armey as the “Tea Party.” Democrats, independents, progressives, and other sentient adults pointed this out in real time as it was happening. Republicans said NOTHING because they bankrolled and astroturfed a faux “movement” based 100% on the JBS, which is really just the GOP base (same as it always has been). They did so because they thought it would be politically advantageous. And they were right, in large part, because the librul media gobbled it all up as predicted.
The GOP is now scared sh*tless because Ron Paul IS the JBC and IS the “Tea Party.” For decades the GOP has played footsie with Paul-types, only to the extent that it was politically safe. The GOP wanted the racist nutters as voters, but didn’t want to take them to the big dance. And to be fair, Paul-types played along. They enjoyed the winks and nods in their direction. But now the nutters who LOVE Ron Paul comprise a substantial plurality of the wingnut base, and they hold sway in the primary election context. Which they will show in Iowa.
Paul probably won’t beat out Mittens, but he and his lunatic fringe sure will be on tv a lot for several months. The RNC Central Committee is already working on that. Orders have already gone out, and they have been received. But he might even raise enough cheddar to mount a 3d party campaign.
Madness, thy name is UAssMORON.
Really, you old crone, get some meds for Christmas.
“Obama made it worse. Whatever it is.”
A perfect encapsulation of wingnuttery, expressed so clearly by the Clownselor.
A perfect encapsulation of the public’s perceptions, expressed so clearly in the polls and the markets.
Moron.
Poisoning the well. Guilt by association. Such ad hominims and other logical fallacies are all the establishment defenders can muster against the man. Not one shred of witness testimony or other actual evidence to suggest Dr. Paul’s behavior has ever veered from the decent, honorable, and generous path all available biographical sources report about him. His history of behavior is key in determining his beliefs and character, and it is one dominated by acts of integrity and virtue.
“…it is one dominated by acts of integrity and virtue.”
What bullsh!t.
St. Paul, patron saint of double talk and pretensions.
Personally, I like it straight from the horse’s (ass) mouth….
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2011/12/22/about-those-racist-ron-paul-newsletters-that-he-didnt-read-and-completely-disavowed/
There is SOOOOOO much video of this fruitcake…NOBODY has to take it from any other source.
I don’t care HOW it comes down, Ron Paul will NEVER be the person I vote for in 2012.
I have NOTHING kind to say regarding Ron Paul, I detest his very being and I have NO respect, I mean NONE, for him and his supporters. The reasons are manifold, but the biggest reason for me; according to many on-line sources, Ron Paul IS a racist.
Pics and links: http://texasfred.net/archives/13285
I know that I have some serious racial prejudices, but unlike Ron Paul, I don’t deny mine, I simply try to keep them in check, MOST of the time…
Don’t worry Dan, Rush has the solution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW5fMHphdTQ&feature=player_embedded
Now, lets talk about the real one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUJC2F-65TE
Hey, it looks like W. has just endorsed Romney. Deep down inside that makes the way-more-collectivist(TM)-than-he-wants-to-admit Ragspierre very, very happy. I can’t stand how moderates, when it’s time to put money where their mouths are, pussy out in the end.
Some people need to get their facts straight before posting comments… George HW Bush “unofficially” endorses Romney
who cares who a prog. endorses.
This is a great article, and a great topic to explore. Thanks for sharing.
We care who progs endorse to the extent it unmasks a prog in conservative clothing. So thanks Bush 41 for again showing Mittenz true colors. Thanks to Dan for continuing to expose the Paulian charlatan and doing the job that US “journalists” have refused to do.
FBI FILES ON BIRCH SOCIETY AND ITS ASSERTIONS:
This 157-page report explains why J. Edgar Hoover and senior FBI officials within the Bureau’s Domestic Intelligence Division concluded in FBI memos that the JBS was “extremist”, “irrational” and “irresponsible”
http://sites.google.com/site/ernie124102/jbs-1
CONSERVATIVE CRITICS OF ROBERT WELCH and BIRCH SOCIETY:
Contrary to claims made by the Birch Society about the alleged “left-wing” origins of JBS criticism, the most potent adverse comments about the JBS have always originated from the right-side of the political spectrum. This report presents a representative sample of such comments.
http://sites.google.com/site/ernie124102/jbs-4
DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY:
This report presents documents which, generally, have never been previously publicly available — including private correspondence between Robert Welch and numerous individuals and correspondence by JBS National Council members during the formative years of the Birch Society. This report is a work-in-progress and considerable new material will be added over the next few months.
https://sites.google.com/site/ernie1241/Home
“Obama made it worse. Whatever it is.”
Bumper sticker mindset tm – If it weren’t for ill-formed, nonsensical, trite little sayings, Rag’s would nothing to say.
He did use the word “whatever” – that has three syllables. Maybe all those years of home school are working.
Hope and Change, SubHuman Values.
Yes we can.
Win the future.
You’re a moron.
(What are four Obama themes, the last one being truthful?)
“The legacy of the Left’s extreme Bush hatred, which led them to caricature Bush and scorn and misrepresent the great majority of his policies, policies they otherwise might have found reasonable, has had profound consequences for Obama. First, when he takes the same course of action that Bush took, however pragmatic it might be, he looks like a sellout to his most ardent supporters and he looks spineless or unprincipled to moderates. They begin to ask: What does Obama really stand for? Thus, second, Obama lost, quite early in his administration, a President’s most precious commodity: the trust of the American people. They no longer knew whether he said what he meant and meant what he said. And third, this puts him in a tough position entering the election contest. Obama can deliver the same soaring speeches, but soaring speeches swiftly turn sour when the speaker’s actions contradict his words.”
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/philosophicalfragments/2011/12/22/bush-hatred-prevails-over-obama-love/
And Obama made it worse, as we all know.
For (perhaps) nobody more than himself, he made it worse.
His is a legacy of historic failure.
Oh, honey, you just have to guess…
The DOJ has rejected a Freedom of Information Act request from the New York Times that asked the agency to reveal the legal basis for the newly unveiled American program of strategic drone-attack assassinations of American citizens off the field of battle.
“The Democrats have undermined their own arguments about the true nature of the Social Security program (turns out it really is a tax-based welfare program, not a dedicated, contribution-based retirement program), and that the Republicans either ought to take them up on it, or flip the thing one more time and pose as the principled champions of Keeping Social Security Solvent.”
and
“It’s all political Kabuki, of course. Obama wants to paint the congressional Republicans as tax-raising hypocrites, so naturally they’re scattering in fear. But have they thought this thing through? (Rhetorical question.) Do they really want the paying suckers to finally realize that Social Security is a fraud?”
Both from The Corner.
Heh. LOVE this, when the Collective can’t quite manage to maintain their lies and cover stories…!!!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/four-ny-democrats-plead-guilty-to-voter-fraud/
Four Democratic officials and political operatives have pleaded guilty to voter fraud-related felony charges in an alleged scheme to steal an election in Troy, N.Y., FoxNews.com reports.
The group forged signatures on applications for absentee ballots and on the ballots themselves in a 2009 primary of the
***Working Families Party, which was affiliated with now-defunct community group ACORN.***
Bu…but…UAssMORON flops around here cackling that there IS no such thing as an ACORN…
and voter fraud is all a Borg-ish myth…
Huh…??? Funny how facts just keep refudiating the old crone.
Because of the faltering economy and slowed tax revenue, the Clark County School District needs to cut $78 million from its budget over the next two years. The district must do this either by freezing teacher pay and finding a more affordable employee health insurance carrier, or by laying off 1,000 educators as early as next month.
–Big Government
Why does the Collective HATE the middle class and the children…???
Remember…
it is the math.
Ru Paul is mentally troubled.