Whither goest thou? “Only a living thing can go against the stream”
"Against the Tide" by Rob Colvin.
By Sissy Willis of sisu
"Shorter NYT: Tea party is out of the mainstream because members are white, religious and socially conservative," twitter buddy Hale Razor writes re Robert D. Putnam and David E. Campbell's inadvertently self-revelatory New York Times op ed, "Crashing the Tea Party," a fact-challenged, politically correct dismissal of us and our fellow constitutional conservatives as "less popular than much maligned groups like 'atheists' and 'Muslims.'" A couple of paragraphs, and then some analysis:
GIVEN how much sway the Tea Party has among Republicans in Congress and those seeking the Republican presidential nomination, one might think the Tea Party is redefining mainstream American politics.
But in fact the Tea Party is increasingly swimming against the tide of public opinion: among most Americans, even before the furor over the debt limit, its brand was becoming toxic … Interestingly, one group that approaches it in unpopularity is the Christian Right.
Swimming against the tide, indeed. Redefining mainstream American politics is what the tea party has always been about, gentlemen, notwithstanding the last-gasp efforts of the powers that be like you and your fellow travelers in Sarah Palin's "lamestream media" to demonize us into oblivion …
Read full post here.
“Only a dead fish moves with the current.”
Report – CNN, CBS and NY Times polls show CNN, CBS and NY Times anti-Tea Party strategy working
–Professor Jacobson
This has become a concerted campaign. Stories report polls, which measure the results of stories…and intended to support the meme that TEA Party people are becoming less popular, more marginalized, and abnormal.
It is, of course, a lie of the Goebbels school of the Collective.
“I don’t think we’re in danger of another recession, but we are in danger of not having a recovery that’s fast enough to deal with a genuine unemployment crisis for a whole lot of folks out there,” Mr. Obama told CBS News Senior Business Correspondent Anthony Mason.
But…
Ultimately, they see the US and EU as hovering “dangerously close” to recession territory:
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-morgan-stanley-just-slashed-its-global-growth-outlook-2011-8#ixzz1VNo4lDJA
Golly, I wonder who knows more about economics…and is more motivated to tell the truth…???
OBAMA: One of the challenges in terms of rebuilding our economy is – businesses have gotten so efficient, that, uh, when was the last time somebody went to a bank teller? Instead of using an ATM. Or, used a travel agent instead of going online. A lot of jobs out that that used to require people now have become automated.
Yes, those Websites and ATMs just magically appear. No one needs to program them, maintain them, or update them. It’s magic!
–Ed Driscoll
See? Bad Luck Barry really, truly is absolutely clueless about…well…pretty much everything.
Obama made it worse.
Further evidence that Decent America has no use for Real America. The teabaggers are modern day Untouchables.
I’m STILL waiting for the trolls’ cites to where they called John Edwards or Jesse Jackson’s out-of-wedlock children “bastards” and the married-with-children baby-daddies who spent OTHER PEOPLE’s money to hide their immorality “trash”.
But they do have a very perverted idea of “decency”, as we know…
So, I figure I’ll wait a very long time, indeed…
On the economic front, the number of people applying for unemployment benefits jumped 9,000 to a seasonally adjusted 408,000, the highest in four weeks, according to the Labor Department.
Meanwhile, the Consumer Price Index gained 0.5 percent in July, according to the Labor Department, amid higher gas prices last month. The core index, which excludes volatile food and energy, rose 0.2 percent.
–CNBC
Bad Luck Barry is still making it worse.
Oh, lookee…
Here’s another of the “descent (deep, dark descent) people” of the Collective…
“Garofalo also said successful businessman Herman Cain is either being paid to run or is suffering from Stockholm syndrome because he is a “person of color” running as a Republican in the party’s presidential primary.”
–RCP
Grrr-buffalo is one of the worse people on earth. A good Collectivist spokes-hole, though.
“OBAMA: One of the challenges in terms of rebuilding our economy is – businesses have gotten so efficient, that, uh, when was the last time somebody went to a bank teller? Instead of using an ATM. Or, used a travel agent instead of going online. A lot of jobs out that that used to require people now have become automated.
Yes, those Websites and ATMs just magically appear. No one needs to program them, maintain them, or update them. It’s magic!
–Ed Driscoll”
Ed is wrong, the prez is actually right on this one. The bank tellers don’t get jobs servicing the ATM’s that replace them, different skill set. And one tech can service many ATM’s, whereas you need a bunch of tellers, if that’s all you got.
ALL modern recessions, and the Great Depression, were caused by machines replacing human labor, and thereby increasing effeiciency, so that so many people were not neede to produce the requisite goods needed. DUH.
This is one issue the Tea Party will have to wake up to, when their economic policies fail. Hopefully, I will be thre to help.
Jesse Jackson? John Edwards? Geez grandpa, try to stay current. Sorry that Decent America has no interest in Snowbilly trash and their degenerate offspring. Undefeated but unelectable.
Herman Cain had a good thing going with the whole “Rent is Too Damn High” thing but now he’s out of his league.
“Ed is wrong, the prez is actually right on this one.”
Sometimes I despair for you, dingy.
Here is some economics 101…
A century and a half ago, we were MOSTLY employed in agriculture.
Our population was a FRACTION of what it is today.
Today, a tiny percentage of us are involved in agriculture, due to mechanization in very large part.
Our working population is VASTLY larger than it was, but we still have work, largely because MARKET economies are NEVER stagnant. They INNOVATE, and provide jobs nobody ever even CONSIDERED a few years before.
Conversely, they also…because of innovation…make some jobs obsolete. How many ice men have you had bring you ice for your home ice-box? How many elevator operators have you used in the last 20 years? When you called somebody, when was the last time you had to place the call through your local telephone exchange’s operator?
Do you really want to return to the age of the ice-box?
If not for a timely opposition of TEAs to our general trend:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576504033881168802.html?mod=djempersonal
Now this sucker can write.
“the prez is actually right on this one.”
Lord of the Flies often gives Truth a hat tip, as an introduction to another lie.
Innovation is the father of wealth, and will ever be. We no longer have any and Dunce-in-Chief can only suppress its memory.
“Conversely, they also…because of innovation…make some jobs obsolete. How many ice men have you had bring you ice for your home ice-box? How many elevator operators have you used in the last 20 years? When you called somebody, when was the last time you had to place the call through your local telephone exchange’s operator?
Do you really want to return to the age of the ice-box? ”
Classic dumbness.
I said nothing against inovation. I merely note it’s adverse effects. Not all is heaven in this world.
You gloss over that thing called the Great Depression, I note.
You talk about jobs, without realizing you are talking about real live people, who need food, and a place to sleep, who have children, and dreams.
Jobs do not grow on trees. When machines can do EVERYTHING that a person can, then economics demands, that the machine takes the job. How will our ancient economy, deal with this, when the products produced by machines, must bear a cost, yet those very same machines, take the jobs that people need, to get the money, to pay the machines? Where is the morality in that transaction?
Conservatism FAILS this challenge. So does Liberalism.
I remember thousands, literally, thousands, of people filing into skyscrapers every day, to…file! Yeah, ALL of those people found jobs, whne the computers came a calling!
We object to over-taxing those who “produce”. Even if it is just ONE man, and an army of robots. What does that jackass “produce”?
The Tea Party economic policies will fail. It’s not their fault, this is a new age.
(Face-palm)…
Poor dingy…
“The Tea Party economic policies will fail.”
Pardon, but we actually haven’t proposed much new, reformed regulation to-date, apart from tax reform.
We propose a reset, following some period of adjustment, new regulation may well rise like a phoenix from the ashes but sunsetted. If not confirmed by explicit approval of Congress, regulation will die after its probationary period.
Otherwise yours is only the soylent green argument. No offense, but you’re the luddite.
We’ve replaced the “failed policies” of George W. Bush with the even worse economic policies of Barack Obama.
Bush tried to light a backfire by spending less where the Congress was already headed, in the hopes that the deficits and debt would constrain Congress and future Presidents. Obama changed this to spending whatever Congress wanted, ignoring the deficits and debt.
Both of these policies are a failure, so now let’s just try less spending.
Oh dear, MORE actual, verifiable EVIDENCE that the Teahadists, who America despises more with each and every passing gay, CAUSED the mess we are now in.
///There are three main reasons for our downgrade. First, the recent incoming data, especially in the US and the euro area, have been disappointing, suggesting less momentum into 2H11 and pushing down full-year 2011 estimates. Second, recent policy errors – especially Europe’s slow and insufficient response to the sovereign crisis and the drama around lifting the US debt ceiling – have weighed down on financial markets and eroded business and consumer confidence. A negative feedback loop between weak growth and soggy asset markets now appears to be in the making in Europe and the US. This should be aggravated by the prospect of fiscal tightening in the US and Europe.///
Even Eric Cantor is finally trying to put a lid on the crazies. Why? Because it’s finally smacked him in the face that when you’ve lost Morgan Stanly ….
More bad news for Government Central Planning. GM stock price 30% off IPO, where we lost like $10 Billion on our ‘investment’. Down to $23.80 a share.
On those robust sales figures–the ones counting 600K vehicles sitting on dealers lots as sales–are leading to robust confidence among employees. The ratio of sales to purchases of skin in the game: 200 to 1.
She’s headed for bankruptcy all over agin. Bet those employees are resting easy knowing you’ll pick up their pension and healthcare.
USA moron: “Oh dear, MORE actual, verifiable EVIDENCE that the Teahadists, who America despises more with each and every passing gay, CAUSED the mess we are now in.”
LOL!!
That’s right, the guys who got here 6 months ago caused the mess we are in!!
LOL!!
Really.
Go with that.
It’s got to work!!
LOL!
USA moron, why don’t you simply call the tea partiers what you really think they are: counter-revolutionaries!!
LOL!!
More Kulaks!!
Kulaks everywhere I look!!
And ATM’s!! Those darn ATM’s! We’d have lots of jobs if it werent for them.
Wow the teabaggers are as giddy about bad economic news as Marcus Bachmann before a prostate exam!
Thanks for the laughs Real America. Now run along and clean up your double wides.
“…actual, verifiable EVIDENCE that…”
Wow. When you are a hate-twisted, delusional, old, lying crone, word lose all meaning.
And up appears down…
As the way said on CNBC this morning, the “money is fleeing socialist-land”
And he couldn’t have been more correct.
Sorry Terry. But there isn’t anywhere for you to hide anymore.
We are headed to double dip as a direct result of insane leftist over-regulation and bureaucracy.
Not just here, but everywhere.
So tell us Terry, how are you going to blame the Tea Party for Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, now Germany (GDP of .1%), France, etc?
Poor Terry/USA moron/barfo et al, you’ve really finally begun to run out of other peoples money.
Only 21% of the country support our community agitator-in chief’s “economic plan”.
You can count yourself as among the bitter dead-enders.
Your only hope is to keep pretending the dems were not in congressional control for 4 years and that obambi just showed up.
Run with it.
It. Really. Is. All. You’ve. Got.
Congratulations on the new Assistant Shift Manager position at Taco Bell there Terry, well done!!
Can’t hardly wait for your food stamps and Obambicare to kick in real soon!!
The only thing we are “giddy” at is the thought of douche bags like you crawling back under your rocks in 15 months when your POS POTUS is tossed out on his butt along with all of Uncle Georgie’s other stooges!!
Hot or mild sauce with that order mam??
The rise in jobless claims, which took them just above the 400,000 threshold, is unlikely to change perceptions that the economy will dodge another downturn. Claims below the 400,000 mark are usually associated with a stable labor market.
Yep.
Wonder who Bad Luck Barry will try to blame because he made it worse?
Remember, obambi promised us that if we passed his “stimulus” bill, unemployment would never go over 8%.
We passed it.
And look at what happened.
Terry, why did obambi lie to us?
BTW, did you see the latest?
obambi’s admin is funneling dollars via his health care bill to illegal aliens, the very thing for which Joe Wilson called him a liar…..and he was right.
Poor Terry.
Spin away little man, spin away. The house of cards is crumbling…..which is not surprising, since with obambi, there was never really any “there” there.
Hey, I was wondering if our trolls are being slammed by their MEEEEEEsiah as “firebaggers”…???
Seems and apt description when you carry around your flaming colostomy bag…
Sheeech…the stench…!!!
Grandpa, you shouldn’t talk about colostomy bags, it’s bad karma. How’s your brother Wheezy doing btw?
Ofungus needs some herbacide. His economy is dying, and it will not change with regulations the way they are now.
There has never been a time when a 400K level of initial weekly jobless claims has been associated with a “stable labor market,” and I challenge Reuters to identify even one period of stable labor markets where we had a 400K range of reports — ever.
–Ed Morrissey
Hey, it’s the “new normal” here in Obamaville, where decline is HIS choice.
http://wmal.com/article.asp?id=2264812&SPID=40282
Find “listen”…
“The Long and Whiney Road”…
Funny.
Whoa…
The Dow down almost another 420 today…
Volume was heavier than usual with the consolidated tape of the NYSE at 6.12 billion shares, while 1.62 billion shares changed hands on the floor.
“Is this selloff really a surprise? The macro data continues to paint a dire fiscal future for the world—Investors are naïve to think this is a ‘rough patch,’” said Todd Schoenberger, managing director of LandColt Trading. “The ingredients are in place for a prolonged period of the bears controlling this market. Investors need to proceed with caution.”
–cnbc
Yep.
When you have skin in the game…this is a game you don’t wanna be in.
And…
Obama made it MUCH worse.
C’mon trolls…
Who wants to step up and be the first to accept your MEEEEEEEsiah’s new put-down of his own base…???
(Hey, it IS a campaign season…you can COUNT on being pissed on by your Bad Luck Barry)
Who will be the first to claim the “firebagger” imprecation…???
“When you ask them what programs they’d actually cut, they don’t have an answer,” he said “That’s not fiscal responsibility. That’s not a serious plan to govern.”
In fact, the Republicans went on to historic victories in the midterm elections, seizing control of the House of Representatives and making gains in the Senate.
The day after the elections, Mr. Obama told reporters he had gotten the message, and by the end of the year, he had cut a deal with Republicans to extend the tax cuts. That tax deal was largely overshadowed by another speech Mr. Obama gave the day before in North Carolina in which he called for a new “Sputnik moment.”
Heh, heh, heh… “Sputnik”…!!!
“We really don’t need another speech,” Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John A. Boehner, said in a Twitter message on Wednesday after Mr. Obama’s speech was announced. “Seriously, just drop it in the mail. Podium not required.”
Hey, doesn’t TOTUS deserve a vackay, tooo…????
I wonder if ofungus will visit the vineyard twins between nines. Clinton sure did.
http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/files/2011/08/regulators_versus_jobs_8-18-11.jpg
Here’s a purty pic-tur for you idiot trolls.
It shows WHY the Obabaconomy WILL get worse, and it is the OPPOSITE of the bizzarro BS you guys sling about the causes of our plight.
Obama is making it worse. Every. Day.
Washington has been awash in special-interest money during the past two years, particularly surrounding Democrats’ signature issues, the Center for Responsive Politics found. In that time, more than two dozen corporations, trade associations and interest groups spent at least $20 million on lobbying for changes to health care and financial regulations and on economic stimulus funding.
–AP
Exactly as predicted in the Obamabanana Republic…
How do you perform Teahad? Spend only what you can afford. Ya Baby I am a Teahadist. Imagine all the libs heads exploding when the Teahadists own both houses of congress and the White House. This will be our return to greatness. The left is in fits. It can’t handle the amount of disdain shown towards their teleprompter jesus. I raise my soda water in toast to all Teahadists.
Hey, remember when Terry and barfo were laughing at everyone buying gold at $1000/oz?
Hey, remember when barfo and Terry and mikey and USA moron and all the other libs were telling us there was no inflation?
Hey, remember when Terry and Barfo and all the other libs were telling us that the Dow was “proof” that obambi’s policies were working?
Hey, remember when Terry and barfo and all the other libs were telling us that obambi was creating or saving millions of jobs?
Hey, remember when obambi told us that the stimulus plan would fund “shovel ready” jobs?
Hey, remember when all the libs told us that unemployment payments and food stamps and other government social welfare spending created 1.6 or more $$ for every $$ spent? (gee, we should have about 5% GDP growth if that is correct………..do we?)
Well, better get that spin machine spun up. The lefties are going to need it.
Again, the hard part will be trying to explain how the tea party here is responsible for the entirely predictable and inevitable failure of leftist social-welfare states all over the world.
But then again, if anyone can do, I’m sure barfo can!!
Biden would be an improvement over ofungus. Ouch.
Obama’s answer? He doesn’t even engage. That’s the point of these ugly accusations of bad faith. They are the equivalent of branding Republicans enemies of the people. Gov. Rick Perry has been rightly chided for throwing around the word “treasonous” in reference to the Fed. Obama gets a pass for doing the same, only slightly more artfully, regarding Republicans. After all, he is accusing them of wishing to see America fail for their own political gain. What is that if not a charge of betraying one’s country?
The charge is not just ugly. It’s laughable. All but five Republican members of the House — moderate, establishment, Tea Party, freshmen alike — voted for a budget containing radical Medicare reform knowing it could very well end many of their careers. Democrats launched gleefully into Mediscare attacks, hardly believing their luck that Republicans should have proposed something so politically risky in pursuit of fiscal solvency. Yet Obama accuses Republicans of acting for nothing but partisan advantage.
This from a man who has cagily refused to propose a single structural reform to entitlements in his three years in office. A man who ordered that the Afghan surge be unwound by September 2012, a date that makes no military sense (it occurs during the fighting season), a date not recommended by his commanders, a date whose sole purpose is to give Obama political relief on the eve of the 2012 election. And Obama dares accuse others of placing politics above country?
–Charles Krauthammer
Obama pledged to reform entitlements.
Instead, he made them worse.
In our own day, violent revolution is unlikely. But expansive and expensive entitlements managed and dispensed by government bureaucracies achieve the same end using democratic means: the redistribution of wealth at the expense of the long-term planning and policies needed for civic and economic well-being. The clash of numerous competing factional interests as they enrich themselves via such government transfers of wealth has led to what journalist Jonathon Rauch in 1994 called “demosclerosis.”
“By definition,” Rauch explains, “the government’s power comes from its ability to reassign resources, whether by taxing, spending, regulating, or simply passing laws. But that very ability energizes countless investors and entrepreneurs and ordinary Americans to go digging for gold by lobbying government. In time, a whole industry––large, sophisticated, professionalized, and self-serving––emerges and then assumes a life of its own. This industry is a drain on the productive economy, and there appears to be no natural limit to its growth. As it grows, the steady accumulation of subsidies and benefits, each defended in perpetuity by a professional interest group, calcifies government. Government loses its capacity to experiment and so becomes more and more prone to failure.”
http://www.hoover.org/publications/defining-ideas/article/89656
The next election is about whether or not there will be a United States.
Atlas Is Sorta Shrugging
Of course, one Huey Long–like “fat cat,” an occasional adolescent “millionaires and billionaires,” a once-in-a-while juvenile “corporate jet owners,” a few 1960s-like “spread the wealth” or “redistributive change” slips, a single petulant “unneeded income,” or a sole pop-philosophizing “at some point you’ve made enough money,” or even on occasion the old socialist boilerplate “those who make over $250,000 should pay their fair share” in isolation are tolerable. But string them together and even the tire store owner and pharmaceutical rep are aroused from their 70-hour weeks, and start to conclude, “Hmmm, this guy doesn’t like me or what I do, and I better make the necessary adjustments.”
And, believe me, they are making the necessary adjustments.
–Victor Davis Hanson
Read the whole thing.
http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/atlas-is-sorta-shrugging/
How nervous are Democrats as they watch economic anxieties rise and public approval of President Obama’s handling of the economy fall?
Very nervous. “The president is extremely vulnerable, extraordinarily vulnerable,” says a plugged-in Democratic strategist. “I’m stunned that he’s going on vacation. It’s just appallingly stupid. The stupidity of it just amazes me.”
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/08/obama-trouble-gop-faces-its-own-divide#ixzz1VTZJJk84
“Stupidity”…??? No. Something a lot more pathological.
Time for another dematurd to challenge the long legged mac daddy.