Jack Dorsey’s Twitter Town Hall: By Obama, for Obama

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July 7, 2011

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"The first-ever presidential forum on Twitter was undercut by the commander-in-chief himself, as President Obama answered questions from average Americans with a tide of talking points that went uninterrupted and unchallenged, short-circuiting the event’s populist potential," summarizes the Boston Herald's Jessica Van Sack, who watched Twitter Founder Jack Dorsey's "Twitter Town Hall" so we didn't have to. Above, a comely attendee lifts her iPad beside the East Room door at what one critic who blogs at Harvard Business Review is calling "a Meaningless Marketing Stunt." (MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images) 

By Sissy Willis of sisu

"How can we make Twitter Town Halls better in the future? And not just for the US government, but any government," twittered Twitter co-founder and enthusiastic Obama supporter Jack Dorsey following yesterday's predictably stilted, "first-ever presidential forum on Twitter," unwittingly revealing a fundamental misunderstanding of American Exceptionalism and the Shining City …

How to make future Twitter Town Halls better? As we twittered in response,

Try to remember that here in the USA town halls are not for the GOVT but for the PEOPLE.

Read full post here.

Comments:
  1. Ragspierre says:

    President Fiddle-foot is spiraling into full swirly mode…
    Even his straw-man is edging toward the door.

  2. Terry says:

    This post is marginally better than the inane Francis Drake crap so I say Bravo!

  3. USA American says:

    “Try to remember that here in the USA town halls are not for the GOVT but for the PEOPLE.”
    Yawn. Unless, consistent with Rule No. 1, it’s a Republican president giving the town-hall.
    I do find it further hilarious that small-government types are whining about what an event sponsored by a PRIVATE company SHOULD be – because it hurts their feelings that it wasn’t what THEY WANTED it to be. Again, consistent with Rule No. 1.
    Here’s a solution consistent with the “free-market” principles *conservatives* tell us they value so much: Don’t use Twitter.

  4. Ragspierre says:

    UAssMORON fails to even comprehend that EVERYBODY…Right, Left, Center…panned this bogus campaign gimmick.
    But, hey, she usually fails to comprehend.

  5. USA American says:

    “UAssMORON fails to even comprehend that EVERYBODY…Right, Left, Center…panned this bogus campaign gimmick.”
    Prove it.
    Here come the fallacies ….

  6. Ragspierre says:

    The ‘Twitter Town Hall’ that so really wasn’t
    On Wednesday, the cool president teamed up with the cool website. So why did it flop so hard?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-oped-0707-tweets-20110707,0,3519348.story
    What didn’t [work]
    – Obama. Or to be more specific, the lack of a moderator to reel in Obama. His answers were way too verbose and bordered on stump speeches at times.
    – Lack of conservative participation. Many right-wingers felt their questions wouldn’t be answered and didn’t even try. This made things less interesting.
    – Choosing well-known tweeters. Simply put, it was lame that questions from columnist Nicholas Kristof and House Speaker John Boehner crowded out the regular folks who were supposed to be front and center.
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view.bg?articleid=1350171&srvc=next_article
    The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, the largest union in the United States, asked the four word question: “Where are the jobs?”
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/06/first-ever-twitter-town-hall-provokes-huge-response/#ixzz1RRh0iDB2

  7. Ragspierre says:

    Quote of the day–
    “We will have to make tough decisions about Defense spending, or even on programs that I like.”*
    -President Barack Obama, Twitter townhall event.
    Kinda says a lot in a few words. A Kinsleyian faux pas.

  8. Ragspierre says:

    President Barack Obama’s job approval rating averaged 46% in June, down from 50% in May but similar to his ratings from February through April.
    The president’s approval rating rose in May after the May 1 announcement that U.S. forces had killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. It has since subsided about equally among all major demographic subgroups, reverting nearly to April’s level.
    Obama’s strongest support continues to come from blacks (86%), adults aged 18 to 29 (54%), those living in the East (53%), and Hispanics (52%).
    –Gallup

  9. Ragspierre says:

    Some legal observers would like to be rid of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Associated Press reported over the weekend. These aren’t conservatives who find her too activist but liberals who find her too old and worry that if she doesn’t get out soon, a Republican president will get to replace her:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303365804576429852703978020.html
    Heh, heh, heh…

  10. gary gulrud says:

    ‘Round about late October, Traitor-in-Chief will get the picture: GTFO.

  11. BR says:

    Between the end of limitless U.S. credit, and five actual conservatives on the Supreme Court, American government activity might actually revert to just the constitutionally authorized stuff. Likely in a much shorter time than most people expect. Sure would be a radical change.

  12. USA American says:

    … “constitutionally authorized stuff” …
    You mean like:
    Art. 14, Section 4 – The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

  13. Ragspierre says:

    Radical, but really good.
    The term “radical change” most correctly means change “at the root”, from the Latin “radis”.
    And, yes, we need to return to our Constitutional roots.

  14. Ragspierre says:

    UAssMORON, typical of your lies, you selectively quote from the 14th.
    Put up the whole section, you stupid, lying phuc.
    Tell us the distinction between a VALID debt, and one you have the CAPACITY to pay.
    (Hint: look up the definition of insolvency, moron)

  15. Dinah says:

    Rags[ierre wrote:
    “UAssMORON, typical of your lies, you selectively quote from the 14th.
    Put up the whole section, you stupid, lying phuc.
    Tell us the distinction between a VALID debt, and one you have the CAPACITY to pay.
    (Hint: look up the definition of insolvency, moron)”
    I do not know why it surprises you that a liberal only quotes the part that “makes” his point and not the whole. That is their modus operandi. They snip what they want and even if the previous or next sentence completely negates it, they don’t care. That is part of their indoctrination process.
    Progressives are extremely ignorant of world history and for all of their elitist attitude they are basically lacking in knowledge.

  16. Drago says:

    USA moron: “Art. 14, Section 4 – The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”
    LOL
    Even Laurence Tribe isn’t buying this crap!!
    LOL!!
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/08/opinion/08tribe.html?_r=1
    Double LOL!!
    snip: “A Ceiling We Can’t Wish Away”
    Poor USA moron!!
    Always at least a day late on the now inoperative lefty talking points!!
    But thats ok moron! You’ll still get your soros-funded cookie!!

  17. Drago says:

    9.2% U-3 unemployment after June!
    Hooray for obambi/sheriff li’l joey biden/barfo/terry/USA moron economic “success”!
    The hits keep coming!
    …….the hits ON the American people………
    Remember, the lefties told us their policies would solve all our problems….
    And it would do it quickly….
    And now all those comments, all those predictions, all those talking points are going to be endlessly, and I do mean endlessly, paraded before the American people during the campaign of 2012.
    The left better get that spin machine working overtime, they’re going to need it more than ever.

  18. Drago says:

    Wait, that’s not all!!
    President “teleprompter” is now telling us that we need to both “spend more money” AND “live within our means”….
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/07/08/remarks-president-monthly-jobs-report
    LOL!!
    I guess “live within our means” and “spend more money” means what lefties? A $2 Trillion dollar deficit?
    The Cloward-Piven strategy of the obambi dead-enders continues apace……..

  19. Drago says:

    Wow. 18,000 jobs created last month.
    Hey, remember when sheriff li’l joey biden told us that the US would be creating 500,000 private sector jobs per month by now if we passed the democrat plan?
    I do.
    The plan was passed.
    But only 18,000 jobs were created last month.
    So, lessee here….that makes noted “rocket scientist” and “brilliant” military strategist biden (remember biden’s “clever” “hey, let’s split Iraq into 3 separate countries strategy”? LOL!) off on the job creation front by about, hmmmm, right about a zillion percent!!
    Not to worry though.
    obambi is on another vacation, just in time to “recuperate” from all that “hard work” of getting the American economy running again!

  20. Drago says:

    Hey, remember when barfo and the lefties were telling us that economy under obambi was “booming”?
    LOL!
    I do.

  21. Drago says:

    More good news emerges from that “bubbling cauldron of economic genius” that is the obambi administration!!
    Unemployment doesn’t matter!!
    Hooray!
    And unemployment really really really really really doesn’t matter when it comes to electoral politics!!!
    Double hooray!!
    All according to obambi’s hand-picked top political advisor, li’l David Plouffie-pillow:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-07/unemployment-rate-won-t-hobble-re-election-david-plouffe-says.html

  22. Drago says:

    You’d think that the dems would be able to create lots of new jobs in their new and growing “give guns to mexican drug cartels in order to kill American Agents” programs………

  23. USA American says:

    No surprise. Drago cheers while his Teabilly heroes deliberately tank the economy. Because he hates the Kenyan more than he loves his fellow Americans.

  24. Ragspierre says:

    And UAssMORON lies.
    More.
    Again.
    Repeatedly.
    Habitually.
    Obama made it worse. All of it.

  25. USA American says:

    And the preening 1L mumbles on and on about matters he repeatedly fails to prove. Today, Bohener admitted that failure to raise the debt ceiling (something that was done routinely 6 times under W) would put the American economy in jeopardy, resulting in more job losses. Yet, he can’t make his Teabagger colleagues in the House come to grips with that fundamental reality. This, of course, tells the preening 1L nothing. But I’m sure the preening 1L has many strawmen and fallacies he can toss out.

  26. Drago says:

    USA moron: “No surprise. Drago cheers while his Teabilly heroes deliberately tank the economy. Because he hates the Kenyan more than he loves his fellow Americans.”
    LOL!!
    That’s it folks!
    That’s really all the left has now.
    There is nothing else for them to say.
    obambi/biden promised relief.
    obambi/biden/lefties have permanently damaged the American economy.
    And there’s nothing they can do (or are willing to do) between now and Nov of 2012 to create any economic growth or real private sector employment growth.
    So what are they gonna do?
    The only thing (and I do mean the ONLY thing) they can say is “republicans have tanked the economy!!”, which will be funny when that comment is displayed right next to all the other comments by the lefties that they had already saved the economy and that the economy is booming.
    LOL
    The lefties here now must feel exactly like Erich Honecker did right about 1989, after all their little lefty plans and policies were washed away like sand castles at high tide.
    Poor little usa moron! He still doesn’t recognize that all of his talking points are currently being revised because it’s no longer 2008 and the lefties can no longer hide exactly what they are and exactly what they intend to do and keep doing.
    Worst of all, the lefties can no longer hide their responsibility for the economic reality they have created.
    So little usa moron, like all lefties, is simply lashing out like a wounded and battered boxer who is still swinging wildly even though the other fighter is watching bemusedly on the other side of the ring.
    If you think that 1000+ seat dem to republican swing in 2010 was bad, (the worst defeat of a sitting party on a national scale in every region and at every level since the 1920′s), just wait till you see what the American people do to the dems in 2012 when the real effects of the dems fully operational “economic-destroying deathstar” are in full view.
    One can scarcely wait for it….
    BTW, what do you think the final count of wars obambi has us engaged in will be in Nov of 2012? We’re currently sitting at “6″.

  27. Ragspierre says:

    Aaaaannnnnnnnnnndddd….
    UAssMORON drops to her ad hominem BS about my profession.
    Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn…
    about anything stupid that anyone might say.
    The US economy IS in jeopardy…has been for MANY MONTHS.
    Made worse by the Obamabanana Republic and their fascist economics.
    Obama made it worse. Again.

  28. Drago says:

    USA moron: “Today, Bohener admitted that failure to raise the debt ceiling (something that was done routinely 6 times under W) would put the American economy in jeopardy, resulting in more job losses.”
    LOL!
    Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006!!!
    Latest USA moron approved campaign theme for obambi:
    “Obama the Teabilly!!”
    LOL!!

  29. USA American says:

    “obambi/biden promised relief.”
    And the GOP / Teabillies said “no” at every turn.

  30. USA American says:

    “UAssMORON drops to her ad hominem BS about my profession.”
    Looks like the preening 1L needs the whaaaaambulance.
    “Made worse by the Obamabanana Republic and their fascist economics.
    Obama made it worse. Again.”
    Yeah, you say that a lot. Absent a shred of proof. Which is why you are mocked as a preening 1L.

  31. Ragspierre says:

    But UAssMORON, the evidence is everywhere around you.
    You yourself sing the blues about the economy.
    And, until the new members came to power after 2010, ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the economy belonged to the Collective.
    And a fine mess they have made.
    And OBAMA MADE IT WORSE.
    You can sit in the dark corner of your basement and chant it ain’t so.
    But you are a delusional idiot, as you prove regularly.

  32. Ragspierre says:

    The coal industry is crying foul over new Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations which they say will be among the most be costly rules ever imposed by the agency on coal-fueled power plants.
    The result, industry insiders say: substantially higher electricity rates and massive job loss.
    “The EPA is ignoring the cumulative economic damage new regulations will cause,” said Steve Miller, president and CEO of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity (ACCCE). “America’s coal-fueled electric industry has been doing its part for the environment and the economy, but our industry needs adequate time to install clean coal technologies to comply with new regulations. Unfortunately, EPA doesn’t seem to care.”
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/07/new-epa-rules-to-devastate-coal-industry/#ixzz1RXg7qOxF
    Obama…and his insane EPA admin…made it WORSE.

  33. USA American says:

    That you CONTINUE to be unable to draw a causal relationship between your blatherings and the facts is nothing short of stupendous. Even for a preening 1L. But I’ll play your game just to illustrate your absurdity. PRIOR to the Nov. 2010 election, the economy was slowly sputtering along, getting a little better each month. SINCE the Teabillies took control of the House, the economy has nose-dived because as demand continues to disappear, the Teabillies insist on austerity – something we know from history only makes economic downturns worse because it takes sputtering demand, and drowns it in a bathtub. Your heroes who chanted “jobs, jobs, jobs” last summer and fall have not passed a single solitary item, at either the state or federal level, that has created just one job. Corporate profits are at record highs because of policies advocated by you and your Teabilly heroes for decades. Yet no jobs. Taxes are historically LOWER under Obama than any other time in recent memory. Yet no jobs. Bush tax cuts extended. Yet no jobs. The stim was 40% tax cuts. Yet no new jobs. Your policies are demonstrably absurd, and have failed. Historically, we can look at the policies you drool over and point to a causual relationship to what we now have. Or at least grown ups can.

  34. gary gulrud says:

    Obaminable promised to halve the national debt if elected in 2008.
    Well his base don’t care what the hell he says, said, or is. But his base is experiencing shrinkage.

  35. Ragspierre says:

    “the Teabillies insist on austerity – something we know from history only makes economic downturns worse because it takes sputtering demand, and drowns it in a bathtub”
    Truly insane.
    Teabillies are now the IMF, the leaders of Europe, and the expanding economies of Canada and…well…everywhere where the Collective has been proven a failure.
    Reducing our levels of corrupt taxing/spending and inane regulation is how you spur job growth.
    Gawd, you are SUCH an apt spokes-hole for the Collective.

  36. USA American says:

    “Teabillies are now the IMF, the leaders of Europe, and the expanding economies of Canada and…well…everywhere where the Collective has been proven a failure.”
    You mean the Europe that is on the verge of collapse? Ask Greece and teh UK how their austerity measures are doing.
    “Reducing our levels of corrupt taxing/spending and inane regulation is how you spur job growth.”
    Absent all evidence to the contrary. Taxes and regulations in this cuontry have been systematically rolled-back since the 80s. Look where we are.
    “Gawd, you are SUCH an apt spokes-hole for the Collective.”
    Gawd, you are SUCH an apt spokes-hole for the preening authoritarian black shirts.

  37. Ragspierre says:

    According to Godwin’s law, you just declared me the winner, you lying phuc.
    You are nuts. Certifiable.
    Have you seen the Federal Register? Regulations have EXPLODED.
    Carbon dioxide has…by pure witch-craft…been declared a “pollutant”.
    And…
    “The president has taken responsibility that we have to do everything we can,” Goolsbee said when asked if the White House will take the blame for Friday’s poor jobs report. “It is his number-one priority. We wake up every day — what can we do to get the growth rate higher?”
    Goolsbee said “hundreds of thousands of jobs if not millions” could be created if a payroll tax cut is extended, trade deals are passed, an infrastructure bank is created, a patent reform bill is approved and a deficit deal is reached. He also said that if those things happen, the unemployment rate would be 8.2 percent by the fourth quarter of 2012.
    ———————————————–
    Yeah. Patent reform will be a real jobs mill.
    Madness.

  38. Ragspierre says:

    “Ask Greece and teh UK how their austerity measures are doing.”
    You mean the responsible people or the anarchists in the streets, lying phuc?
    Ask Germany.
    Ask Poland.
    Or, just ask anyone with a brain…
    when you are INSOLVENT, do you borrow MORE? Or do you curb your spending?
    What did Gandhi say about when the people cease to support government? We are REALLY close to having PRODUCTIVE people simply say, “Nope, no more”.

  39. Drago says:

    USA moron: “And the GOP / Teabillies said “no” at every turn.”
    LOL!!
    How did the GOP stop the dems when the dems had a supermajority in the senate and control of the house?
    LOL!!
    Poor little usa moron.
    Just can’t keep up……….which makes you the perfect little lefty toad.
    Keep croaking toad.
    LOL

  40. Drago says:

    Maybe USA moron can explain why obambi’s hilariously fake and unbelievable February 2010 “budget” proposal (which would have actually INCREASED the debt)was voted down in the democrat controlled senate 97-0?
    LOL.
    97-0….against!
    Why USA moron? Why?
    LOL!
    Gee, it’s almost as if even the dems know that obambi budget ideas are a joke and don’t want to be saddled with appearing to support obambi!
    LOL!
    But you know who DOES believe in obambi’s joke “budgets”?
    Yep.
    USA moron!
    LOL!!
    Hang in there USA moron!! You dead-ender rubes have to stick together!!

  41. Drago says:

    Hey USA moron, remember this one?
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/mar/08/nancy-pelosi/pelosi-claims-health-care-reform-will-create-thous/
    snip: Nancy Pelosi: “The health care bill will “create 4 million jobs, 400,000 jobs almost immediately.”
    Gee, where are those jobs again?
    Nancy said if we passed the health care takeover bill then these jobs would be created.
    The health care takeover bill was passed.
    Where are those jobs again?
    How did the republicans stop these jobs from being created?
    It’s sooooo confusing when your lies are so transparently and, lets face it, pathetically false.
    LOL!!
    But do cling to those talking points USA moron! From your perspective, it must really beat the heck out of actually thinking for yourself……..
    LOL

  42. Drago says:

    So, it’s now about 6pm EST.
    That should have been plenty of time for USA moron and the other talking-points driven lefty idiots to read up on Laurence Tribes takedown of the hilarious democrat meme that the 14th Amendment allows obambi to ignore the debt ceiling.
    Of course, that assumes that USA moron/terry/”there is no inflation!” and “the economy is booming” barfo/etc are capable of reading and comprehending what was written.
    LOL!

  43. SacTownMan says:

    Wow, the inept loser known hereabouts as USA (Useless Sociopathic Asshole) “American” just keeps up with the cute little “teabilly” lines and offers nothing but worn out talking points with no counter arguments worthy of any merit!
    It will be a great day for our Republic when losers like this crawl back under their rocks for a generation never to be seen on the political landscape again! (unless you’re unfortunate enough to live in NY or California)
    Please, Please, Please, bring on 2012!!!!
    Time to take our Republic back from these idiots and their Chicago Slime Machine puppet masters!!!!

  44. templar knight says:

    SacTownMan, I see you are still fighting the good fight. Saw you on Gateway Pundit and decided to come over here and see if you were still posting here.

  45. Ragspierre says:

    “The numbers, they are awful.”
    9.2% — unemployment rate for June.
    0.1% — increase since May.
    16.2% — underemployment rate for June.
    0.4% — increase since May.
    8% — conventional wisdom for the maximum allowable unemployment rate to win reelection.
    15 — remaining BLS reporting months before Election Day.
    255,000 — net jobs that must be created each and every month to reach 8%.
    18,000 — net jobs created last month.
    44,000 — downward revision to April and May job creation.
    3,825,000 — total net jobs needed before Election Day.
    2,100,000 — jobs created in the last fifteen months.
    11.2% — unemployment rate if the labor participation rate was as high as it was in January, 2009.
    290,000 — best monthly net jobs gain during Obama administration.
    231,000 — real best gain, minus temporary Census hiring.
    14 — months since best monthly gain.
    1% — decrease in DJIA in the opening minute of trading, day that jobs figures released.
    $1,200,000,000,000 — cost of ARRA “stimulus,” with interest.
    1,900,000 — net jobs lost since ARRA was signed.
    2 — quantitative easing programs since 2008.
    ~$2,000,000,000,000 — total of first QE program during Great Recession.
    $600,000,000,000 — total of second QE program, just ended.
    40% — increase in federal debt since January, 2009.
    30% — increase in annual federal spending since January, 2009.
    20% — decrease in federal revenues since January, 2009.
    12% — decline in value of US dollar since January, 2009.
    37% — increase in number of Americans on food stamps since January, 2009.
    62% — increase in Misery index since January, 2009.
    800 — days since the Senate passed a budget.
    1.9% — last quarterly GDP increase.
    2.5% — consensus projection for last quarterly GPD increase.
    2.7% — official White House projection.
    3.0% or better — GDP growth needed to dent unemployment.
    3.6% — official White House GDP growth projection for 2012.
    2.7% — IMF GDP growth projection for 2012.
    30% — federal debt held by public as percentage of GDP, 2005.
    60% — federal debt held by public as percentage of GDP, 2010.
    180% — federal debt held by public as percentage of GDP, CBO estimate, 2035.
    0% — odds of current path being sustainable.
    http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/
    Obama made it worse.

  46. Ragspierre says:

    The only way for Obama to stimulate the enormous private sector job growth needed to ensure Obama’s reelection is for Obama to announce he is not running for reelection, which would unleash a wave of investment and economic activity not seen since the Great Depression.
    –Jacobson @ Legal Insurrection

  47. TheCollective says:

    Nah, Obama made it better. Go check out Bush’s record. When he left office, the economy was SHRINKING, we were faced with the possibility of another Great Depression, and some of our biggest companies were failing.
    You get left a huge pile of crap, it takes awhile to clear it out.
    The Republicans now control the House. What’s their plan, other than cutting trillions, which is REALLY going to improve the economy. Where’s their Jobs bill?
    Republicans don’t care about the little guy. Even now they’re more interested in fighting to keep tax deductions for their Corporate Bosses than they are in saving the country. The want to balance a budget but can’t even manage to repeal a tax giveaway on corporate jets.
    Funny think, you bitch that Obama’s made it worse yet you support TeaTards plan to shut the country down. That happens, you’re going to have to change your tune.

  48. Ragspierre says:

    Wow, Collectivist…
    are you confused.
    And easily punked.

  49. TheCollective says:

    Do you have amnesia?
    ***
    “Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantia l effects on the domestic financial markets and on the value of the dollar in exchange markets. The Nation can ill afford to allow such a result. The risks, the costs, the disruption s and the incalculab le damage lead me to but one conclusion : the Senate must pass this legislatio n before the Congress adjourns.”
    Ronald Reagan

  50. Ragspierre says:

    Do you have dementia?
    The world financial markets have called on the U.S. to limit its debt.
    See the figures on how much of our debt “the public” is buying (above), you moron. That means that NOBODY wants our debt any longer.
    A debt ceiling is NOT a denial of our debt. It is a LIMIT on it.
    How stupid are you, really?

  51. Drago says:

    collective, do you have amnesia?
    obambi voted against raising the debt ceiling.
    Therefore, using current lefty “rules”, criticizing opposition to raising the debt ceiling is racist.
    LOL

  52. Drago says:

    BTW, is it a coincidence that the same government that feels up grandmas with cancer at airports and makes them take off their Depends, also sells guns to Mexican narco-terrorists who use said guns to kill American law enforcement officers?

  53. TheCollective says:

    I agree, they should reign in TSA.
    The government is not selling guns terrorists.
    TeaTards want the government to default and Ragspierre tells us that no one wants to buy US debt anymore.
    Could you be anymore clueless?

  54. Ragspierre says:

    “The government is not selling guns terrorists.”
    No. It just made sure they could buy them and get them into Mexico. What a liar.
    “TeaTards want the government to default and Ragspierre tells us that no one wants to buy US debt anymore.”
    That is two lies.
    1) nobody wants the government to default. That is why we are in favor of controlling spending. Not accepting new debt is not the same as a “default”, moron. It is, rather, nearly THE FLUCKING OPPOSITE.
    2) Ragspierre “tells” you nothing…he merely reports the FACT that our recent debt sales have been 70%+ to OURSELVES. I recite numbers; you deny reality.
    Clueless? Yes, the Collective is, has been, and will be; being deluded is a requisite.
    Moron.

  55. Ragspierre says:

    Selective Shaming
    If only government were as accountable as British tabloids.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/271419/selective-shaming-mark-steyn
    Read the whole thing.
    Why does the Collective LOVE monopoly so?
    We know…absolutely…what we will get from a monopoly, so why does the Collective default to it?

  56. Drago says:

    collective morons: “The government is not selling guns terrorists.”
    Wow.
    Are you really going to keep up this lie even as the clear and compelling evidence continues to pour forth?
    Well, as a lefty, I guess you are going to continue to rely on the “unexpected” (NOT!) embargoing of this story by the dinosaur lefty media.
    It now appears that obambi’s Tampa ATF actually walked guns right into the arms of MS-13 in Honduras.
    For your edification (assuming that is even possible), MS-13 is one of the most violent gangs in the world and is well represented in the US prison population (AKA “natural democrat voting constituency”).
    Meanwhile, even as obambi and his pals on the left were handing over weapons directly to drug cartels and violent gangs so they could kill innocent Mexican citizens and US agents, obambi was SIMULTANEOUSLY trying to help get a murdering Mexican national off the hook for rape, assault, murder etc in Texas.
    The 4 lines written above tells you all you have to know about lefty “values”.

  57. ObamasDead says:

    Really great story. All from “a source”. Gee, too bad they didn’t actually bother to include a name.
    Hey, know who supports selling guns to terrorists? The NRA.
    No doubt you have lots of links that show Obama was briefed on the whole thing, cause you know, he’s got his finger on EVERY program the government runs.
    You know who did know about Fast and Furious? Darrel Issa.
    ************
    Issa Briefed:
    “At the briefing last year, bureau officials laid out for Issa and other members of Congress from both parties details of several ATF investigations, including Fast and Furious, the sources said. For that program, the briefing covered how many guns had been bought by “straw purchasers,’’ the types of guns and how much money had been spent, said one source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the briefing was not public. “All of the things [Issa] has been screaming about, he was briefed on,’’ said one source familiar with the session.”
    Looks like Issa should be investigating himself.
    Hypocrisy, that’s all you need to know about righty “values”

  58. Drago says:

    LOL!!
    So, let me see if I’ve got this straight…
    The lefties are now claiming, via a single anonymous source that Congressman Issa was briefed in detail about a program that Eric Holder claims he was completely in the dark on!!
    LOL!!
    Next up: The lefties will provide irrefutable evidence that Rep Weiner’s twitter account was hacked by right wing operatives!!
    LOL!!

  59. Drago says:

    spinning lefty: “No doubt you have lots of links that show Obama was briefed on the whole thing, cause you know, he’s got his finger on EVERY program the government runs.”
    LOL!!
    It’s just the brilliant and insightful obambi administration….for which obambi plays no responsible role!!
    LOL!
    You. Can’t. Make. This. Stuff. Up.
    Next up by the lefties: Why Bush was responsible for every act performed by every employee of the government or member of the military and why obambi isn’t……..
    LOL!
    Newest obambi reelection slogan: “Re-elect obambi in 2012! He can’t possibly be responsible for the actions of his administration!”
    LOL!

  60. Drago says:

    BTW, Darrell Issa has already publicly denied that he had been briefed on this program and the only source “available” to contradict him was an anonymous source quoted in one article in the Washington Post.
    If Issa was briefed, here are a few questions that should be very very very very easy to answer:
    1) On what date was Issa briefed?
    2) By what member(s) of the administration?
    3) What specifically, was Issa told during this briefing?
    4) What other members of Congress were present during this briefing and can confirm what was relayed to Issa?
    5) Is there an official record of this briefing?
    6) If this program, which entailed the straw purchases of weapons in the United States and the supposed tracking of these weapons across international borders and into the hands of murderous drug cartels and international gangs, how is it that Eric Holder was not informed of this?
    LOL!
    We anxiously await the lefties fact-filled answers………..(not really…..LOL!)

  61. Drago says:

    And as if the latest jobs report wasn’t bad enough, we also know that the numbers for June would have been much much worse if not for the 2 little “tricks” obambi and his economic geniuses employed to try and hide the real damage his policies have had.
    What were those tricks? Well, you can read them for yourselves here:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/can_jobs_news_get_worse_just_wait_kujJq1I8GMMrUtceqERkmJ
    summary:
    snip 1) “the number of jobs increased in June only because the Labor Department simultaneously revised downward the number of jobs that existed in this country during May.”
    snip 2) “Without the fence-moving operation in the May employment report, the June number — yesterday’s number — would have shown a decline of 26,000 jobs.
    snip 3) “Then there’s another problem with June’s employment report. Included in the 18,000 headline number is a guesstimate that 131,000 jobs were created by newly formed — and, therefore, invisible — companies.
    If you want to send your resume to one of these companies, don’t bother. They probably don’t exist, and neither do the jobs the government thinks they are creating.”
    obambi economic “magic”…….
    Just wait.
    obambi and his li’l minions will be pulling alot worse than this before November of 2012.
    They’ll have to since their policies only continue to make the unemployment picture worse and worse and worse and …..(you get the idea)….

  62. Drago says:

    Hey, did you all happen to catch the latest obambi admin “throw the lefty trolls under the bus” moment?
    LOL!
    On July 9, Sec “why should I pay my taxes like the little folks” Geithners Treasury counsel wrote a little letter to the NY Times (why not, it’s the lefties house propaganda organ!) saying, gee, Sec Geithner never ever ever ever evah! tried to argue that the 14th amendment meant the President could ignore Congresses authority in setting the debt limit!!
    LOL!
    http://www.treasury.gov/connect/blog/Pages/FACT-CHECK-Treasury-General-Counsel-George-Madison-Responds-to-New-York-Times-Op-Ed-on-14th-Amendment.aspx
    Too funny!!
    Those silly lefty trolls.
    obambi just dumps them under the bus time and again and, like all good little budding stalinists, they just keep coming back for more!!
    LOL!!

  63. TheCollective says:

    Why don’t you answer those questions for your Tampa ATF story based on “a source”?
    The employment picture was getting better until Republicans took over the house. Then they went to sh**.
    Where’re all those Republican Jobs bills we were promised? Seems like the only thing they’re interested in is shutting down the country. Dems even offered them some tax cuts they’d been asking for and they turned those down.
    Guess who’s short the US Bond market? Eric Cantor!!!!!!!!!!!

  64. Drago says:

    looky here at little collective boy spinning his little heart out!
    It almost makes me want to pat him on the head and tell him that his pretending his guys don’t own the economy is just ADORABLE!!
    LOL!
    Yep. We’re supposed to ignore what happened to spending under Bush after the dems took over in 2007, but we’re supposed to think that it’s all the republicans in the House fault this year!
    LOL!!
    Unfortunately for li’l collective boy, the people aren’t buying it.
    Did you see the latest PPP poll out for Pennsylvania today?!
    Yikes (if you’re a socialist)!
    Ace has a great rundown:http://ace.mu.nu/
    So, clearly, now we see Pennsylvania trending the same way Ohio already has for quite some time.
    Poor little collective boy!
    Always weeks behind on the talking points and the reality on the ground……but that’s precisely what makes him such a good little wind-up toy for his democrat betters…..
    LOL!

  65. Drago says:

    What was the dems jobs bill again?
    How did that turn out?
    LOL!
    Remember, sheriff li’l joey biden told us the stimulus bill had worked better than anyone could have dreamed……and yet somehow, nothing good happened!
    The lefties also told us that the stimulus bill would keep U-3 unemployment below 8%.
    Reality? Yeah, not so much.
    What was the lefties fall back position?
    LOL!
    They said, “gee, even we didn’t know how bad the economy was”….(even though Geithner was running the New York Fed!
    Even worse, Christine Romer just spoke last week publically about how obambi and his band of economic geniuses were informed as the actual state of the economy when obambi assumed control!
    LOL!
    Usually it takes more than a couple of days to render the latest obambi talking points moot….but not this time!!
    LOL!

  66. Drago says:

    You know, it’s going to be very interesting watching how obambi and his pals manipulate the numbers to try and tell us that unemployment is not getting worse under their moronic lefty leadership.
    I can scarecly wait to see what their next little trick is to try and make everyone feel better about obambi’s destruction of the American jobs machine.
    Before we’re done, the dems will have to rewrite the unemployment calculation rules to only include about 10 Americans in the workforce for their denominator variable…….
    LOL!

  67. TheCollective says:

    “Even worse, Christine Romer just spoke last week publically about how obambi and his band of economic geniuses were informed as the actual state of the economy when obambi assumed control!”
    You mean after Bush left? Why don’t you tell us more about the f******* mess the Worst President Ever left behind.
    All those Republicans, Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, etc., now so worried about the debt and how we’re going to paid it voted yes on every budget-busting measure Bush wanted. Tax Cuts during war? No problem. New entitlement? No problem. Fund the war off-budget? No problem. Raise the Debt Ceiling — 9 time — no problem?
    Fixing the Bush Great Recession is hard work, harder than most thought. It’s going to take yearl

  68. Drago says:

    Poor little collective!!
    I can see you are desperate to rerun the 2008 campaign.
    However, as 2010 proved, it’s not 2008 anymore!! You really should accept that you own the economy, though I doubt you have the strength to do so…LOL!
    Meanwhile, back to the incredibly evil lefty gun runner program in which the obambi admin made sure that mexican drug cartels had the weapons they needed to kill Americans, here’s the latest outrage:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/7/inquiry-of-weapons-smuggling-to-expand/
    snip “Meanwhile Thursday, Mexican police released a videotaped interview of Jesus Enrique Rejon Aguilar, in which the recently captured No. 3 leader of the Los Zetas drug cartel said “all the weapons” the Zetas use were “bought in the United States” and that “even the American government itself was selling the weapons.”
    Wow.
    And obambi is simultaneously trying to help a mexican national who raped and murdered an American citizen.
    But hey, she was an American, so in obambi’s book, she had it coming…..

  69. Drago says:

    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (: “We own the economy,” she said of her party.
    “We own the beginning of the turnaround, and we want to make sure that we continue that pace of recovery.”
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/we_own_the_economy_LNJTHYxR6QgqafIlJZkUkO
    How can you own the “beginning of the turnaround”, but then suddenly not “own” anything after?
    LOL!!
    This is really going to be fun to watch!
    Krauthammer said it best, whenever there is good news about the economy, the dems give obambi an “A”, whenever there is bad news about the economy, the dems give Bush an “F”!
    LOL!
    collective boy, did you really, really, deep in your heart, believe you continue to play that game and get away with it?
    LOL!
    I’ll bet you did!

  70. Drago says:

    Meanwhile, lefty and gang-loving Janice Hahn in CA-36 finds herself on the wrong end of an in-depth report by KTTV 11 in Los Angeles!
    This particular lefty genius tried the now standard and everyday lefty tactic of threatening the local news station with a cease and desist order for their clear and accurate reporting of her funneling cash to her gang-banging buddies.
    LOL!!

  71. Drago says:

    Man, what is it with the left that they spend so much time funneling cash and weapons to drug cartels and gangs?

  72. Drago says:

    What do you do if you’re a lefty and you don’t have the ability to funnel cash and/or weapons to gang bangers or drug cartels?
    Why, you get indicted for bombing things!
    http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/07/07/political-operative-charged-in-clayton-garage-bombing/
    Wow.
    What is it with the left?
    They sure are an angry and violent bunch, aren’t they?

  73. contact lens says:

    your word is passional and radical, which is maybe against most people’s thoughts. Obama has solved many problem people faces and have make the economy have a big race. and you should have a change in you attitude towards this opinion.

  74. Ragspierre says:

    Crips, has Soros out-sourced his trolling to China…?!?!?

  75. Ragspierre says:

    The Collectivist troll seems really “chronology challenged”…
    in addition to being rationally challenged.
    Why are our debt instruments no longer attractive to people around the globe…and here at home?
    Because–
    1) we are roaring up to the point at which we WILL default OR
    2) inflate our currency such that we cheat holders of ALL property…including holders of our debt instruments…out of the value they were promised.
    The U.S. is not a good risk as the Obamabanana Republic.
    Obama made it. Obama made it worse.

  76. Ragspierre says:

    “Hey, know who supports selling guns to terrorists? The NRA.”
    Now, there’s an interesting lie from another idiot.
    Put up a link to the NRA’s statement in support of selling guns to terrorists, liar.
    As IF guns are hard to come by for terrorists!
    Now, selling out best main battle tanks to the Muslim Brotherhood…???
    Obama made it worse.

  77. Ragspierre says:

    Steven Chu, the Energy Secretary who came into office saying “we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe”, has now offered up another soundbite for our times. On Friday, he defended the ban on Edison’s iconic incandescent in economic terms: We are taking away a choice that continues to let people waste their own money.
    So what? I waste my own money on all kinds of things. If I wanted Steven Chu to have a say in it, I’d get Parson Bloomberg to marry us at Gracie Mansion.
    More to the point, I wonder if Secretary Chu has any idea how stupid this argument sounds from an administration that has wasted more of other people’s money than anybody else on the planet. Secretary Chu and his colleagues took a trillion dollars of “stimulus” and, for all the stimulating it did, might as well have given it in large bills to Charlie Sheen to snort coke off his hookers’ bellies with. . . .
    The media are loyally doing their best for the Flatline Administration by insisting that the dead parrot economy is not deceased but merely resting for an “unexpectedly” longer period of time than had been expected. Nevertheless, having nothing to show for blowing a trillion dollars of other people’s money does at least make the point in a fairly spectacular way: the distinguishing feature of the west at twilight from Sacramento to Albany to Brussells to Athens is the failure of the Chu class — the People Who Know What’s Best For Us.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/271470/light-motif-mark-steyn
    Really. Read the whole thing.