Harry Reid Thinks Obama Is “Childish”

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July 14, 2011

If Reid thinks Cantor was being childish for walking out of a Hill meeting, it stands to reason that he must feel the same way about what Obama did yesterday. Right? As a Democrat, I'm sure he's all about fairness. Schumer is running his mouth, too. But then, he's still upset because his little protege Weiner got caught Tweeting his package to a college student. Now, that's childish, to say the least.

“We had negotiations going here in a room, S-219, a short jog from here, and he has walked out on the meetings with the vice president of the United States,” said the majority leader, recounting Cantor’s recent exit from the talks hosted by Vice President Biden. “It was childish.”

Reid's remarks followed a clash that occurred between Cantor and President Obama at the White House on Wednesday night that culminated in the president walking out of the room.

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Comments:
  1. Southern Values says:

    Thank God being caught in a diaper or seeking homosexual sex in a public bathroom is not childish. We wouldn’t want to see any hypocrisy here would we.

  2. TheCollective says:

    BFD. Who cares. So what if Obama got pissed and told off Cantor. It happens. The meeting was over, Obama will be back for the next one. Which isn’t what Cantor did, he didn’t just walk out of the meeting, he pulled out of the Debt Talks entirely.
    That’s why Cantor’s childish

  3. barfo says:

    Cantor’s lie that Obama left the room just shows how desperate Cantor has become.
    Normal Republicans and now Wall Street hate Cantor, all he got left on his side are the freaks and enemies who would cheer America’s economic collapse.

  4. Southern Values says:

    Barfo – i.e Teabaggers, you mean?

  5. Drago says:

    barfo the idiot: “Cantor’s lie that Obama left the room just shows how desperate Cantor has become.”
    Even the dems say obambi left the room barfo, they, like pelosi, are claiming that the meeting simply ended.
    LOL!
    Barfo is the worst lefty troll evah! He can’t even get his talking points straight!
    Poor barfo.
    BTW, did you happen to catch the fact the BLS had to revise UPWARD (“unexpectedly”, no doubt), the weekly unemployment claims number from 2 weeks ago to 427,000?
    Yep.
    Anyone want to take a bet on how long last weeks BLS reported weekly unemployment claims number remains at 405,000?
    Not to worry though!
    Remember, barfo told us the economy was “booming”.
    LOL!
    Barfo actually said that….right after he told us there was no increase in food or energy prices!
    Hey barfo, if you’re going to simply lie outright to defend your god king, why don’t you go all the way! Tell us that obambi “saved or created” eleventeen gajillion jobs and the unemployment rate is 1.2% and obambi and his party’s 4 year total control of congress gave us reduced deficits!
    LOL!!

  6. Drago says:

    Ouch!
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/148487/Republican-Candidate-Extends-Lead-Obama.aspx
    That’s registered voters folks, not even likely voters!

  7. Drago says:

    Harry Reid Thinks Obama Is “Childish”
    Harry Reid has long been impressed with the way obambi can seamlessly move into and out of “negro dialect”.
    The leader of the Senate Dems!
    It almost makes me wonder why some dem hasn’t called obambi “clean and articulate”…..oops! Too late!

  8. barfo says:

    Too bad the Republicans don’t have anyone named “generic” to run.
    Against all current and likely Republican candidates, Obama has comfortable leads.
    The best Republican candidate is…Mitt Romney.
    Ouch!

  9. Drago says:

    Everyone already knows what obambi’s little Drama 101 performance was all about.
    He is simply desperate to get the debt limit raised and then not again until after Nov of 2012.
    Transparent.
    And he’s willing to sacrifice whatever he has to for this short term political gain.
    Duh.
    It’s all about him baby.
    And, oh yeah, if you’re a reporter, don’t you dare shout out a question at our delicate diversity hire god king!
    LOL!!
    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0711/shout_of_bounds_729191ad-6922-4221-8711-77a68d3802df.html
    He’s quite the delicate flower isn’t he? Why, if I didn’t know better, I’d swear it was actually a SEAL Team member who killed bin laden, not our blood soaked hyper-warrior in the White House!
    LOL!!

  10. Southern Values says:

    That’s right Drago – “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”
    LOL
    I’m so clever
    LOL

  11. itsMike2Cents says:

    “He’s quite the delicate flower isn’t he?”
    Ha…talk about not getting your talking points right…
    Drago, you’re all over the place.
    Why not just share what you actually think.
    I suppose you see it that Cantor and Boehner are playing this just perfectly?
    And that you admire McConnell’s rank and admitted political calculus?
    Or maybe you’re on the Palin/Cain/Perry hamster wheel?
    We know how you feel about Obama, and we get how much that makes you enjoy and champion any bad economic news.
    But all that aside…what are you for here?
    Maybe you’re just one of the guys with the bats walkin’ around saying ‘nice economy you have here (spit)…sure would be a shame if something happened to it’.

  12. Nishner says:

    Yeah, the Obama campaign is really hurting:
    President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign announced Wednesday morning that it raised $86 million in the second quarter of 2011, nearly three times more than Mitt Romney, the closest Republican contender.
    Funny, no guy named Generic in this poll:
    a. Barack Obama 47% Mitt Romney 42%
    b. Barack Obama 48% Mike Huckabee 43%
    c. Barack Obama 50% Newt Gingrich 39%
    d. Barack Obama 47% Tim Pawlenty 33%
    e. Barack Obama 53% Sarah Palin 38%
    ******
    Gender: Women are propelling Obama to his leads. He’s up by double-digits against every ’12 Republican candidate.
    Maybe that Republican War on Women isn’t such a smart thing.
    f. Barack Obama 47% Herman Cain 29%

  13. “Even the dems say obambi left the room barfo, they, like pelosi, are claiming that the meeting simply ended.”
    Well, when the GodKing leaves, the meeting is over. It would be lése-majeste to continue in his absence.
    Nishner — Maybe that Nineteenth Amendment wasn’t such a smart thing. Women watch The View. That should be a franchise-denier right there.

  14. itsMike2Cents says:

    Nishner -
    You should know by now that only stats, poll #s, etc. unfavorable to Obama are welcome here.
    These guys KNOW that Palin would easily coast to victory and that Cain is a serious contender.
    And that at yesterday’s meeting Obama flipped over the table, angrily shoved Cantor after grabbing his Nintendo 3DS, and stormed out screaming something about peas, and then ran up to the White House tower all hunched over and began ceaselessly ringing a large bell.

  15. Charlotte says:

    Women are voting for Obummer because he espouses the line that government will take care of you even when you make lousy decisions like having babies [without fathers present except during the conception] from the age of 14 to collect welfare, or not pursuing an education, or marrying a violent man, yada, yada, yada. The government will also give you the hard working taxpayer’s money to kill your baby in the womb if you so choose. (obummercare)
    Abortion stats indicate that women are aborting female babies much more than male babies. May not have to worry about women voting in blocks ‘coz there won’t be very many of them in the future, Mr. Mcenroe. Wonder if the feminazis realize this yet?
    Your man, the POTUS, nish & barfo, may have the lead now over any person running.
    Let’s see how it looks next summer when unemployment will be even higher, along with inflation. To quote James Carville…it’s the economy, stupid.
    5.00 a gallon gas and 15% inflation will not get Obummer re-elected. Period. This, along with his patronizing attitude while insulting the American public as being stupid, will signal the END of this regime. Can’t come soon enough.

  16. Drago says:

    mikey: “I suppose you see it that Cantor and Boehner are playing this just perfectly?”
    Uh, as usual, you’re wrong. You are always so anxious to put words in my mouth that you never have time to actually ask and absorb what I say.
    Very nishner-like of you!
    mikey: “And that you admire McConnell’s rank and admitted political calculus?”
    LOL!
    Uh, double no! I think what McConnell suggested was ridiculous! Just because obambi keeps abdicating responsibility for providing specifics about his plans does not justify McConnell floating a transparently moronic “cover your butt” proposal that would give obambi the power to raise the debt ceiling (barring a congressional override).
    Why didn’t you just ask?
    mikey: “Or maybe you’re on the Palin/Cain/Perry hamster wheel?”
    LOL!
    What does that even mean?
    mikey: “We know how you feel about Obama, and we get how much that makes you enjoy and champion any bad economic news.”
    I’m absolutely fascinated how, now that obambi is the president, the left has basically labeled as “off limits” any discussion of the results of obambi’s policies.
    mikey, when did this very very precious and special “thou shalt not mention economic facts if those facts paint a negative picture of the competence of a democrat president” actually get put into place?
    I’m guessing it was right about January of 2009.
    mikey: “But all that aside…what are you for here?”
    Hmmmmm, I know this will seem very “tricky” to you, so I’ll go slow.
    I come to here, when I’m able, to help draw attention to the clear and apparent hypocrisy of the lefties, such as yourself, as well as to draw attention to the inevitable consequences of left-wing economic policies being espoused by and implemented by the democrats.
    If you had paid attention, your first clue that my purpose is as listed above by the fact that it’s what I actually write here.
    I can see how you might be confused.
    mikey: “Maybe you’re just one of the guys with the bats walkin’ around saying ‘nice economy you have here (spit)…sure would be a shame if something happened to it’”
    And there you have another crystal clear projection from a lefty onto a conservative of the very tactics the left has been employing for years.
    Most notably obambi’s now infamous meeting with the bankers as well as his “be a shame if something happened to you” tactics that resulted in corporate debt holders of Chrysler and GM being forced to give up their equity so obambi could give 2 car companies to his union cronies.
    LOL!!

  17. Southern Values says:

    Quinnipiac University Polling Institute – released JULY 14, 2011
    American voters disapprove 56 – 38 percent of the way President Barack Obama is handling the economy, but by 45 – 38 percent they trust the president more than congressional Republicans to handle the economy, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.
    The country is in a recession, 71 percent of American voters say, but by 54 – 27 percent they blame former President George W. Bush more than President Obama.
    The president gets a 47 – 46 percent job approval rating, unchanged from the June 9 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University. That tops a 64 – 28 percent disapproval for Democrats in Congress and a 65 – 26 percent disapproval for Republicans. Obama outscores congressional Republicans on several points in the def
    icit reduction battle:
    - Voters will blame Republicans over Obama 48 – 34 percent if the debt limit is not raised;
    - Voters say 67 – 25 percent that an agreement to raise the debt ceiling should include tax hikes for the wealthy and corporations, not just spending cuts;
    - Voters say 45 – 37 percent that Obama’s proposals to raise revenues are “closing loopholes,” rather than “tax hikes”;
    Yeah – you Patriots don’t live in a bubble.

  18. Drago says:

    mikey: “You should know by now that only stats, poll #s, etc. unfavorable to Obama are welcome here.”
    Nonsense.
    What you need to understand is that, unlike the lefties who post on this blog (interesting how it is that lefties can post here, but conservatives are not welcome on the lefty borg blog sites, eh?), many of us are quite conversant in the myriad of statistical techniques and underlying theory.
    Thus, when I see a poll, I immediately look at some key variables: Adults/registered voters/likely voters; party affiliation breakdown; wording of the questions, etc.
    I’m always amused when I see a poll touting obambi’s “universally recognized wonderfulness” and I see that it’s of adults only, with a hilariously skewed sample weighted insanely toward the dems, especially after the Nov 2010 elections where republicans won the most sweeping nationwide victory since the 1920′s.
    Now, having said that, there have been a sufficient number of polls taken by any number of reputable and not so reputable sources.
    Having observed those over the past 2 years as well as my own anecdotal “evidence”, I think it’s pretty fair to say that regardless of how bad the economy gets, obambi’s “baseline support” will not go below 43%, even in a worse case scenario.
    The presidency is a very powerful office and a billion in cash won’t hurt either!
    Especially if you continue to “accidently” turn off all those pesky “credit card check” controls!
    LOL!!
    Whoever the republican is, regardless of their base support, it ain’t easy knocking off a sitting president. Though, ironically, we’ve had our share of “rejection” in the last 30 years or so, haven’t we? What is it, 3wins 2 losses for the incumbent since 1980?

  19. Southern Values says:

    Charlotte – you’re the best reason I could think of to support abortion. Your so stupid, I really hope you don’t breed.

  20. Trial Lawyer says:

    Oh dear, it seems that the more the Kenyan makes his case, the more the American people (well, not Real Americans probably) are with him: http://people-press.org/2011/07/14/the-debt-ceiling-showdown-%E2%80%93-where-the-public-stands/
    Which is why McConnell and Boehner are scrambling to find the escape hatch.

  21. Drago says:

    For instance, southern values helpfully pops up with a Quinnipiac poll which proves my point.
    This quinnipaic poll results look quite different than the results of most other polls.
    Sooooo, the inquiring mind wonders, hey, what kind of “voters” did they sample and what are the poll internals.
    The first thing you notice is that quinnipiace doesn’t tell you any of that.
    Most interesting, and you should pay attention southern values (assuming you can as opposed to just cuttin’ and pastin’ from media matters etc) is that quinnipiac uses the interesting term “voters”.
    “voters”
    They don’t say “registered voters”, or “likely voters”, or “adults”, which is what all reputable polling organizations use.
    It makes one wonder why?
    One obvious conclusion might be that quinnipiac wants to give you the impression this is a poll of registered voters, but in reality it’s probably a poll of adults.
    Further, no breakdown is given, so we can’t see what the poll-ees self-identify as, or how any “leaners” might have been “pushed”, etc.
    Further, of those respondees, WHERE (states) did those respondees respond from? It makes a difference.
    It’s been quite common for many pollsters on the left (not all, of course, and especially not as you get close to an election since they want to retain some credibility) to oversample heavily blue states.
    Just sayin’.
    Naturally, none of this would occur to southern values because, lets face it, he/she probably isn’t that bright.
    Note: I kept this discussion at a very “conversational” level.

  22. Drago says:

    Most importantly, the single poll-tested question which most highly correlates (sorry for using such a big word for you southern values) with voting results for presidential elections is the oft cited and universally recognized “right track/wrong track” numbers.
    Further, for closely estimating a potential actual vote, you would want to use Likely Voters, (or as dems refer to them on the republican side: wealthy corporate jet owners who eat children and puppies)
    Rasmussen uses a consistent methodology and makes it’s internals available and all media outlets have platinum accounts so they can review “real results”.
    In this poll, only 25% think the US is on the right track.
    That one number alone is enough to keep obambi up at night.
    The fact that unemployment is so high is hardly something which bothers him.
    But you start getting close to him losing his job and that fellow will suddenly develop quite the detail-oriented focus!
    LOL

  23. Drago says:

    Moron: “Which is why McConnell and Boehner are scrambling to find the escape hatch.”
    LOL!!
    They’re ALL trying to find an escape hatch!!
    obambi is scrambling as hard as his feet can carry him (when he’s not teeing off, of course) to make sure that he doesn’t have to fact another debt ceiling increase until after Nov of 2012.
    If this was such a “winner” for him, why wouldn’t he want to do this over and over again before then?
    LOL!!
    I realize this type of cognitive dissonance is common on the left
    For Boehner and McConnell, they know they are right on the substance, but they still wake up nights in cold sweats thinking about 1995 and trying every trick in the book to avoid looking like the “bad guys”.
    The sad news for them (and my side in general), is that a majority of people are going to blame the republicans if the debt ceiling increase is not agreed to.
    That’s just the inside the beltway thinking on the part of the guys who’ve been there a long time.
    You’ve got the tea party guys on my side saying we’ll put your head on a pike if you raise taxes.
    You’ve got the lefty caucus on your side saying we’ll put your head on a pike if you dare to address in any way entitlement reform.
    duh.
    It has always been this way.
    What’s different this time is we are already at $14.5+ trillion in debt and if we don’t get a handle on it now, it’s not really going to matter too much who’s President next….since there won’t be any money left.
    We can already see how this much debt is strangling easy credit for business startups and how the regulatory uncertainty is keeping SME (small and medium sized enterprises) from hiring.
    The big boys never do much hiring coming out of a recession.

  24. itsMike2Cents says:

    Drago -
    A shorter version of your polling analysis might read -
    Poll results favorable to Obama – questionable tactics/distrust.
    Poll results unfavorable to Obama – unquestionable integrity/fully reliable/link to repeatedly.
    As far as Obama, last poll that mattered was in November of 2008…next one in November of 2012.
    In the interim…well, it’s the interim.

  25. Nishner says:

    If you’re such a student of polling methods, perhaps you can explain why Rasmussen performed so poorly last election cycle.

  26. Trial Lawyer says:

    “obambi is scrambling as hard as his feet can carry him (when he’s not teeing off, of course) to make sure that he doesn’t have to fact another debt ceiling increase until after Nov of 2012.
    If this was such a “winner” for him, why wouldn’t he want to do this over and over again before then?”
    Because of the cost of constantly f*cking with the full-faith-and-credit of the United States, sh*t for brains. Plus the distraction – which it undoubtedly is. But there will be no “winners” in this. Only those who lose less. Obama, McConnell, and Boehner know that Obama will lose less. They’ve known it the whole time. But the Teabillies made them play this stupid game of brinksmanship. Again, Obama warned them about this in 2009. They did not listen; they did not learn.
    “It has always been this way.”
    Or, more accurately, it has NEVER been this way re the debt ceiling. The party in power always raises it with the help of the party out of power to the extent that help is needed. Both sides get to do their ceremonial squawking, and the party in power lets a few people say “no.”

  27. Ragspierre says:

    When was the deficit this high before?
    When were we buying 70%+ of our own bonds?
    When were our creditor nations telling us to cut back our spending?
    When were international agencies like the IMF…and freaking everyone with an once of economic sense…telling us our path was unsustainable?
    Only open minds not utterly deluded will answer those questions.

  28. Drago says:

    This just in, crazy lefties at NBC are all in a tizzy over the reduction of their psychotherapy benefits now that those crazy conservatives running Comcast (not really conservative, but since they aren’t marxists, you know how the left will classify them!)
    You know, considering that MSNBC has such noted journalistic and commentary luminaries as Ed Schultz and Lawrence O’Donnell, not to mention spittle-boy Mathews, that reduction in benefits is really going to “bite”!
    LOL!

  29. Drago says:

    Failed Trial Lawyer: “Because of the cost of constantly f*cking with the full-faith-and-credit of the United States, sh*t for brains.”
    LOL!!
    You mean like in 2006 when obambi voted against raising the debt ceiling?
    Was obambi “f*cking with the full-faith-and-credit of the United States, sh*t for brains”?
    LOL!
    BTW moron, unlike your lefty pals, we are all well aware that Government receipts are fully sufficient to pay for our debt servicing, defense budget, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. After that, it’s up for grabs.
    So, it’s nice to see you pounding the table since it’s quite clear you do not have the facts on your side!
    LOL!!
    sh*t for brains!

  30. Drago says:

    In other stories from the “horrible antics of those right wing provacateurs”, Marion Barry’s son has been arrested for…..wait for it……(no guessing now!!)……PCP possession.
    Of course, if you’re mikey, your immediate response is to try and change the subject to why I even mentioned this topic (while strongly implying it’s more my fault than Barry’s son).
    Once that tactic is played out, the left will begin their full court press to determine which conservative “hacked” into Barry’s son’s life to plant that PCP on him.
    I anxiously await barfo’s breathless report as to the “certainty of right wing perfidy” in this matter……..
    LOL

  31. Drago says:

    Even that right wing rag the Washington Post isn’t buying obambi’s threat to withhold payments to seniors in the event of debt levels reaching the “ceiling”: “http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/can-president-obama-keep-paying-social-security-benefits-even-if-the-debt-ceiling-is-reached/2011/07/12/gIQA9myRBI_blog.html

  32. Ragspierre says:

    “As far as Obama, last poll that mattered was in November of 2008…next one in November of 2012.”
    Now, THAT was the DELUSION OF THE DAY (and boy, there have been some tough contenders).
    You might WANT to forget 2010, mikey. It still happened.
    And, yes, it was in the interim.
    And, yes, Americans DEPLORE the state of the nation under Obama.
    You read that Muslims rate us LOWER than under Bush, right?
    Obama made it worse.

  33. Drago says:

    Looks like Jake Tapper over at ABC isn’t fooled by Failed Trial Lawyer moron and obambi’s debt ceiling default crisis vs short term raising of the debt ceiling:
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/07/which-is-worse-default-or-voting-to-raise-the-debt-ceiling-again-in-2012-todays-qs-for-os-wh-7142011.html
    It’s clear from Carney’s response on behalf of our god king that obambi is more than happy to sacrifice the US’s financial status for a short term political gain.
    But hey, what else did you expect?

  34. Drago says:

    mikey: “A shorter version of your polling analysis might read -
    Poll results favorable to Obama – questionable tactics/distrust.
    Poll results unfavorable to Obama – unquestionable integrity/fully reliable/link to repeatedly”
    LOL!!
    My “rules” for analysis can be applied to any poll from any source.
    Of course, you, as a lefty, do not like that sort of formulation since it does not explicitly create a 2-tiered set of rules, one for you on the left, and one for the hated right wing!!
    LOL!
    Shorter mikey: I don’t like objective standards!!!
    To which I would reply: no kidding mikey, no kidding!
    LOL!

  35. Ragspierre says:

    Even shorter mikey: huh? math?

  36. Drago says:

    Here’s a little link for my earlier comment regarding what government bills could be paid if the debt ceiling is not raised (again from that right wing rag the Money magazine (CNN)):
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/13/news/economy/debt_ceiling_fallout/
    But again, as always with the left, when you talk about cuts, every bureaucrat becomes a policeman, fire fighter or teacher and the first place obambi talks about folks not getting their checks is Social Security.
    Not the buraucrats at the department of the Interior, not the remaining funds for all those non-existent (but catnip to lefties) “shovel ready” projects!
    Same old same old.

  37. Drago says:

    mikey: “As far as Obama, last poll that mattered was in November of 2008…next one in November of 2012.”
    Shorter mikey: “Can’t we please please please just pretend that 2009/2010/2011 never happened?”
    Campaign 2008 buttons for all my lefty pals!!

  38. Ragspierre says:

    On the microcosmic scale…
    The Deemocrat/Collectivist in Minna SOOOta just struck the flag, ending his shut-down of that state.
    “If this gets resolved and gets Minnesota back to work in the next few days, then it doesn’t matter what people say about me,” Dayton said.
    Except for that damned video tape that never goes away during campaign season…

  39. Nishner says:

    Senator Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., on Wednesday lamented his party’s having made such “a big deal” about its opposition to raising the debt ceiling, and conceded that now Republicans were struggling to walk back their statements.
    “Our problem is we made a big deal about this for three months,” said Graham of the debt limit debate, according to Politico. “How many Republicans have been on TV saying, ‘I’m not going to raise the debt limit’? You know, Mitch [McConnell] says, ‘I’m not going to raise the debt limit unless we talk about Medicare.’ And I’ve said I’m not going to raise the debt limit until we do something about spending and entitlements.’”
    Graham says now Republicans should have tempered their language early on.
    “We shouldn’t have said that if we didn’t mean it… We’ve got nobody to blame but ourselves,” Graham told reporters.
    Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20079442-503544.html#ixzz1S7bUGoK7
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20079442-503544.html#ixzz1S7bDEOHo

  40. Drago says:

    nish quoting Graham: “”We shouldn’t have said that if we didn’t mean it… We’ve got nobody to blame but ourselves,” Graham told reporters.
    Agreed.
    You shouldn’t say it if you didn’t mean it.
    You know, kind of like closing GITMO, or saying you would never extend the tax rates from the Bush Presidency, or that you wouldn’t use signing statements, or dems in congress voting for Pay/Go and then laughing as they ignored it.
    Stuff like that.

  41. Drago says:

    Speaking of saying “stuff when you don’t really mean it”, here’s a not so oldy but goody from way back in 2006:
    “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

  42. Ragspierre says:

    nishferatu quotes the paltroon Lindsay “Pantaloons” Graham to conservatives as though that is supposed to mean any FLUCKING thing…
    You could as well quote crazy Nanny Pelosi.

  43. Nishner says:

    Many of you have talked about the need to pay down our national debt. I listened, and I agree. We owe it to our children and our grandchildren to act now, and I hope you will join me to pay down $2 trillion in debt during the next 10 years. At the end of those 10 years, we will have paid down all the debt that is available to retire. That is more debt repaid more quickly than has ever been repaid by any nation at any time in history.
    George W. Bush
    How’d that work out?
    ***
    The full consequences of a default — or even the serious prospect of default — by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantial effects on the domestic financial markets and the value of the dollar in exchange markets. The Nation can ill afford to allow such a result. The risks, the costs, the disruptions, and the incalculable damage lead me to but one conclusion: the Senate must pass this legislation before the Congress adjourns.
    Ronald Reagan
    ***
    Debt Limit Under George W. Bush. That promise to pay off the deficit seems to have not worked so well.
    June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote “yea”, Kyl votes “nay.”
    May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion. All four approve.
    *** Same day they passed tax cuts for the wealthy. Fiscal Conservatives my ass.
    November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion. All four approve.
    March 2006: Congress approves a $781 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.965 trillion. All four approve.
    September 2007: Congress approves an $850 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $9.815 trillion. All four approve.

  44. Ragspierre says:

    Barachah Hussain Obama promised to reduce the deficit by HALF in his term.
    How’s that working out…???

  45. gary gulrud says:

    Awww, poor little Magic, 39% of adults prefer him, to 47% wanting any breathing Repugnant.

  46. Drago says:

    Poor poor nish.
    You can just see her clicking her heels together and whispering intently “there’s no place like 2008, there’s no place like 2008…..”
    LOL

  47. Drago says:

    Maybe nish can explain why obambi’s “budget” proposal from last February projected deficits far in excess of $1 Trillion for as far as the eye can see and why that was okey-dokey with her?
    LOL
    Further, perhaps nish can explain why obambi’s “budget” purposely used a 12-year projection which they already knew the CBO would refuse to score since only 10 year projections are scored?
    Gee, it’s almost like obambi didn’t want the CBO to score his “budget” proposal! LOL!
    “courage”
    “leadership”
    Then, as if on cue, the dems in the Senate realized how ridiculous obambi’s fake “budget” was and not a single solitary dem in the Senate voted for that “joke on paper”.
    It was defeated 97-0.
    But hey, it was only 97-0. So take heart nish, it might have been 98-0. Now that would have been something!!
    LOL!!
    I’m not even going to bother addressing obambi’s little budget “mulligan” he offered up via a pathetic speech which his minions and lackey’s claimed was a budget!!!
    LOL!!
    I just loved the CBO directors response to that total abdication of responsibility and accountability: “We don’t score speeches….”
    LOL!
    BTW nish, did you know that obambi voted for the budgets of 2007 and 2008 and he voted for TARP as well!
    So don’t you find it a little odd that obambi walked into the presidency and said “hey, I just found this stuff!!….”
    Just another abdication of responsibility for his royal highness.

  48. Drago says:

    BTW, we’re still waiting to hear 1 single entitlement reform proposal that the dems have formally offered in some shape manner or form (even verbal support by dem leadership).
    Don’t worry. We won’t be hanging around waiting for a response.
    We know you lefties are far to busy sabotaging the jobs engine that used to be America before you got your grubby hands around it again.
    And, as if on cue, obambi-ites have a brand new idea to screw over businesses (particularly small businesses):
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/us/politics/13tax.html?_r=3
    A brand new obambi proposal to change the rules on businesses (particularly small businesses) in order to crush them.
    Why does obambi hate small businesses?
    …..that’s a trick question!!
    Obambi hates all businesses….that are not controlled by the government (crony capitalism) or by his union thug pals (Chrysler/GM).

  49. Nishner says:

    How come Bush financed the war Off-budget?
    How come Bush, for the first in the nation’s history, cut taxes during a war?
    How come for all the BS you spout, the majority of American’s’ still blame Bush for the mess we’re in, not Obama?
    How come TeaTards never want to admit that Bush left behind the biggest pile of economic crap since Hoover left office?
    How come House Republicans are more interested in defunding Planned Parenthood than doing anything to help the economy?
    How come TeaTards think defeating the Debt Ceiling, throwing the country into default, is someone going to make our economy better?
    How come Republicans think it’s more important to defend the tax giveaways to millionaires / billionaires — corporate jets, Hedge fund managers taxation, then actually trying to fix the mess we’re in?
    Abdication of responsibility? What do you call it when “Fiscal Conservatives” continually run up deficits.
    The ONLY time Republicans are interested in cutting the budget is when a Democrat is in office. If there’s a Republican running the country, it’s blow out the budget. Reagan did it, Bush 1 did it, Bush 2 did it. Clinton balanced the budget.
    REAL Fiscal Conservatives pay for what they buy.

  50. Ragspierre says:

    I’m not the world’s greatest poker player, but I thought the point of bluffing was not to tell the other players that one was bluffing? “Don’t call my bluff” seems a plea for mercy, not a threat, as in, Don’t expose the fact that I have no cards to play.
    –Victor Davis Hansen

  51. Ragspierre says:

    “How come Republicans think it’s more important to defend the tax giveaways to millionaires / billionaires — corporate jets”
    Please, nish, I thought even you were smarter than to fall into that class-warfare crap.
    All Obama is talking about is a change in the RATE of depreciation on a private jet.
    NOT WHETHER it will be depreciated…but whether it will depreciate over 5 or 7 years.
    People…relying on an OBAMA passed law…bought jets on certain economics. Now he wants to change them.
    The difference is…perhaps…a MINUTE worth of interest on the national debt.
    But the real value is in demagoguery…and getting idiots like you to break over in your usual “do me” position.
    Check it out.

  52. Ragspierre says:

    “How come Bush, for the first in the nation’s history, cut taxes during a war?”
    A question by an historic idiot. Not that you are alone, nish. All your troll fellows are idiots, too.
    Here’s the answer: from Vietnam to the first Gulf War, we enjoyed a revolution in warfare.
    Compared to every war America fought prior, our troop formations now are TINY.
    Look at WWII men in the combat arms. The numbers were immense, because that is how wars were fought to that point.
    Now, we fight with relatively small, extremely lethal formations, and we use a completely different war-fighting doctrine. You may not like it, but there is your answer.
    BTW, Bush did not cut taxes. He did not fund the war.
    Congress does those things…by law.

  53. Ragspierre says:

    CHICAGO (CBS) – North suburban Republican Congressman Joe Walsh has a new YouTube video on his website – where he tells President Barack Obama to “quit lying” about the impact of not raising the national debt ceiling by Aug. 2.
    In a nearly three-minute video released Wednesday, Walsh says, “President Obama, quit lying.” He claims there is plenty of money to pay federal debts and cover the costs of Social Security benefits, even if the debt ceiling isn’t raised by the deadline.
    “Have you no shame, sir?” Walsh asks in the video, telling Obama to “show some leadership for once.”
    No. He has no shame. He’s willing to say, “Raise taxes, or granny gets it”. And he signaled he is willing to very deliberately and cynically shoot his hostages.
    “Economic terrorism does not work”, huh. Tell President Jell-o.

  54. Ragspierre says:

    I was gobsmacked by this quote in a POLITICO story about Obama’s walkout from a debt ceiling negotiation:
    On exiting the room, Obama said that “this confirms the totality of what the American people already believe” about Washington, according to a Democratic official familiar with the negotiations, and that officials are “too focused on positioning and political posturing” to make difficult choices.
    That line could be the summary of the Obama presidency to this point. Think Afghanistan for instance. Remember this:
    “The withdrawal has created deep divisions in Washington. The defence secretary, Robert Gates, argued for a modest reduction – at one point as low as 2,000 – citing the advice of US commanders in Afghanistan that they need to protect gains made during the winter against the Taliban.
    But senior White House staff,
    >>>conscious that the president has an election to fight next year,<<<
    argued in favour of a reduction that would send a signal to the US public that an end to the war is in sight.”
    –Bruce McQuain
    For Obama, EVERYTHING is politics. Show me an instance where that rule has an exception.

  55. BR says:

    With so many soshie trolls spending all their time on this site, you’ve got to wonder who’s out doing the community organizing? Charlotte nailed it down- with his credit card cut canceled, ‘No-drama Obama’ is panicking. The bread and circuses are coming to an end, and the mob will be out in the streets by election time.

  56. K~Bob says:

    Obama’s Indian Name:
    Walks Out When The Going Gets Tough

  57. JASON says:

    Eric Cantor should resign. He is drunk on all the weird, far-right power, and it won’t get him anywhere in REAL AMERICA. It’s actually very brazen what he is doing, refusing any tax hike… he is suggesting to the American people that it is more important to protect special interests than reduce the deficit.
    Only Barack Obama is realistic about reducing the deficit. All of these congressional tools are just interested in impressing Grover Norquist.

  58. Ragspierre says:

    President Obama is demanding a big long-term budget deal. He won’t sign anything less, he warns, asking, “If not now, when?”
    How about last December, when he ignored his own debt commission’s recommendations? How about February, when he presented a budget that increases debt by $10 trillion over the next decade? How about April, when he sought a debt-ceiling increase with zero debt reduction attached?
    All of a sudden he’s a born-again budget balancer prepared to bravely take on his own party by making deep cuts in entitlements. Really? Name one. He’s been saying forever that he’s prepared to discuss, engage, converse about entitlement cuts. But never once has he publicly proposed a single structural change to any entitlement.
    Hasn’t the White House leaked that he’s prepared to raise the Medicare age or change the cost-of-living calculation?
    Anonymous talk is cheap. Leaks are designed to manipulate. Offers are floated and disappear.
    Say it, Mr. President. Give us one single structural change in entitlements. In public.
    ———————————————————
    He won’t, of course. It is all a rope-a-dope, with the U.S. economy…and economic freedom…cast in the role of dope.
    We know Obama is a liar. Collectivists are liars. Hell, he lied about his own mother’s death. And pretty much every other thing he has said is a lie.
    Even his myrmidons here cannot deny the man’s character…in any occasional rational moment they enjoy…they simply excuse it.
    The rest of America does not.

  59. Ragspierre says:

    We oppose an increase in the federal debt limit unless three common-sense conditions are met: substantial cuts in spending; enforceable spending caps to put the country on a path to a balanced budget; and congressional passage of a balanced-budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution. That amendment should include a requirement for a congressional supermajority to approve any increases in taxes.
    –Rick Perry and Nikki Haley
    Who could oppose those?

  60. itsMike2Cents says:

    “Shorter mikey: I don’t like objective standards!!!”
    Ha.
    Drago…you’re objective as much as Michael Moore is a centrist.
    As for your 2010 ‘poll’…it’s sill President Barack Obama.
    And via McConnell etc., it seems repubs are gonna throw in the towel as far as using any of the capital that actually gained from the midterms.
    Go team!
    Right?
    Ha.

  61. gary gulrud says:

    Let’s be clear. We need a Debt Ceiling raise because Dick is capable of Defaulting in a fit of pique.
    We aren’t going to get real cuts, dollar for dollar, in current spending until Schlong exits.
    But why not make him swing?

  62. itsMike2Cents says:

    “Here’s the answer: from Vietnam to the first Gulf War, we enjoyed a revolution in warfare.
    Compared to every war America fought prior, our troop formations now are TINY.”
    Gawd, Ragspierre…that is so not the answer.
    An almost admirable attempt, that you’d walk that far out on a branch.

  63. Ragspierre says:

    Shorter mikey: I hate “objective standard” so much, I’ll shift to to “personal”.
    Wot an idiot.

  64. Ragspierre says:

    “Gawd, Ragspierre…that is so not the answer.
    An almost admirable attempt, that you’d walk that far out on a branch.”
    Shorter mikey: huh? wha? formation?

  65. Charlotte says:

    Readers may find this link interesting….
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/07/why-2012-shaping-anybody-obama-election
    If gas is 5 dollars a gallon and unemployment is at 15% next summer this POTUS will not be re-elected.
    Sorry, libs…NOT.

  66. Ragspierre says:

    January 2009:
    President-elect Barack Obama pledged yesterday to shape a new Social Security and Medicare “bargain” with the American people, saying that the nation’s long-term economic recovery cannot be attained unless the government finally gets control over its most costly entitlement programs.
    That discussion will begin next month, Obama said, when he convenes a “fiscal responsibility summit” before delivering his first budget to Congress. He said his administration will begin confronting the issues of entitlement reform and long-term budget deficits soon after it jump-starts job growth and the stock market.
    “What we have done is kicked this can down the road. We are now at the end of the road and are not in a position to kick it any further,” he said. “We have to signal seriousness in this by making sure some of the hard decisions are made under my watch, not someone else’s.”
    ————————————————–
    So, that was a PROMISE by the MEEEEsiah.
    Huh…
    LOVE those Obama quotes….!!!!!

  67. gary gulrud says:

    I like Bachmann Ok, but she has yet to show she can
    1). Make a shot,
    2). Field dress,
    3). Butcher.

  68. Ashamed to be associated with you all says:

    Forget Canto / Obama. I am amazed how childish these comments are. Do you guys really feel productive and proud of yourselves. If you all are voters, we deserve any awful president (Dem OR Rep) we elect next election. I bet when you hit the submit button you feel good about your contribution, right? As for me, I feel ashamed that I was even compelled to write this. Grow up and start working together…. every one of you is a misled idiot – from both sides.

  69. SacTownMan says:

    I feel productive and proud of myself!!
    Oh, and go stuff your phony outrage up your butt!!
    Childish enough for you?

  70. Ragspierre says:

    “As for me, I feel ashamed that I was even compelled to write this.”
    I agree. Never do it again.
    We will forgive you for not condescending to us again.

  71. So don’t you find it a little odd that obambi walked into the presidency

  72. Ragspierre says:

    President Jell-o lied about 80% of Americans favoring a tax increase.
    But for all you idiot Collectivists out there…what are you waiting for?
    Get those checks written and in the mail, baby…!!!!

  73. Baraka says:

    Nishner and all the other lefties did yo ujust wish someone would kill Charlotte?

  74. Baraka says:

    you just*

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