Romney and Pawlenty Channel Palin With Latest Campaign Moves

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May 27, 2011

Yesterday, Mitt Romney sent left-over pizza to Obama's Chicago HQ. Meanwhile, Tim Pawlenty Tweeted Barack Obama.

@BarackObama sorry to interrupt the European pub crawl, but what was your Medicare plan?

The moves are fun and fine; I'm not looking to criticize either man, nor suggest they somehow directly ripped off Palin. But what happened to the whole, respect the office deal we always get from the GOP, or the pathetically weak I'll resign if McCain goes directly after Barack Obama times, thanks to McKinnon, the GOP experienced in 2008?

Sure, Obama's numbers and time in office play some minor role in the thinking behind these moves – and they are political moves, but we never saw confrontational tactics like this from the incredibly boring GOP of old. Whether she runs or not, Sarah Palin has already changed GOP politics with her confrontational approach, along with the way the base has previously responded to it.

What remains to be seen is if Pawlenty and Romney have the genuine fire in the belly it takes to do such things and mean them when it counts, or if they simply hired some new advisers who told them it might be smart to do as a tactic.

Still, there should be no confusion as to who led the way nationally in challenging Obama, even when it, perhaps, was not fashionable to do so. Just as with Stephen K. Bannon's soon to be released Palin-based movie, The Undefeated, which came from an idea of Sarah Palin's, she is contemporary, innovative and changing GOP communications single-handedly, whether the establishment will want to admit it, or not. That, my friends, is leadership.

Two quick additional points. Individuals like Michelle Bachmann and Herman Cain are also originals in my view, part of a new rising tide of politicians fueled by the Tea Party mindset, which both have contributed too, significantly. They deserve credit, mentioning and their own shots, as far as I'm concerned. It is not my intention to slight them. I don't have a dog in this hunt, yet.

Also, not unusual these days given my work with Andrew, but it will be light blogging this afternoon. I've decided to take in something of a matinee for a change. Who knows, maybe one day soon I'll have even more to say about "The Undeated".

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Comments:
  1. Ragspierre says:

    Much as I hate to say it, this could be “the Trump effect”.
    Nobody with a political bone in their bodies could ignore the popular support Trump got from taking it to the MEEEEsiah, regardless of the content.

  2. Sissy Willis says:

    Sarah is the Mother of all Disintermediators of the Powers that Be, but can you disintermediate the PTB if you are, like Romney and Pawlenty, members of said PTB community?

  3. Ragspierre says:

    Sissy, don’t take this as a challenge, but an honest inquiry…
    How do you delineate between the PTB and non-PTB? What analysis do you use?

  4. Well, we know Newt is a spunky outsider cuz he says so, so he’d be a non-PTB, right?
    And I’ll be impressed with Romney or Pawlenty when I see them riding with Rolling Thunder…

  5. Ragspierre says:

    “Well, we know Newt is a spunky outsider cuz he says so, so he’d be a non-PTB, right?”
    Paaaa–leez…!

  6. m says:

    Rush Limbaugh said last night he would like to see Gov. Rick Perry of Texas run for President in 2012. Perry might be a better candidate than Palin, Gingrich, Romney, and Pawlenty. If Perry does get the nominee, I will vote for him.

  7. barfo says:

    “but we never saw confrontational tactics like this from the incredibly boring GOP of old”
    I’d label them juvenile, not confrontational.
    There seems to be a growing wing of the Republican party whose only qualification for their candidates is whether they’re assholea or not.

  8. Ragspierre says:

    Whereas barfo’s Collective has settled any such question long ago.
    They are uniform, lying aspholes.
    WASHINGTON—Former President Bill Clinton retracted comments that the U.S. government could default on its debt for a few days without “calamitous” consequences, after being urged to do so by top White House officials, people familiar with the events said Thursday.
    After hearing Mr. Clinton’s comments on Wednesday, White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley and Gene Sperling, director of the National Economic Council, spoke with aides to Mr. Clinton and advised that he clarify his thinking, two people said. The former president did so that afternoon.

  9. CaptainAmerica says:

    Gee, how’d that Trump candidacy work out?
    Remember when Republicans were all worried about the terrible effects of economic uncertainty? Now they’re willing to shut the country down and destroy the economy if they don’t get there way on raising the debt limit.
    There’s nothing quite as fun as watching the slow-motion train wreck that is today’s Republican Party.
    Run, Sarah, run. Please, please, please.

  10. Ragspierre says:

    So, when we are buying 70-80% of our own debt…(because, see, we are considered too RISKY by EVERYBODY)…
    Cap-i-tANUS says we should RAISE our debt ceiling…!!!
    Collectivists are OUTLAWS.
    Especially when it comes to the LAWS OF ECONOMICS…!!!
    Well, and LOGIC.

  11. Ragspierre says:

    According to a recent Sachs/Mason-Dixon poll obtained exclusively by The Daily Caller, a large majority of the public backs an amendment to the Constitution requiring a balanced budget, a reform some lawmakers say is on the table in the debt ceiling debate.
    65 percent of the public supports the amendment with 27 percent opposed; 8 percent are undecided.
    81 percent of Republicans and 68 percent of independents support the amendment. Even a plurality of Democrats, the party that typically resists spending cuts, back the amendment by a 45 percent to 44 percent margin.
    “Americans are concerned about our nation’s deepening deficit and as a result, an overwhelming number support a balanced budget amendment,” said Alia Faraj-Johnson, Partner and Executive Vice President of Ron Sachs Communications, the organization that commissioned the poll.
    Ads by Google
    A large plurality – 46 percent to 21 percent — also say they would be “more likely” to vote for a presidential candidate who backs the amendment, the poll shows.
    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/27/poll-large-majority-support-balanced-budget-amendment-to-constitution/#ixzz1NZrrJIi2

  12. CaptainAmerica says:

    Be my guest. Take the country into default and see how that works out for you.
    Dick Cheney: Ronald Reagan taught us deficits don’t matter.

  13. Ragspierre says:

    No, liar.
    Just as in business SOMETIMES you NEED to take on some debt to prosper, ENOUGH debt in business or for a nation is LETHAL. We are AT lethal levels.
    Gawd, CAN you tell the truth about ANYTHING!?!?!?
    The country won’t “default”, moron. It MAY have to undergo some austerity. Kinda like all us working Americans.

  14. Sissy Willis says:

    Ragsy: Good question, and I’m still working on a satisfactory answer. It’s more of a gut feeling than a rational argument. Rush put it well the other day in a phone conversation with Greta Van Susteren discussing Palin’s effect on establishment types of both parties:
    “Conservative Republicans make them [the powers that be] nervous,” he added. “’The Inside the Beltway’ ruling class — the elite — they’re more oriented toward candidates they can attach the word ‘serious’ to — which is another way of saying someone who is boring, who doesn’t ruffle feathers, someone who exudes an air of formal education and sophistication — she doesn’t exude that, and I think it’s going to shake a lot of people up.
    “You know the effect that she has on establishment Republican people,” Limbaugh continued. “They’re just as frightened in their own way as the Democrats are of Palin, and one thing I think is inescapable — particularly in looking at the Democrats — the Democrats and the media will always tell you who they are afraid of by virtue of who they spend time trying to destroy.”
    More here from Doug Brady at C4Palin: http://bit.ly/kKvfWJ

  15. CaptainAmerica says:

    If the debt ceiling isn’t raised, The US can no longer borrow money. The government will then be forced to decide which bills to pay and which to not pay – or default on.
    See all the Americans who’ve loaned the gov money per your previous post. They’ll be THRILLED about a default.

  16. Ragspierre says:

    I get what you said, but how do we differentiate between COMPETITIVE stuff (like maybe from a hypothetical opponent), and this “establishment unease” that Rush had reference to?
    I EXPECT a strong competitor to bring it to Palin.
    I guess HOW they bring it would be telling.
    But she can’t be immune to a hard, tough fight. (We’d all be better for it, up to a ridiculous extreme).

  17. Ragspierre says:

    “If the debt ceiling isn’t raised, The US can no longer borrow money. The government will then be forced to decide which bills to pay and which to not pay – or default on.”
    Whoa…..A BLAAAAAA—–AZING statement of the obvious….!!!!!
    Just like when you or I are faced with our very own “debt limit”.
    Just like WE all have to decide where we HAVE to put money…where we CAN put money…and what we HAVE to do WITHOUT….!!!!
    Perhaps the light for Cap-i-tANUS begins to dawn….!!!!!!!!!!
    So, Cap-i-tANUS, do YOU default to DEFAULT at your house…????
    OR, do you pay your debts and live accordingly…?????
    Why is this incomprehensible to you.
    Really.

  18. Sissy Willis says:

    Ragsums: I’m not worried about her. She fights like a girl. You want strong competitor(s)? Bring ‘em on!

  19. Ragspierre says:

    Oh, Sissy, don’t get me wrong! I LOVE Palin. Whatever her future, she will be a power-broker in conservative leadership.
    I’m still looking for the answer to the earlier question, and the recent post as a tentative…nebulous…inchoate attempt at an insight. How do we look at someone hitting hard in the hustings, and tell them from the PTB types?
    Maybe it is in HOW they hit?

  20. CaptainAmerica says:

    No, it’s not the same. The US Congress agreed to pay those bills.
    If Paul Ryan and all his so-called fiscal conservative buddies hadn’t voted to put two wars, tax cuts,AND a huge new entitlement on the national credit card we wouldn’t be in this mess.
    REAL fiscal conservatives pay for what they buy, they don’t pass it off on future generations like Ryan, Bush, Cheney and the rest of the BS fiscal conservative Republicans did.

  21. Ragspierre says:

    Wow, Cap-i-tANUS…
    What an IMMMENSE crock.
    CONGRESS…BIPARTISAN…still today…is supporting those wars…AND the NEW weirdness in Libya.
    “The US Congress agreed to pay those bills.”
    WTF are you talking about? There is NO fat in the budget??????????????????????
    NIGERIAN, PLEASE…!!!
    We spend 25% MORE than 2.5 years ago, but the Collective had a rolling cat fit over cutting, like 1%.
    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

  22. Ricky says:

    I thought Stiffney was the adult in the room? His supporters must be so dissappointed.

  23. Ricky says:

    Sending left-over pizza to the prez HQ is just not classy. Sarah will never do something like that. Like Ram sending dead-fish to his opponents.
    It is an insult to Sarah to even compare what that coward Romney did to anything Sarah is doing.
    Sarah has class. She may fight like a girl, but she never forgets who she is and Who she is representing.

  24. Ricky says:

    So Stiffney showed us he can be gutsy too…

  25. Ricky says:

    In case you think I do not have a sense of humor, I actually like Pawlenty’s tweet and think it was very effective. Obama will not be happy with that one, Pawlenty will soon find out….

  26. CaptainAmerica says:

    Hello, can’t you pay attention.
    Real Fiscal Conservatives pay for what they buy. If they o to war, they either cut other programs or raise taxes. Republican Fiscal Conservatives including Ryan and Demint instead supported two huge tax cuts, the second forced through using reconciliation. They also passed Medicare Part D without bothering to fund it.

  27. Ragspierre says:

    And Federal revenues were RAISED, stupid.
    And how the FLUCK would you judge what “Real Fiscal Conservatives” would do, being the Collectivist liar you are????
    Is there NOTHING in the current budget that could be cut????????????????

  28. CaptainAmerica says:

    Wrong. Revenues went up some years under Bush, down some years. And revenues would’ve been higher without the tax cuts.
    Funny, the only time Republicans want to be fiscal conservatives is when Dems are in power.
    Don’t forget the immortal words of Dick Cheney: Reagan taught us deficits don’t matter. And he proved he believed that BS.

  29. Ragspierre says:

    You really are just too stupid to live, Cap-i-tANUS.
    Your troll value is only to show just how stupid.
    Thanks!

  30. gary gulrud says:

    Timmy Plenty is making it hard for a conservative needing a piddling number of electors to ignore him as a VP tap. Case in point, Reagan and the plainly less worthy(forget the resume) H.W.
    Romney, on the otherhand, is now targeted as Enemy No. 2 by FreedomWorks. Seems like the leaderless TEA schema continues to work, setting aside room for improvement.
    52% of Republicans want another major party. TEAs outnumber Republicans 30% to 27%. No way we settle for the Oligarchy’s choice. Any good conservative will clobber the Repugnants in the Electoral College as an Indie.

  31. gary gulrud says:

    And FWIW, Ace has banned harmless little me for making the foregoing points. Of course, I was collateral damage, he catching an azzfull at the time, but just sayin.
    If you’re looking for a good time, cattle prodding RINO ‘tards, zing Ace, he’s despondent over ‘moderate’ fortunes.

  32. barfo says:

    “And revenues would’ve been higher without the tax cuts.”
    Please don’t confuse Rags/Drags with facts, Captain.
    It’s like kicking a wino lying in the street…an easy target.

  33. John Scotus says:

    So it takes a woman to show them how to act like men?

  34. Duke of DeLand says:

    Love Palin……she is attacked simply because she has the kahones to face facts.
    We’ve also left another Tea Party realist out of this…..Marco Rubio.
    The future is in these straight-shooters.

  35. sickofrinos says:

    Watch Tokyo Rove, he will be giving clues for the beltway gop giveaway. If the gop had a clue, they would just go away. A new breed of conservatives is what this country needs.

  36. Ragspierre says:

    “And revenues would’ve been higher without the tax cuts.”
    Which is why Obama extended them, while extolling their stimulative effect on the economy and calling them “his”.
    Really, you trolls should learn some current events. Economics, we see, are beyond you, but you could at least keep up with the news.
    “Consumer spending, income drop as inflation accelerates”…
    was a headline from yesterday.

  37. gary gulrud says:

    Right on cue Mitty backs Ethanol in IA as “important to the nation’s energy solution”.
    Gollum has found his “Pretty”.
    Economic Literacy and Dimmis, Oil and Water, Matter and AntiMatter, Life’s disjoint sets.

  38. barfo says:

    “Gollum has found his “Pretty”.”
    Campaigns are built brick by brick by supporting one special interest group’s special treatment from the federal government at a time.
    Maybe it’s just so much more obvious these days.

  39. Ragspierre says:

    “Campaigns are built brick by brick by supporting one special interest group’s special treatment from the federal government at a time.”
    Time to tear down the wall, break up the power, and give it back to the people.
    BIG GOVERNMENT RUINS.
    Markets…and Federalism…innovate, provide choice, and raise the standard of living.

  40. Ragspierre says:

    Over the last two years, the Obama administration has approved a whopping $34.4 million in compensation to the top six executives of the financially troubled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgage giants while lacking basic protections to ensure such compensation is warranted, a federal watchdog found.
    The largesse flowed to the six executives even though the two companies they run struggle to staunch billions of dollars in losses, remain in government conservatorship, and are required to repay taxpayers for assuming the companies’ liabilities during the mortgage crisis. Fannie and Freddie are tapping Treasury Department funds each quarter to help pay 10 percent dividends owed to the U.S. government.
    “The need for effectiveness, integrity, and transparency in FHFA’s programs and operations cannot be overstated,” said Inspector General Steve Linick, a former Justice Department prosecutor confirmed by Senate last year to watch over federal housing programs. “Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have received almost $154 billion in taxpayer funding to support the still-fragile housing market. In addition, they own or guarantee about $5.4 trillion in residential mortgage obligations.”
    So…
    Freddie and Fannie are “repaying” taxpaying Americans with…taxes…
    Oh, and DEBT (the MAJORITY of which we are buying from ourselves)…
    while paying FOBs (friends of Barackah) millions for their “management”.
    And Cap-i-tANUS can’t think how we could cut anything from our budget so we don’t “default”.
    AND Bwany Fwank and his Collectivist buds are busily trying to reinflate the CRAP mortgage bubble.
    Yep. The “Brights” are running things champion.

  41. CaptainAmerica says:

    BS, Republicans ruin. They could’t balance a budget if you gave them a $$$trillion head start.

  42. Ragspierre says:

    To a goose…and Cap-i-tANUS, history starts with each new dawn.
    Check out the last balanced budget, moron.
    But that is why we need a balanced budget amendment with REAL limits on Federal spending, so it isn’t “balanced” with bullspit accounting lies.

  43. Ragspierre says:

    “Pending sales of existing U.S. homes dropped far more than expected in April to touch a seven-month low, a trade group said on Friday, dealing a blow to hopes of a recovery in the housing market.
    The National Association of Realtors Pending Home Sales Index dropped 11.6 percent to 81.9 in April, the lowest since September.”
    Cause >>>>> effect, idiot Collectivists.

  44. Drago says:

    captain moron: “If the debt ceiling isn’t raised, The US can no longer borrow money. The government will then be forced to decide which bills to pay and which to not pay – or default on.”
    That is correct.
    Now, take a moment to explain why obambi voted AGAINST raising the debt ceiling and why is was just super-fantastic that he did so.
    LOL!!

  45. Drago says:

    captain moron: “And revenues would’ve been higher without the tax cuts.”
    Without stipulating where you are on the Laffer curve, that statement might, or might not, be correct.
    It all depends on your tax rate “starting” position.
    Further, for an even plainer “duh” moment, you may contemplate this: Deficits would’ve been lower if spending had been reduced.
    duh.

  46. CaptainAmerica says:

    Thanks for admitting if Bush hadn’t put two wars and a huge unfunded entitlement on the national credit card, the deficit would be lower.
    Clinton was the last to balance the budget. He’s a Dem. He even left Bush a surplus, which Bush promptly turned into a tax cut and a deficit.

  47. Ragspierre says:

    Cap-i-tANUS can’t avoid telling lies.
    He’s just a typical, brainless, stupid Collectivist.
    Presidents do not “balance budgets”. Their only “power” is to submit a budget.
    By Lori Montgomery and Nell Henderson
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Tuesday, January 16, 2007
    When he takes the House rostrum next week for the State of the Union address, President Bush will list among his goals a balanced federal budget, a shift for a president who has presided over record deficits while aggressively cutting taxes.
    Politically, analysts say, the president is calling the bluff of Democrats, who won control of Congress in part by accusing Bush of reckless fiscal policies. While Bush now shares the Democrats’ goal to erase the deficit by 2012, the politically perilous work of making that happen — cutting spending or raising taxes — falls to the Democratic-run Congress.
    ————————————————————————-
    Congress PASSES budgets. The LAST balanced budget was PASSED by a GOP majority during Clinton’s administration.
    The “Clinton surplus” is, as you’d expect, a fabrication. What Clinton did leave Bush was 1) a rather serious recession, and 2) a lot of very deceptive bookkeeping.
    Presidents also do not create tax law. Congresses do, just as did the LAST Congress, extending the Bush tax-rate decreases for all Americans, at Mr. Obama’s express request.
    ———————————————————-
    In September 27, 2000, CNN wrote that that:
    the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion, making it the largest in U.S. history and topping last year’s record surplus of $122.7 billion.
    I’m not sure where CNN finds their White House correspondents, but they obviously know nothing about government accounting. CNN is not the only clueless news narrators of course; MSNBC, The New York Times, ABC, CBS, USA Today and virtually every other national news agency got it wrong then, and continue to get it wrong today.
    Here is a tip for the mainstream news agencies: when reporting on US government budgetary issues, check the source. The source I’m referring to is the US Government’s Treasury Direct website. For all the pilfering the US government does of the tax coffers, at least they are honest about it. They accurately and honestly report the largest accounting scandal in world history. CNN just doesn’t understand the numbers.
    ———————————
    In the aggregate, Cap-i-tANUS has proven his posts are–
    1. stupid
    2. founded in ignorance
    3. lies

  48. Ricky says:

    I caught a little of Michael Savage show last night. He went through the list of candidates and potential candidates and argued that none of them has a chance except for MAYBE Sarah Palin (very hard for him to admit that!) and perhaps Cain.
    Very interesting. I thought if given a choice between Bachmann and Palin he would prefer the Bachmann.
    His opinion does not matter much to me, I was just surprised to see how his thinking has changed. He started out with more or less endorsing Romney the last time I listened to him.
    Someone I trust said I should pay more attention to Santorum. Will gladly do that. In the meantime, it is still…..
    Palin/West 2012!
    PS: What is wrong with Rush, meeting secretly with Christie to ask him to run? Fortunately his listeners are way smarter and more informed than he may think.

  49. gary gulrud says:

    “the pathetically weak I’ll resign if McCain goes directly after Barack Obama times, thanks to McKinnon, the GOP experienced in 2008?”
    I will consider a McKinnon, Rove, S. Schmidt, N. Wallace, Will, et al., endorsement a death blow to their candidate’s chance for my vote.
    Better to send me money, directly by courier, large bills.
    My ideal cabinet would be headed by Bolton Sec. of State, Netanyahu Sec. of Defense, Cain Sec. of Treasury, Bachmann Attorney General, …

  50. gary gulrud says:

    Romney now taking down Plenty and Huntsman for ‘considering healthcare mandates’.
    RINOs going down in fratricidal gold.plate.letter.opener fight.