It’s the MediScare, stupid

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May 25, 2011

Paul_ryan

"Mr. Gingrich has done great harm to his party and the cause of reform with his reckless criticism of Mr. Ryan, forfeiting any serious claim to be the GOP nominee," the WSJ editorialized earlier this week. "But equally as culpable are the self-styled conservative pundits who derided Republicans for dropping the reform mantle during the Bush years but now tremble that Mr. Ryan has gone too far." Above, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (AP Photo).

By Sissy Willis of sisu

The narrative's in. Democrat Kathy Hochul beat Republican Jane Corwin 47 to 43 percent — with 9 percent lost to faux "tea party candidate" Jack Davis — in New York's 26th District Congressional special election yesterday, and here's the spin, courtesy of The Associated Press:

The Democrat rode a wave of voter discontent over the national GOP's plan to change Medicare and overcame decades of GOP dominance here …

The special election that became a referendum on the health care plan for the nation's seniors may serve as a warning shot to further GOP efforts to cut popular entitlement programs.

"The three reasons a Democrat was elected to Congress in the district were Medicare, Medicare and Medicare," DCCC Chairman Steve Isarael, D-N.Y., said …

This is no time to go wobbly. Glad to see Paul Ryan out there front and center on Fox and Friends this very minute countering the spin 

Read full post here.

Comments:
  1. Ragspierre says:

    The three reasons a Deemocrat was elected are they lie, cheat, and steal.
    Same as usual.

  2. Ragspierre says:

    Merely stating the obvious, Sissy. But thank you.

  3. Sandy says:

    Rags- You are so correct. I knew last week or last month even that the Democrat was going to win that election, even without the fake Tea Party creep.
    Once again, the Republicans are so terrible at messaging. Their new ad with Ryan pushing Granny over the cliff is the height of hypocrisy. Telling all of their members up for re-election to use the Medicare angle is sickening. Probably not many remember that when the CBO was costing Obamacare, they “mistakenly” subtracted the $500 billion cuts to Medicare twice, in order to get the pricing under a certain limit. They have death panels to determine the fastest and quickest way to eliminate Granny. The Republicans should be screaming about the Liberals already cutting Medicare with Obamacare. I haven’t heard one Republican, including Ryan even bring up the cuts to Medicare in Ocare. What’s wrong with these people?

  4. Ragspierre says:

    Take heart, Sandy. Ryan just put this out…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJIC7kEq6kw
    These guys are not asleep.

  5. Terry says:

    Wow you Real Americans have an excuse for everything!

  6. Ragspierre says:

    And for you, Terry, there is no excuse. Go far away, or you can defend the indefensible.

  7. CaptainAmerica says:

    Please, please, please keep pushing Ryan’s Medicare plan. Perhaps another House vote just to prove how much Republicans believe in it.

  8. Ragspierre says:

    The Collective would prefer to have the country collapse, because, as we know, they have a penchant for killing masses of people.

  9. Terry says:

    Speaking of killing masses of people when is Real America going to own up to the colossal failure in Iraq? The alcoholic former male cheerleader invaded the wrong country, squandered a trillion dollars and you slackjawed rednecks cheered the Fox News coverage.
    At least BHO caught bin Laden.
    Pls refudiate.

  10. Ragspierre says:

    “Pls refudiate.”
    ‘K. Total bullshit from a lying Collectivist.
    There.
    http://www.qando.net/?p=10874
    But how’s that illegal kinetic not-war no-fly zone with attack helicopters attacking ground targets killing Muslims for oil going….????

  11. USA American says:

    I agree. The Teabillies should not listen to what voters have to say in a 4 decade long GOP stronghold, six months after it voted 74% for “shirtless” Chris Lee and for for Paladino over Cuomo. By the way, my cousin’s room-mate’s dog-walker’s co-worker lives in Clarence, NY, and she/he saw a black guy standing outside of a polling place. Obviously, ACORN is back and stole the election for the Dem. This is all the proof of lying and stealing I need because I am very Enlightened.

  12. Ragspierre says:

    Well, one could give credence to the UAssMORON bilge, OR…
    Professor Jacobson…
    There were so many quirks about this race that it’s hard to draw simple conclusions, but I think the following apply (in no particular order):
    A third party candidate can make a difference, and in this case Davis certainly drew more away from Corwin than Hochul.
    The Tea Party brand is powerful. A phony like Davis, who petitioned his way onto the ballot and then chose to call his ballot line the “Tea Party” line still managed to draw a significant vote.
    National Republicans need to get their act together. This is not a district which should have been ignored for so long. The challenge from Davis was noted by me and others in early April.
    The ability of Democrats to scare grandma should not be underestimated. Republicans need to be very proactive and very hard hitting is getting ahead of Democrats and explaining not only that no one currently receiving Medicare will be affected, but that the current system will result in severe rationing if changes are not made.
    We need candidates who are fighters and are seen as fighters. Corwin was a perfectly good candidate, but she ran a fairly mundane campaign.
    In the face of the Democratic scare grandma machine, nice guys and gals will finish last.
    Motivation matters. There was a poor turnout by Republicans, who didn’t care much.
    Republicans should stop ignoring conservative bloggers. Many conservative bloggers, including Sam Foster of Lonely Conservative and Jazz Shaw who blogs at the HotAir Green Room, were all over this race long before anyone else.
    The MSM will message for Democrats all day long. Already last night the NY Times rand a banner “Rubuke Seen To Medicare Plan”.
    I encourage all to decide for themselves.

  13. Sissy Willis says:

    Terry, dahling. Try to look beyond the left’s talking points: “There’s a word for this kind of long-range, deep, subtle planning: Strategery” http://bit.ly/l9Lfrq

  14. Terry says:

    Clearly you can’t “refudiate” so you link to some silliness about Lybia. Mission accomplished Real American!

  15. Sandy says:

    Rags- Now I think I understand your use of name calling. When dealing with those that ride the short bus, because they have been successfully lobotomized by the Liberals, names become the only thing they seem to understand. They are far beyond simply lacking in reading comprehension skills. Even when they are bested, they are dumb enough to keep coming back for more.
    Thanks for the youtube link. It would be great if I could watch videos, but I can’t. I live literally in the middle of almost nowhere, and High Speed is not available for me. It’s a small price to pay for safety, security, food aplenty, and living far away from the crazies. My biggest threat is from Black Bears and snakes, and we have the means to protect ourselves from both. Does Ryan address the Obamacare Medicare cuts?

  16. USA American says:

    Oh, clearly, Jack Davis was the spoiler, earning 9% of the vote in a plus 7 GOP stronghold, and where the Dem won by 6 points. Couple that with the exit polling clearly illustrating that Medicare was THE issue. You see, Enlightened IL, facts like that are what grownups use to deduce causation. But you won’t learn because the Collective you adhere to knows better than the voters in NY26. :)

  17. Ragspierre says:

    Yep, Sandy, he does. Beyond that, he points out that on the present trajectory, there will be severe shortages.
    Which, of course there will be, as we see wherever BIG GOVERNMENT takes over medicine.
    “New NHS performance data reveal that the number of people in England who are being forced to wait more than 18 weeks has risen by 26% in the last year, while the number who had to wait longer than six months has shot up by 43%.”
    I used to have a satellite internet connection when I had a place without DSL. Might look at that.

  18. Susan says:

    Dems know they have to lie and cheat to get elected. Look at their “Dear Leader” making a fool of himself in Europe. What a doofus leader; I’d get desperate, too.

  19. Ragspierre says:

    Terry, just because I have a minute…I will fiske you.
    “Speaking of killing masses of people when is Real America going to own up to the colossal failure in Iraq?”
    The one Obama and Biden claim as a great success of THEIR administration….???? Seems kinda schizophrenic.
    IF Bush = alcoholic
    THEN Obama = coke head (self admitted)
    IF Bush = former male cheerleader
    THEN Obama = Communist (self admitted)
    CONGRESS and a multi-national coalition (if anybody) “invaded the wrong country” AND squandered a trillion dollars
    and rest is just your hate shining through.
    See???

  20. Terry says:

    After 8 years of the dry drunk stammering like the guy from Slingblade BHO is a welcome change.
    Better either move to Alaska or wait until 2016 because you Real Americans have no one.

  21. Ragspierre says:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/24/the-obligatory-obama-thinks-its-still-2008-post/
    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/24/good-news-obama-botches-toast-to-the-queen/
    Hmmm….
    “New orders for manufactured durable goods in April decreased $7.1 billion or 3.6 percent to $189.9 billion, the U.S. Census Bureau announced today. This decrease, down two of the last three months, followed a 4.4 percent March increase. Excluding transportation, new orders decreased 1.5 percent. Excluding defense, new orders decreased 3.6 percent. Transportation equipment, also down two of the last three months, had the largest decrease, $4.9 billion or 9.5 percent to $46.7 billion.”
    People know failure when they see it.
    Obama is showing himself more Pres. Fiddle-foot every day.

  22. barfo says:

    Nice to see the fringe right still clinging to the steering wheel of the Republican bus as they drive it off the cliff…

  23. Terry says:

    Wow you might be the most angry guy on the Internet! It must be sad to spend all day on a 3rd tier “conservative” blog but surely there is more to life than that!
    Why not go for a walk. A bit of exercise might do you good. If not it’s a good thing that BHO has your healthcare taken care of!
    Mission accomplished, Real American!

  24. itsMike2Cents says:

    “Glad to see Paul Ryan out there front and center on Fox and Friends this very minite countering the spin…”
    Of course, Fox & Friend’s. But isn’t that more in the back and to the right?
    Bet they put Ryan through the ringer here.
    Ha.

  25. Ragspierre says:

    San Diego will be one of five cities in which the federal workers will test plug-in cars for government use.
    The General Services Administration said Tuesday it plans to buy 116 plug-in electric vehicles, including 101 Chevrolet Volts and 10 Nissan Leafs.
    It will put 13 Volts and four Leafs with San Diego workers, and will also install charging stations to serve them. The cars will go to workers with the Navy, the Marine Corps, Veterans Affiars and the Department of Transportation. …
    The purchases announced Tuesday are expected to cut gas usage by almost 29,000 gallons a year, saving taxpayer an estimated $116,000 and reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 257 metric tons, said GSA administrator Martha Johnson.
    101 Vots at $38,500 equals $3,888,500. Add to that 10 Leafs costing $33,000 and you get $4,218,500. Now add 5 EV’s at 32,500 and the grand total is $4,508,500. At a savings of only $116,000 a year in gas it would take 39 years to offset the costs of the cars. How much sense does that make? The battery life of these cars does not last more than ten years the last time I checked so the costs of buying new “green” cars will never be offset.
    __________________________________________
    Yep, East German central planning will save the world.

  26. Sandy says:

    Rags- You can post all of the facts, and show exactly where Obama is destroying the country all day long, and people like Terry still won’t care. Fact’s mean absolutely nothing to these people who will lie, cheat, and steal to keep their sugar daddy in office. Once he’s gone, they might have to get a job and do real work, not just walking to the mailbox for their government handouts. We could be using a wheelbarrow full of worthless dollars to buy a loaf of bread, and those like Terry will still be pulling the lever for the Won, still hoping that he will put gas in her car, and she won’t have to worry about her mortgage payments. Gee, I wonder if the hyperventilating guy at the Obama rally got any raises yet at McDonalds. I know he got a pass on the Obamacare mandate. I know you understand that that is the kind of mentality you are dealing with here. I like and appreciate your facts, but you have to be able to read, and comprehend in order to understand them.

  27. Sandy says:

    Hey Terry- If this is a third tier website, why are you wasting your time here?

  28. Ragspierre says:

    Understood, Sandy.
    The only utility these idiots provide here is as part of a demonstration of the vacancy of the Collective.
    Note the snappy come-back Terry provided after I fisked it. Just personal attack and running for the tall grass.
    People who read the threads get the distinction.

  29. itsMike2Cents says:

    Sure, Sandy – Ragspierre’s ‘facts’ -
    Pearls of rationale wisdom like:
    ‘Obama = Communist’ and ‘Obama = coke head’.
    Ha.
    (5…4….3…2…)

  30. Ragspierre says:

    mikey is lying again.
    Note the way he does it.
    He provides very deceptive PARTIAL quotes, which he knows fundamentally distort what I wrote.
    This is, of course, his Collectivist nature being demonstrated.
    Thanks, mikey…!!!!

  31. Ragspierre says:

    I just heard Pres. Fiddle-foot declare we were linked to somebody-or-other “through the ages” by some-thing-or-other.
    “through the ages”…
    The guy is a gaff MACHINE…!!!

  32. Terry says:

    My my, so critical! Ever consider actually DOING something? I realize that to you spending every waking moment raging on the Internet is a calling but perhaps you should think of a new hobby. Face it, BHO caught bin Laden you have another 6 years of him!
    Oh, it’s “gaffe” on case you’re interested.

  33. SacTownMan says:

    I love to see the trolls wet themselves over a single NY congressional seat!!
    Damn boys only 60+ more to go to make up for the ass whipping from last year!!
    Keep up those “grandma over the cliff” ads. Too damn funny watching the moonbats at work!!
    No budget for two years, unemployment staying high and the only thing they’ve got is the ‘Medicare scare” talking point.
    Too damn funny!!!

  34. Sandy says:

    Terry- Surely you can do better than the OBL meme. Everyone knows that they knew where OBL was 9 months earlier, but the O said NO. Then right before the raid, the O had to sleep on it for another 18 hours. Then they had to send him out golfing when the order from Panetta was given to the military to get him, because the O still couldn’t make up his mind. If they had waited for the O to decide what to do, what to do, oh what to do, Osama would still be watching porn and beating his wife.
    The middle east turmoil, sending our troops into one country, while allowing another to kill by the thousands, shows where the O really is. He choose telling, not even suggesting, but telling Israel to go back to the Holocost borders, like anyone would listen to this fruitloop anyway, as his hill to die on. He finally jumped his last shark, and this time landed in the shark infested waters. His own party is turning against him. That is those that have two living brain cells, and that don’t support themselves by walking to the mailbox for their livelihood via the government coffers.
    I don’t think you are going to be very happy here at this third tier website. Not at all.

  35. Ragspierre says:

    New orders for manufactured durable goods in April decreased $7.1 billion or 3.6 percent to $189.9 billion, the U.S. Census Bureau announced today. This decrease, down two of the last three months, followed a 4.4 percent March increase. Excluding transportation, new orders decreased 1.5 percent. Excluding defense, new orders decreased 3.6 percent. Transportation equipment, also down two of the last three months, had the largest decrease, $4.9 billion or 9.5 percent to $46.7 billion.
    Even with this sharp drop in orders, inventories continued to expand, and have now reached record highs:
    Inventories of manufactured durable goods in April, up sixteen consecutive months, increased $3.2 billion or 0.9 percent to $350.5 billion. This was at the highest level since the series was first published on a NAICS basis in 1992 and followed a 1.7 percent March increase. Transportation equipment, also up sixteen consecutive months, had the largest increase, $1.0 billion or 1.0 percent to $106.1 billion. This was also at the highest level since the series was first published on a NAICS basis in 1992 and followed a 2.4 percent March increase.
    Bulging inventories mean that goods aren’t moving. Until inventories begin to decline, orders will continue to fall as sellers run out of cash to buy more goods. We will soon start to see sharp discounting to get rid of inventories, which means narrower profits and less capital for future growth.
    __________________________________________________________
    The local trolls a NOT bright enough to understand this is just cause/effect.
    Jobs CANNOT develop in the Obamic poisoned crony-fied fascist banana republic.

  36. HTW says:

    I agree, SacTown. There is no way the Democrats are going to take the House back, especially if they flog this one horse that is really a non-issue.
    There is obviously a lot else going on in that district. Nobody is talking about why this election was held in the first place. Surely some disenchantment with Chris Lee had something to do with the Republicans getting fewer votes. There still may be a little bit of Bin Laden bounce, Hochul is pretty moderate by lefty New York standards, Mediscare probably DID get a few suckers, and Jack Davis surely swiped a big chunk of potential Republican votes.
    Before the left starts crowing, Republican and conservative candidates combined took 52% of the vote vs. 47% for Hochul and 1% for the Green candidate.

  37. HTW says:

    P.S. My bet is that Corwin comes back and wins in 2014.

  38. itsMike2Cents says:

    “Note the way he does it.”
    Yea…very tricky how I just refer back to your own postings.
    Ha.
    “I love to see the trolls wet themselves over a single NY congressional seat!!”
    SacTownMan -
    And what do you think folks on your side would be doing had the outcome been the opposite.
    I suppose just making very modest and level headed remarks about how this was just one race…
    right?

  39. barfo says:

    “Jobs CANNOT develop in the Obamic poisoned crony-fied fascist banana republic.”
    And yet, Obama’s approval rating hit 53% today, the highest its been in a year and a half.
    Funny not a single wingnut blog mentioned the fact that violent crime has fallen to its lowest point in over 40 years.
    Poor Rags/Drags, stuck on the losing side but he doesn’t realize it yet.

  40. barfo says:

    Before you ask, Rags/Drags, here’s the link to Obama’s approval rating at Gallup http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

  41. Drago says:

    barfo the hopeless: “And yet, Obama’s approval rating hit 53% today, the highest its been in a year and a half.”
    And yet, the point being made was that obambi, and you and your pals, have failed to deliver the job creation numbers that YOU guys told us would occur if we would only pass your super-duper stimulus plan.
    The plan was passed.
    And. It. Failed.
    Which is why you had to create brand new fake stats like “jobs saved”, and then lump this magical pixie-dust number in with real job creation numbers.
    But thats ok, all those people who don’t have jobs are really being fooled by the cooked polls that your side is offering up.
    speaking of which, I noticed you didn’t bother to provide a link to your 53% approval poll for obambi.
    I wonder if that’s because it’s similar to the cooked poll last week that included DOUBLE the number of democrats to Republicans.
    Because we all know that there will be twice as many dems in the voting booths next year as reps.
    Yep.
    Just keep telling yourself that!!
    LOL!

  42. Drago says:

    barfo gets caught in the “butterfield” trap: “Funny not a single wingnut blog mentioned the fact that violent crime has fallen to its lowest point in over 40 years.”
    LOL
    The reason violent crime has fallen to it’s lowest point in over 40 years is that incarceration rates for violent crime are at their highest point in decades!!
    LOL!!
    Which is precisely why those good liberal judges just the day before yesterday ruled that the overcrowded prisons, (overcrowded with prisoners barfo!! LOL!) had to reduce their populations to conform to some sort of stupid lefty law passed.
    So, the good people of California are now just a few weeks away from having 40,000 criminals dumped back onto the street.
    It couldn’t happen to a nicer lefty state.

  43. barfo says:

    Sorry to pierce your fringe right cocoon even more today, Rags/Drags but I thought I share today’s generic Congressional ballot results from Republican pollster Rasmussen:
    “Republicans hold a two-point lead over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot for the week ending May 22, 2011. That’s down five points from last week and ties the smallest gap between the parties since October 2009. ”
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot
    “I noticed you didn’t bother to provide a link to your 53% approval poll for obambi.”
    Read the post before yours, Rags/Drags.
    You.are.so.predictable.

  44. Drago says:

    barfo the hopeful: “Poor Rags/Drags, stuck on the losing side but he doesn’t realize it yet.”
    The losing side?
    LOL!
    Since when?
    The republican candidate and a fake tea party candidate combined for what, 52/53% of the vote?
    And this was a +6 district for McCain?
    And so, the fake tea party candidate and the republican combine for, at worst, a +5 over the dem who won a plurality.
    And so the voice-actuated lefties immediately chime in that a +6 rep district which votes against the dem by only +5 is suddenly an indicator of a nationwide movement away from the reps?
    LOL!!
    Too funny.
    What would you call a nationwide election where over 1000+ seats switched from dem to republican at all levels of government, federal and state, and where the reps took back the house just 2 years after being told they would wander in the wilderness for 20 years?
    The left.
    Uncaricature-able!!
    LOL

  45. Ragspierre says:

    Wow, barfo…President Fiddle-foot is posting some improved numbers.
    I wonder why?
    It SURE is not because the economy is improving.
    It SURE is not because he’s such a whiz at foreign policy.
    And it SURE isn’t because he has the LEAST respect for our people or their Constitution…
    On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial “large magazines.” Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.
    “I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”
    Minor noted that this under-the-radar anecdote matches up with other reporting:
    The statement reinforces an article in the Huffington Post describing how the administration is exploring ways to bypass Congress and enact gun control through executive action.
    The Department of Justice reportedly is holding meetings discussing the White House’s options for enacting regulations on its own or through adjoining agencies and departments. “Administration officials said talk of executive orders or agency action are among a host of options that President Barack Obama and his advisers are considering. “
    Think that’ll endear Barackah to any but the moonbat Collective…???
    C’mon…prediction time. Show some orbs, trolls.

  46. Drago says:

    BTW lefties, is it now racist to keep referring to this year as 2011?
    Or to refer to only 50 states, instead of 57?
    Don’t bother anwsering, I’m sure it is…….
    Did you happen to catch obambi in Ireland?
    What did you think about those typical white people who have been clinging to their religion for centuries?
    LOL

  47. Ragspierre says:

    The trolls here will be claiming that Obarambo, Slayer Of Terrorists, has also brought crime stats down by his work on the streets.
    Hey, one is as rational as the other.

  48. Terry says:

    Wow that BHO sure sounds like a dope! Good thing his main competition for 2012 consists is a flip flopping cult member and a trashy hack who governed an arctic moose herd for 2 years and then quit.
    Best look to 2016 because you have NOTHING.

  49. Ragspierre says:

    Wow, Terry…the more you post, the more your unabashed, barely varnished hatred comes to the fore.
    It is really pretty ugly. But you embrace it. What does that tell us?

  50. itsMike2Cents says:

    Drago -
    That last post was just inanity.
    Gawd…desperate.

  51. Just remember – Paul Ryan was for expanding Medicare before he was against it. He provided the deciding vote expanding Medicare Part D.

  52. Sandy says:

    Terry- If you were not shaking in your boots because you know your candy man is ready to lose in 2012, you wouldn’t even be posting here. You’d be over at Kos, or better yet at Obama’s website itself clapping and cheering your big man on. I can almost feel your fear through my computer, and the smell isn’t any more pleasant. We have a great field. It’s the liberal’s that are trying to paint the GOP field as weak. Nice try, but it won’t work.

  53. Ragspierre says:

    Ah, more “mikey substance” from the ever-flowing well of bullshit that is his skull.
    Noticed you doubled-down on your lie, mikey.
    Again, I cannot demonstrate the Collective’s love of lies without you…!!!!

  54. Sissy Willis says:

    Omigod. 55 comments. Nobody ever comments like that at home.

  55. Ragspierre says:

    They look like examples of crony capitalism, bailout favoritism and gangster government.
    One thing they don’t look like is the rule of law.
    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/05/obama-skirts-rule-law-reward-pals-punish-foes#ixzz1NOrSJVAQ
    Yep. Everybody knows this, of course. But the corrupt, evil thugs of the Collective like it, protect it, and lie about it.

  56. Sandy says:

    I just looked at the latest Obama approval polling. FOX gives him the highest overall approval rate, at 55%. They polled 910RV. I have to wonder if they didn’t poll the mental institutions. Here are two of the most interesting answers to questions on the poll.
    “Do you support or oppose allowing the CIA to use enhanced interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding, to try to obtain information from terrorist suspects?”
    Support- 63%
    Oppose- 30%
    Don’t know- 7%
    The very next question on the poll-
    “The US Justice Department is investigating CIA agents for use of enhanced interrogation techniques when questioning key terrorism suspects. Do you think those investigations should continue or be dropped?”
    Continue- 51%
    Dropped- 44%
    Don’t know- 5%
    WTF? In other words the Liberals are saying that it’s OK for Obama’s CIA guys to do it, but the Bush CIA guys need to rot in jail.
    Here is the main part of the poll-
    Overall total 55%.
    Democrats-
    Approve- 88%
    Disaprove- 9%
    Republicans-
    Approve-19%
    Disapprove-78%
    Independents-
    Approve-43%
    Disapprove-49%
    Tea Party-
    Approve- 13%
    Disapprove- 85%
    Men-
    Approve-53%
    Disapprove-43%
    Women-
    Approve- 57%
    Disapprove- 39%
    White-
    Approve- 46%
    Disapprove- 50%
    Non-White-
    Approve- 81%
    Disapprove- 16%
    College Degree-
    Approve- 55%
    Disapprove- 41%
    No College-
    Approve- 55%
    Disapprove- 40%
    Under 35 Age Group-
    Approve- 62%
    Disapprove- 33%
    In each increasing age group Obama loses significant support as the age goes up.
    So, from the questions I listed above, the answers are irrational. Keeping that in mind, and seeing the very high approval numbers from the Democrats, at 88%, and only 19% of Republicans supporting him, I would say it throws the entire poll into question as to it’s credibility. The race questions should not ever have been asked, but the fact that non-whites support Obama by 81%, it appears that it is a case of reverse racism. The Saul Alinsky, and Cloward-Piven rules for radicals, and divding the population by race warfare, is having a successful effect for the radicals.

  57. Ragspierre says:

    Former President Bill Clinton, still widely considered one of his party’s foremost politicians, said on Wednesday that Democrats should cut a “reasonable” deal with Republicans on Medicare savings rather than conclude from Tuesday’s upset in a special Congressional election that bashing Republicans on the issue is the key to a party comeback in 2012…
    “You shouldn’t draw the conclusion that the New York race means that nobody can do anything to slow the rate of Medicare costs. I just don’t agree with that,” Mr. Clinton said at a budget forum sponsored by the Peter G. Peterson Foundation. Instead, he said, “you should draw the conclusion that the people made a judgment that the proposal in the Republican budget is not the right one. I agree with that.”…
    Mr. Clinton, with some passion, returned to the topic at the end of an hour-long interview. “I think the Democrats are going to have to be willing to give up, maybe, some short-term political gain by whipping up fears on some of these things — if it’s a reasonable Social Security proposal, a reasonable Medicare proposal. We’ve got to deal with these things. You cannot have health care devour the economy.”
    huh…
    OK.
    Where’s the Deemocrat proposal?
    I mean, the one BESIDES watching the nation collapse.

  58. Ricky says:

    “Mr. Gingrich has done great harm to his party and the cause of reform with his reckless criticism of Mr. Ryan,” Exactly, and that is unforgivable!
    “forfeiting any serious claim to be the GOP nominee”
    Newt doesn’t think so. He keeps talking about him and Ryan being close friends and how they are actually working together on the plan. He is not going away anytime soon.

  59. Ragspierre says:

    Ricky, he’s already gone…as the Eagles would say…
    He never arrived WRT POTUS.

  60. Sandy says:

    Clinton is not a trustworthy spokesperson. He is triangulating once again, which he did when the Democrats got a trouncing from Hillarycare. Don’t fall prey to this Liberal, as he is doing nothing more than trying to regain Democrat support. Bill Clinton has always been the smoothest of liars. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Hillary doesn’t primary Obama at some point. All signs from both Bill and Hillary are pointing to it.

  61. itsMike2Cents says:

    “I cannot demonstrate”
    Indeed, Ragspierre.
    Maybe Dragon will lend you a helping han.
    He’s as loyal as pug.
    Very sweet.
    Sound&Fury…sound……and…fury?
    Ha.

  62. Ragspierre says:

    Oww…
    mikey is feeling the slings and arrows outrageous…of the truth.
    Reality bites, mikey.
    And, thank you again, for the exposition…!!!!
    Always fun!

  63. Tennwriter says:

    I can’t do what the Lefties can. I can’t just wind myself up, and start screaming enthusiastically about something I know to be mostly false, or at least a good part false.
    I’m not a good salesperson. Tell me to sell furniture or computers, and I’d give people the facts, and maybe a bit of soft-voiced encouragement, but I wouldn’t be shouting ‘this is the best sofa ever!’ and ‘your wife will leave you if you don’t buy this computer!’.
    WWell, sometimes I’ve wound myself up. I’m not perfect.
    Where do you get this level of excitement? And this certainty that anyone who disagrees is totally awful?
    I really, really, really like Sarah Palin. But she has her faults, and quite a few of them. I think Obama is a horrible president, but he looked pretty comfortable over in Ireland, and while I find it amusing that he wrote ’2008′ I’m not going to go into a screaming frenzy like a Lefty would about Palin or Bush, and how it proved they were braindead.
    He’s tired. He made a stupid mistake.
    Only if you believe Obama is some sort of God or supergenius should you be that surprised. If you, like me, think he’s a guy in over his head, and burdened by a lot of wrong ideas and some character faults…then you just smile a bit and move on.
    Lefties don’t.
    And then I see Righties trying to imitate the Lefty drool, and it always rings hollow to me, well most of the time. Sure, we Righties laugh when Obama says ’57 States’, but we don’t really get righteously indignant about it like the Lefties got over ‘My Pet Goat’.
    I think its because we are more humane. We tolerate the notion that people are people. People goof up, people need a couple extra minutes to process, people betray their lack of experience by small gaffes.
    I suppose some do this because its hoped that low info voters aka independents will find a resonance between some gaffe and unstated worries about some character flaw they worry the current President has.
    Honestly, I’d rather have a serious conversation. Unfortunately, I expect that I can’t most of the time with a Lefty. Which is why I don’t really talk to Lefties that much on Riehl World. What’s the point?
    So, back to the article. Good for the WSJ. Of course, IMO, they are saying the obvious. Newt had no chance to begin with. I’m starting to get a bit annoyed with the man.
    Ryan’s plan is of course, not going to be enough.
    I still don’t know why we don’t go with the Tennwriter Snowball Plan. That is, attack something Excessively Stupid and Small, and destroy it. NPR, Planned Parenthood, Nat’l Endowment for the Arts…
    Just say ‘time for the poor to stop paying for the propaganda enjoyed by the rich’, and ‘its morally wrong to force a woman who believes abortion is murder to pay for it, and more woman dislike abortion than men do, so there, you NOW creepazoids.’
    Use that as proof that you’re serious and trustworthy, and then move on to the next slightly larger target. Once you’ve done this five or so times, and people realize you’re trustworthy and sensible and lawabiding….then deal with Medicare.

  64. barfo says:

    “The republican candidate and a fake tea party candidate combined for what, 52/53% of the vote?”
    The Republican candidate got 73% of the vote in the same district just 6 months ago Rags/Drags.
    The Republicans have lost 20% of America.

  65. Ragspierre says:

    We’ll content our selves with the remaining 80%, barfo/liar/coward/racist/anti-Semite.
    btw, there is no such thing as that phantom you keep posting to, moron.

  66. Ragspierre says:

    Joe Klein: The result in NY-26 was a “victory for socialism”
    Yep. And lies told to frighten old people, so they can be kept dependent.
    O-ba-ma
    O-ba-ma

  67. Ragspierre says:

    One of the most important Democratic donors in the past two decades, whose generous contributions helped pay for the DNC headquarters in Washington, D.C., has indicated that he will not contribute to President Obama’s reelection campaign in 2012, because of the administration’s stance on Israel.
    Yep, barfo. A damn tidal wave of support for Pres. Fiddle-foot.
    Idiot.

  68. barfo says:

    “The republican candidate and a fake tea party candidate combined for what, 52/53% of the vote?
    And this was a +6 district for McCain?”
    Rags/Drags,
    The Republican candidate, Shirtless Chris Lee, won that same district just 6 months ago with 73% of the vote.
    LOL
    The Republicans have lost 20% of the voters.
    LOL

  69. barfo says:

    “The republican candidate and a fake tea party candidate combined for what, 52/53% of the vote?
    And this was a +6 district for McCain?
    And so, the fake tea party candidate and the republican combine for, at worst, a +5 over the dem who won a plurality.”
    The Republican candidate,Shirtless Chris Lee, won this district with 73% of the vote just 6 months ago, Rags/Drags.
    LOL
    The have Republicans lost 20% of the voters since then.
    LOL

  70. Ragspierre says:

    Wow, barfo, are you confused!
    This is common for an open seat.
    Or are your really so STUPID you don’t get the power of incumbency…???
    (It’s rhetorical…we ALLLLLL know the answer to that one!!!)

  71. barfo says:

    “This is common for an open seat.”
    Sure it is Rags/Drag.
    Happens all the time.
    I really doubt even you believe your b.s.
    Face it, America has gotten a brief sample of how the Tea Party fanatics govern and they’re pulling the plug.

  72. rickl says:

    Yeah, God forbid we should cut “popular entitlement programs”. Lets just all go down the drain together.
    Or better yet, if we really want to get serious, we could bar entitlement recipients from voting.

  73. Ragspierre says:

    Um…barfo…
    two words, moron…
    Scott
    Brown

  74. Ragspierre says:

    In the week ending May 21, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 424,000, an increase of 10,000 from the previous week’s revised figure of 414,000. The 4-week moving average was 438,500, a decrease of 1,750 from the previous week’s revised average of 440,250.
    The advance seasonally adjusted insured unemployment rate was 2.9 percent for the week ending May 14, a decrease of 0.1 percentage point from the prior week’s unrevised rate of 3.0 percent.
    The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending May 14 was 3,690,000, a decrease of 46,000 from the preceding week’s revised level of 3,736,000. The 4-week moving average was 3,742,250, an increase of 7,750 from the preceding week’s revised average of 3,734,500.
    _____________________________________________________________
    That ol’ Mr. Effect jus’ keeps following Miss Cause aroun’…
    Obamonomics are ruining our country. We have been reduced to the banana republic of America.

  75. Terry says:

    My my Rags. Posting all day and all night and calling others “moron”. You know what they say about Real Americans that live in glass double-wides…

  76. Ragspierre says:

    Got substance, Terry? If not, STFU.
    btw, this posting stuff takes seconds, unless I do it during a cigar break, so don’t worry your stupid empty head.
    Moron.

  77. USA American says:

    “Scott
    Brown”
    One of 5 GOPers to vote AGAINST the GOPer’s plan to privatize medicare. People with 2 brain cells to rub together might begin noticing a pattern. Do you need a link to that to prove that it happened, Enlightened 1L?

  78. Ragspierre says:

    But Medicare is going bankrupt. Anyone who says it is not is simply lying. And anyone who is in favor of doing nothing to deal with this fact is in favor of bankrupting it. Medicare will go broke in as little as nine years. No one likes this news, but it is the undeniable truth. And the sooner we begin to deal with it, the better off we are all going to be.–
    Marco Rubio
    True that.
    nishferatu, there has been a pattern of NE RINO voting for years. There is a “gutless block”. You just discovering this phenomenon, stupid?
    Wow.

  79. Ragspierre says:

    There has not been a single unanimous negative vote in the Senate this session — until now. Yesterday, the Senate rejected by a 0-97 vote the budget proposed by Barack Obama:
    The Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to reject a $3.7 trillion budget plan that President Obama sent to Capitol Hill in February.
    Ninety-seven senators voted against a motion to take it up.
    ************
    Democratic aides said ahead of the vote that the Democratic caucus would not support the plan because it has been supplanted by the deficit-reduction plan Obama outlined at a speech at George Washington University in April.
    ************
    Really? Oh, good. So when will Senate Democrats put that plan up for a vote? Right … never. As Harry Reid said this week, Democrats don’t want to provide leadership and do the jobs to which they were elected — they just want to tell everyone else how to do their jobs.–
    Ed Morrissey
    See a pattern, nishferatu…???
    And, as always, Obama has AT LEAST TWO positions…even two budgets…

  80. USA American says:

    You know its the Enlightened 1L when you have to watch out for flying fallacies – in this case: (1) misdirection, and (2) argument from spurious similarity.

  81. Ragspierre says:

    The Supreme Court has backed an Arizona law that punishes businesses hiring illegal immigrants, a law that opponents, including the Obama administration, say steps on traditional federal oversight over immigration matters.
    The 5-3 ruling Thursday is a victory for supporters of immigration reform on the state level.
    ________________________________________
    Heh.
    Why, UAssMORON, this is just like that ruling about hearing a flushing toilet (that never considered hearing a flushing toilet).
    Go to your moonbat sites and let them set your hair on fire. Then you can come back here and lie to us.
    That’ll be amusing….

  82. barfo says:

    “two words, moron…
    Scott
    Brown”
    Um, the Democrats lost the House shortly after Brown won his special election election, Rags/Drags.

  83. itsMike2Cents says:

    Sounds like the Repubs have ‘death panel’ issue -
    so inaccurate and unfair, right?
    Ha.
    Think they’re working right now on a new ‘Ryan’ plan?
    You betcha!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U

  84. Ragspierre says:

    Gawd, barfo, you STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooopid excells…!!!!
    Brown WON in an open-seat election. Where there wasn’t a chance in hell prior to the seat coming open, due to the power of incumbency.
    Context, moron. I KNOW you have short-term memory problems, but you can go back and read the thread, see???

  85. barfo says:

    “Brown WON in an open-seat election.”U
    Um, Rags/Drags,
    The election we’re discussing, New York’s 26th, was an open seat election, too.
    It was open because the married conservative Republican that held it resigned after he was caught trying to pick up women on Craigslist.

  86. Ragspierre says:

    “so inaccurate and unfair, right?”
    Funny euphemism for “outright lie told to frighten old people”.
    Buy…hey…it IS mikey, and we KNOW he loves the lie…!!!

  87. Ragspierre says:

    “The election we’re discussing, New York’s 26th, was an open seat election, too.”
    Yeah. Like I said. Dumbass.
    “It was open because the married conservative Republican that held it resigned after he was caught trying to pick up women on Craigslist.”
    Which would have been a resume enhancement if he was a Deemocrat, as we all know. (See Kennedy, Edward; Fwank, Bwarny).

  88. itsMike2Cents says:

    “outright lie told to frighten old people”
    Ha…suddenly such a thing concerns you.
    So…
    What do you think Ryan’s new plan will look like?

  89. Ragspierre says:

    “Ha…suddenly such a thing concerns you.”
    Oh, no, liar. Demagoguery has concerned me for many decades. As we’ve noted many times here, it is the Collective’s most used tool. Ever read 1984?
    Hold your breath on that “new Ryan plan”, moron. That’ll reduce Gorbal Warming just champion…!!!!

  90. Ragspierre says:

    http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1340643&position=1
    U.S. Rep. Barney Frank admitted he helped his ex-lover land a lucrative post with Fannie Mae in the early 1990s while the Newton Democrat was on a committee that regulated the lending giant — but he called questions of a potential ethical conflict “nonsense.”

  91. barfo says:

    “Which would have been a resume enhancement if he was a Deemocrat, as we all know. (See Kennedy, Edward; Fwank, Bwarny).”
    I don’t know.
    Diaper Dave Vitter’s Senate career doesn’t seem to be hurt by his preaching the conservative gospel during the week and then banging hookers while wearing pullups on the weekends.

  92. Ragspierre says:

    “preaching the conservative gospel”
    Link???

  93. Their new ad with Ryan pushing Granny over the cliff is the height of hypocrisy. Telling all of their members up for re-election to use the Medicare angle is sickening. Probably not many remember that when the CBO was costing Obamacare, they “mistakenly” subtracted the $500 billion cuts to Medicare twice, in order to get the pricing under a certain limit. They have death panels to determine the fastest and quickest way to eliminate Granny.

  94. Terry, please keep it up. Your comments are golden when I need to talk to people about the left.