John Ziegler Likes To Correct The Record
I saw it argued in comments at this Hot Air post that John Ziegler likes to correct the historical record.
To be fair, he wants to correct the historical record about Palin and the way she was treated in the 2008 election by the media (egregious misquotes, attacks on family etc) I’m sure your personal opinion about her doesn’t matter whatever it may be.
Perhaps that's all too true it seems, though some might argue that allegedly outing a former co-worker, seemingly publishing private emails, among other accusations of former co-workers because you were fired might be going a bit too far. One record remains unclear to me, though.
What was the precise nature of comments he made on air of a former girlfriend's breasts, underwear, genital grooming and libido that once got him sued? While he won on First Amendment grounds, I did read coverage suggesting the jury may have wanted him punished, they simply didn't know how. There are several links to explore. However, I was unable to clear that one portion of the record. Given his penchant for setting the record straight, perhaps John will also clear that mystery up.
He [was] also involved in a very public romance with one Darcie Divita, a former LA Lakers cheerleader who is part of a morning news show on the local Fox TV affiliate. The relationship is apparently Louisville's version of Ben & J.Lo, and its end is not amicable. In August '03, prompted by callers' questions on his regular "Ask John Anything" feature, Mr. Z. makes certain on-air comments about Ms. Divita's breasts, underwear, genital grooming, and libido. Part of the enduring controversy over John Ziegler's firing, which occurs a few days later, is exactly how much those comments and/or subsequent complaints from listeners and the Louisville media had to do with it. Mr. Z. has a long list of reasons for believing that his P.D. was really just looking for an excuse to can him. As for all the complaints, Mr. Z. remains bitter and perplexed: (1) "The comments I made about Darcie's physical attributes were extremely positive in nature"; (2) "Darcie had, in the past, volunteered information about her cleavage on my program"; (3) "I've gone much further with other public figures without incident … I mocked [Kentucky Governor] Paul Patton for his inability to bring Tina Conner to orgasm, [and] no one from management ever even mentioned it to me."
On this website you read and hear compelling and exclusive evidence that:
The John & Ken Show is fundamentally fraudulent and makes professional wrestling seem credible in comparison
John Kobylt is the main reason that John Ziegler is no longer at KFI
John Kobylt made one of the most racist statements ever made by a person in his position and, in the opinion of John Ziegler, is a racist.
Ken Chiampou is presumed to be a homosexual by nearly everyone at KFI and why that should matter to KFI listeners.
There is a lot that John & Ken don't want you to know about how they do their show and determine what they are going to say
Bill Handel is a fair-weathered “friend” who hates John & Ken but who committed one of the most massive acts of hypocrisy imaginable after strangely going out of his way to defend John Kobylt
KFI management is utterly incompetent and corrupt
John Ziegler is hardly perfect and not talented enough to be a success doing KFI's brand of deceptive talk.
At the end of John Ziegler's tenure at KFI things got so absurd that they were absolutely comical
Ziegler's replacement is, according to industry observers who have worked with him, a boring, lazy, porn obsessed, phony who is "one of the worst people I have ever encountered in radio."
You might be the only person on the planet who cares about John Ziegler. You don’t have to prove that Ziegler is a dickhead, Dan. That’s fairly obvious to everybody who hears him speak. And what’s up with trying to smear him as a racist because of what disgruntled ex co-workers say? Isn’t that exactly what CJ is doing to your good friend Robert McCain? Is this Dan Riehl’s little green football?
As for him talking about a cheerleaders boobs… well DUH! He was a shock/sports radio jock! That was his job! Do you listen to much sports radio? It’s 90% Chicks, 5% football and 5% bitching about football.
Did the guy piss in your corn flakes or something?
Dan? As good as that last post was, this is …unworthy. I’d just delete the damn thing.
Okay Dan. I think this is a little beneath you. You have made your points (much of which I agree with) but there is no need to drag this discussion into the gutter. You said your piece, Ziegler has screamed his response. now can we all now move on without anymore ridiculous petty squabbling, it doesn’t do either of you any good.(particularly you Dan as you aren’t the one who embarrassed yourself publicly the way he did)
Why? I thought correcting the record is a good thing? That’s a strange response, db. It seems to me as though everyone is more than happy to dunp Keene based upon allegations I honestly don’t feel to be well-founded. Like it, or not – the model Keene is within has done a great deal for conservatism over the years.
OTOH, Ziegler has accomplished relatively nothing. Yet, he seeks higher visibility by publicaly attacking Keene. It seems to me that given the history of Ziegler, he is far more likely to damage conservative than Keene ever is. But perhaps as it’s so easy to pile on everyone in DC people are happy to go willingly into that good night.
Sorry, I’m doing and saying precisely what I think is best for the movement, as I always do here. We might disagree. But I’m not one to let popularity of my ideas and beliefs in my ideas and thoughts get in the way of acting upon them.
So, if people want to dis, or abandon me as Ziegler is far more entertaining, so be it. At the end of it all at least I can take comfort in having done the right thing as best as I could determine it to be.
Oh, I agree that it is distasteful, Montee. That’s precisely why I decided to post it after it was emailed to me. I didn’t go looking for the record.
I’m something of a Palin fan. You really think not knowing as much as we might about someone so intent on hitching his wagon to her horse isn’t worth knowing what we can about him?
As I’ve sort of said, sorry, but I must disagree. No matter what she does, Ziegler strikes me as someone not only able to turn on her, but bring her down through any name association simply given who he seems to be.
I think ignoring it, or sweeping it under the rug is a bad idea. ymmv, of course.
I gave up on CPAC last year when they completely ignored the most important issue of the century, the Islamic Jihadist war against the West.
I will support Conservatism up until the point it begins to intrude upon my right to a secured and defended Nation; at the last CPAC, Keene showed to me CPAC does not care about National Defense anymore that Obama and the Democrats.
Well, that’s another issue, syn. I know I wasn’t pleased with the last CPAC event. But I wasn’t there, so I didn’t say much. Still, even that is different from ACU, actually. At least I believe it’s driven by other individuals and they did form a blog advisory committee this year. Hopefully that will yield some improvement to any who weren’t happy with the event. We’ll see, I guess.
Your blog is on my early morning must-read list. That being said, this particular entry scores about a 2 on a 1-10 scale. That’s OK though. I’ll happily take the bad with the good because the good outnumbers the bad by a huge margin.
Thanks, CP. Yeah, once I was perfect. But I’m not a young, drunk liberal anymore!!
First time I’d gone, they had Geert Wilders come in, but they sneaked him through the back,
speeches were good with the exception of Sanford, who ended up being not all that exciting (talk about erroneous firstimpressions)
I got a positive vibe from practically everyone
when I mentioned Palin.
As for Ziegler, yes he’s a self promoter, in talk radio, surely you gest. Does he get his enthusiasm get the best of him, probably. Can we deny there is an almost 24/7 attack spearheaded on all effective conservatives, beginning with your linked snippets from MSNBC
through the shadow blogs like IM and Kos and Huffington Post. So it turns out, Huck will not endorse Hoffman, even though he’s speaking to the Conservative Party, so that will tell you something
“Huck will not endorse Hoffman”
Yeah, figuring out Huck’s calculus beyond the religous Right which has less influence in the NE is always a guessing game.
He strikes me as a shred guy, but shrew guys often out shrew themselves, eventually. I’m not sure how long his star will get to shine.
That was a typo, Dan, but it actually captured
the proper sentiment. This is the problem when
the right supports someone just because they are say anti Clinton, without regards to the record. But can one imagine addressing the party
and not referring to the most prominent candidate since George Marlin, maybe.
Dan,
Never posted here before and don’t come here too often (no offense just don’t have enough time in the day), but I have been interested in your recent posts on Ziegler. I am a fan of his and I thought his MM DVD was a great piece of work. But after reading your recent posts and listening to your interview with him I thought I would post a few comments here about the situation. Yes, Ziegler crossed the line a bit w/ Keene and maybe he wasn’t totally prepared for the interview. But Keene still seems like a good ol boy hack that is part of the establishment problem we have with the GOP and conservative organizations like CPAC.
On another note, this persona that people are trying to attach to him that he has some crush on Palin or that he’s out for self promotion is ridiculous IMO. He is one of the few on the right who is actually not afriad to take on the establishment and call out the left for the scumbags/hypocrites that they are head on. I was not totally aware of some of the stuff about him you pointed out in this post. However, I really didn’t think it was necessary to drudge all that up. Nobody is perfect and overall, I think John is doing a great job right now fighting for our side.
Gee Dan, At the end of John Ziegler’s tenure at KFI things got so absurd that they were absolutely comical? Is that the best you got?
Bring it, bro’. Bring it.
Gee Dan, [blockquote]“At the end of John Ziegler’s tenure at KFI things got so absurd that they were absolutely comical?”[/blockquote]
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Is that the best you got?
Bring it, bro’. Bring it.
Paul, nice try. Try and try, again.
Ziegler makes me laugh sometimes the way he says, “Really”. Your interview with Ziegler was fair and showed him how to question more methodically and fairly, in other words reporting. Hopefully, Ziegler will take a few lessons…maybe not after your latest post. Maybe you’ll dig into Keene’s record and report that story. It might help us all out to find some balance. If you do, I might hit the tip jar, even though you don’t need it…I think you have said something to that effect in the past. Smile.
lol The hell I don’t, chercast. I just feel awkward asking for it, so I rarely do. lol
As to Keene, I’m not sure what story you meant? Dig into what? Keene’s overall record? I doubt he has much of one. It sounds like to me his role is mostly ceremonial in nature. I doubt very much if he’s actually running it part-time. Probably the VP’s that do all the heavy lifting. That’s often the way with such efforts. He’s the guy who knows the guys who …
I went back and looked again at your previous piece, and you did investigate and report. I just had to read it twice. I must be an auditory learner, the audio of the interview worked for me. So I guess I owe you, already. Smile.
So my followup question would be, why is CPAC such a big draw that drives people that go to it crazy nowadays? Quick history…youtube audio preferred format….
lol Didn’t even hit the jar, yet – and making demands?? Must be a wimmens! Actually, I think what CPAC does is give one a sense of being with a large number that think very much as you do. Sort of the bond that comes from political campaigns, rallys of all sorts. A sense of community one doesn’t often feel, perhaps? Maybe that’s what gets people going.
I had a decent enough time one year I went. I’d go again. But I don’t know as I felt overly energized, or something. ROmney gave a good speech, some others was well. And walking around talking to con bloggers, or con groups was cool. Can’t complain, certainly.
Urban Dictionary: wimmens women (not ladies) of a particular type.
Better than being a min (men)
Urban Dictionary: min
a person who is a min is a hopeless case. min can be used in a similiar manner to the word ‘dud’.
Smile.