Conservative Blogging: It’s More Than That
h/t Instapundit on this post from Patrick Ruffini. Good discussion but it seems to me as a conservative blogger, no one is raising two key points.
How is it I am supposed to get all fired up about raising money for a GOP that hasn't really looked conservative and perhaps not even worth supporting for a number of years? People will blog AND raise money for things they believe in. Maybe if more Conservative and center-Right bloggers started to believe in the GOP, again – it wouldn't be such a difficult thing to do?
Besides that, the notion that the Left's Netroots grew up organically is a bit of a myth. As I pointed out as far back as July 2006, there was big money and political professionals behind getting that really going. So far, no comparable effort has been undertaken by the people who could do it for the Right.
Well, I've found that conservatives are willing to pony up the money, but it's extremely difficult to get people in the new media to ask their readers/listeners for money. Why that is, I don't know, but I find that as a general rule, if bloggers and talk radio hosts on the Right have a choice between seeing their favorite candidates lose and asking their readers to donate money, they'd rather see those candidates lose.
Conservatism is dead. It doesn’t work.
Most folks think women should be allowed to vote, are against slavery, are in favor of black people having the right to vote, black people and white people being allowed to marry, and against separate but equal education.
All thanks to liberals.
Quit whining and get over it. 30 years of failure is long enough.
And I’d like to add. You couldn’t even get a conservative nomination for President of the United States. You got the liberal John McCain. And how’s that Palin as VP going?
Why don’t you start a conservative party and have Governor Palin lead the way?
I might just become a Republican.
Talk Radio Host Michael Savage Endorses ‘Old War Horse’ McCain Over ‘Naked Marxist’ Obama
He called BO Pol Pot!
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=207473
Thank you Dwight D. Eisenhower for sending the National Guard to that high school in Little Rock.
“Talk Radio Host Michael Savage Endorses ‘Old War Horse’ McCain Over ‘Naked Marxist’ Obama
He called BO Pol Pot!
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=207473”
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Look no further than this sort of tripe for the reason why RW blogging has been as much of a failure as the rest of the GOP campaign in 2008, and will continue to be so in future if this persists.
Seemingly vast numbers of RW blogs exist. There are even the PUMA crossover blogs. But you can count on the fingers of one hand the number of RW blogs that engage with readers in a positive way that doesn’t involve extreme mud-slinging at opponents and promotes a positive and coherent set of goals and stategies and healthy, open debate. Far from it – many are hostile and cliquy places to visit, and the negativity is suffocating.
Beyond a few fervent hotheads who get carried away with their own self-importance, the stupid issues these other RW blogs raise and the outright lies they propagate carry little traction with the general public because they are hatched in a rarified atmosphere that doesn’t welcome searching questioning.
For that reason, once exposed to the light of day, each trumpeted “game-changing” revelation falls flat, and – here’s the rub – PEOPLE ARE STILL SCARED AND HURTING because of what the GOP has done in its time in office. And none of the mud slung gives anyone any sense that the GOP recognizes that and is truly willing to change to match the demographic and social changes that are occurring in the US.
1964 civil rights act
he Brown decision meant that white and African American children could not be forced to attend separate public schools.
The Supreme Court s landmark decision was one of the single most important features of the climate of opinion that began to encourage federal action to protect civil rights. Yet the Brown ruling did not settle the controversy surrounding the treatment of minorities in the United States. Although the Supreme Court made its commitment to equal rights unmistakably clear, the cause of civil rights still required affirmative action by Congress to become a reality for most African Americans.
The United States Congress began to take its first, tentative steps to enact major civil rights legislation soon after the Brown decision. Although Congress considered a civil rights bill each year from 1945 until 1957, every measure failed to pass into law. It was not until Congress turned its attention to voting rights in 1957 that the first civil rights act of the 20th century actually became law. Congress followed the 1957 Civil Rights Act with another in 1960. Together these measures made moderate gains for minorities. More importantly, they foreshadowed increasing support for more substantial civil rights guarantees in the 1960s and contributed to a climate of opinion favoring these guarantees.
House Debate and Passage
The House of Representatives debated the bill for nine days and rejected nearly one hundred amendments designed to weaken the bill before passing H.R .7152 on February 10, 1964. Of the 420 members who voted, 290 supported the civil rights bill and 130 opposed it. Republicans favored the bill 138 to 34; Democrats supported it 152-96. It is interesting to note that Democrats from northern states voted overwhelmingly for the bill, 141 to 4, while Democrats from southern states voted overwhelmingly against the bill, 92 to 11. A bipartisan coalition of Republicans and northern Democrats was the key to the bill’s success. This same arrangement would prove crucial later to the Senate’s approval of the bill.
Senator Richard Russell, Democrat from Georgia, led the so-called opposition forces. The group was also known as the “southern bloc.” It was composed of eighteen southern Democrats and one Republican, John Tower of Texas. Although a hopeless minority, the group exerted much influence because Senate rules virtually guaranteed unlimited debate unless it was ended by cloture. The “southern bloc” relied on the filibuster to postpone the legislation as long as possible, hoping that support for civil rights legislation throughout the country would falter. The Democratic leadership and Humphrey could not control the southern wing of the party.
The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes.
The Republican pro-civil rights forces were blessed with gifted leadership. Although Senate minority whip Thomas Kuchel initially managed the party’s forces, it increasingly became clear to Democrats, Republicans, the press, civil rights groups, and the White House that Everett McKinley Dirksen was the key man in the entire civil rights legislative
On June 10,1964, after an impassioned plea by Dirksen on behalf of the compromise bill, the Senate voted 71 to 29 to close off the civil rights filibuster. Every member of the Senate was present for the vote, including Senator Engle of California who had suffered a stroke and could not speak but pointed to his eye as a sign of his “aye” vote. The margin was four votes larger than the 67 required. It ended 57 days of debate, the longest debate since the cloture rule had been adopted in 1917. Forty four Democrats and 27 Republicans supported cloture; 23 Democrats and 6 Republicans opposed it.
Compromise Bill Accepted by House; Conference Committee Avoided
The chief stumbling block in the plan was the southern-dominated Rules Committee. A bipartisan coalition of committee members quickly surmounted this obstacle by seizing control from chairman Howard Smith and, on June 30, the House Rules Committee reported H. Res.789 providing for the acceptance of the Senate bill without change.
House leaders brought the resolution up for floor consideration on July 2 where members quickly approved the Senate-passed civil rights bill, 289 to 126. Only six representatives changed their votet from February when the House first sent H. R. 7152 to the Senate. Because there were no differences in the two bills, there was no need for a conference committee and the bill went immediately to the White House for President Johnson s signature.
Keep fighting! Start plastering your pro McCain/Palin statements in online newspapers in swing states especially. Go. Now. http://www.50states.com/news
Uncle barry is a caricature of the leader of some banana republic in Central America. He buys votes with tax credits (read: welfare) and makes promises he never intends to keep. He is not as smart as you think he is, though he is clever. He is not who he says he is, though he speaks well. He is not really about change, though you think he is.
Think Again.
“Keep fighting! Start plastering your pro McCain/Palin statements in online newspapers in swing states especially. Go. Now. http://www.50states.com/news”
Yeah, that’ll REALLY turn things around!
Robin, read this carefully – NO ONE PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO THAT CRAP. A very small proportion of the electorate reads those sorts of site, and they all have their own opinions anyway and are usually already busy pushing them.
Some whackjob posting something on a newspaper’s site – even in ALL CAPS – isn’t going to sway anyone one way or another. In fact, it smacks of sheer desperation and makes the campaign look amateurish and pathetic.
Lala,
A nice little history but I have to ask what your point is?
It was a liberal philosophy that led to the Civil Rights Act. Not a conservative one.
“Uncle barry is a caricature of the leader of some banana republic in Central America. He buys votes with tax credits (read: welfare) and makes promises he never intends to keep. He is not as smart as you think he is, though he is clever. He is not who he says he is, though he speaks well. He is not really about change, though you think he is.
Think Again.”
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Thanks for illustrating my point for me.
Tell me – seriously – WHO EXACTLY do you think is going to read a post like that and change their mind?
Are you preaching to the converted?
Are you seeking to sway others?
What has it achieved except to make yourself feel like you’re doing “something”?
It hasn’t worked. And keeping on keeping on will just keep on not working.
Today’s Conservatives are yesterday’s Classic Liberals
Today’s Liberals are not Classic Liberals
“Today’s Conservatives are yesterday’s Classic Liberals”
And that is why today’s conservatives embrace equal rights for all Americans?
Including gay American’s right to marry?
Go jump in the lake. Lala. You’re a phony.
–WHO EXACTLY do you think is going to read a post like that and change their mind?
Why…YOU, my dear jharp. I see by your anger that my post touched a nerve in YOU…jaaayhaarp…
jaaayhaarp….jaaayhaaaaarp….
bwooooheeeeehaaaaahahahahah!!!
vote for mccain…jaayhaarp…
“–WHO EXACTLY do you think is going to read a post like that and change their mind?
Why…YOU, my dear jharp. I see by your anger that my post touched a nerve in YOU…jaaayhaarp…”
OK, I get it. You can’t read too well. That comment you quoted wasn’t from jharp, it was from me.
And you’ve touched no nerve – caps for emphasis, not anger. What do I care if you don’t get it because you’re too hidebound to wake up?
You won’t get it. So you’ll just keep wasting time posting drivel. Meanwhile others will be canvassing and concentrating on getting out the vote.
Bye, loser. I’m done trying to help out here. Figure it out for yourself. You’ll have at least four years …
oops, sorry jenny. funny, your outrage is reminiscent of a certain harpo marxist. Are you his lesbian lover?
jenny-
two years control of congress…
The United States Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs has jurisdiction over matters related to: banks and banking, price controls, deposit insurance, export promotion and controls, federal monetary policy, financial aid to commerce and industry, issuance of redemption of notes, currency and coinage, public and private housing, urban development and mass transit, and government contracts.
Christopher Dodd, Chairman
The United States House Committee on Financial Services (or House Banking Committee) oversees the entire financial services industry, including the securities, insurance, banking, and housing industries. The Committee also oversees the work of the Federal Reserve, the United States Department of the Treasury, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and other financial services regulators.
It is chaired by Barney Frank (D-MA)
They took control of both committees of January 2007.
We find out after over a year and half ‘in control’, they had no idea what they were doing?
(have you seen all that was done for Dodd, by countrywide?)
republicans are horrible in general, but no more horrible than democrats.
It kinda sounds like jenny would be the pitcher, and harpo, the catcher.
I almost wish that obama would win…
dems have excelled, with a lot of help from the press, at playing political hot potato.
we haven’t even come close to how bad it will be. unemployment is going to hit 8.5% by spring/summer, gdp is going to be dead until fall at minimum. If barry proceeds with raising taxes in the heart of a recession, you’ll have little over 9 months to get unemployment back down before the fall elections hit.
here’s a news flash-if obama loses middle america, he won’t have enough time to get them back-looking to blame someone for economic hardtimes is going to be a tough job when you only have democrats to blame, but the only knee jerk rxn will be to bring back the gop.
and barry, having lost middle america and not getting them back?
gop regains control of it all in 4 years.
It kinda sounds like jenny would be the pitcher, and harpo, the catcher.
Posted by: mark l. | Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Mark l,
Just what in the heck are you talking about?
You have proved yourself to be a complete imbecile about polls and now you accuse me of being a lesbian?
Though I guess I do have lesbian tendencies. I’m a 48 year married for 20 years father of two. You jackass.
Any more wisdom on the polls you’d like to share. I heard Obama crushed McCain in a Daily Kos online poll about who would make a better President 92 % to 8%. What is your analysis of that?
“How is it I am supposed to get all fired up about raising money for a GOP that hasn’t really looked conservative”
well, under normal circumstances, one shouldn’t. however, this go around it looks like we have a real commie on our hands.
however, this go around it looks like we have a real commie on our hands.
Posted by: tally | Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 12:19 AM
And here I thought he was a secret Muslim. Or was it a terrorist?
You’re an idiot. And you know it.
PATRICK RUFFINI: What It Will Take to Build a Rightroots Movement.
UPDATE: Some thoughts from MarkTapscott. “The RightRoots must make a top priority of equiping vastly more of our sites with the reportorial and investigative skills required to dig up and present credible exposes, fact-based analyses and concrete news stories. In short, we’ve complained about liberal media bias for decades, but now that the mainstream media is steadily being displaced by online media, many of us need to become ….. journalists, or capable of doing the online analogy of traditional journalism, particularly in its investigative phase.”
posted at 09:13 PM by Glenn Reynolds Permalink
Pretty encouraging stuff I’m seeing from the surrender monkey right wingers. You’d almost think the election was over.
And on a serious note. Why in the fuck would the wingnuts not have been doing this all along? Sure seems to be an open admission that they have been publishing BS all of this time. I’m not a journalist but it appears the right has flunked journalism 101.
jaaayhaaaarp…..jaaaayhaaaarp!!!
you know you should vote for mccain…..
jaaaaayhaaarp….
Been reading around lately. Makes me really appreciate dan and this blog. I’ve been reading RWV for a very long time. Only started posting here recently.
Today I read this blog for the first time:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/
This is the first one since I started reading that I probably will read again. I’ve been clicking on other blogs that dan recommends and others but I’m happy with dan and his reporting. With time constraints I know I can come her quick and with a quick read not miss anything. That’s a good thing as martha would say.
Only scumbags would even go to the Daily Kos “Jharp”. You are a typical liberal idiot. I feel sorry for your kids. Who cares what that pice of garbage blog says.
Why are so many idiots in the tank with Osama Obama ? Because they are sheep.
They follow the money. All they care about is making money and if they say anything against that one then they do not get any of the pot.
That’s the way liberals are. They would steal the clothes off their own mother if it made them a buck. They could care less about this country. All they care about is the $$$$$$.
I am sure George Soras and people and groups like him has given a lot of money to all these scumbag blogs and MSM TV stations.
John McCain is a decent and moral man. He has more decency in his little finger than Osama Obama could ever dream of having.
John McCain can still win this election if people will go to the polls and vote on Nov.4th. Just do it people. I do not believe that all America has gone mad.
The polls are not right. Even the pollsters are in the tank for Osama Obama. They are hoping to keep Republicans home on election day. It is not going to work.
McCain/Palin
“John McCain is a decent and moral man.”
I’m voting family values this time.
And John McCain abandoned his children and divorced his first wife after she was disfigured in an auto accident for a younger, richer, and better looking drug addict. Not the values I share.
Barack Obama is a real family man.
jharp – bite me
Harpo says, “Barack Obama is a real family man.”
That took his kids to a racist church.
Bad enough that he chose to worship Wright for TWENTY YEARS but to expose his kids to such a sick racist
is borderline child abuse!
Had no problem leaving his kids under the care of a Jew hater,
“Obama gave Khalidi a glowing eulogy. He said that he and his wife Michelle had been frequent dinner guests of the Khalidis, and that the Khalidis had frequently babysat for the Obama children.
http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/5917 (Hey that thing to the left is called a link, try it sometime)
Who knows maybe someday we will get to see what really happened at the “screw the jews” sendoff party that had Ayers, Dorn and Xerxes hanging out yet again!
Just a coincidence that Ayers/Dorn are good friends with the same Khalidis that would watch Xerxes kids right?
That’s your god king Xerxes for you, leaves the Aunt and Half-brother to live like pigs but lets his kids hang out with America hating role models
Great father figure there! Can’t even hold a job!
Oh those Huffpost kids play rough. Guess Lesbian marriage is no sure cure for being a little crabby. 222 screwdriver wounds is rather a few too many. Via Drudge:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2008/10/29/1029bbdeaths.html
harpo, calling harpo. There is a message for you from the AP of all places (Now they get objective. A little late isn’t it?)
“WASHINGTON (AP) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama’s assertion that “I’ve offered spending cuts above and beyond” the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by “eliminating programs that don’t work” masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are—beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn’t tell them:
THE SPIN: “That’s why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year.”
THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it’s not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.”
” “I don’t see enough smiling. Doom and gloom totally,” said Anthony Sullivan, one of the biggest names in infomercial history.
“I feel depressed right now,” added Sullivan, an Englishman famous for his infomercials touting the Swivel Sweeper and Smart Chopper. The only thing saving Obama, Sullivan said, was when the candidate appeared live at the end speaking at a rally in Florida.
“I think it needed it. I was about to throw myself through a window because it was depressing,” Sullivan said. ”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10302008/news/politics/tvs_top_ad_stars_pan_bam_135962.htm
Well, I guess if you are going to critique an infomercial it does make sense to go ask the kings of infomercials.
God forgive me fred, the first thing I thought of when I read that horrible story was “OMG, what could she have done? Did she say she was voting republican?”
“— Who knows maybe someday we will get to see what really happened at the “screw the jews” sendoff party that had Ayers, Dorn and Xerxes hanging out yet again! —”
And if the rumours about Obama’s very low regard for Jews in general, and Israel in particular are true…
…and Obama causes America to turn its back on Israel, then it will certainly be game over for this nation.
Our support for Israel is one of the big reasons God has continued to bless America, or at the very least, refrain from severe judgment upon us, for our national sins.
If and when we reject Israel, and support her enemies in favour against her, God shall surely smite this nation with a vengeance.
seek, a lot of regular folk are discussing this very issue in connection with “hidden away Joe the Senator’s” remarks about “girding your loins”.
Have heard a lot of “What else could he be talking about that would piss Americans off big time?”
Personally, I read blogs like this and hot air (much funnier comments from keyboard warriors with names like ‘wolfdriver’ and ‘manlyrash’) for the same reason as I tune in to Fox to hear Dick Morris whine – ENTERTAINMENT.
Speaking of entertainment, crazyass lines like this one make me come back for more:
“Our support for Israel is one of the big reasons God has continued to bless America, or at the very least, refrain from severe judgment upon us, for our national sins.
If and when we reject Israel, and support her enemies in favour against her, God shall surely smite this nation with a vengeance.”
Hahahha!!!
jharp why all the name calling. are you so angry because someone has a different opinion than yours? ask yourself if this is america. is this a freedom [speech] that i enjoy without worry of repression? after you vote obama, remember, that this is how it used to be. all freedoms will erode because of your vote, and others like you. drink that koolaid and worship your false prophet. like lemmings off the cliff. have a nice 4 years of ? i know what to expect. do you? if you really cared about any thing you would at least question your candidates beliefs. are you even capable of rational thought? just saying