Why Is CREW Lying?

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October 6, 2006

Update: Just to be clear, that CREW would not reveal the source of the alleged emails is a total joke. One cannot walk into a court with a faxed copy of an email and seek a subpoena to start an investigation. The FBI would need access to some e-storage medium before the authenticity of the documents could be confirmed. CREW knows that. They are making fools of themselves.

They must be genuine moonbats at CREW to believe they are going to get into a he said, she said with the FBI and come away a winner. The FBI states that they now believe CREW may have had emails in question in the Foley case as far back as April and that CREW refused to provide clean copies, or tell them how they came into their possession.

Those requests are perfunctory if someone really wants an investigation to take place. Here they are below in the original pdf file CREW had on its site. Obviously they were redacted, precisely as the FBI claims.

Download 100206DOJIGpacket.pdf

Watchdog Group Disputes FBI’s Claims on E-Mails – washingtonpost.com.

Law enforcement officials said the allegations by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) are without merit, and they stood by allegations that the group had refused to provide some information to the FBI.

In subsequent days, unidentified Justice and FBI officials told reporters that the e-mails provided by CREW were heavily redacted and that the group refused to provide unedited versions to the FBI. One law enforcement official — speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation — also told The Washington Post the FBI believed that CREW may have received the e-mails as early as April and that the group refused to tell the FBI how they were obtained.

Look for Friday updates via Hot Air.

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Comments:
  1. splashtc says:

    -then crew must be prosecuted.

  2. Catch22 says:

    Do you really find it beyond the realm of possibility that the anonymous unidentified FBI sources talking to press might actually be mistaken and that CREW might be telling the truth?

  3. CREW and the FBI

    Law enforcement officials said the allegations by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) are without merit, and they stood by allegations that the group had refused to provide some information to the FBI.

  4. madmatt says:

    I wouldn’t trust the FBI, lets hire a democratic independent investigator in the vein of ken starr and give him $100 million dollars to persecute everybody tangentially related to the case! Justlike we had for whitewater.

  5. old trooper says:

    Doesn`t the issue of the timing of the release of this ‘information’ speak volumes on the credibility of the sources? Was there a purpose or agenda afoot?

  6. Tom Williams says:

    Reality Check: Foley admits the emails and IMs are his. Majority Leader John Boehner of Ohio, Tom Reynolds of New York and the National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman, and Representatives Rodney Alexander of Louisiana and John Shimkus of Illinois, as well as a senior aide to Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois and former Clerk of the House Jeff Trandahl all admit they brought Foley’s flirting to the attention of Hastert much earlier. House pages were warned about Foley in 1995. Palm Beach locals knew about Foley’s personal life long ago. Shooting the messengers (CREW, Boehner, Reynolds, Alexander, AOL, etc.) does not absolve Foley’s criminal acts or Hastert’s coverup.

  7. MattM says:

    And now back to the real story…Foley’s a pedophille and Hasert did nothing about it.
    Spin, blame others, lie, offer disinformation, cry, whine, accuse the Democrats, frankly go do whatever you want. It won’t matter. The American majority is fed up with Bush and the Republicans. Enjoy your last month in office, boys!

  8. Will Hough says:

    Its a conspiracy! And those liberals killed Vince Foster too! What a bunch of delusional nitwits!

  9. Mimi says:

    Why do any of you believe anyone involved??? They can’t even keep their lies – ooops! I mean, stories – straight. Democrats…Republicans…they’re all scum, and they don’t give a rat’s a** about you, me, or the pages. It’s all about their own self interests. So take sides if you will, but either way, you’re jumping on a sinking ship. They’re all going down. Huzzah!

  10. iaintbacchus says:

    Crew could settle this really fast by just publishing the E-Mails in their possession in their complete form. Is there som legal reason why they can’t? The only one I can think of is if the victim were still a minor.

  11. Dom says:

    I personaly saw with my own two eyes, the president of CREW showing the e-mail she forwarded to the FBI, with all the pertanent informatin including names and e-mails not blocked, covered, or censored in any way.
    Including the name and e-mail of the page that forwarded the e-mail.
    So to you I say, PooPoo.
    You thinnk that the FBI won’t lie to cover their ass, please this administration is setting the standard for BULLSHIT.
    You dumbass GOP mouth piece.

  12. Dom says:

    Ohhh and by the way, when they showed the e-mail to numerous other law enforcement agencies specializing in web child predators (NYPD), they said it would have raised RED flags and started an imediate investigation including sting operations to trap the predator(senator, republican, pedophile, whatever his title is).
    And Im only talking about the overfriendly one that Hastert dismissed as just naughty, NOT the downright pornographic ones.
    But its all the Democrats doing, you Dumbass.

  13. shingles says:

    Its not quite “PooPoo to you”, but using that PDF document to prove that they were redacted way back in July doesn’t really work.
    The main reason being that the email address of whoever received the documents from the FBI is also blacked out. Clearly, these were redacted more recently when CREW went public.

  14. Foley admits the emails and IMs are his.
    Where can I find this quote?

  15. Fancypants Turkeyboy says:

    HI, Right wingers!
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE *PLEEEEEEASE* keep working this VAST LEFT WING conspiracy theory for as long as humanely possible. It’s really working with the american public!

  16. ChrisO says:

    So if the FBI is above reproach in a matter like this, I presume you will also agree that the CIA would never actively try to undermine the President?

  17. jerry says:

    Do I understand you right? Your proof is that a pdf on CREW’s site is itself redacted and therefore what they showed the FBI must’ve been redacted too?
    Wow!

  18. qwfwq says:

    CREW is funded by Soros, right? That says it all. God, Dan, you’ve got some real dipshit trolls here.

  19. Devil's Advocate says:

    Face it. This is a Republican scandal about a Republican cover-up of a Republican sex predator. Yet another example of the degeneration, depravity, and moral bankruptcy of the GOP.
    You own this scandal. It is all yours. You can lie, distort, and blame others, it is not working. The American public is disgusted.

  20. kate says:

    “God, Dan, you’ve got some real dipshit trolls here.”
    lol, any use of the word intelligence would be a misnomer.

  21. nitpicker says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAaaaaaa…
    “Earlier today, the Department of Justice Inspector General (IG) released its report regarding the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) response to former Rep. Mark Foley’s (R-FL) emails to a former House page.
    “In July 2006, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) sent the emails to the FBI for investigation. In October, after the FBI revealed that it had not conducted any investigation into the emails, CREW requested an IG inquiry into the FBI’s inaction. Days later, CREW sent a second letter to the IG asking for a review of FBI misstatements regarding CREW’s conduct in the matter.
    “In its report, the IG concludes that the FBI should have taken some action when CREW sent the Foley emails to the Bureau in July and it should have “notified CREW, the complainant in this case, that the FBI declined to open an investigation.” The IG based this assessment, in part, on the fact that the language in Rep. Foley’s emails “fell within the type of behavior that the FBI warns against in its Parent’s Guide to Internet Safety.”
    “Regarding the misstatements to the media regarding the information CREW provided to the FBI, the IG found that “statements attributed to the FBI and the Department about CREW and the Foley e-mails were not accurate.” First, the IG found that contrary to the FBI’s claims, the emails CREW forwarded were not redacted by CREW and that the “emails still contained the full names of the pages and the House employee to whom the emails were sent.” Further, the IG found that despite statements to the contrary, the FBI “did not seek additional information from CREW,” other than one follow-up phone call. Finally, the IG found that the emails were provided to CREW in July 2006, not April as an unnamed FBI source had claimed.” Earlier today, the Department of Justice Inspector General (IG) released its report regarding the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) response to former Rep. Mark Foley’s (R-FL) emails to a former House page.
    http://www.citizensforethics.org/press/newsrelease.php?view=196
    Are you ever, ever right?

  22. Dan says:

    Dude, he doesn’t have to be right. He just has to feel it in his gut. It’s all about the truthiness.
    Besides, who would ever believe that the FBI would be involved in lies to cover their own butts?

  23. Sandia Cortaz says:

    HAHA! http://www.riehlworldview.com you were WRONG. CREW was RIGHT.

  24. Chook says:

    LMFAO@right wing retards!
    You guys are a never ending source of amusement with your basic inability to differentiate between your reality and actual reality. I swear the more I see and read you righties the more de-evolution I see.

  25. MarkO says:

    Seems this whole thing was a fabrication on Riehl’s part.
    Suprise, suprise.
    Today: Jan 22, 2007
    Earlier today, the Department of Justice Inspector General (IG) released its report regarding the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) response to former Rep. Mark Foley’s (R-FL) emails to a former House page.
    In July 2006, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) sent the emails to the FBI for investigation. In October, after the FBI revealed that it had not conducted any investigation into the emails, CREW requested an IG inquiry into the FBI’s inaction. Days later, CREW sent a second letter to the IG asking for a review of FBI misstatements regarding CREW’s conduct in the matter.
    In its report, the IG concludes that the FBI should have taken some action when CREW sent the Foley emails to the Bureau in July and it should have “notified CREW, the complainant in this case, that the FBI declined to open an investigation.” The IG based this assessment, in part, on the fact that the language in Rep. Foley’s emails “fell within the type of behavior that the FBI warns against in its Parent’s Guide to Internet Safety.”
    Regarding the misstatements to the media regarding the information CREW provided to the FBI, the IG found that “statements attributed to the FBI and the Department about CREW and the Foley e-mails were not accurate.” First, the IG found that contrary to the FBI’s claims, the emails CREW forwarded were not redacted by CREW and that the “emails still contained the full names of the pages and the House employee to whom the emails were sent.” Further, the IG found that despite statements to the contrary, the FBI “did not seek additional information from CREW,” other than one follow-up phone call. Finally, the IG found that the emails were provided to CREW in July 2006, not April as an unnamed FBI source had claimed.

  26. MarkO says:

    Now who’s big enough to apologize?
    Right… NOBODY AROUND HERE!

  27. Wanderer says:

    So in the bizzaro world of the right wing nutcases where the defintion of Truth are a drug addicted obese draft dodger and a Korean who claims to be the Messiah we now read that
    One cannot walk into a court with a faxed copy of an email and seek a subpoena to start an investigation
    Actually, under the administration of the serial draft dodger, we don’t even need to go into a court to get a warrant to tap the phone of any US citizen.
    Regardless, the FBI and IRS routinely start investigations based on far less evidence than a faxed a copy of an email. Just ask any poor sap whose gotten bogged down in some criminal investigation because a disgruntled employee turned over a faxed copy of an some email.
    Of course, these poor saps are most likely hetrosexual Democrats running a legitimate business and not some gay Republican trying to pushing forth the agenda of the Korean Messiah.
    In Moon We Trust.